Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: SharonA Date: 26 Apr 02 - 04:23 PM GUEST: You're getting there, but those are the wrong brackets. For the correct symbols, go to the Mudcat FAQ – Newcomer's Guide, scroll down to the Table of Contents and click on "Basic Mudcat HTML". Here's a link to that section of the FAQ: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=19340#htmlguide Now, please, no more posting to this thread! If anyone else wants to test his or her HTML skills, please start a new thread. Thanks. |
Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: GUEST Date: 26 Apr 02 - 03:09 PM [a href=ww.mudcat.org/thread.cfm/threadid=46912&messages=129#697738]]part two][/a] testing |
Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: Nigel Parsons Date: 26 Apr 02 - 04:10 AM ******This Thread Has Split****** Please see the "Blue Clicky" two messages up from here. |
Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: Ian Date: 26 Apr 02 - 04:07 AM What about GHOST SQUAD I loved the theame tune |
Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: Mark Cohen Date: 26 Apr 02 - 12:41 AM Part Deux. Mary, you make a "blue clicky" by typing the following: [left angle bracket]a href=[URL of link][right angle bracket][text to be highlighted in blue][left angle bracket]/a[right angle bracket] Hope that makes sense! Aloha, Mark |
Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: GUEST,mg Date: 26 Apr 02 - 12:11 AM Part II has been created..not very sophiticatedly but here is the url. I don't know how to make it click. http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=46999&messages=1 |
Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: Peter Kasin Date: 25 Apr 02 - 10:56 PM "Police Squad!" Only on for six episodes, around 1982. One of the funniest TV comedies I've ever seen. Starred Leslie Neilson in the role that was later produced for the big screen as The Naked Gun films. The English comedy from the 60's, "Doctor In The House." It came to the USA in the early 70's. I'll never forget the scene where the interns are singing "Green grow the patients-o." "The Great Adventure." A US history dramatic show from the 60s. Fine acting and scriptwriting. Different cast and subject for each episode. Ruby Dee as Harriet Tubman, for example. As fun to watch as it was educational. chanteyranger
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Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: CyberLord Date: 25 Apr 02 - 09:38 PM Yo Mark & Sharon ! Thanks for the memories, I can't believe I'm actually reading about Sally Starr, Wee Willie Webber, Gene London and the like! Maybe you folks remember the cartoon "Couragious Cat & Motor Mouse". At the first sign of crime (perpetrated by a Edward G. Robinson like character), they would fly (drive) out of their mountaintop hideout with the long plumes of smoke behind their long finned car. Or "Roger Ramjet" on channel 48(?), when UHF was in it's infancy. Howsabout "Lorenzo" the bittersweet clown (hobo) who never said a word but we all knew what he meant. He was one of my favorites. He reminded me of Red Skelton's "Clem Cadiddlehopper". Now That was real entertainment! Does anyone remember Christopher George in "The Immortal"?(he was also in "The Desert Rats") How'bout James Franciscus in "Longstreet" - the blind P.I. with his trusty dog named Pax who was taught how to fight by none other than Bruce Lee, over several episodes. Most of us remember Bill Bixby in "The Courtship Of Eddies Father" but how about when he was "The Magician". Flying around in his private jet and that white corvette, flicking cards from a poker deck at the bad guys? Thanx Again! CL |
Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: RangerSteve Date: 25 Apr 02 - 08:08 PM Nancy King - Yes, I remember Mr. Peepers. I managed to find a video of one episode. I can't get over how Wally Cox could be so hilarious without actually saying or doing anything funny. And the cast - Marion Lorne, Tony Randall - an inspired show if ever there was one. DonM - I was thinking of adding the Disney shows you mentioned, although I'd forgotten about Men of the Western Sea. I doubt the Theme for Texas John Slaughter could get past the wimps who run things now - "Texas John Slaughter made 'em do what they oughta, cause if they didn't they died".
