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Lyr Req: Whisky in Jar, Jug of Punch

DigiTrad:
GILGARRY MOUNTAIN (There's whiskey in the jar)
WHISKEY, YOU'RE THE DIVIL


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Socorro 13 Apr 02 - 12:34 AM
The Pooka 13 Apr 02 - 02:15 AM
C-flat 13 Apr 02 - 03:57 AM
masato sakurai 13 Apr 02 - 10:57 AM
The Pooka 13 Apr 02 - 12:31 PM
GUEST 13 Apr 02 - 11:27 PM
Nigel Parsons 14 Apr 02 - 08:22 AM
Socorro 14 Apr 02 - 10:20 PM
The Pooka 15 Apr 02 - 12:45 AM
Nigel Parsons 15 Apr 02 - 05:02 AM
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IanC 15 Apr 02 - 09:32 AM
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The Pooka 15 Apr 02 - 01:34 PM
Nigel Parsons 19 Apr 02 - 07:40 AM
Bud Savoie 19 Apr 02 - 08:12 AM
The Pooka 19 Apr 02 - 08:52 AM
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George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca 23 Sep 03 - 03:08 PM
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Subject: Whisky in jar & beautiful day today
From: Socorro
Date: 13 Apr 02 - 12:34 AM

I'm looking for the lyrics to It's a Beautiful Day Today, done by Moby Grape ~1968 [(click for "Beautiful Day Today)], and Whiskey in the Jar by a British group, ~1971/72. If anyone can help me, I'd appreciate it. I'm new here and am still a bit slow. Thanks.


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Subject: RE: Whisky in jar & beautiful day today
From: The Pooka
Date: 13 Apr 02 - 02:15 AM

Socorro, I've serious doubts whether either of these are the "Whiskey in the Jar" to which you refer---they probably aren't best known for being done "by a British group"---but just in case, here they are, in the Digitrad, each *sometimes* known by the title you cite:

Click here

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Subject: RE: Whisky in jar & beautiful day today
From: C-flat
Date: 13 Apr 02 - 03:57 AM

The 2nd option given by The Pooka is the song recorded by Thin Lizzy (British group) and was a big hit for them. I would think that's the version you're looking for.


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Subject: RE: Whisky in jar & beautiful day today
From: masato sakurai
Date: 13 Apr 02 - 10:57 AM

The Fiddler's Companion tune search:

THERE'S WHISKEY IN THE JAR [1]. Irish, Reel. G Major. Standard. AB. Hardings All-Round Collection, 1905; No. 112, pg. 36.

THERE'S WHISKEY IN THE JAR [2]. Irish, Air (4/4 time, "with spirit"). E Minor. Standard. AB. "From a private in the 41st Regiment, Ballinamore, Co. Leitrim" (Joyce). Joyce (Old Irish Folk Music and Song), 1909; No. 686, pg. 345.

WHISKEY IN THE JAR [1]. AKA and see "Off/Going to California," "Fireman's Reel," "Gypsy Hornpipe," "Whiskey You're the Devil," "Possum Up a Gum Stump," "Lexington," "Old Towser," "Buttermild and Cider." Irish, Hornpipe. A Major. Standard. AABB. Roche Collection, 1982, Vol. 2; No. 217, pg. 12.

WHISKEY IN THE JAR/JUG. AKA and see "An Cailín Fionn," "The Milestone," "The Millstone," "The Old Locks and Quays of Galway," "The Connacht Reel," "The New Domain/Demense," "The College Grove," "The Green Jacket."

~Masato


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Subject: RE: Whisky in jar & beautiful day today
From: The Pooka
Date: 13 Apr 02 - 12:31 PM

Masato - you're a Wonder & a Scholar, as always. Lord Lord, so many Whiskey Jars, so little time.... :)

C-Flat, ah HA! Thin Lizzy! I stand, or stagger, corrected. Bet that's the One all right. I am abashed to admit that I first learned "Gilgarra Mountain" (aka WITJ) from Peter Paul & Mary! Oh dear. But I think I have it by either the Irish Rovers or the Dubliners, somewhere around the rubble here. / "Whiskey You're the Divil" (aka WITJ) I have by The Clancy Brothers & Tommy Makem of course. A British group from the County Tipperary. :) Well, except for Makem: a dour Orangeman from the Republic of South Armagh. :)

But now, wot about Socorro's "It's A Beautiful Day" by Moby Grape? Hmmm....


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Subject: RE: Whisky in jar & beautiful day today
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Apr 02 - 11:27 PM

The original version of "Whiskey in the Jar" is "Patrick Flemming" in Scarce Songs 2 at www.erols.com/olsonw. Flemming was executed in Dublin on Apr. 24, 1650.


