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Little Hawk 28 Apr 02 - 03:17 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 28 Apr 02 - 03:19 PM
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sophocleese 28 Apr 02 - 03:23 PM
Little Hawk 28 Apr 02 - 03:34 PM
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Jerry Rasmussen 28 Apr 02 - 03:42 PM
Little Hawk 28 Apr 02 - 03:50 PM
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Subject: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Apr 02 - 03:17 PM

Who rates highest in this category? You know the type...they act really badly, they get really lousy scripts which doesn't help, and their films are generally tacky and third rate. They would be forgettable if they weren't SO BAADDD.

I'll start the nominations off with Ronald Reagan.

Take it away, folks!

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 28 Apr 02 - 03:19 PM

Patricia Medina
Steve Brody
Yvonne DeCarlo
Cezar Romero

For starters

Jerry


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: kendall
Date: 28 Apr 02 - 03:20 PM

Chester Morris. (Boston Blackie) Wayne Morris
Boris Karloff.


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: sophocleese
Date: 28 Apr 02 - 03:23 PM

Keanu Reeves, William Shatner


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Apr 02 - 03:34 PM

Gad. I haven't even heard of a couple of those. I've obviously been far too discriminating in my choice of movie entertainment. Nice to see Bill Shatner and Keanu Reeves each making an early and well-deserved appearance, though.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: allanwill
Date: 28 Apr 02 - 03:36 PM

Mel Gibson and Nicholas Cage.

Allan


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 28 Apr 02 - 03:42 PM

You're too young to know the classic b-picture actors, Little Hawk. Dullards like Keanu Reeves are major hollywood stars who weren't even alive when they made "B' pictures. But, he sure has the non-moves down pat. For me Ben Afleck is another stone face, among current "actors."

Recently, another candidate for the "B" picture bad actor Hall of Fame just passed.. John Agar. And what about Scott Brady? strongest jaw muscles on earth. You could probably put Claude Akins in there, too... in a million movies, most of them on the artistic level of the Dukes Of Hazard.

Referring to another similar thread about bad movies that you like, I was bored the other night and bought Salem's Lot on DVD at Walmart. "Starring" David Soul. Haircut actor. Was he Starsky, or Hutch? Someone joked once that John Davidson had a twenty dollar haircut on a ten cent head..

Some supporting actors who did their share of "B" pictures, who were good actors and got a small role in an occasional good movie was Ward Bond. He was always gruff and likeable. One dimensional perhaps, but an enjoyable dimension.

Jerry


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Apr 02 - 03:50 PM

Jerry - Ah, yes, the Dorks of Hazard...LOL!...what a classically BAAAAD TV show that was. It could have been used as the Holy Bible for lousing acting AND scriptwriting.

So this guy Scott Brady with the mighty jaw muscles...was he in a lot of cowboy films?

Actually, I may be older than you think, but I grew up in a TV-less family, so I wasn't exposed to as much video as most people until I was 19 or 20. I missed most of those B-movies, I think. I know what you mean, though, cos I have seen a fair few of them by now.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 28 Apr 02 - 04:19 PM

Nope, Scott Brady was part of a pool of ganster types who talked with clenched jaws. They tended to be in George Raft-type "B" pictures. In the same pool were Steve Brodie, Steve Cochran and Dane Clark. Part of the problem of listing lousy "B" picture actors is that most of those movies never made it to television, so you had to be in the theaters in the fifties. Like me and Kendall.

There were many actresses of the same ilk.. in addition to Yvonne DeCarlo, there was Marie Windsor (who was ressurected to be in the Salem's Lot movie I just watched... anyone who wants it can have it if they are the first to e-mail me their address.. at gospelmessengers@msn.com) You could add Joan Collins to the lousy actresses along with Patricia Medina.

More lousy actors: Ricardo Montalban, Buster Crabbe (even before my time) and Richard Chamberlain.

Jerry


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: kendall
Date: 28 Apr 02 - 04:46 PM

Jeff Chandler. Hugo Haas, Jane Mansfield, Neville Brand, Morris Ankrum. Leo G. Carroll. I like Mel Gibson. That scene in "The Bounty" where he was about to force Bligh into the longboat looked real enough to me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: GUEST,NH Dave
Date: 28 Apr 02 - 04:49 PM

Michael Landon in I was a Teen-Aged Werewolf


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 28 Apr 02 - 05:48 PM

Ah yes, Kendall... throw Neville Brand in the clench-jawed hoodlums pool.