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Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: SharonA Date: 25 Apr 02 - 07:01 PM Here's a link to some info about the Captain Kangaroo theme songs over the years: http://www.classicthemes.com/50sTVThemes/themePages/captainKangaroo.html It seems the original theme music was actually a British light-classical piece by Edward G. White entitled "Puffin' Billy." According to this page – http://www.musicweb.force9.co.uk/music/railways_in_music2.htm – "Puffin' Billy by Edward White [was] inspired not by the old Northumbrian locomotive but by a small engine seen on the Isle of Wight, a movement once used as a signature tune for BBC Radio's 'Uncle Mac's Children's Favourites.' " Here's a site that offers lyrics to a couple of songs that were featured on the Captain Kangaroo show, but no lyrics for the opening theme: http://www.streetcarmike.com/kangaroo.html So is this officially a music thread now? *G* |
Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: SharonA Date: 25 Apr 02 - 06:25 PM Mark: The "Bertie the Bunyip" page on that site mentions Happy the Clown as part of the Channel 6 "All-Star List". The other readers of this thread should click here just to see what one American's idea of a Bunyip looked like: http://www.tvparty.com/lostbertie.html The pop-up menu at the bottom of that page (and the other page I linked) has a message board and a "Contact Us!" page. Maybe they could shed some light on the question of the lyrics to the Captain Kangaroo theme. |
Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: GUEST,Dagenham Doc Date: 25 Apr 02 - 06:12 PM sorry...it's all too much. The Goons of course did have a tv show but nothing like the impact it made on radio. Each Friday night I would go to bed and listen to Bing Crosby followed by the Goons.... bliss. I just thought of Juke Box Jury with David jacobs and the girl from up north who had the catch phrase 'I'll give it five'. Now and then they had a performer hidden behind a curtain and they would come out after hearing the jury verdict. " This week guys and gals it's four young lads from Liverpool" Doc. |
Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: Mark Cohen Date: 25 Apr 02 - 06:05 PM Sharon, what a fantastic site! All those names I'd forgotten until now: Chief Halftown, Wee Willie Webber...they didn't mention Happy the Clown--I was on that one twice! Of course, nobody but you and I (and maybe Max? or is he too young?) will appreciate this. There were also the ones that weren't based in Philly: Captain Kangaroo and Bozo the Clown I think came from New York. OK, here's a musical TV question: I remember the Captain Kangaroo theme song very well -- it was an instrumental (and would stop when the Captain hung his keys on the hook). But I also seem to remember visiting New York with my family once in the early 60s, and watching the show in our hotel, and the theme song had WORDS! Can anyone shed light on that? Aloha, Mark |
Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: GUEST,Dagenham Doc Date: 25 Apr 02 - 06:03 PM |
Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: DonMeixner Date: 25 Apr 02 - 05:48 PM Has no one mentioned Fawlty Towers, Ripping Yarns, or the venerated MP'sFC? Certainly classics and missed by me. I only saw a few episodes of The Goodies but I liked what I saw. Billy Oddie is certainly.......odd. Was the Goon Show just on radio or did it make it to TV. Lets don't forget The Great American Dream Machine. Was Secret Agent called Dangerman in GB? I also miss Lovejoy Mysteries and PBS ran a series about Sid Haley, detective ages back. Now that I'm a Dick Francis fan I'd love to see that one again. We got Quatermass and The Pit as a movie called Seveveral Million Years to Earth with James Donald as a secondary. Was it a TV series in GB? We also had two other Quartermass films, one with Brian Donlevy as Quartermass. Don't know about the other. I recall The Bucaneers with Robert Shaw, was Nick Cravat in that one? Playing his role from The Crimson Pirate? Don
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Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: Lanfranc Date: 25 Apr 02 - 05:15 PM Hang on - these aren't forgotten series, they're fondly remembered! What we seem to have created is a catalogue of programmes that entertained or informed our youth, many of which predated video tape or have been lost. I'm heartened by the British content, but wonder what the kids of today will remember twenty, thirty or forty years on. On the subject of the Dorothy L Sayers adaptations, I could have sworn that the Petherbridge series predated the Carmichael one, but stand corrected. I have the LPs from "Rock Follies" and "Rock Follies of 1977" which are still worth a listen - wonder what happened to the programmes themselves? I also have the sheet music of "Robin Hood" framed on the wall of my office, with Richard Greene in full fig (and tights!) I've just remembered another - "The Buccaneer" which starred Robert Shaw. One episode featured treasure buried on Cat Island, the clue to which was a song sung to the tune of "Liverpool Judies". Nostalgia is all very well, but...... Alan |
Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: John MacKenzie Date: 25 Apr 02 - 03:15 PM H R Puff-n-Stuff, Taxi, Monkey. |
Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: Don Firth Date: 25 Apr 02 - 02:42 PM Britcoms.