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Subject: RE: Whisky in jar & beautiful day today
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 14 Apr 02 - 08:22 AM

Nice thread title.
As long as there's whisky in the jar, it must be a beautiful day!


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Subject: RE: Whisky in jar & beautiful day today
From: Socorro
Date: 14 Apr 02 - 10:20 PM

Thank you all for the help - I very much appreciate it.


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Subject: RE: Whisky in jar & beautiful day today
From: The Pooka
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 12:45 AM

Socorro, yer most welcome; see, that's what Mudcatters do. Well, among other things. :)

Nigel Parsons, threadtitle, yes indeed, It's beautiful day in the neighborhood. (Whiskey on a Sunday...)

What more diversion can a man desire
Than to sit him down by an alehouse fire
Upon his knee, a pretty wench
Aye and on the table, a jug of punch.

--"Jug of Punch"; one of the signature songs of the late great Paddy Clancy, RIP.


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Subject: Lyr Add: JUG OF PUNCH
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 05:02 AM

Jug of punch, with noticeable differences to both those in the DT. Nicked from the song book of the Bangor Scout and Guide Club (Bangor N.Wales). quoted there as by permission of Essex Music Group. (so I don't know who performed this version.) FWIW

JUG OF PUNCH

As I was sittin' with a jug and spoon,
One fine morn in the month of June,
A birdie sang on an ivy bunch,
And the song he sang was a jug of punch.

Tu-ra-lu-ralu, (3 times)
(repeat last two lines of verse)

What more diversion can a man require,
Than to court his girl by an open fire,
A cherry pippin to crack and crunch,
Aye and on the table a jug of punch.


Even the doctors with all their art
Cannot cure depression of the heart,
Even the cripple forgets his hunch,
When he's safe outside of a jug of punch.


The immortal Gods drink their nectar fine,
And the quality folk drink their claret wine,
I'd give them every grape in the bunch,
Just for a sip from a jug of punch.


And when I'm dead and in my grave,
No costly tombstone shall I crave,
Just lay me down in my native peat,
With a jug of punch at my head and feet.


Notes: source "Bangor Scout and Guide Club, University College of North Wales"
quoted as "By permission of Essex Music Group"

NP


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Subject: RE: Whisky in jar & beautiful day today
From: masato sakurai
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 05:18 AM

There're several songs titled "Whiskey in the Jar" (including songs to the tune of it) in the Bodleian Library. One of them, Harding B 15(372a) [Whiskey in the jar ("I am a young fellow that never yet was daunted ...")], was published between 1846 and 1854.

~Masato


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Subject: RE: Whisky in jar & beautiful day today
From: Snuffy
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 09:09 AM

Nigel, I've always heard it as a Kerry pippin, not a cherry pippin, but I don't know if either of them really exist.

WassaiL! V


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Subject: RE: Whisky in jar & beautiful day today
From: IanC
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 09:32 AM

Kerry Pippin is an apple variety. Widely grown in Britain (as well as Ireland, I assume) during the 19th Century.

Cheers!
Ian


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Subject: RE: Whisky in jar & beautiful day today
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 10:04 AM

The set of Jug of Punch Nigel quoted was probably from the McPeakes of Belfast, who used that opening line.


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Subject: RE: Whisky in jar & beautiful day today
From: The Pooka
Date: 15 Apr 02 - 01:34 PM

Remarkable! Just when a Mudcat LYR REQ thread seems ended, that's when starts getting even better!

O so it's a Kerry Pippin, is it? I'd heard of *Merry* & Pippin (New Zealanders, I think they were :) but now I've learned something. Thanks.

- Legolas


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Subject: RE: Whisky in jar & beautiful day today
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 19 Apr 02 - 07:40 AM

The Pooka: Are you sure you are Legolas ?
I was almost Legolas last night, but I blame the beer!


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Subject: RE: Whisky in jar
From: Bud Savoie
Date: 19 Apr 02 - 08:12 AM

A group called "The Irish Ramblers" in the 60s did a different version of "Whisky [sic] in the Jar." The first verse and chorus went:

As I was a-goin' o'er the Cork and Kerry Mountain
I met with Captain Farrel and his money he was countin'
First I drew my pistol then I rattled forth my rapier
Sayin' "Stand and deliver, for I am your bold deceiver."

CHORUS:
Oh, whack fol de diddle-o, whack fol de diddle-o
There's whisky in the jar [twice, biting down hard on the "r"]


The Ramblers were three brothers from Ireland named Clancy, but they were too late to call themselves the Clancy Brothers or even the Irish Rovers.

Anyone remember them?


