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Crank my fad?

AllisonA(Animaterra) 19 Apr 02 - 01:43 PM
MMario 19 Apr 02 - 01:53 PM
Amos 19 Apr 02 - 02:36 PM
AllisonA(Animaterra) 19 Apr 02 - 02:58 PM
MMario 19 Apr 02 - 03:05 PM
sophocleese 19 Apr 02 - 03:06 PM
Amos 19 Apr 02 - 03:18 PM
catspaw49 19 Apr 02 - 04:24 PM
Sorcha 19 Apr 02 - 04:26 PM
GUEST,maniac 19 Apr 02 - 04:34 PM
Amos 19 Apr 02 - 04:37 PM
Jim Dixon 19 Apr 02 - 08:38 PM
Celtic Soul 19 Apr 02 - 08:40 PM
Jim Dixon 19 Apr 02 - 09:01 PM
AllisonA(Animaterra) 20 Mar 06 - 10:21 AM
GUEST,ClaireBear 20 Mar 06 - 11:09 AM
SINSULL 20 Mar 06 - 01:25 PM
SINSULL 20 Mar 06 - 01:26 PM
Kaleea 20 Mar 06 - 02:39 PM
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AllisonA(Animaterra) 21 Mar 06 - 12:22 PM
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Subject: Crank my fad?
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 19 Apr 02 - 01:43 PM

In a song obviously meant for dancing, "Chicken in the Fence Post" there are the words:

Crank my fad while I dance, Josie

Any idea what it means?
(Keep it clean, please, I'm doing this at school!)


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Subject: RE: Crank my fad?
From: MMario
Date: 19 Apr 02 - 01:53 PM

the only definitions of "fad" I can find are "craze" and as and acronym for some sort of enzyme (I don't think it is the second one)

So it could mean "encourage my dancing"


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Subject: RE: Crank my fad?
From: Amos
Date: 19 Apr 02 - 02:36 PM

I have to think you may have somehow misheard the words, Anima. Crank my fan? Fan my crank? It sure don't make much sense, do it???

A


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Subject: RE: Crank my fad?
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 19 Apr 02 - 02:58 PM

It's written in the little Kodaly book, Song Garden, now out of print. Lots of other typos, I wouldn't be surprised if this was one, too!


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Subject: RE: Crank my fad?
From: MMario
Date: 19 Apr 02 - 03:05 PM

That's the way I found the lyrics on the web too - do a google search for "Crank my fad" and you'll see!


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Subject: RE: Crank my fad?
From: sophocleese
Date: 19 Apr 02 - 03:06 PM

Sure it wasn't a song about a two timer called Frank my cad?


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Subject: RE: Crank my fad?
From: Amos
Date: 19 Apr 02 - 03:18 PM

Very strange -- the verses call out a series of silly tasks Josie should do for the singer while he dances, such as "chew my gum", "hold my mule", and then "crank my fad". The only cranking I can think of for a young man in a rural setting might be cranking a butter churn or an ice-cream freezer, which doesn't seem to fit, and what the hell is a "fad"? Some Pennsylvania Dutch word not related to fad (craze)??

Anyone got a really old OED out there?

A


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Subject: RE: Crank my fad?
From: catspaw49
Date: 19 Apr 02 - 04:24 PM

Fad? Hey Honey...I gotcher fad right here! Crank on Baby!!!!!

Well okay Al, I'm sorry, but like, uh......It had to be said.............

(although I still liked Amos' "fan my crank" a lot!!!)

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Crank my fad?
From: Sorcha
Date: 19 Apr 02 - 04:26 PM

I strongly suspect that like most blues lyrics it is scatalogical......of course, Spaw got it in one!


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Subject: RE: Crank my fad?
From: GUEST,maniac
Date: 19 Apr 02 - 04:34 PM

...crank my ford?


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Subject: RE: Crank my fad?
From: Amos
Date: 19 Apr 02 - 04:37 PM

Spaw,

Don't go saying you're sorry if you ain't!! Just makes matters worse!! LOL!!

A


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Subject: RE: Crank my fad?
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 19 Apr 02 - 08:38 PM

Well, crank my fad ef that ain't the silliest thing I ever heerd of!


