Subject: Lyr Add: THE HAUGHS OF CROMDALE From: Bo Date: 07 Apr 98 - 02:07 PM Here is Haugh's of Cromdale from Ewan MacColl's Folk Songs and Ballads of Scotland -- a GREAT book. Please support book publishers and the writers\collectors of great material by buying books. Oak Publications OK61341 ISBN 0.8256.0057.X --not a slam just a reminder--
The Haughs of Cromdale Poetic licence has been strained to breaking point in this vigorous song. the battle fought upon the plains of Cromdale in Strathspey did, in fact, result in the army of 1,500 highlanders being defeated by Sir Thomas Livingston’s Hanoverians. Montrose, the hero of this song was not present at the event. Some forty-five years before, however, he won a victory at the battle of Auldearn against the Whig forces and it is probable that the two events have been dovetailed to provide us with a fine, optimistic, if somewhat chronologically inaccurate, song. McColl p40
“We were in bed, sir, every man,
“But alas! We could no longer stay,
“Alas, my lord, you’re not so strong,
They were at dinner, every man,
The M’Donalds they returned again,
M’Leans, M’Dougals, and M’Neils,
The loyal Stewarts, with Montrose, |
Subject: RE: Montrose Lyrics From: Bruce O. Date: 07 Apr 98 - 01:51 PM The song I noted above isn't really about Montrose. "Montrose Lyns", the song, is in Watson's 'Choice Collection', III, 1711, and the tune of that title, from the Blaikie MS of c 1692, is given in John Glen's 'Early Scottish Melodies'. If I remember correctly, Montrose died in 1643. There aren't many Scots songs of that date around, but I've seen a few scraps related to the Scots and their support of Charles I, of slightly later date. "Lesly's March" is probably the best known. |
Subject: RE: Montrose Lyrics From: Bruce O. Date: 07 Apr 98 - 01:30 PM I don't know precisely what song you're taking about. There's a song presumeable by Montrose that's an immitation of "My dear and only love take heed" in a number of Scottish works. The English tune of this title was called "Montrose Lynes" and "Chevy Chase" in Scotland" I can't remember what I included, if anything, in my writeup on Montrose's song in the 'Scarce Songs' file on my website. Tune is there in BBBM tunes, and probably in S1.ABC. www.erols.com/olsonw |
Subject: RE: Montrose Lyrics From: Jon W. Date: 07 Apr 98 - 11:33 AM Montrose is mentioned in the song "The Haughs of Cromdale" as sung by Ewan MacColl on his album of Jacobite songs. However the song contains many historical discrepancies and is thought to be mostly fictional. |
Subject: RE: Montrose Lyrics From: Alan of Australia Date: 07 Apr 98 - 10:57 AM G'day, (a) I believe this was mostly rewritten by Steeleye Span. (b) Probably based on a much shorter song or fragment. (c) I would also like to know the lyrics - can't make out a lot of it. (d) Interesting question - someone with more resources than I have may know. I spent some time looking when the album was first released. Cheers, |
Subject: Montrose Lyrics From: jday@umd5.umd.edu Date: 07 Apr 98 - 10:32 AM On it's live album (recently reissued on CD) Steeleye Span did a long and complicated song about the Scottish hero Montrose. Several questions: (a) is this really a "traditional" song? (b) are there other versions? (c) what are the lyrics? (d) are there other songs about Montrose? I'd appreciate any help. If you can write directly to me as well as post your message here it would be greatly appreciated. John Day Silver Spring, Maryland, USA |
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