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Lyr Req: And Her Mother Came Too

C-flat 02 May 02 - 01:55 PM
Frank Maher (extra) 02 May 02 - 05:16 PM
GUEST,Simon Heath 02 May 02 - 05:18 PM
C-flat 02 May 02 - 05:27 PM
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GUEST,martin 12 Jan 04 - 11:55 AM
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GUEST,Philippa 19 Jan 04 - 06:12 PM
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Subject: Don Maclean song
From: C-flat
Date: 02 May 02 - 01:55 PM

I was reminded recently of a song sung by Don Maclean about his Mother/Mother-in-law. I think it's called "And Mother Came Too". I've no idea if it's a Maclean composition but I can't find any mention of the song on any of the sites I've found. Can anybody help?


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Don Maclean song
From: Frank Maher (extra)
Date: 02 May 02 - 05:16 PM

It's called And Her Mother came too!! I have It on an MP3 if You want It!!


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Don Maclean song
From: GUEST,Simon Heath
Date: 02 May 02 - 05:18 PM

And Her Mother Came Too

Is that the one?

Simon


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Don Maclean song
From: C-flat
Date: 02 May 02 - 05:27 PM

Thankyou Simon, that looks like the one. I hadn't realised it was an old song! Frank, I would to do the MP3 thing but I'm a total computer dunce and wouldn't know where to begin! Still, thanks for the offer. Now, if anyone could post the melody..........


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Don Maclean song
From: GUEST,Simon Heath
Date: 02 May 02 - 05:32 PM

C-flat

The tune is played in the background as a 'midi' in the link I posted.

How would you like the melody posted? Presumably not as an ABC, if you're a self confessed 'computer dunce'

Let me know what works best for you, and I'll try to help.

Simon


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Don Maclean song
From: C-flat
Date: 03 May 02 - 02:23 AM

Simon, sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. My partner, who is far cleverer than me, says she can show me what to do with an MP3 file. Would you be kind enough to send it to me? Thanks in advance.


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Don Maclean song
From: C-flat
Date: 04 May 02 - 09:11 AM

It doesn't look like Guest Simon is returning, I must have been too slow taking him up on the offer. If there's anyone else who can help with this I'd be grateful.


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Don Maclean song
From: GUEST,martin
Date: 12 Jan 04 - 11:55 AM

dear C-flat
I've just been watching a video of a film called Gosford Park in which one of the characters, one Ivor Novello, sings some of his own creations, 'And Mother Came Too'. I wondered if this was where Don McLean got his less charlestonesque version from?


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Don Maclean song
From: C-flat
Date: 12 Jan 04 - 12:41 PM

Hi GUEST Martin, the music is indeed credited to Ivor Novello and the lyrics to Dion Titheradge.
Since posting this thread in 2002 I also saw Gosford Park and, although I found the movie labourious, noted the clip you mentioned with interest.
I have heard a few re-workings of old 20s/30s songs, in particular James Taylors' version of "Walking my baby back home" and I think they work quite well.
C-flat.


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Subject: Lyr Add: AND HER MOTHER CAME TOO!
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 13 Jan 04 - 11:02 PM

Copied from http://members.aol.com/Novello/mother.html

AND HER MOTHER CAME TOO!
(Words, Dion Titheradge. Music, Ivor Novello. ©1921)

I seem to be the victim of a cruel jest.
It dogs my footsteps with the girl I love the best.
She's just the sweetest thing that I have ever known,
But still we never get the chance to be alone.

My car will meet her,
    And her mother comes too!
It's a two-seater.
    Still her mother comes too!
At Ciro's when I am free,
At dinner, supper or tea,
She loves to shimmy with me,
    And her mother does too!

We buy her trousseau,
    And her mother comes too!
Asked not to do so,
    Still her mother comes too!
She simply can't take a snub;
I go and sulk at the club,
Then have a bath and a rub,
    And her brother comes too!