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Subject: RE: Crank my fad?
From: Celtic Soul
Date: 19 Apr 02 - 08:40 PM

:::LOL!!!:::

I am partial to the Frank my cad version, m'self! :D


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Subject: RE: Crank my fad?
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 19 Apr 02 - 09:01 PM

Not an answer, but interesting nonetheless...
Found at http://libweb.uoregon.edu/music/spirituals.html (boldface added)

    Hairston, Jester, 1901-

    "The Jester Hairston collection" . Light Records, c1984. NOTES: Spirituals. All songs written or arranged by Jester Hairston. For solo voices (AT), chorus (SATB, divisi) unaccompanied. CONTENTS: Oh, rocka my soul -- Live a-humble -- Hold on! -- Go down in de lonesome valley -- You better mind -- Elijah rock -- Don't be weary, traveler -- Mary's little boy chile -- Hold my mule while I dance Josey -- Amen. DOUGLASS PHONODISC DMds 5879

And here's an obituary of Jester Hairston. And there's another article here. There are LOTS of references to him on the Web. He wrote the song, "Amen" for the film, "Lilies Of The Field"!!

Geez, only a couple of years ago, we could have asked him what it meant.


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Subject: RE: Crank my fad?
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 20 Mar 06 - 10:21 AM

refresh- I'm teaching the song again and I STILL don't know what it means!


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Subject: RE: Crank my fad?
From: GUEST,ClaireBear
Date: 20 Mar 06 - 11:09 AM

Maybe "Crank my Victrola" -- which was sureely a fad when it was intyroduced -- so there would be music to dance to?

Another early 20th century "fad" that needed to be cranked was an automobile...so maybe that?

When I met him (which was admittedly when he was quite elderly), Jester Hairston did not seem like someone who would insert suggestive OR scatological lyrics into the middle of what otherwise looks like a children's song.

Claire


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Subject: RE: Crank my fad?
From: SINSULL
Date: 20 Mar 06 - 01:25 PM

More information here:


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Subject: RE: Crank my fad?
From: SINSULL
Date: 20 Mar 06 - 01:26 PM

I mean here:
http://www.cocojams.com/secular_slave_songs.htm

Isn't this Azizi's site?


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Subject: RE: Crank my fad?
From: Kaleea
Date: 20 Mar 06 - 02:39 PM

I am aware of this line in the Kodaly version too, Animaterra.
I looked around & found out that Fad could be derived from "fidfad" & asked an elderly friend if she knew what that meant. She laughed & said it's when somebody or somethin' gets all riled up," or when someone is "rather particular." This goes along with some of the info in the various dictionaries.
Then, I was just talking to my Turkish nephew who asked me what I was doing. Soooo--he says that he is aware of a term from his part of the world with the root sounding like "fad" which refers to something which sort of pops up or jumps up, & he told me it's sometimes used in an "impolite manner." He was just a bit embarrassed to tell me this! He did a search on the word, "fad" & came up with the term he was referring to as a possible origin for "fad."
I could be wrong, but--having seen many commonly sung oldtime lyrics & knowing that they were rather naughty, I'm betting that this naughty may be it & get some folks "riled up."


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Subject: RE: Crank my fad?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 20 Mar 06 - 02:44 PM

Were Kodaly materials originally in English?

~S~


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Subject: RE: Crank my fad?
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 21 Mar 06 - 12:22 PM

The Kodaly approach uses traditional music of the country you're teaching in- so Zoltan Kodaly taught Hungarian children Hungarian music, and American teachers who teach the Kodaly music use American traditional music as the foundation of their curriculum. I am not a "Kodaly teacher" but I borrow from the books a lot, as they are excellent resources!

"Crank my fad" = "all riled up"- it works for me! Thanks!


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Subject: RE: Crank my fad?
From: GUEST,musicgal64
Date: 23 Aug 10 - 08:18 PM

I assigned this research to my 5th grade students. One little girl said she found fad defined on wikipedia 2 ways: 1- popular fashion & 2 - fishpole. I'm still trying to confirm her answer.


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