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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show & Dillards
From: van lingle
Date: 09 May 02 - 07:57 PM

Thanks for the Roland White website mention, Steve-o. He's had one helluva career. vl


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show & Dillards
From: Steve-o
Date: 09 May 02 - 12:30 PM

If you're truly interested, go to Roland White's website, and you'll see a picture right there of The Country Boys and Andy Griffith playing, on that episode. They played themselves, and there is some question as to whether they were featured in one or two episodes- I believe it was two.


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show & Dillards
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 08 May 02 - 08:33 PM

Hmm, I don't recall that one.


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show & Dillards
From: 53
Date: 08 May 02 - 08:13 PM

The Country Boys played in the episode in which they played Whoa Mule. The one about the folk music album.


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show & Dillards
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 08 May 02 - 01:36 PM

Okay, Which episode did the Country Boys play in? I thought I had seen every episode, and I'm pretty sure that any I episode I saw featuring the Darlings, they were played by the Dillards. Did the Country Boys appear as themselves?


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show & Dillards
From: Steve-o
Date: 08 May 02 - 01:03 PM

You betcha, Van Lingle. Whoever tells you the Kentucky Colonels (Country Boys) were the Dillards doesn't know his/her Bluegrass. And you sure as hell can tell the diff between Rodney (ugh!) Dillard and Clarence White on guitar!!!


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show & Dillards
From: van lingle
Date: 07 May 02 - 10:01 PM

Steve-o mentions the Country Boys appearing in an episode of Andy G. Whenever I tell someone I saw Clarence and Roland White playing Bluegrass on that show they tell me it was actually the Dillards. Nice to know I'm not totally bonkers.vl


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show
From: 53
Date: 07 May 02 - 08:41 PM

Thanks Spaw


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 07 May 02 - 04:18 PM

As I grow older, I find great solace in old black and white movies and TV shows. Bogart, Bacall, Tracey, Hitchcock, film noire, Western Epics, plots that are clever and intricate, characters that are strongly drawn, moral issues with clear concepts of Good and Evil, where Dignity, Intelligence and Right Action reap reward. The notion of "corniness" doesn't trouble me as much as it used to, since what passes for "Cool" these days I mainly perceive as shallow and banal.


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show
From: catspaw49
Date: 07 May 02 - 04:18 PM

Yo! BOB........TV LAND still shows the Andy Griffith Show a couple of times a day. CLICK HERE......daily schedules with episode guides are there too.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show
From: Fortunato
Date: 07 May 02 - 03:54 PM

Oh, how I long for the good old nostalgia of yesteryear, it's sort of like deju vu and alzheimers mixed, I know I've forgotten it before but I know I miss it still, even if it never really happened. I'm off to Mt. Airy, to stay in the Mayberry Motor Inn and eat at the Snappy Lunch in a month. Maybe I'll remember what didn't happen again. chance


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show
From: 53
Date: 07 May 02 - 03:13 PM

TV Land does not show any reruns of the Andy Griffith show now so the only way I'll be able to see them is once a week on Ch. 15 out of Chicago. Boy this is going to send me into a tailspin. Bob


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show
From: GUEST,Nerd
Date: 02 May 02 - 11:16 AM

To each his/her own. I love Seinfeld. But then I grew up in the neighborhood where the characters live and spent mant a college night at the Diner where they hang out.

Interestingly for folk/pop fans, this diner is called "Monk's" in the show, but is actually called Tom's (they always show the exterior so that "Tom's" is off screen to the left, and the only visible word is "Restaurant.") It is the same "Tom's Diner" about which Suzanne Vega wrote the song "Tom's Diner." We went to the same University, and she also used to hang out there, but about 5 years before me...


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show
From: Murph10566
Date: 02 May 02 - 09:49 AM

Hal Smith (the self-jailing drunk, Otis) was originally from upstate New York, and sang in my Dad's band, before heading west to Hollywood, fame & Mayberry...

Another upstate warbler who 'made it' on the small screen so long ago was Kirby Grant... Remember him on Saturday Mornings ?

M.


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show
From: SharonA
Date: 02 May 02 - 09:32 AM

Nerd: Yeah, but they voted "Seinfeld" the number-one best show ever. I'm still scratching my head over that one. I don't know why it's even in the top 10 (so I think "Andy Griffith" should be, at worst, the 8th best!).


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show
From: Nerd
Date: 02 May 02 - 02:27 AM

Hey, Bob

TV guide voted Andy Griffith the 9th best TV show ever. Thought you might like to know.


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 01 May 02 - 03:49 PM

Yeah, but it was one of them there funny banjers with four strings.


