Subject: RE: Tune Req: The Lonesome Boatman (Finbar Furey) From: GUEST,machree01 Date: 19 Aug 09 - 06:53 AM Here is Finbar perfoming Lonesome Boatman in concert, along with the lads, recorded in Opera House, Belfast, 1990. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Chb6om-bezA |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: The Lonesome Boatman (Finbar Furey) From: Folkiedave Date: 21 Mar 09 - 06:18 AM Nothing like the Furey's. The instrument Finbar originally played this on was a flute bought from an Oxfam shop. Indian it may have been. It was bound up with sellotape as it gradually got more and more battered. When he finally sat on it he got Bernard Overton to make a low keyed whistle. The story is in this thread. |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: The Lonesome Boatman (Finbar Furey) From: GUEST,woodsie Date: 21 Mar 09 - 04:28 AM That's not Finbar Furey - some kid botching the tune! |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: The Lonesome Boatman (Finbar Furey) From: terrier Date: 16 Feb 09 - 07:01 PM Here's a You tube clip of the Fureys and Davy Arthur playing it. Lonesome Boatman |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: The Lonesome Boatman (Finbar Furey) From: Folkiedave Date: 16 Feb 09 - 02:35 PM Till he sat on the flute! |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: The Lonesome Boatman (Finbar Furey) From: GUEST,woodsie Date: 16 Feb 09 - 02:30 PM Finbar performs it on an Indian flute |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: The Lonesome Boatman (Finbar Furey) From: GUEST,molly Date: 16 Feb 09 - 01:59 PM it is a irish tale. its proformed by an irish flute, or a flute, or the recorder. |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: The Lonesome Boatman (Finbar Furey) From: GUEST,Quokka Date: 23 Jul 08 - 09:32 AM My sister plays this tune on the tin whistle - brings the house down every time she plays it. |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: The Lonesome Boatman (Finbar Furey) From: GUEST Date: 23 Jul 08 - 09:30 AM |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: The Lonesome Boatman From: GUEST,Jacqued Date: 23 Mar 04 - 03:28 PM Whoops,Dave. Another senior moment! |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: The Lonesome Boatman From: Dave Bryant Date: 23 Mar 04 - 11:25 AM You refer to it as "the Fureys' version" - Finbar Furey actually wrote it in the first place. |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: The Lonesome Boatman From: manitas_at_work Date: 23 Mar 04 - 08:11 AM It always seems to me to be a very incomplete version of "Bonny at Morn" and what's worse falls into the "New Age/Celtic" trap rather than sounding like a good traditional air. |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: The Lonesome Boatman From: MudGuard Date: 23 Mar 04 - 07:34 AM found at the ABC tunefinder I also love that tune! But far too complicated to play for a beginner like me... MudGuard a/k/a Andy |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: The Lonesome Boatman From: Dave Hanson Date: 23 Mar 04 - 07:16 AM It is in the Furey's song book in whistle tablature. eric |
Subject: Tune Req: The Lonesome Boatman From: GUEST,Jacqued Date: 23 Mar 04 - 06:30 AM We have just heard (for the first time!) The Fureys version of "The Lonesome Boatman". It's a cracker and I wonder if anyone out there has the music for this tune? I am learning the tin whistle and would love to leanr this tune. Many thanks, Jacqued |
Subject: RE: Lonesome boatman From: Kernow John Date: 21 May 02 - 11:31 AM Refresh KJ |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: The Lonesome Boatman From: Kernow John Date: 21 May 02 - 11:28 AM Alison posted this tune a while back. I will see if I can find it. John |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: The Lonesome Boatman From: GUEST,norb Date: 21 May 02 - 05:18 AM Thanks. Will check the tune when I get home... |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: The Lonesome Boatman From: Dave Bryant Date: 21 May 02 - 05:00 AM The Lonesome Boatman is not Trad Irish - it was written by Finbar Furey. |
Subject: RE: Tune Req: The Lonesome Boatman From: GUEST Date: 21 May 02 - 04:18 AM Go to JC's ABC Tune Finder |
Subject: The Lonesome Boatman From: GUEST,norb Date: 21 May 02 - 03:47 AM Hi I`m not sure if I'm right here (so please throw the thread out if it's wrong), but I'm looking for a MIDI-file of the irish folk song "the Lonesome Boatman". I really browsed the web for an hour or so and just found one, and that didn't have the chords (the others I found were Elvis...) So if you have one or know an address, I'd be very thankful. Bye Norb norb@d-fens.de |
Subject: RE: Lonesome boatman From: Big Mick Date: 16 Dec 00 - 09:42 AM And the Furey's do have a songbook which includes the dots to this song. It is called "The Fureys & Davey Arthur Song book". It is a Soodlum's book. Another source for the tune is THE LOW WHISTLE BOOK by Steafan Hannigan & David Ledsam. This is a tutorial for the low whistles and is very good. It has the music for this song in it. You might try Elderly Instruments for either of these items. They are at www.elderly.com. They have a search engine on their site. All the best, Mick |
Subject: RE: Lonesome boatman From: GUEST,Alex Roan Date: 16 Dec 00 - 05:24 AM thanks everyone. I got the GIFt from Alison okay and I'm sure lots of people will be happy to abail of the midi. |
Subject: RE: Lonesome boatman From: Alan of Australia Date: 15 Dec 00 - 11:18 PM G'day, Thanks to alison the tune for "The Lonesome Boatman" can be found here at the Mudcat MIDI site.