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Subject: RE: Whisky in jar & beautiful day today
From: The Pooka
Date: 19 Apr 02 - 08:52 AM

M. Savoie, yeah that's approximately the version that I first heard. Three other Clancys?? Jaysus. / Should have named themselves "Beyond the Pale". But I think somebody did take that, later on...

Nigel, shpeakin' o' beyond the pail, yes I'm sure it was only the Beer. Stiff upper lip old chap. Stand and deliver. (Bold deceiver, to be sure.)No, I'm not really Legolas, I admit. Sometimes I'm almost Galadriel. But I blame the stout.

-- Gimli


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Subject: RE: Whisky in jar & beautiful day today
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 19 Apr 02 - 09:03 AM

Pooka: Gimli more lines like that! After all, Tolkien is Hobbit forming!
Is this a No Smauging bar ?
Can I Boromi'r fiver for the next round of drinks?


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Subject: Lyr Add: Whisky in the jar
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 23 Sep 03 - 03:08 PM

The link that Masato gives above had a GIF file. I'm trying to work through it. This is what I got from that picture. Whiskey In the Jar

I am a young fellow that never yet was daunted And oftentimes had money, but seldom it was wanted. For robbing for gold, it was my own folly, Paying for good liquor to treat deceitful Molly

Chorus Musha ring a ding a____

As I was going over Calvert mountains I met with Captain Rveret, his money he was counting When I drew my pistols, and then I drew my rapier Stand and deliver, for I am your bold deceiver


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Subject: RE: Whisky in jar & beautiful day today
From: GUEST,MMario
Date: 23 Sep 03 - 03:26 PM

George - this is what I make out...it looks more like Captain "Brevet" to me - though it could be "Everet"




Oh! when I got his money, it was a pretty penny,
I put it in my pocket and took it home to Molly,
When she swore by what was good, that she never would deceive me,
but the divil take the women, for they never can by easy.

Being both wet and weary, I went to Molly's chamber,
I went to Molly's chamber for to have a slumber,
When she flew unto my pistols and she loaded them with water,
I was dragged ou of my bed just like a lamb to slaughter

I was early next morning, between six and seven,
surrounde by policemen, and likewise Captain Brevet
I fired off my pistols and powder, but was mistaken
I fired of the water and a prisoner I was taken

There's some take delight in fishing and fowling,
whilst others take delight in hearing cannons roaring,
but I take delight in being brisk and jolly
and in paying for good liqour to treat deceitful Molly.

Oh! I have got two brothers, and they are in the army,
One is in Cork, and the other in Killarney,
If I had them here to night, oh, would'nt I make them jolly;
I would rather have them her then you deceitful Molly.

It was early net morning, between six and seven,
It was up against my cell dor the turnkey he was bawling
When I out with my shackles and knocked the turnkey over
And I made my escape out of Fair Philip's Town


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Subject: RE: Whisky in jar & beautiful day today
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 23 Sep 03 - 03:31 PM

I found this page. According to it, It's Everet.


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Subject: Lyr Add: WHISKEY IN THE JAR
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 23 Sep 03 - 03:41 PM

Thanks MMario. From what you had, and what I got off that other page, this is what I have now.

Whiskey In the Jar

I am a young fellow that never yet was daunted
And oftentimes had money, but seldom it was wanted.
For robbing for gold, it was my own folly,
Paying for good liquor to treat deceitful Molly
 
Chorus
Musha ring a ding aha
 
As I was going over Calvert mountains
I met with Captain Everet, his money he was counting
When I drew my pistols, and then I drew my rapier
Stand and deliver, for I am your bold deceiver
 
Oh when I got his money, it was a pretty penny
I put it in my pocket and took it home to Molly,
When she swore by what was good, that she never would deceive me.
But the devil take the women, for they never can be easy.
 
Being both wet and weary, I went to Molly's chamber,
I went to Molly's chamber for to have a slumber,
When she flew unto my pistols, and she loaded them with -- water,
I was dragged out of my bed just like a lamb to the slaughter.
 
It was early next morning, between six and seven,
Surrounded by policemen, and likewise Captain Everet
I fired off my pistols and powder but was mistaken,
I fired off the water and a prisoner I was taken.
 
There's some take delight in fishing and fowling,
Whilst others take delight in hearing cannons roaring,
But I take delight in being brisk and jolly
And in paying for good liquor to treat deceitful Molly
 
Oh! I have got two brothers, and they are in the army,
One is in Cork, and the other in Killarney,
If I had them here tonight, oh, wouldn't I make them jolly,
I would rather have them here than you, deceitful Molly.
 
It was early next morning, between six and seven,
It was up against my cell door the turnkey he was bawling
When I out with my shackles and knocked the turnkey down,
And I made my escape out of fair Philip's Town.


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