Waiting for God (I identify with both Tom and Diana) Don Firth
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Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: swirlygirl Date: 25 Apr 02 - 02:35 PM Degrassi Junior High...would be good for a laugh... :) xxx |
Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: Wyrd Sister Date: 25 Apr 02 - 02:07 PM A Very Peculiar Practice SECOND SERIES - with the (soz) awful American vice-chancellor and his wife. "Another day dawns in the piss-ant swamp" intones Jock to his dictaphone. And the most wonderful answer to the chap stumbling in, thinking he had blood poisoning, "Red marks! Red marks!" "No, I'm more of a Freud man myself." Oh yes - and The Beiderbecke Tapes. Wasn't Robinson Crusoe French? Brian Cant's children's series, set in a junk shop, with a different sound featured each programme. They were little masterpieces of scripting and delivery. |
Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: Metchosin Date: 25 Apr 02 - 12:45 PM Thanks Nigel, I just found that it was Jim Bachus (of Mr. McGoo fame) that narrated for the cartoon. Although I can't seem to find who the voice was, on the record version (I never saw the cartoon, we didn't have a TV until about 1956/7), but maybe it wasn't Harold Peary (The Great Gildersleeves) from Fibber McGee and Molly radio show.
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Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: Nigel Parsons Date: 25 Apr 02 - 12:05 PM Sorry! we crossed. |
Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: Nigel Parsons Date: 25 Apr 02 - 12:03 PM Metchosin: Gerald McBong Boing Here I remember the association 'cos I have a book on Dr Seuss and the war effort, including a lot of his propaganda cartoons. Nigel. |
Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: Metchosin Date: 25 Apr 02 - 11:59 AM How about that? Thanks SharonA, I listened to Gerald sometime in the early 50's on the radio and had never connected him with Dr. Suess, the things you learn on Mudcat. |
Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: SharonA Date: 25 Apr 02 - 11:43 AM Metchosin: According to this site, Gerald McBoing Boing was created by Dr. Seuss: http://www.randomhouse.com/seussville/titles/mcboing/ |
Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: Amergin Date: 25 Apr 02 - 11:33 AM brisco county junior..... |
Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: SharonA Date: 25 Apr 02 - 11:21 AM SINSULL (re your post of 24-Apr-02, 04:56 PM): I think the name of that one show was "Winky Dink", not "Rinky Dink". And my #1 favorite stuffed animal as a kid was the tie-in toy of the "Tom Terrific" show, Mighty Manfred the Wonder Dog. Larry (InOBU): I remember seeing "Crusader Rabbit" in color! It was washed-out color, but it was definitely color. Maybe you were watching on a black-and-white TV set? --------------- I'd like to see "Kimba the White Lion" again. I remember "My Friend Flicka" fondly, and "Rin Tin Tin", too. As a kid, I often play-acted scenes from "Ripcord" and "Time Tunnel". I was too young to remember the Ernie Kovacs program but I wish he'd kept himself alive longer; I wonder where his career would've taken him? Last December I saw a broadcast of scenes from the old Andy Williams Christmas specials, and I remembered not only how much I'd enjoyed the music back then, but how I'd observe the kids in the family each year to see how much they'd grown, and how much better they sang and danced! I watched the same local TV kids' shows in the Philadelphia PA area that Mark Cohen mentions: Gene London's show, "Pixanne" and Sally Starr's "Popeye Theater". I always thought London was kind of creepy, and I could take or leave Pixanne. But Sally Starr was my idol. My mother was always annoyed with her for advertising products by saying, "Tell your mommy and daddy to get such-and-such." But she could do no wrong in my eyes. To me, she was a liberated woman before women's lib was cool: dressed in a sparkling cowgirl outfit, she was always upbeat and enthusiastic on the air, but at the same time exuded a no-nonsense self-confidence that let you know she'd kick your butt if she ever found out you'd let her down by not eating all your vegetables or not minding your parents. For fans of Sally Starr, "Your Gal Sal", here's a link to some info, memories and anecdotes: http://www.tvparty.com/lostsal.html |
Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: Wesley S Date: 25 Apr 02 - 11:21 AM Sinsull - ah yes "Plunk your magic twanger froggie! " How I remember. I miss -
The Defenders The last two are westerns. I hope some of these show up on Nick at Night or TV Land someday. |
Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: Trevor Date: 25 Apr 02 - 10:56 AM Boomerang boomerang this is our song Merrily merrily we stroll along Boomerang boomerang look over there It's Tingha and Tucker the two little bears. Gerald McBoingboing - he must be a Baggies fan! |
Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: Metchosin Date: 25 Apr 02 - 10:34 AM Nigel, unfortunately he was long before Dr. Seuss. The Horton Hears a Who cartoon used to make me cry when I watched it with my kids.
Aha Guest! The flower pot men. Miniseries....Against the Wind. |
Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: GUEST Date: 25 Apr 02 - 09:33 AM The Army Game Bill and Ben Rag, Tag and Bobtail You can date when we got a TV can't you? |
Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: MMario Date: 25 Apr 02 - 09:18 AM Watching 'The West Wing' last night - and realized a mini-series I would *really* like to see again - but don't remember the name of it - it was all behind the scenes at the White House - several generations of staff members if I recall correctly. |
Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: Nigel Parsons Date: 25 Apr 02 - 09:11 AM "Gerald McBoingBoing" Surely a Dr Seuss poem. Does anyone remember the cartoon version of Dr Seuss's "Horton Hears a Who" ? |
Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: BanjoRay Date: 25 Apr 02 - 07:29 AM What about all the old music programs that had some incredible stuff we'd all want to see now if they'd bothered to keep the tapes/film? Such as: The 6:5 special, which had guest appearances by Big Bill Broonzy, Sidney Bechet, loads of old British skiffle groups etc The series of Grand Ole Opry they showed in the UK in the fifties, with Stanley Bros, Bill Monroe & the Bluegrass Boys, Grandpa Jones etc The early 60s play that Bob Dylan appeared in: He would sit on the stairs singing, playing guitar & blowing harmonica. What was it called? Sunday Night at The London Palladium, with Buddy Holly & The Crickets. The series with the white sports car and London Bridge - wasn't that Danger Man, with Patrick McGoohan, the series that preceded The Prisoner? Cheers |
Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: Dave Bryant Date: 25 Apr 02 - 06:07 AM Gareth - Thanks, with your mention of "King of the River", you've answered a question which I'd asked in a previous thread. I'll have to send the info back to the "Cambria" website - coz they knew nothing about the series. After looking at the "Whirlygig" website, I realised that we'd all forgotten on important programme - the Beeb's first television "Soap" - THE GROVE FAMILY. Was it "Puzzle Corner" where they always had a "Deliberate Mistake" and the next week people would send in models and things to illustrate it ? Finally, I'd also like to see Chelmsford 123 back. I liked the history group trying to identify the significance of relics they'd dug up - the episode would then show how badly they'd got it wrong ! |
Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: Metchosin Date: 25 Apr 02 - 05:44 AM CarolC, I remember Gerald McBoingboing on the radio before we had TV. That was the poor little boy "who didn't say words, he made noises instead". Something about "and Gerald went off like the breaking of sticks." A happy ending though, as he eventually got a job as the sound effects person for a radio station. Seems to me the narration was done by someone named the Great Gildersleeves or something like that.