Cheers, |
Subject: RE: Lonesome boatman From: alison Date: 12 Dec 00 - 12:58 AM I've just sent the MIDI to Mudcat MIDIs (please remeber it is the simplified version.... jsut add twiddly bits *grin*) Alex.. if you'd like the "dots" send me an email and I'll forward you a GIF slainte alison epulse@tpg.com.au |
Subject: RE: Lonesome boatman From: Helen Date: 11 Dec 00 - 07:01 PM Alex, I just checked to see if we had this on the Mudcat Midi page but we don't. If you look at Alison's posting with the red writing you can download a copy of alan's simple test-to-Midi program and then use the text info to convert it into a Midi. Then, if you have music notation software such as Noteworthy (available as a free demo version, which allows printing out as sheet music, available from this site http://www.ntworthy.com/ ) then you can open the midi file, hear it play and print it out. The Fureys have recorded it on a number of albums so you may find an audio file of it at one of the CD shops online. Don't give up though if none of this works. I'm sure we can work something out. Helen |
Subject: RE: Lonesome boatman From: GUEST,Alex Roan Date: 11 Dec 00 - 05:56 PM any on line sheet music? recordings I can listen to (including on line)? |
Subject: RE: The Lonesome Boatman From: alison Date: 24 Nov 98 - 03:12 AM hi Mike, Not quite... like to check in at least once a day though.... to keep in touch with all my friends. Slainte alison |
Subject: RE: The Lonesome Boatman From: mike.mcgrath@virgin.net Date: 23 Nov 98 - 03:20 AM Alison, how do you do it, you came up with the information overnight. Do you live on the web? :-) Many thanks Mike |
Subject: RE: The Lonesome Boatman From: alison Date: 22 Nov 98 - 10:01 PM Hi, Here you go Lonesome Boatman Tune thread Slainte alison |
Subject: RE: The Lonesome Boatman From: alison Date: 22 Nov 98 - 09:57 PM Hi, I'm sure I've put it here before. Hang on.... I'll check... Slainte alison |
Subject: RE: The Lonesome Boatman From: Big Mick Date: 22 Nov 98 - 07:55 PM Mike, The music is available in The Fureys & Davey Arthur Song Book, published by Soodlum. Copyright 1984 Walton MNF, Ltd. Mick |
Subject: The Lonesome Boatman From: mike.mcgrath@virgin.net Date: 22 Nov 98 - 02:42 PM Hi I'm after the music or links to the notes or abc for a Fureys whistle tune called The Lonesome Boatman. I know this is a song database but I'm hoping someone out there might be able to help. Thanks Mike |
Subject: RE: Lonesome boatman From: alison Date: 22 Apr 98 - 07:45 PM Hi, Thanks Baz. I deliberately left out the intro. I'm one of those teachers who encourages them to play it their own way. They know how to ornament.... I give them the basic tune... then they invent...... Slainte alison |
Subject: Tune Add: THE LONESOME BOATMAN From: BAZ Date: 22 Apr 98 - 05:43 PM Carl This one won't play like Alison's but if you get hold of a copy of ABC and load this into it it will give you the sheet music as it is in the Furey's song book, twiddly bits as well. Here is the intro to Finbar Furey's Lonesome Boatman It is played with a very free timing. The time signature in the ABC file is only there because the program demands one. Don't bother trying to play the tune as an ABC tune (I know you will) it will sound just like Morse code. The lack of bar lines and musical sense makes it impossible (undertandably) to translate it to a midifile from the ABC file. If you print it as it stands it will come out looking like the sheet music (strange with very few bar lines). But if you take it bit by bit you should finish up playing a very acceptable version of Finbar's beautiful tune (I can't but my wife can). One word of advice get an early as possible recording of this as Finbar subjects his own tune to the folk process and over the years (he wrote it when he was 19) has added numerous trills and slides! As you can imagine it took some time to produce just the intro. However, if it will be of use to your student let me know and I will transcribe the rest.