Jerry


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: catspaw49
Date: 28 Apr 02 - 05:58 PM

Good calls from Kendall and Jerry........Let's not forget all of those cowboy B movies, many with John Wayne, a real B actor if there ever was one. Along with Bob Steele, Gene Autry, Smiley Burnette.....Those old B westerns were great....

How about John Saxon...When I think B movie I think of the "Johns" .... Wayne, Agar, and Saxon.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: SINSULL
Date: 28 Apr 02 - 06:21 PM

"Ooooooh Pancho!"
"Ooooooh Cisco!"
"OH BARF!"

The guy who played Adam Cartright on "Bonanza". All that overdone brooding carried over into every role he ever played. I think it was supposed to represent surpressed rage and sexuality. Always looked like constipation to me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: RangerSteve
Date: 28 Apr 02 - 06:48 PM

Pernell Roberts was Adam Cartwright.

My vote for B-movie actor would be Doug McClure. There's a kind of handsomeness that some guys have that makes their facial features so perfect that none of them stand out, and you can't remember what the guy looks like two seconds after you look away. D.McC is one of them. And he couldn't act. Troy Donohue comes to mind, too.

I disagree with the choice of Boris Karloff. He at least had some character. ANd his movies were usually entertaining.

We need women here too. Sandra Dee, Annette Funicello, Ann-Margaret before she took acting lessons.


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: Justa Picker
Date: 28 Apr 02 - 06:54 PM

Elvis
Treat Williams
Micky Rourke
Tom Arnold
Keanu (has to be included in my list)
Eric Roberts
Steven Segal
Chuck Norris
Arnold Schwarzenagar
Ben Afflect (should be doing B's if anything at all)
Dennis Hopper


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: Celtic Soul
Date: 28 Apr 02 - 07:10 PM

Ah, now...I *like* Tom Arnold. No, he's not Olivier, but he delivers comedy fairly well.

Let's consider 99 percent of Jim Carey's work, however.

And for me, the absolute worst has to be Vanna White. Nothing, and I mean *nothing* was worse than the 2 minutes of commercial I sat through advertising whatever film she made some years back ("Aphrodite" or some such???). And that's just the *commercials*. Don't give up your WoF gig, Vanna.


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Apr 02 - 08:17 PM

Bravo! Yes, Vanna White is absolutely essential to this prestigious list. I wonder if we could get her to star opposite William Shatner in a remake of "A Streetcar Named Desire". That would be gripping...

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: Thonolan
Date: 28 Apr 02 - 08:29 PM

Hey, I like Ben Affleck. Especially in the various Kevin Smith movies: "MallRats", "Chasing Amy", "Dogma", and "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back". All of these are cool.


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Apr 02 - 08:49 PM

Was he in "Pearl Harbour"? What a dumb movie that was. Ugh! Nice scene of the battleship capsizing, though...

Let me add Lorne Greene to this list, as one of the most terrible acting turkeys of all time. Hell, let's add the whole cast of Bonanza while we're at it.

How about those black and white scenes of the vicious gangster in the "Home Alone" movies...were those from an actual old gangster film? If so, what was it called, and has anyone seen it in its entirety?

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: kendall
Date: 28 Apr 02 - 09:12 PM

Sandy Duncan in Virginia Wolf.


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: GUEST,jonesey
Date: 28 Apr 02 - 09:39 PM

The lifetime achievement award for a 'Bad Actress' in a B movie goes to Nancy Davis(later on Nancy Reagan). Give Vanna the nod for a 'Made for TV Movie'. The worst actor in a B has got to be Lon Chaney, Jr. yes? I'd say Glen Campbell, except he was in an A movie so he doesn't qualify. For a 'Made for TV Movie' the worst actor is John Stamos. Those are my nominations. If I had to choose one though Vanna White was 'so' bad I watched the whole thing in total shock. She's a nice woman and a good mother, but I 'still' can't believe the brass at the network let it go on the air. Unbelieveable! lol


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 28 Apr 02 - 09:42 PM

More stinkers from the 40's - 60's: Leif Erickson, Cameron Mitchell, Vittori DeSica, Vince Edwards, Richard Egan, Howard Duff (who belched his lines) and one of my all-time favorites, Fabian. You can add Dianna Dors and Arlene Dahl to the talent-challenged women's list.