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show
From: GUEST,Nerd
Date: 01 May 02 - 03:42 PM

Bob,

sorry for the drift into Dick Van Dyke. It was just that Greg Morris (theoretically) appeared in both, and the whole issue of racial representation in the show was brought up by several posters. Quite a thread drift from Andy Griffith and the Dillards...but Jerry Van Dyke played the banjo in several DVD episodes :-)

classic TV nerd


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show
From: CarolC
Date: 01 May 02 - 12:25 AM

(because I don't think he was born yet)


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show
From: CarolC
Date: 01 May 02 - 12:25 AM

As a sperm.


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show
From: catspaw49
Date: 30 Apr 02 - 09:55 PM

Kevin Bacon appeared in both.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show
From: 53
Date: 30 Apr 02 - 09:42 PM

How did the Dick Van Dyke show come up in this?


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show
From: GUEST,Nerd
Date: 30 Apr 02 - 06:02 PM

Actually, Greg Morris only really appeared in two Dick Van Dyke episodes. "The Last Chapter" is an episode where scenes from Rob's memoirs are replayed. In other words, one of those "we're over budget, so we'll show old scenes" episodes.


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show
From: SharonA
Date: 29 Apr 02 - 05:05 PM

Well, Bob, it took a while but I finally stumbled upon the answer to your question. Jack Nicholson appeared in the episode "Aunt Bee, the Juror". If I remember correctly, this was the one where Aunt Bee thought that the guy on trial was innocent while the other 11 jurors disagreed, and she held her ground until finally another guy either confessed to or was caught for the crime. I don't remember whether or not Nicholson was the young man on trial.


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show
From: 53
Date: 25 Apr 02 - 10:14 PM

What episode did Jack play in and what was it about?


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 25 Apr 02 - 02:47 PM

I remember "Bupkis". I also remember it seemed like an odd song title for a goyim like Rob Petrie to come up with. :>}


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show
From: SharonA
Date: 25 Apr 02 - 02:15 PM

Re "The Dick van Dyke Show": According to this site that GUEST referred us to earlier, Greg Morris appeared in three episodes of the show. As catspaw said, he played the character Mr. Peters in the baby-switch episode "That's My Boy" (9/25/1963), and played Mr. Peters again in the episode "The Last Chapter" (6/1/1966). Does anyone remember that 1966 episode?

The third "Dick Van Dyke" episode Morris appeared in was "Bupkis" (3/10/1965), where he played Frank Mandalay. If I remember correctly, Mandalay was an old Army buddy of Rob Petrie, and together they confronted another Army buddy who had recorded and released a song the three of them had written together – but without the others' permission.


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show
From: thosp
Date: 25 Apr 02 - 12:49 AM

i loved the Andy Griffith Show and i still do --- as for it taking on socially relevent issues - it did - i watch the reruns on tvland --- (which was recently added to my cable vision package) and have already seen a few shows that dealt with womens rights - i'm sure other social issues were also touched on ---- bottom line it was wholesome family entertainment --- i remember three generations of my family watching it together every week--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

on another note Jac H of Elektra --- how about rereleasing D'ian and the GReenbriar Boys?

peace (Y) thosp


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show
From: irishajo
Date: 24 Apr 02 - 11:26 AM

The Beverly Hillbillies apparently provides good Sunday School material.


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show
From: CarolC
Date: 24 Apr 02 - 12:15 AM

Actually, I think the makers of the Andy Griffith show did see it as being at least in part to educate. One of Opie's friends was Jewish, and I think the show was groundbreaking in that respect also.


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show
From: CarolC
Date: 24 Apr 02 - 12:10 AM

I saw the Nicholson episode!


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show
From: khandu
Date: 23 Apr 02 - 11:07 PM

Do any of you remember Jack Nicholson playing a part in one Andy Griffith Show episode? He did!

khandu


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show
From: catspaw49
Date: 23 Apr 02 - 10:22 PM

RE: Greg Morris

An early Dick Van Dyke show had a lot of trouble being approved by the network brass. In this show, a flashback, Dick is convinced that their infant Richie was switched for another baby at the hospital and he calls the other couple to come over to their home. The "punch line" for the show was that when the couple showed up they were black. The man was played by Greg Morris. Even this was a hard sell to the brass though.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 23 Apr 02 - 09:41 PM

I also noticed an episode of Andy Griffith last night where there were a couple of African-American faces in a crowd scene. Granted it is not the same as having a regular character, but by doing that simple gesture I think they were trying to attempt to give Mayberry a stab at reflecting a real town.

I grew up in a New Jersey town during the 1960's and the African-American population was very, very small at the time. Now in 2002 the town is happily diverse, not only a much larger African-American community but also one of the largest Filipino populations in the country as well as a strong Asian community. The town celebrates diversity with annual festivals and events that everyone celebrates. It would have been unheard of in 1960. I'm not trying to say the town is perfect, but there have been substantial changes made since the 1960's. People learn and grow. The initial comments slamming Andy Griffith were uncalled for in my estimation.