The four long notes in Bar 1 should be played as one long note sliding from one to the other in pitch. Ditto the first 4 in line 5 and the last 3 notes in line 9. |
Subject: RE: Lonesome boatman From: Alan of Australia Date: 22 Apr 98 - 09:05 AM G'day, Don't you just hate people who can do that? Musicator is a good (slightly quirky) program which turns your computer into a recording studio. It's also not bad as a MIDI sequencer and notator. Cheers, |
Subject: RE: Lonesome boatman From: alison Date: 22 Apr 98 - 07:39 AM Hi Harald, I just put on the CD and played the tune on the piano into Musicator. Helen I'll bring you a copy to St Albans. Slainte alison |
Subject: RE: Lonesome boatman From: Harald Date: 21 Apr 98 - 08:07 PM Hi Alison, well done ! How did you do that so fast ? Great ! I was curious to see if I already knew that tune, the title didn´t mean much to me. Problem was, first I tried with ABC2WIN, it didn´t work, he didn´t like notes longer than 4/4, you used much of them. I have no soundcard here so midi was of little use, but in the end I downloaded a midi-player that first draws notes on the screen. I heard nothing but was able to play it off the screen (Fortunately I have my mandolin with me today..). Must have looked a little bit funny, ´cause I´m at work here. Well...:-) But at last I recognized the tune after some measures. Good job, Alison ! |
Subject: RE: Lonesome boatman From: Helen Date: 21 Apr 98 - 07:38 PM Alison, Thanks, but i'm a bit worried now about where people stick their twiddly bits. Sounds potentially unhygienic to me, although probably a lot of fun. ;-> Helen P.S. This means I will have to learn how to use Alan's MIDItext program. |
Subject: Tune Add: THE LONESOME BOATMAN From: alison Date: 21 Apr 98 - 07:29 PM Hi, Here you go.... now before you say "That's not how it sounds on the CD".... I admit it's not. But the only difference is that I've left out all the ornamentation because that is a matter of personal preference (where you stick your twiddly bits and slides!). I've also left out the intro because it was ornamentation, and simplified the ending because it was twiddly bits again. Enjoy
MIDI file: LONEBOAT.MID Timebase: 480 Name: The Lonesome Boatman This program is worth the effort of learning it. To download the January 15 MIDItext 98 software and get instructions on how to use it click here ABC format: X:1
Slainte Alison |
Subject: RE: Lonesome boatman From: alison Date: 21 Apr 98 - 08:33 AM Hi, Thanks for the offers. Alan brought round the CD today so I'll work at putting it into Musicator, should appear here as midi and ABC in a few days. Slainte Alison |
Subject: RE: Lonesome boatman From: Helen Date: 20 Apr 98 - 09:07 PM Carl, I can get out of this one very easily - I know nothing whatsoever about putting tunes into ABC .... I don't think I have the capability to get the track off the CD and into the computer into midi format - but I'm open to suggestions - I do have a CD-ROM drive on the computer. Helen |
Subject: RE: Lonesome boatman From: BAZ Date: 20 Apr 98 - 05:23 PM It's in the Furey's Song book I'll see if I can put it into ABC but it don't look easy! Regards Baz |
Subject: RE: Lonesome boatman From: Carl Date: 20 Apr 98 - 02:48 PM Great! So next thing you both do is putting it into ABC and post it here ...? *smile* |
Subject: RE: Lonesome boatman From: Helen Date: 20 Apr 98 - 04:33 AM Hi Alison I've got this on a CD called The Fureys Finest - which was one of those fairly low priced CD's (rather than the usual full slug of almost $30). It's a truly lovely piece of music and well worth learning to play. A local Irish band in Newcastle has a band member who plays it on one of those really big, mellow whistles that he brought out here with him from Ireland, I think. I'll probably see you this weekend so I'll bring a cassette of it for you to listen to. Helen |
Subject: Lonesome boatman From: alison Date: 20 Apr 98 - 02:35 AM Hi, Has anyone got the music for this one? It could be "The lonesome boatman", or possibly "the lonely boatman". Apparently it's on a Furey's CD. My tin whistle students want to play it, and I've never heard of it... Thanks Slainte Alison |
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