Jerry


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Apr 02 - 09:57 PM

Yes! Fabian! Yes! That was the name I was trying to recall...

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: Mountain Dog
Date: 28 Apr 02 - 10:56 PM

Whit Bissell, Vernon C. Dent (a regular pompous, mustachioed foil of the Three Stooges), a pair of(up)Chucks Connors and Norris - and another great "Twofer": the superannuated team of Neville Brand and Carolyn Jones (the original Morticia Addams) together in a deep-fried Southern horror B-film focusing on alligators as corpse-disposal devices, steaming bayous, wayward and wisecracking youth bound for gruesome demises, Jones as the haggard proprietrix of a broke-down hotel and Brand swinging a slingblade with a panache that would make Billy Bob Thornton weep with jealousy...Damn! Just wish I could remember the name of that particular drive-in turkey... "The Legend of" Some Damn Thing... (With luck, it'll never come back to me!)


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: SINSULL
Date: 28 Apr 02 - 11:03 PM

Oh yes! Poor Vanna. What a disaster. In complete monotone and third grade school play earnestness: "Do you not believe that I am Venus, the goddess of love?" No Vanna. Nor do you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 28 Apr 02 - 11:09 PM

Mountain Dog: The movie was Eaten Alive ( which I mercifully never saw. I read that it was Tobe Hooper's follow-up to Texas Chain Saw Massacre. Classic after classic. Gee, it sounds good to me... had Freddie Englund (later of Nightmare on Elm Street) Stuart Whitman, another candidate for one-dimensional actors, Mel Ferrer(who was known to be good in some movies) and Neville Brand... another of the "youse guys" hoodlum types with strong jaw muscles. It's available on video, in case you get nostalgic. Or nauseous.

Jerry


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: DonMeixner
Date: 29 Apr 02 - 12:00 AM

Jeepers but I just love opinions. Mel Gibson is an awful actor: Mel Gibson is a great actor! Just opinion. And I haven't yet seen many "B" film actors yet mentioned. I've seem a lot of character actors mentioned who worked in films tho'

Ward Bond was a first rate actor who specialized in military, trail boss, or priest type rolls, a fatherly figure who was incharge. He should have been given an oscar a few times in supporting roles. The Priest in "The Quiet Man." , the regimental Sargent Major in "Fort Apache." and The CPO in "They Were Expendable" come to mind. And off the top of my head I can't recall a single "B" movie he made after 1941 or so.

Claude Aikens was primarily a stage actor who found he could work as a heavy in films so he did. If you think he was a talentless light weight watch "Inherit The Wind" again some time.

Thats true with Neville Brand as well. He was a clench jawed heavy type until some one discovered his skill at light comedy and he spent several years lamooning and laughing at himself.

Dane Clark was a solid charcter guy in war films and Noire films of the 40's and 50's. The troubled guy grasping a last chance in a lot of films. Sort of a John Garfieled understudy.

So far the only truly "B" movie actress I have seen mentioned was Diana Dors. Yvonne de Carlo was a fine stage comdeienne and a good dancer and singer.

But you have left out Lionel Atwill, Richard Carlson, Shepard Strudwick, Rhonda Fleming, John Hodiak, Tallulah Bankhead, Forrest Tucker...... I most cases the ones who were truly bad were the lead roles who were invented by the stdios because of a pretty face.

Most of the people mentioned all had a few shinning moments on film and a bunch of just OK roles. Not unlike the really fine actors and actresses who we think of as artists.

Don


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: catspaw49
Date: 29 Apr 02 - 12:03 AM

What we all need is a movie starring lots of these folks together. I can see Vanna White and Tom Arnold being under attack of the 50 foot woman!!

Tom and Vanna.......All of the diversity and talent to cover the full range of acting from A to B.......well almost to B anyway.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Apr 02 - 12:13 AM

That would indeed be a great movie! Julia Roberts could play the 50 foot woman, and terrorize them with her 38 foot wide smile...GAAAAAHHHHH! LOOKIT THEM TEEEETH!!! Even the young Margaret Trudeau would stand back in awe.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Apr 02 - 01:08 AM

I think Errol Flynn should get honourable mention here too...although he was in big feature films. And how about those guys who played Tarzan in all those dreadful loincloth epics?

