BS: posts over 100 long

Subject: posts over 100 long
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 25 Apr 02 - 11:14 PM

I can't get into the war crimes one any more...can someone start a second one and explain to me once again how to do that? I'll try and learn and make it my business to split them off at 100...usually I can slowly get them after 100 but now I can't. mg

Subject: RE: BS: posts over 100 long
From: CarolC
Date: 25 Apr 02 - 11:59 PM

mg, do you know which of the posts was the last one you were able to read? I can send you the ones you can't get to in a PM if you want.

The way to start a new one is to start the continuation thread and put a link or the URL of the previous thread at the beginning of the new one, and the link or URL of the new one at the end of the previous one.

I'll take care of it for you if no-one's already done it.

Subject: RE: BS: posts over 100 long
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 26 Apr 02 - 12:13 AM

if you can do the war crimes one that would be good. I did the TV one but don't know how to click. Can you tell me here..I give up on PMs because sometimes I am a member and sometimes I am not and it is too frustrating... mg

Subject: RE: BS: posts over 100 long
From: CarolC
Date: 26 Apr 02 - 12:17 AM

I started a new thread for you on the war crimes one. It's called, "War crimes - continuing discussion. Do you know which of the posts in the war crimes one was the last one that you were able to read?

Subject: RE: BS: posts over 100 long
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 26 Apr 02 - 12:27 AM

I went back and I was able to read all of them...thanks..

Subject: RE: BS: posts over 100 long
From: Louie Roy
Date: 26 Apr 02 - 12:37 AM

I personally agree with guest mg on the long threads.If we as intelligent people can't beat any thread to death in 100 opinions then they needs some new faces on the mudcat.When any thread reaches 100 Joe,Max or the ones who have the authority should delete this thread and any other thead that tries to revive it.Louie Roy

Subject: RE: BS: posts over 100 long
From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 Apr 02 - 12:54 AM

One thing you can do, in the meantime, is load the posts in "descending order" I think it's called...from the most recent post down, that is...

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: posts over 100 long
From: Joe Offer
Date: 26 Apr 02 - 01:16 AM

I think Pene has a pretty good solution coming up. When a thread gets to I think it's 50 messages, there will be a button at the end that let you go to the next 50.
It's coming soon.
I think I can promise that now.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: BS: posts over 100 long
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 26 Apr 02 - 03:52 AM

The "Coming soon to a computer near you" option looks good!
I would suggest some arbritrary automatic split of threads (again, 50 sounds good) but I don't know how much programming this would require.
I can't agree with Louis Roy, some threads rapidly reach 100 postings without exhausting, and some before the other side of the Atlantic is awake.
Other threads live on, and are continued 2 or 3 years later by those who make a point of searching for the information they require before starting a new thread. They then post to the old thread so that everyone can see what has gone before. So, to quote Marie Antoinette, a guillotine is not necessarily a good idea!

Subject: RE: BS: posts over 100 long
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 26 Apr 02 - 06:31 AM

I think when starting a continuation thread that's got anywhere near as high as 100 posts, it's a good idea to include in the opening post a copy of the last few posts from the old one, to enable people who couldn't load the old one to join in the discussion.

If it's a long old thread being revived it is quite possible to do that as well, starting it as a continuation with a bunch of old posts included, rather than just opening it up in a way that excludes quite a lot of us from reading it.

Remmember, some people have trouble loading threads with anything much over 40 posts.

Subject: RE: BS: posts over 100 long
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 26 Apr 02 - 07:16 AM

Ok McG, so I suggested an auto switchover at 50, make it 40 and there still will not be too many with multiple extensions.
But, as I said, I don't know how much work this would involve for the PTB !

Subject: RE: BS: posts over 100 long
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 26 Apr 02 - 08:51 AM

My preference is for paging with a user defined page size. The advantage I think it has is that it caters for the fact that not all systems are equal. Someone on a slow system may find 40 posts quite enough but someone with a fast machine and a cable or DSL connection might prefer to read all the posts to a thread in one go and will have no problems loading threads over 100 posts..

Jon

Subject: RE: BS: posts over 100 long
From: Mr Happy
Date: 24 May 02 - 06:36 AM

there's a couple of threads on the forum just now with 200+

they're interesting ones & shoudn't be took off

could someone with the knowhow split these into manageable chunks with blue clisks for the parts

there's 'where are mc's from?' & 'mc's ages'

cheers

mr happy

Subject: RE: BS: posts over 100 long
From: wysiwyg
Date: 24 May 02 - 10:59 AM

No, they can't be split, and they don't get "took off" either. (Read the FAQ) They can always be found using the age filter or Trace function.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: posts over 100 long
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 24 May 02 - 11:31 AM

WYSIWYG: you're right, "They can't be split", they're here, as they are.
The point being made is that (in future) they should be split before they get to much over 40 items. An automated system would ensure that cross references were available. I have split a couple, and cross referenced, and then gone back to the original to remind people that the continuation is elsewhere (others with a greater input than I do so frequently!). But (human nature being what it is) people continue to post to the original thread (and often to the new one as well).
An 'automatic' split might (I don't know enough to be sure) ensure that no new posts could be posted to the first section, and re-direct them to the second (3rd,4th) section.

CHEERS

Nigel

Subject: RE: BS: posts over 100 long
From: Joe Offer
Date: 24 May 02 - 11:37 AM

Well, if a new thread is started and people keep posting to the old one, I can fix that. Pene gave me a utility that allows me to move messages from one thread to another. I have to move one message at a time, so I'm not interested in moving more than about 15 messages.
And generally, I don't like to spend much time fixing non-music threads.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: BS: posts over 100 long
From: wysiwyg
Date: 24 May 02 - 02:05 PM

Nigel, I know, I was just answering Mr. Happy's idea to split them.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: posts over 100 long
From: greg stephens
Date: 24 May 02 - 05:36 PM

Joe Offer or anyone: if an automated new thread start-up is going to be set, could it be set at 40 messages. That is the current limit of UK ntl internet access, which I use.