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greg stephens 07 May 02 - 07:27 AM
catspaw49 07 May 02 - 07:38 AM
greg stephens 07 May 02 - 08:01 AM
GUEST,Paul 07 May 02 - 08:01 AM
GUEST,T-boy 07 May 02 - 08:05 AM
greg stephens 07 May 02 - 08:06 AM
greg stephens 07 May 02 - 08:17 AM
greg stephens 07 May 02 - 08:35 AM
Wolfgang 07 May 02 - 09:52 AM
MMario 07 May 02 - 09:58 AM
GUEST,JohnB 07 May 02 - 12:33 PM
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Kernow John 07 May 02 - 02:03 PM
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Jeanie 07 May 02 - 04:27 PM
treewind 07 May 02 - 05:28 PM
GUEST,Phil A 07 May 02 - 05:46 PM
Jeanie 07 May 02 - 05:50 PM
GUEST,Peter from Essex 07 May 02 - 05:53 PM
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Subject: most melodious English county
From: greg stephens
Date: 07 May 02 - 07:27 AM

Started this discussion on the Cumberland Road thread. Which English county has most tune/songtitles containg the name? My guess is going to be Lancshire or Yorkshire but I kicked off with Cumberland Reel (2 separate tunes), Cumberland Nelly, Bonny Cumberland, Canny Old Cumberland, Cumberland Mountain Bear Chase, Cumberland Gap, Cumberland Road, Cumberland March.(Some might consider the American and Irish cheating, but it's the name that counts. But I'm not going to accept songs about President Lincoln, it's got to be LincolnSHIRE). Feel free to digress into Scotland Ireland etc. But no Americn states, they're too big. Counties only, or equivalent small areas. And no towns, either, that' another thread. ( I know 7 different tunes all called the Manchester Hornpipe, just to stake my claim!). Anyway, keep them coming. I want a northern county to win, so rack your brains.


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Subject: RE: most melodious English county
From: catspaw49
Date: 07 May 02 - 07:38 AM

Guest Paul's list....Copied from the other thread:

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Thread #47290   Message #705812
Posted By: GUEST,Paul
07-May-02 - 06:49 AM
Thread Name: Query:Cumberland Road?
Subject: RE: Query:Cumberland Road?

Greg,
In answer to your query, there's:

The Lancashire Reel
Lancashire Clog Dance
Lancashire Quadrilles
A Lancashire Carol
Old Lancashire Hornpipe
The Lancashire lass
The Lancashire witches
Lancashire tragedy
The Lancashire heroes
The Lancashire lad
Lancashire Dick
Lancashire's glory
The Lancashire emigrant's farewell
The Lancashire lady's wedding
The Lancashire lovers
Lancashire miners


For starters...

Paul


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Subject: RE: most melodious English county
From: greg stephens
Date: 07 May 02 - 08:01 AM

Cracking entry, Paul. And thanks for transferring it Spaw. Well that's sixteen for Lancashire, and I'll throw in "She's a lassy from Lancashire" as well. Making Lancashire 17, Cumberland 9, so far. More please. I'll carry on with the northwest theme with Westmorland, but it's a bit pathetic. Westmorland Waltz, Bonny Westmorland, and the Westmorlnd Hornpipe is all I can manage off the top of my head.


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Subject: RE: most melodious English county
From: GUEST,Paul
Date: 07 May 02 - 08:01 AM

Yorkshire Hornpipe
Yorkshire Lasses
The Yorkshire March
The Yorkshire horse- dealers
The Yorkshireman in London
The Yorkshire Irishman
The Yorkshire concert
Yorkshireman's coat of arms
Yorkshire Dick
Yorkshire girl's policy
The Yorkshire beauty
The Yorkshire tragedy
Yorkshire Sam
The Yorkshire wedding
The Yorkshire Couple

And back to Lancashire: "Over the Lancashire Hills"


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Subject: RE: most melodious English county
From: GUEST,T-boy
Date: 07 May 02 - 08:05 AM

Sorry to be pedantic, but Cumberland and Westmorland aren't counties.


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Subject: RE: most melodious English county
From: greg stephens
Date: 07 May 02 - 08:06 AM

Paul, you're good at this. Are you using a computer, or from memory? Score so far Lancashire 18. Yorkshire 15, Cumberland 9, Westmorland 3.


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Subject: RE: most melodious English county
From: greg stephens
Date: 07 May 02 - 08:17 AM

T-boy: I set this challenge, not you. Cumberland and Westmorland are counties.So is Rutland.Got any problems with that? I would like to clarify the rules slightly: I think insisting on the county name discriminates against Cornwall, which has an adjective "Cornish". So if we can have "Yorkshire Lasses" it's only fair to include Cornish Lasses, or whatever. anyway, come on you effete southerners. Must be a few Essex Dicks about.