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: Jeanie
Date: 29 Apr 02 - 04:13 AM

Leonardo di Caprio: Hopeless in "Titanic" (Dawn French played Jack much better !!) BUT brilliant as Romeo in the Baz Luhrmann "Romeo & Juliet".

- jeanie


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: GUEST,Ard Mhacha.
Date: 29 Apr 02 - 06:47 AM

Jerry, And what about Laurence Tierney a brother of Scott Brady another prize ham. I have to agree with Ranger Steve, Doug McClure a ham too long out of the Fridge, well off. Ard Mhacha


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: GUEST,Geordie
Date: 29 Apr 02 - 07:43 AM

Peter Fonda, Randolph Scott, Gilbert Toland, Farah Fawcett, Glynis Johns, Alan Ladd.


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 29 Apr 02 - 07:50 AM

Many "B" picture actors had occasional good roles in major films. Some "stars" served their apprenticeship in "B" pictures. Charles Bronson is a good example. He played the ignorant henchman of Vincent Price in House of Wax. And, I remember the very first black and white Cinemascope movie released... it was a western with Charles Bronson as the leading man. Some "B" picture actors like John Wayne became famous Hollywood stars but with the exception of an occasional role which required a little acting, they were still extremely limited as actors. John Wayne made a living doing better John Wayne imitations than anyone else.

As for pretty heads, you could toss George Peppard the Baldwin Brothers and George Hamilton in there with the Troy Donohue and John Saxon crowd. It's not their fault that the doulbe feature was gone by the time their careers started.

And if you want to get technical about it, they really stopped making "B" picture in the 50's when the popularity of double features ended. That doesn't mean that there still aren't "B" picture actors and actresses, though.

Jerry


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: mooman
Date: 29 Apr 02 - 07:55 AM

I cannot believe no-one has nominated Liz Hurley yet for the Golden Turkey!

Must be THE all-time worst actress, A, B or C movie!

mooman


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: kendall
Date: 29 Apr 02 - 12:24 PM

Gerald Mohr
Jack Elam
Robert Vaughan
Jack Holt
Tim Holt
Lash Larue
Sunset Carson
Whip Wilson
Duncan Renaldo


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: GUEST,guest Davo in oZ
Date: 29 Apr 02 - 12:33 PM

Hey you guys! Who could forget Victor Mature? What's the 'B'movie equivalent of an oscar-a rosco, maybe? Vic baby must get a nom. for "The Robe", and does he play himself in "After The Fox" with Peter Sellers? (corset, hairdye, always with the mirror... Or maybe it's a great comic role...now I'm confused! A 'Trivial Pursuit' question in my kids' set..."Which Hollywood actor DESCRIBED HIMSELF as 'the Errol Flynn of the B movies?" Hey hey it's ole Dutch himself, one of your unlamented (by me, anyway) ex Presidentes.It's a worry!And now we're to be subjected to Arnie's postponed terrorist movie. The rest of the world suffers from Amerika's 'collateral damage' all the bloody time.(sorry, me get carried away, not humbly appreciate great white father mea culpa) VIVA NED KELLY!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: GUEST,Geordie
Date: 29 Apr 02 - 12:47 PM

I forgor Tim Holt, what aboyt Lash Larue and the bloke who played zorro,,and Richard Greene who did Robin Hood and Robert Newton who overplayed Long John Silver....And Michael Ansara who was every Indian ever born...


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 29 Apr 02 - 12:50 PM

Howzabout Zza Zza Gabor? Or Larry Hagman? Or the Bowery Boys as the all=time champs of "B" pictures? Mark Harmon is another pretty head, and even though he wasn't a "B" picture actor, no one could express anger by chaking their cheeks better than Glen Ford.