To add to Sinsull's list, Caaaaptain Midnight! and of course Wunda Wunda, Brakeman Bill and Stan Boreson and Nomo.
Zero dachus? please forgive me, I got carried away and I was never sure of the words, even way back then.
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Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: GUEST Date: 25 Apr 02 - 05:25 AM Chorlton & the Wheelies... 'nuff said.... Best Programme EVER.... |
Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: Steve Parkes Date: 25 Apr 02 - 05:22 AM Nigel, I think The Prisoner was going to make sense, but by the time they got to the last few (according to Patrick McGoohan) they realised it wasn't going to after all; "never mind, eh?" ...who said that? Steve P.S. Trevor, have you seen Walsall recently? |
Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: Nigel Parsons Date: 25 Apr 02 - 04:37 AM Jeanie: Private Schultz/ Boon was played by Michael Elphick. The thing to remember is that this story was based on a serious, historic, attempt during WW II by the Germans to destabilise the British pound. Helen (and others): Yes, the Prisoner does make sense (after a fashion) but I haven't got time to go into it now. |
Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: Bert Date: 25 Apr 02 - 04:22 AM Anyone remember "'Allo, 'Allo" |
Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: Jeanie Date: 25 Apr 02 - 04:17 AM I am very pleased to be turning into a sad old codger; old age is going to be such a joy ! Steve - Nelson was Prudence Kitten's sailor brother, and she also had a sister called Primrose.If you remember them, you may also remember "Billy Boots and Priscilla" - they sat on a wall, and all you ever saw of them were their feet and legs. Walrus: - You can see a picture of your headmaster lookalike on www.whirligig-tv.co.uk. The actor was Raymond Francis, and I did Lockhart out of a promotion: he was a Detective Chief Superintendant - I thought he was a mere Inspector. I remember "Gideon's Way" - looked that up, too. John Gregson was the lead, and all sorts of wonderful people appeared in it: Alfie Bass, George Cole, John Hurt, Donald Sutherland. No wonder these old TV series were so good. Bert and Lucy Ann : Yay ! Private Schultz was superb. Can't remember the man's name for the minute, but he went on to play "Boon". I loved the very first episode, when Schultz arrives in England, goes into a pub and tries desperately to appear "British". I vowed I wouldn't look on this thread today, and get on with work. Some hopes. - Jeanie |
Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: Trevor Date: 25 Apr 02 - 03:52 AM I remember being scared and crying at The Silver Sword because I thought that the devastation of Warsaw was actually Walsall! I was only seventeen at the time though! Does anybody remember a drama set in occupied France with Robert Hardy playing the part of a German sergeant called Gratz, who fell in love with a jewish girl who was a member of the French resistance. It may have been called 'Manhunt'. Who was the girl -was it Francesca Annis? |
Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: Steve Parkes Date: 25 Apr 02 - 03:31 AM Muffin the Mule--who or what was Peregrine? Prudence Kitten--who was Nelson?br> The prog with Shirley Abicair was Busy Lizzie, wasn't it? She had a dress with a magic flower on it, which granted her four wishes every day (not the usual three; for the convenience of trhe script, I think). She appeared in Picture Book on ... Tuesdays(?) She was a very pretty sweet child of about four, but she could never remeber to count her wishes, and would eventually try nuber five, which canceled all the others and left her where she started. Ah well, at least she'd never have ended up with a sausage on her nose! < OK: what about Billy Bean and his Funny Machine? (Sounds like a short-lived acid rock band, doesn't it?) I was banned from watching Quatermass and the Pit after going into near-hysterics in the first episode: for a week I wouldn't go to bed, I wouldn't be left alone in a room ... I was seven, I think. Dr Who was small beer by comparison! I think I'm probably ready for QATP now, though. Steve |
Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: Bert Date: 25 Apr 02 - 03:04 AM Dave, How could I have forgotten Muffin The Mule? We were heartbroken when Annette Mills died. And Don, Thanks for reminding me of The Rogues, are any of those episodes available on video? Every one was a winner, kinda like Maverick on steroids. Yeah Jacob, I remember Cannonball it was a piyty that it didn't last too long. They could have done a lot more with that concept. And you're righ LA, Private Schultz was absolutely brilliant. The whole concept of his conning the SS into forging British Fivers, just so that he could grab some for himself and buy a night with this hooker that he'd fallen for. And how he turns from a bad guy, petty crook into a good guy who saved all his Jewish friends, who were also crooks and forgers. And Oh my gawd I've just thought of another one "Dr. Findlay's Casebook". Sheesh I still answer the phone with "Arrrrden Houooos" |
Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: Mark Cohen Date: 25 Apr 02 - 02:31 AM To make this a musical thread, here's a link to my TV Theme Song Quiz from last summer. And yes, I do remember Beany & Cecil (with Cecil the Seasick Sea Serpent!). And who can forget the great Soupy Sales? (Remember the line that supposedly got him kicked off the air: "White Fang, how come whenever I write "F", you see "K"?) In Philadelphia, we had "Popeye Theater" with Sally Starr, "Cartoon Corners General Store" with Gene London, and my first love, "Pixanne": I'll see you in the forest I'll meet you in the forest Come to the forest with me Where things are always happening And there's plenty of things to see So don't go far away Come back next Saturday Back into the forest with me Aloha, Mark |
Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: thosp Date: 25 Apr 02 - 01:10 AM i loved so many of the above mentioned i just want to add East Side / West Side The Defenders and the not so old The Waltons ppeace (Y) thosp |
Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: Helen Date: 24 Apr 02 - 09:22 PM The Lotus Eaters, and any series written by Michael J. Bird. Unfortunately I missed the last episode of The Lotus Eaters and never, ever did find out what happened. MJ Bird wrote dramas with a twist - supernatural (Dark Side of the Sun, & Maelstrom) or mythological (Who Pays the Ferryman?) or mysterious as in the Lotus Eaters, where a very ordinary-seeming housewife turns out to be a sleeper agent. I second the nominations for Waiting for God, Max Headroom, and Jet Jackson Yes, Jerry R, someone mentioned Doctor Who, near the top of the thread ClintonH, The Prisoner never made sense. It was just like a nightmare on an endless loop.
Basil Brush (UK) and Mr Squiggle (Oz) who has only recently been forcibly retired from Oz tv, after a very long innings of 40 years. http://www.ozramp.net.au/~fiawol/squiggle.htm Helen |
Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: Troll Date: 24 Apr 02 - 09:22 PM Anyone remember "The Bucaneers" or "Beany and Cecil"? "Dr.Who" for sure, along with "Your Hit Parade" with Gieselle McKenzie and (I'm not making this up) Snooky Lanson. But of them all, there is one thing for sure. CRUSADER RABBIT RULES!!! troll |
Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: Hrothgar Date: 24 Apr 02 - 08:32 PM Onya, Dave Bryant, for remembering "Brass." Back in the eighties, when the Australian cricket team couldn't beat time with a stick, the only reason for sitting up and watching it was that "Brass" was used to fill in the gap at lunch. Not only a parody of the North of England shows, but it had a shot at "Dallas" and a few others as well. Jerr R: You shouldn't had listed "Dr Who" in a thread on forgotten TV series. Dr Who will live forever! |
Subject: RE: BS: forgotten TV series. From: GUEST,Rufus Date: 24 Apr 02 - 08:25 PM Golden Hind (Francis Drake & co) Rin Tin Tin Clutch Cargo Diver Dan (well - no one said it had to be good!) |