MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: Amos
Date: 21 May 02 - 06:16 PM

ROTFLMAO, Sorch; okay, okay, your knots are safe with me!!! LOL!!

A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: Tweed
Date: 21 May 02 - 06:23 PM

How about stopping the incoming cd's at 75 entrys, making a three disc trilogy set and then taking advance orders and payment for them? This could perhaps offset the initial production costs and at least get them made as well as get an idea of how many to make this time out. Just a thought but could work. Max has enormous advertising capabilities on this site and many of us out here have small sites running and the word could be gotten out that way beyond the Cafe.

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: GUEST
Date: 21 May 02 - 06:37 PM

Tweed, So what your suggesting is:

"Oh Yeah! Oh Yeah!" "Come and get your Mudcat CD set!" "Unknown amateur musicians!" "Oh Yeah" "Pay now, maybe get it later" "Oh Yeah"

Hardly going to work, is it?

Quite where you get the idea that Max has "enormous advertising capabilities" is beyond me, too.

The market for a Mudcat CD is (at most) the couple of hundred people who regularly come here. That's about it.

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: Tweed
Date: 21 May 02 - 07:23 PM

I don't think Max or anybody else here is countin' on making a bundle off of this venture, GUEST PESSIMIST. To my own cashew sized brain it seems mainly for the folks who frequent the place and would like to hear what the others are playing. I'm pretty sure that Amos doesn't expect to top the sales of "O Brother Where Art Thou" with this venture. If there's 300 members then make enough cd's to cover 150 the first time around then see what happens. Prepayment would work here as this ain't the real world.

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: Amos
Date: 21 May 02 - 08:04 PM

Let me add one thought here, guys. THis project is not about "better" or "slicker" than anyone else. It is about the hundreds of real voices behind the letters on your monitor. It's not about "slick", it is about "real".

So don't lemme hear any self-abnegation coming from anyone, hear me? Anyone on the list qualifies in spades by this criteria.

When we solve the mechanics we'll see what goes where.

Bear in mind as well: ordering from MP3 is kinda like ordering from Amazon -- you place the order, t hey ship a real genuine plastic silvery CD!! :>) It isn't "download your choices" although they also offer that route.

Very best regards,

Amos A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: Midchuck
Date: 21 May 02 - 08:52 PM

On the Flatpick-L list, where I spend my time when I'm not here (Real world? Hasn't it gone away yet?), we've done an annual collection of members' output ("Plectrology") for several years. The first one was two cassettes; the most recent, no. VI, was 6 CDs, in three double jewel cases. AFIK, they've always broken even on production and manufacturing costs, not counting the labor contributed by the members who put them together. Of course, the musical tastes of the membership over there are more uniform, so a large proportion of the members buy at least one set. Some buy more than one, and give them as gifts to friends who really never wanted to hear that much guitar music.

Peter.

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: Art Thieme
Date: 21 May 02 - 08:57 PM

Amos,
The track I'd prefer you use is "Chicagotown Blues" --- one of three songs I've written that I ever bothered to learn. What did I send you--six songs? I don't even remember-------except one was "The Scottish Soldier" with the 5-string. Whatever. I'm anxious to hear what comes o' this.

Art

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: Amos
Date: 21 May 02 - 09:05 PM

Art:

Ya got it!! I'll use that one for sure -- yes, i think there were six on the tape. I might use two!! (I refuse to be constrained by the phsyical universe limts of CDs! :>))

Thanks so much!

A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: hesperis
Date: 21 May 02 - 11:53 PM

Well, if we have that much material, then going on mp3.com might be worth it.

Normally I'd advise against mp3.com because of it's corporate policies, BUT... that much material, and the mudcat CD could get a pro membership, and probably get paid some from listens as well as from people buying the CD. I have a few mp3.com radio stations (sadly neglected), and so do other catters (not so neglected!).

However, if we put stuff on mp3.com they will require permission from the artists to use all the tracks, since it's recorded by various people. So we'd need to talk to them about that before uploading anything.

And some people haven't been paid by mp3.com if they get "too" popular (as defined by mp3.com). Though that's not likely to happen with folk! lol!

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: Amos
Date: 22 May 02 - 01:02 AM

Good points, Hesperis!!

The exciting news of the evening is that we are going to have Sandy Paton AND Margaret MacArthur on the CD as well as Rick Fielding and maybe kytrad to boot!! Tell ya what -- this may end up drawing more interest than we reckoned! Ya never knows, Olive -- wouldn't it be a hoot if it ended up making a stir??? LOL! Great oaks from little emails grow, I guess! :>)

Onward, gang!! Gates are still open, and the end of the collection phase is drawing nigh!!

Sing it out, wrap it up, and ship it!!

Thanks again!

A

Subject: RE: MUDCAT CD V: Gems in the Hourglass....
From: Amos
Date: 24 May 02 - 05:56 PM

The continuation of this great thread can be found over here. Keep them rolling!

A