Jerry


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: Pseudolus
Date: 29 Apr 02 - 12:52 PM

For the record, I agree with the assessment of the Dukes of Hazard. Not a lot of acting talent needed to make that cast with one exception....Daisy Duke!!! I loved her. Do you remember the time when she, uhhhh, well, then there was the episode when she tried to uhhhh, well, lessee, OH, there was that , uhhh, ya know....aw hell, I really loved her....They even named a style of shorts after her....Any pair of VERY short denim shorts tight enough to cut off circulation are affectionately named "Daisy Dukes"! Now, THAT'S talent.....now what was her name?????..........hmmmmmmmm

Frank


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 29 Apr 02 - 12:58 PM

And Kendall: I see that you whiled away many hours in the dark confines of a movie theater watching cowboy movies. When I was a kid, we had a theater in town that only showed cowboy movies, called the Hitching Post. All of us kids would bring our cap guns to the Saturday matinee and when the guns started blazing on screen, all the kids pulled out their cap guns and joined in. The smoke was so thick you could hardly see the screen by the time the fight was over. I ended up, of course, remembering those days in a couple of songs..

"Cowboys all were honest then, there horses all were trusty
And when they slept out in the rain, their guns never got rusty.
And when they fought, they never lost, but they never won the girl
And the buttons on the shirts they wore were simulated pearl

"And for a box top and a dime, we'd wait a month or more
For a hand-tooled belt that glowed in the dark, just like Lone Ranger wore
And the Three mile creek was four miles long,
Back when I was young
And I knew the words to every song, known to the human tongue

Jerry


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 29 Apr 02 - 01:22 PM

Tony Curtis, James Caan, Melanie Griffith, Leslie Howard, Keanu, Ryan O'Neal (although I liked him in Barry Lyndon).


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: Amergin
Date: 29 Apr 02 - 02:06 PM

well...kind of surprised no one mentioned Miles O'Keefe....who played Tarzan in a 1980 production...with yet another turkey by the name of Bo Derek....

(O'Keefe was so bad the writers would only give him a few words at a time...)

then there was that one gal who played Sheena...


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: GUEST,Ard Mhacha.
Date: 29 Apr 02 - 02:27 PM

Lonesome EJ, I would reinstate Tony Curtis after seeing him in The Boston Strangler, and he fared well in Some like it hot. Ard Mhacha


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: Don Firth
Date: 29 Apr 02 - 02:43 PM

Mel Gibson!?? Keanu Reeves!?? My God, most of you children are far too young to have seen any really bad B-movie actors and actresses. Hell, some of you are too young to have seen a B-movie!

The term "B-movie" came from the days when going to the movies meant seeing a double-feature. There was the main attraction, which usually had the big name stars, and then the B-movie. This was low-budget with lesser known actors. It was like the B-side of a single record (are any of you old enough to remember single records?). Most of the B-movie actors and actresses were so bad and so forgettable that I've forgotten them. I can remember some of the performances, but the names are gone—for good reason. Oddly enough, though, some of the B-movies were better than the main attractions.

Tarzan movies were always main-attractions. During the Forties, they starred Johnny Weissmuller. Weissmuller got the role, not because he was an actor, but because he was an Olympic champion swimmer (five gold medals). He swam a lot and swung a lot, but other than that, all he had to do was grunt and yodel. But he was the one who invented the Tarzan yell*. When later actors played Tarzan, when they used the yell, what you heard was Weissmuller's voice dubbed in (although Carol Burnett could do a creditable job of it). Buster Crabbe was also an Olympic swimming champion. He was considered for the role of Tarzan, but was rejected in favor of Weissmuller. Crabbe did a huge number of movies, mostly Westerns, but he's probably best known for the "Buck Rogers" and "Flash Gordon" movie serials.

Ronald Reagan was mostly in there with the cowboys, but he wasn't quite up to the high acting standards set by Roy Rogers, Gene Autry, William Boyd, and Lash LaRue.

Don Firth

*Trivia:— Weissmuller had a close call in Cuba during the time of the Cuban Revolution. While playing golf, he and his friends found themselves suddenly surrounded by a group of Castro's soldiers intent on kidnapping them or worse. Thinking fast, Weissmuller immediately gave his trademark Tarzan yell. The soldiers immediately recognized it and were so delighted to meet Tarzan that they escorted the group back to a safe area.

P.S.: Uh—that was Sandy Dennis in Virginia Woolf.


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: Willie-O
Date: 29 Apr 02 - 02:52 PM

Karen Black.
Anyone whose first name is Dean.


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: kendall
Date: 29 Apr 02 - 03:05 PM

Adam West
Burt Ward
Gabby Hayes
Yes, Victor Mature: He once tried to join some upper crust club; they told him they didn't admit actors, and, he told them, "I'm not an actor, and I have 50 movies to prove it."