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show
From: 53
Date: 23 Apr 02 - 09:06 PM

The show's musicical director did the whistling on the intro of the show. I just learned that last night. Bob


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show
From: DougR
Date: 23 Apr 02 - 08:41 PM

Now don't get carried away, Kendall. :>)

DougR


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show
From: Steve-o
Date: 23 Apr 02 - 05:04 PM

Wow, I unearthed Jac Holzman (quite possibly he was here all the time)- how about the magic of this here medium? Jac, betcha there's 75% of your catalogue on vinyl in my back closet. Elektra gave me countless hours of enraptured listening and LEARNING. Thank you, thank you..


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show
From: kendall
Date: 23 Apr 02 - 04:40 PM

Call the "Home" !! Doug is beginning to make sense! LOL


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show
From: DougR
Date: 23 Apr 02 - 04:34 PM

I don't understand why many of you feel that the purpose for a television sitcom is to educate. It's not! (my opinion only of course) It is to entertain. When it ceases to be entertaining, it ceases to be.

The fact that the Andy Griffith Show had no Black characters is beside the point. It is conceivable that Mayberry had no Black citizens. I never saw a Chinese actor on the show either, or an Afghanstan, or a Japanese. Would it have made the show more entertaining? Maybe. It would depend on the plot of that particular show.

I think actors want to be thought of as actors, not as Blacks, Japanese, Chinese, or anything else. As ridiculous as I thought Halle Berry's "performance" was after she accepted her "Oscar," I think that was the point she was trying to make.

DougR


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show
From: Mooh
Date: 23 Apr 02 - 10:23 AM

I generally agree with folks as to the quality of Green Acres and Pettycoat Junction, particularly as compared to The Andy Griffith Show, but I think one of the best and poorly disguised jokes is the name "Hooterville". In a time when young boys like myself had little on TV to drool over, those hooters were mighty fine! Three pair in a little out of the way hotel made for some fine school boy fantasies...Boy, that takes me back!

(Drool). Mooh.


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show
From: GUEST,Bill Kennedy
Date: 23 Apr 02 - 10:06 AM

I know it's called thread creep, but I've been trying to find the answer to this question for a long while and have asked on ohter threads, but since Jac may come back to this thread after a round of golf or two here goes.

Did Elektra ever release the promised childrens' album of Susan Reed? and if so, where can I find a copy?


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 22 Apr 02 - 10:03 PM

If Jac comes back to this thread, I wonder if he would share some thoughts about the amazing transition in music that happened from 1960 to 1970. Being a period of almost unlimited experimentation and an increasing diversity of tastes, it must have been extremely difficult for the folks at Elektra to anticipate what would be marketable. I would also love to hear Jac's take on how the record business has changed from the inception of Elektra to the present day.


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show
From: Lynn
Date: 22 Apr 02 - 10:03 PM

Boy, for a thread that was supposed to be fun, this one got mighty serious!!


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show
From: 53
Date: 22 Apr 02 - 10:00 PM

Beverly Hillbillies had some good picking on those shows by Flatt and Scruggs.


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show
From: Lepus Rex
Date: 22 Apr 02 - 09:58 PM

Ugh, Green Acres, Petticoat Junction. Hate those too. Wanna know the sick part, though? I LOVE the Beverly Hillbillies. :(

---Lepus Rex


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show
From: 53
Date: 22 Apr 02 - 09:53 PM

I really love all the history you guys are sharing, keep it up.


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 22 Apr 02 - 02:50 PM

Thanks Jac. Hit 'em long and straight.


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show
From: GUEST,Jac Holzman
Date: 22 Apr 02 - 02:42 PM

Ars Nova was signed in 1968. They did one album for us that tanked. They did a second album for Atlantic in 1969 and it tanked too.

I don't know that we were trying to cultivate anything other than record sales. The folk music scene, our bread and butter since 1955, was in serious decline and we tried a number of different acts. The Doors, obviously, worked for us. Ars Nova didn't.

That's it for today. I've got a golf game with Maynard Solomon to get to.

Jac Holzman


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 22 Apr 02 - 02:06 PM

Hi Jac. When was the band Ars Nova signed, and was that an attempt to cultivate an "art rock" niche for Elektra?


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Subject: RE: Andy Griffith Show
From: GUEST,Jac Holzman
Date: 22 Apr 02 - 01:59 PM

We signed The Dillards to Elektra in 1962 and released their first album in 1963. Elektra was almost exclusively a folk music label at that time.

The Doors were the first rock band we signed to Elektra. That was in 1966. We put out their first album in 1967.

Jac Holzman Founder of Elektra Records


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