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Subject: RE: most melodious English county
From: greg stephens
Date: 07 May 02 - 08:35 AM

"The Lancashire Toreador". "The Bonny Bryer:or a Lancashire Lass her Sore Lamentation". Lancashire 20 Yorkshire 15


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Subject: RE: most melodious English county
From: Wolfgang
Date: 07 May 02 - 09:52 AM

Yorkshire tup

A fine old Yorkshire gentleman (sung by Bill Price)

Farewell to South Yorkshire (see DT)

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: most melodious English county
From: MMario
Date: 07 May 02 - 09:58 AM

"The Grand Pubs of Yorkshire" - see the forum


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Subject: RE: most melodious English county
From: GUEST,JohnB
Date: 07 May 02 - 12:33 PM

From C Fox Smiths "Lancashire Hunting Songs and other Moorland Lays" "I wish I was in Lancashire". There is also the Lancashire Lads (The Lancashire Lads have gone abroad whatever shall I do, leaving many a pretty fair maid to cry what shall I do) you know, that one. Also "A Lancashire Ditty" (Way down in 't coal hole) JohnB


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Subject: RE: most melodious English county
From: GUEST,JohnB
Date: 07 May 02 - 01:02 PM

From C Fox Smiths "Lancashire Hunting Songs and other Moorland Lays" "I wish I was in Lancashire". There is also the Lancashire Lads (The Lancashire Lads have gone abroad whatever shall I do, leaving many a pretty fair maid to cry what shall I do) you know, that one. Also "A Lancashire Ditty" (Way down in't coal hole, where muck slaps on't winders) JohnB


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Subject: RE: most melodious English county
From: Kernow John
Date: 07 May 02 - 02:03 PM

Cornwall is a country not a county!!**BG**
KJ


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Subject: RE: most melodious English county
From: Ned Ludd
Date: 07 May 02 - 03:06 PM

John B, I take issue with claiming t' Bum bailiff song for lancs (we're all dahn int cellar 'oil) I learned that from my Gran, and round here it's known as t' Barnsley anthem!


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Subject: RE: most melodious English county
From: catspaw49
Date: 07 May 02 - 03:09 PM

Subject: Query:Cumberland Road? From: Peter T. Date: 04-May-02 - 07:57 PM

Can anyone tell me who wrote "Cumberland Road"? Is it a trad Irish song, or something more recent? I can find no reference to it anywhere (no lyrics in DT either).

yours, Peter T.

Just thought I'd throw that in........Spaw


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Subject: RE: most melodious English county
From: Jeanie
Date: 07 May 02 - 04:27 PM

So far, on behalf of the wonderful county of the East Saxons, I have found two (both courtesy of the University of Essex Football Club): "Essex Aces" (sung to the tune "Bladon Races") and "You Filthy Essex Whore" (sung to "When I'm 64"). I am putting on my white stilettos as I speak, anxiously in search of something a little more "refained". I may be gone some time.

- jeanie


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Subject: RE: most melodious English county
From: treewind
Date: 07 May 02 - 05:28 PM

Dave Roberts wrote a tune to go with the Sussex Mazurka, called the Esssex Bazurka.

That's one for each county...

Anahata


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Subject: RE: most melodious English county
From: GUEST,Phil A
Date: 07 May 02 - 05:46 PM

Durham Lads; Four Minutes in Durham; Durham Gaol; I'm gonna leave old Durham town (sic); Durham Lockout;

and of course, The Pink Panther Theme (dur-um, dur-um ... durum, durum,durum, durum dur-urrr-um) ;o)


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Subject: RE: most melodious English county
From: Jeanie
Date: 07 May 02 - 05:50 PM

Right... I'm back ! Coo, them stilettos ain't half killing me... So far, for ESSEX, we have a grand total of 16. There's a surprise ! Some are more refined than others. In addition to the three already listed (thanks Treewind - I didn't find that one) there are: "The Earl of Essex Measure" (posh, or what ?); "The Right Honourable Robert, Earle of Essex, His Galliard" (how much more proper can you get ?); "Essex March" (by Erich Korngold... Downhill from here on in, we have: "Essex Boys" (Depeche Mode); "Essex Dogs" (Blur); "Essex Girl" (Rockbitch, from the album Motor Driven Bimbo); "Essex Hair" (Baltimucho by Love Nut); "Essex Make Some Noise" (101% Speed Garage Anthems 2000); "Essex Pt.1" (Gil Scott-Haran); "A Visit to 34 Essex Street" (Bob Franke); "Essex Sun" (Valve); "The Crew of the Essex"; "West Essex" (Masters of the Hemisphere).

No Essex Dicks, though, Greg, - not that I discovered, anyway...

- jeanie


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Subject: RE: most melodious English county
From: GUEST,Peter from Essex
Date: 07 May 02 - 05:53 PM

Adrian May's Essex Brawl

Jeannie, the idea of you in white stilletos is getting me over excited.


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Subject: RE: most melodious English county
From: greg stephens
Date: 07 May 02 - 06:26 PM

After a brilliant stiletto clad entry the south is fighting back.Currently 3 out front, Lancashire on 23, Yorkshire 18 and Essex 17, Cumberland who started the race now fading badly on 9 and the rest well out of sight. But it's early days yet.


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Subject: RE: most melodious English county
From: Ebbie
Date: 07 May 02 - 07:24 PM

Wow. I don't think I know more than a dozen place-name tunes in the U.S., all told, (not counting states' names.) Are our names less tuneful? Can't be- we stole a lot of them from the UK.


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Subject: RE: most melodious English county
From: Jeanie
Date: 07 May 02 - 07:57 PM

Grand total for ESSEX now stands at 18 : "The Essex Grauncher's Song" culled from the capacious gander bag of Rambling Syd Rumpo.

Peter, I forgot to mention the fluorescent lime green shell suit. That should dampen your ardour somewhat.

- jeanie


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Subject: RE: most melodious English county
From: GUEST,Man with long hair smoking funny tobacco
Date: 07 May 02 - 08:56 PM

Cany old Essex Buds Green Grow the Essex O The Darling Buds of Essex I smoked with the Earl of Essex Down a smokey Essex coalmine My old Bud from Essex. The weed among the Essex blooms Wow! man I know there are more, just can't remember them


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