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: kendall
Date: 29 Apr 02 - 03:20 PM

Adam West
Burt Ward
Gabby Hayes
Yes, Victor Mature: He once tried to join some upper crust club; they told him they didn't admit actors, and, he told them, "I'm not an actor, and I have 50 movies to prove it."


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: Don Firth
Date: 29 Apr 02 - 03:58 PM

Sometimes it's hard to separate the stinkers from the giants. Most of the big name actors of yesteryear never really acted, they just played the same role over and over again. Clark Gable always played Clark Gable, Katherine Hepburn always played Katherine Hepburn, Errol Flynn always played Errol Flynn, etc, etc., and though it grieves me to say it, Humphrey Bogart always played Humphrey Bogart—typecasting, I guess. But usually that was enough. Bogart broke loose later on. He really acted in "The African Queen" and "The Caine Mutiny." Showed what he could do when he got worked up a bit.

How about those Technicolor South Sea epics where, at the last minute, the tall, handsome, bare-chested Jon Hall saved the sarong-clad Dorothy Lamour from the evil kahuna just as he was about to placate an angry Pele by tossing her into an erupting volcano? They just don't make 'em like they used to!

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: kendall
Date: 29 Apr 02 - 07:59 PM

Hildegard Neff


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 29 Apr 02 - 08:08 PM

Diana:

Claude Akens was a mixed bag, but he made his share of "B" pictures. How about Monster In The Closet, Manhunt For Claude Dallas,Tarantulas: the Deadly Cargo and The Kettles On Old McDonald's Farm? You could certainly put Ma and Pa Kettle in the "B" picture category.

Neville Brand was another mixed bag with a long list of cheap "B" pictures to his credit.

It seems like Dane Clark was in a lot of movies, but when I run down the list, the only titles I recognize are Action In The North Atlantic and Destination Tokyo. I think that you're right. If he was in a movie, expect him to get killed. From what I remember, he sweat real good.

YeDonne De Carlo? Whatever class she had on stage, she left there. Listen to these titles of some of her movies: Bad Girls In The Movies, Vultures, Play Dead, Silent Scream, Nocturna, Satan's Cheerleaders, Arizona Bushwhackers, Blazing Stewardesses... sound like the movies that Calvin and Hobbes always wanted to rento n video.

Someone else include Leonardo di Capri on this list... an unfair rap. What other potential Teen Fab idol would have played the retarded younger brother of Gilbert Grape? And did it so well?

Even the most mediocre actors have some good roles in them, if they get the script and the chance.

Jerry


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: Ebbie
Date: 29 Apr 02 - 10:50 PM

Not B perhaps, but remember Tab Hunter? Of course, some of the guys were so purty they didn't have to act. I remember swooning over Jeff Chandler.


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: GUEST,Mr Red
Date: 30 Apr 02 - 07:39 AM

Graham Hill in Le Mans. Superb driver but no actor.

Old Actresses never die, they're just Faye Dunnaway.
Only jokin', loved her in "B&C" and original "the TCA".


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Apr 02 - 08:54 AM

Who was it that used to "star"(for want of a better word) in the rash of "sword and sandal" movies (Steve Reeves?)

W


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: kendall
Date: 30 Apr 02 - 09:22 AM

Guy Madison
Richard Boone
Roy Barcroft


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: RangerSteve
Date: 30 Apr 02 - 09:24 AM

Fess Parker, Dean Jones, Tommy Sands, and just about anyone else who ever appeared in more than one Disney flick, with the exception of Fred MacMurray, who was considered a good actor in the '40's.

Wallace Beery, especially teamed up with either Marie Dressler or Marjorie McBride (who were probably the same person). They did great movies, though.

Tony Franciosa and James Franciscus, also the same person.

Leo G. Carroll. I saw him in Tarantula, and all I could think was "it's Topper!".

Hugh Beaumont (Ward Cleaver). I saw him in a movie about an underground civilization - the title had something to do with mole people - He was still Ward Cleaver.

The entire cast of Superman - the TV series. I don't believe I have to point out George Reeves role in Gone With The Wind. He only had one line, but it stands out as one of the worst southern accents ever.

Joan Crawford deserves recognition for going from great actress to incredibly bad B-movie star. Remember "Trog"?

