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Lyr Req: As I Went Over Blackwater (Mick Hanly)

michaelr 19 Apr 02 - 09:37 PM
michaelr 19 Apr 02 - 09:39 PM
Malcolm Douglas 20 Apr 02 - 08:18 AM
michaelr 21 Apr 02 - 01:09 PM
Jim Dixon 10 Oct 10 - 10:43 AM
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Subject: More Blackwater
From: michaelr
Date: 19 Apr 02 - 09:37 PM

The Blackwaterside thread reminded me of this song from the eponymous Mick Hanly album. It begins "As I went over Blackwater, Blackwater went over me" and goes on to feature some birds commenting on the singer's fate (a bit reminiscent of Twa Corbies).

The sleeve notes only say that Hanly "learned on my grandmother's knee". I'm interested to find out whether it's a fragment of a longer song, what the complete lyrics are, or any other info vou may have.

Thanks,
Michael


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: More Blackwater
From: michaelr
Date: 19 Apr 02 - 09:39 PM

sorry - silly me! The song, of course, is not called "More Blackwater" but "As I went over Blackwater".

Michael


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: More Blackwater
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 20 Apr 02 - 08:18 AM

It seems to have been a children's rhyme known in both Ireland and England, Blackwater being perhaps a localisation. Iona and Peter Opie print a text as number 244 in The Oxford Dictionary of Nursery Rhymes:

As I went over the water,
The water went over me.
I saw two little blackbirds
Sitting on a tree;
One called me a rascal,
And one called me a thief,
I took up my little black stick
And knocked out all their teeth.

The Opies comment:

"James Orchard Halliwell [The Nursery Rhymes of England] included this in his 1853 edition. In his edition of ten years earlier he had printed four lines of what is probably another verse of the song:

As I went over the water,
The water went over me,
I heard an old woman crying,
Will you buy some furmity?

The remaining lines of this verse are given by Ker in his Essay on the Archaeology of Nursery Rhymes (1834), and are of questionable humour."


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: More Blackwater
From: michaelr
Date: 21 Apr 02 - 01:09 PM

Thank you Malcolm!

Michael


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Subject: Lyr Add: AS I WENT OVER THE WATER (nursery rhyme)
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 10 Oct 10 - 10:43 AM

From a rather bizarre book called A Supplement to the Two Volumes of the Second Edition of the Essay on the Archaeology of Our Popular Phrases, Terms, and Nursery Rhymes by John Bellenden Ker, Esq. (London: James Ridgway, 1840), page 282:

As I went over the water
The water went over me,
I heard an old woman crying,
Will you buy some furmity?
With a whip, stick
Your nose in her breech,
The cow leapt over the moon;
My dame she shit in the cream pot,
And we shall have butter soon.


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