There may be times when couples need a chaperone,
But mothers ought to learn to leave a chap alone.
I wish they'd have a heart and use their common sense,
For three's a crowd, and more, it's treble the expense.

We lunch at Maxim's,
    And her mother comes too!
How large a snack seems
    When her mother comes too!
And when they're visiting me,
We finish afternoon tea,
She likes to sit on my knee,
    And her mother does too!

To golf we started,
    And her mother came too!
Three bags I carted,
    When her mother came too!
She fainted just off the tee,
My darling whispered to me,
"Jack, dear, at last we are free!"
    But her mother came to!


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Subject: RE: Lyr/Chords Req: Don Maclean song
From: Joe Offer
Date: 14 Jan 04 - 01:21 AM

This page says Ivor Novello was born January 15th, 1893, and died March 6th, 1951 - "the Welsh actor, composer and playwright who was Britain's greatest genius of the musical stage."
It's on the 1992 Don McLean CD called Favorites and Rarities, which I see is for sale at Amazon for $99.99. I'll gladly sell my copy for $99.98 - or even less.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Req: Don McLean song: And Her Mother Came Too
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 19 Jan 04 - 05:03 PM

Ivor Novello was jailed during the last war for using forged petrol coupons. He was sent to Wormwood Scrubs jail, where he was given priveleged treatment, and a private cell. There is a song that was written about this to the tune of The Girl I left Behind Me.


Oh me name is Mike, or Mick if you like
Me second name's O'Reilly
And I'm doing me best on a 2 year stretch
On account of a judge named Smiley
I know all the nobs of the flash boy mobs
I'm an old sky rocket diver
But we are the mugs of Wormwood Scrubs
Compared with a bloke named Ivor.

I will try to find the rest, and who wrote it.
John


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Subject: RE: Req: Don McLean song: And Her Mother Came Too
From: GUEST,Philippa
Date: 19 Jan 04 - 06:12 PM

at least the bulldog didn't come along to Maxim's with the missus and the mother!


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Subject: RE: Req: Don McLean song: And Her Mother Came Too
From: JennieG
Date: 19 Jan 04 - 10:29 PM

Noel Coward recorded this one....he did it very well in that bored-sounding voice of his. I haven't heard the Don MacLean version.
Cheers
JennieG


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Subject: RE: Req: Don McLean song: And Her Mother Came Too
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 09 Apr 04 - 12:42 AM

Here are 2 more verses, transcribed from a sound file at The Virtual Gramophone:

We started walking,
    And her mother came too.
We both were talking,
    And her mother was too.
The street was icy, you see.
She tumbled down on her knee.
My darling fell hard for me,
    And her mother did too.

We arrive at the movies,
    And her mother comes too.
It costs two berries,
    Still her mother comes too.
When Valentino is there,
My darling forgets ev'ry care,
And simply gives me the air,
    And her mother does too.


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Subject: RE: Req: Don McLean song: And Her Mother Came Too
From: Flash Company
Date: 09 Apr 04 - 11:23 AM

Recording I had of this was Jack Buchanan, as a trilogy of songs on a '78, I think the other two were 'Who' and 'Two little Blue -birds'

FC


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: And Her Mother Came Too
From: Abby Sale
Date: 14 Jun 18 - 09:36 PM

John MacKenzie, et al.

At the time of your post, "Ivor" had already been posted to the data base (I believe) by a few years by somebody. See Ivor clicker

He was sent to Wormwood Scrubs prison for eight weeks (he served four) for misuse of petrol coupons - a serious offence in wartime Britain. ... In the era of silent films, Ivor Novello was hugely popular as a matinee idol, and one of the most handsome men in British theatre. May 18, 2010
BBC - Wales - Arts - Ivor Novello - Ivor Novello biography

BBC clicker

"Ivor Novello (15 January 1893 - 6 March 1951), born David Ivor Davies, was a Welsh composer and actor who became one of the most popular British entertainers of the first half of the 20th century.

Wiki clicker


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