Honorable mention to William Castle for directing. In some cases, he kept many of the people mentioned in this thread working when they'd be unemployed otherwise.


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 30 Apr 02 - 10:26 AM

Martha Hyer. Ice Water.

Jerry


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: Ebbie
Date: 30 Apr 02 - 11:53 AM

Ah, but Jerry, I wanted to look like Martha Hyer. That classic face, the blond, upswept hair. Cool.


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 30 Apr 02 - 01:20 PM

That's all right, Ebbie: I wanted to look like the jazz guitarist Tal Farlow. I knew that I could never play like him. I look more like him than I sound like him.

Jerry


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: GUEST,Ard Mhacha.
Date: 30 Apr 02 - 02:25 PM

And Vera Ralston only for oul Yates she wouldn`t have made The East Side Kids.Ard Mhacha


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: kendall
Date: 30 Apr 02 - 05:02 PM

Terri Moore
Kurt Kaznar
Anthony Zerbe'
Victor Jorry Sonny Bono


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 30 Apr 02 - 06:06 PM

Hey, Kendall: Remember Fuzzy Knight? A true "b" picture actor in them old westerns..

Jerry


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: Peter T.
Date: 30 Apr 02 - 07:33 PM

Two words: Annette.

yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: Celtic Soul
Date: 30 Apr 02 - 09:12 PM

Can I cast my vote again here? My vote for the top 3 worst actors of all time: Tori Spelling, Tori Spelling, and Tori Spelling (followed closely by Vanna White).


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 30 Apr 02 - 10:12 PM

We're running out of nominees here, and drifting into contemporary actors and actresses. As long as we're here you can add George Segal and Sylvester Stallone. As for "B" picture actors and actresses you can add George Maharis and George Montgomery. For the tough guys talking out of the corner of their mouth... George Raft wannabees, how about Steve McNally and Ralph Meeker?
Now if you want to go in the other direction, you can add your favorite "character" actors to the other thread.. making things positive instead of negative.

Jerry


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: GUEST,Ard Mhacha.
Date: 01 May 02 - 06:46 AM

Fuzzy Knight, Rolling eyes and a mouth so twisted he could sing around corners, but along with Smiley Burnette Andy Clyde and co they made my young days happy. Ard Mhacha


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: kendall
Date: 01 May 02 - 08:16 AM

I remember Fuzzy Knight. How about Cleo Moore? beautiful, built like a brick shipyard, but, no talent. I think she was married to Hugo Haas, so, she had no taste either.


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: Don Firth
Date: 01 May 02 - 02:13 PM

If we're into comtemporary actors, how about William Hurt? He's so laid-back most of the time that he could make a whole career out of playing corpses.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 01 May 02 - 03:56 PM

Yeah for William Hurt, although I sure liked Smoke. I think it was Harvey Keitel (who I normally can't somach) who made the movie, though..

Jerry


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: GUEST,The Burren Ranger
Date: 02 May 02 - 01:17 PM

How about everybody in 'Friends' ...and 'Cheers'...and MOST DEF Mel Gibson and Liz Hurley. and I agree with all of the above.... and what ever happened to Horst Bucholzt (sp?) post The Mag. SEven? TBR


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 02 May 02 - 04:06 PM

Add Lloyd Nolan to the clench-jawed, George Raft wannabees.

Jerry


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: GUEST,macca
Date: 03 May 02 - 02:07 AM

And how about Rip Torn - never mind the acting.... just the name! I hope he finally got around to shooting his PR advisor.


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: GUEST,macca
Date: 03 May 02 - 06:29 AM

Oh yeah - and another - Raymond Burr for a part he played in one of the worst movies ever made - Godzilla 1980 (or 85... or something.. A shared Japanese/American production. It was so badly put together even the title was forgettable) I swear he could have phoned the part in while they stood a cardboard cutout in front of the camera and it would have had more emotion in it. Come to think of it, maybe they did.

Mind you, there was a terrific schlock line in it from a US staff lieutenant who, on seeing the devastation that only a hundred foot radio-active plastic lizard could inflict on Tokyo (again) said, "That's some urban redevelopment scheme they've got there."

Cringe.........


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: GUEST,The Burren Ranger
Date: 03 May 02 - 01:07 PM

...and dont forget Audie Murphy....great soldier...lousy actor.... tbr


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: Celtic Soul
Date: 03 May 02 - 11:10 PM

Wow! Rip Torn??? I thought he was hysterical in "Men in Black".

Just the line "Sucks, dunnit?" left me howling...but then, I like that sort of humour with a bite, so I suppose it could have been just about anyone delivering it, and I'd have laughed.

The name is very unfortunate. I know I'll likely never forget it...but there are a thousand other bit players who's names I'll never remember, so is it really so bad?


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 04 May 02 - 12:56 AM

Rip Torn was great in Defending Your Life, by Albert Brooks.

Jerry


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: DMcG
Date: 04 May 02 - 01:26 PM

Sam Kidd seemed to be a bit-player in EVERY English film when I was younger - so much so that my brother, sister and I used to place bets on when he would turn up. Now I can't find any reference to him through Google or on the IMDB.


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: ard mhacha
Date: 04 May 02 - 03:11 PM

DMcG, You are right about Sam Kydd, the man with a thousand accents,he was hilarious in "I`m alright Jack", as the stuttering factory hand. Ard Mhacha


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: DMcG
Date: 05 May 02 - 07:22 AM

Aha Kydd, not Kidd. IMDB does have loads of references for him! Thanks Ard Mhacha


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: kendall
Date: 05 May 02 - 08:20 AM

Steven McNally.


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: Peter Kasin
Date: 06 May 02 - 03:37 AM

William Bendix. Every role he played was William Bendix, and he couldn't even do that well.

I don't think Leonardo Di Caprio should be in this list. He is a first rate actor, one who can become totally the character he portrays. He's just been handed a few bad scripts and has been typecasted lately as a pretty boy. His role in the fine movie What's Eating Gilbert Grape (mentioned earlier) showcases his great acting skills.

chanteyranger


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: DonMeixner
Date: 06 May 02 - 09:10 AM

Regarding Raymond Burr and Godzilla 1980, Burr was in the original Godzilla as a news reporter. Was he also a reporter in the 1980 film?

Don


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: GUEST
Date: 06 May 02 - 09:57 AM

George Dubya Bush hamming every line in the remake of "Ronald Reagan : Leader of the Free World"


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: GUEST,Nerd
Date: 06 May 02 - 05:41 PM

Hey, speaking of Ned Kelly, Mick Jagger was perfectly awful in that movie!

I guess the more recent version of the B movie is the straight to video movie. King of these: Bruce Campbell, for the "Evil Dead" movies plus others. He's had TV roles on Hercules and Brisco County, JR., and is actually in the new Spider Man movie (take a good look at the wrestling announcer). But he's basically a B level actor.

Another one would be Jeffrey Combs, who started off in bad horror flicks like "Re-Animator," and graduated to playing recurring alien baddies in Star Trek shows, especially Deep Space Nine. A great, scenery-chewing ham (which you need for some of those rubber mask roles).

Both of these guys transcend badness,though, because they have a certain flair and personality, rather like Errol Flynn (though in different ways).


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: GUEST,Just Amy
Date: 06 May 02 - 05:58 PM

Did anyone mention Raquel Welsh? Can you say fur bikini?


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: GUEST,macca
Date: 06 May 02 - 09:36 PM

DonMeixner.. In the Godzilla 1980 movie,Raymond Burr played - if that's the word I'm looking for - the same reporter called back from a well-earned retirement and invited to advise the US government and military about the big lizard. Presumably nobody else in the US had seen it in all the sequels since the first film.

Not that I'm complaining... much. I mean, for sheer pointlessness dressed up as deep profound and meaningful while also destroying Tokyo for the umpteenth time, try Godzilla versus Biollante. You will never feel the same about roses again. Hooo boy.

And the only reason I know anything at all about this epic is that I have a son who insists on watching the video again and again while (he says) practicing his Japanese.


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: DonMeixner
Date: 06 May 02 - 10:53 PM

Macca,

Fascinatinglly, is that a word?, the Japanese public has tried Godzilla bunch of ways and the obvious guy in the lizard is by far the prefered beast.

Me, I'm a Mothra fan myself. I even know the the little girls song,

"Ma sou lyah!"

Don


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Subject: RE: BS: Worst B-movie actors & actresses
From: Peter Kasin
Date: 06 May 02 - 11:48 PM

I always wondered why Mothra didn't bang into the sun and die.


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