BS: How did you discover Mudcat?

Subject: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: GUEST
Date: 24 May 02 - 07:43 PM

Just curious to know

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: Mark Ross
Date: 24 May 02 - 08:03 PM

From my old friend Bruce Brackney the Bard of B.C.AKA HAYWIRE BRACK who found the words to the HOBOES GRAND CONVENTION in the database.

Mark Ross

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: Irish sergeant
Date: 24 May 02 - 08:06 PM

Surfing the net looking for lyrics to Civil War songs and the asite came up during a search. Damned near the best search on this thing! Certainly my favorite site. kindest regards, neil

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 24 May 02 - 08:07 PM

Came to find a song, noticed a thread that looked interesting, read it, promptly registered, so as to have a name to attach to anything I wish to say.

I feel that is the least I owe to other Mudcatters, and to the people who do the work and provide the Mudcat for us to use.

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: Anahootz
Date: 24 May 02 - 08:09 PM

I looked behind the couch one day, and it was sitting there with 3 pennies, an old stick of gum, and a National Geographic map of southeastern Uzbekistan.

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: Amergin
Date: 24 May 02 - 08:10 PM

looking for lyrics...when I had to go to the library to get online....

then got online in 2000 and started reading the threads...and joined up....

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 24 May 02 - 08:18 PM

I'd probably used the dt before but for Mudcat, it was "word of mouth other music groups". It was actually a 2 step process for me. The first time, I'd managed to help SingsIrish/Mary with a couple of song/chord/tune requests which I think got posted to umf and I got a note via email saying thanks. Somewhere within the short correspondance that followed, I learned about the Mudcat forum and came over for a look. I didn't stay long as I was put off by so many threads with "BS" in the title and perhaps my general feeling toward the place was that it could be "cliquey".

I ended up back here maybe a month after. I can't remember the reason for the email correspondence but I had some with Jeri as a result of discussing music in rmc. Again Mudcat was reccomended and this time round, I decided to put my initial feelings about the site aside and try to stick around.

It's been an interesting journey to me from there on. One perhaps where I have almost gone full circle although overall, I do see genine attempts at a community rather than my initial feelings.

Jon

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: CarolC
Date: 24 May 02 - 08:20 PM

My baby sister, Celtic Soul's group had a link to the Mudcat on their website. In July of 2000, I was looking for a source of European circus music, and she showed me how to get into the Mudcat and how to use it.

She didn't join until a year later.

(muahahahaaa.... )

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: MMario
Date: 24 May 02 - 08:27 PM

But aren't you glad she lurked prior to that?

I first came looking for lyrics - Back when the DT was hosted at Xerox - "lost" it for a while, then found it again (now the Mudcat) because I KNEW I had found those lyrics on the web...somewhere...and kept trying until I found them again.

lurked in the forum a bit and then joined because there was just to much good stuff here.

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: CarolC
Date: 24 May 02 - 08:31 PM

You bet MMario. And I'm still glad you were the first person who answered my request.

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: GUEST,Lyle
Date: 24 May 02 - 08:37 PM

First found the lyrics for many of the songs at the University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee way back when it was an FTP site. Lost it for a while, found it somewhere that I can't remember, lost that, found it again at Xerox, lost that for a while, then found it again as Mudcat. So don't try to get away from me, Mudcat, I'll find you again!

Lyle

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: Nancy King
Date: 24 May 02 - 08:53 PM

Word of mouth from my many good friends in the Folklore Society of Greater Washington.

Cheers, Nancy

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 24 May 02 - 08:55 PM

"karen k" sent me an e-pistle to alert me to a thread that was discussing Folk-Legacy Records, an outfit with which I have long been associated. She thought I might be a bit interested. I've been checking in quite regularly ever since. I don't mind the BS threads. If a title looks to be of interest, I check it out. Otherwise, I just slide over 'em. No trouble.

Sandy

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 24 May 02 - 09:08 PM

Bob Bolton constantly talks about it & I gave him info on a song written by a friend that a Catter wanted - back in 2000. Then I went on line july last year & joined after 2 posts as guest Sandra. I have printed out a number of songs, & lots of threads - songs, jokes & serious stuff.

I never miss a night, except when I'm at a festival.

Sandra (who now constantly talks about Mudcat to all & sundry)

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: catspaw49
Date: 24 May 02 - 09:10 PM

Like most everyone, I was looking for lyrics and found the forum. I lurked around for awhile and then joined back in '98. 16,000 posts later and much to the chagrin of many....I'm still here.

Folk-Legacy? It seems I've heard of that outfit somewhere or another Mr. Paton. Do they pay you well?

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 24 May 02 - 09:21 PM

As the feller said: "Not hardly!" Thank Whomever for Social Security.

Sandy

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: Ebbie
Date: 24 May 02 - 09:32 PM

I used Digitrad for several years until it disappeared. A year or so later a friend told me that it's back, under a different umbrella and gave me the address. I still didn't tumble to the Forum part for quite awhile. I was afraid it was just a chat room- and I had never done that.

Well finally one day I opened the Forum and read a few threads, getting more and more interested over the next few weeks. Then one day, in connection with the 2000 projected fiasco, there was a thread, saying: Pacific Coast, Hawaii and Alaska, Check in, or something to that effect, and that's when I outed myself. :)

Since then, I mention Mudcat to EVERYBODY- but to my knowledge few of them have ever checked it out. I guess I don't belong in Sales.

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: katlaughing
Date: 24 May 02 - 09:40 PM

Looking for lyrics for my dad, about the sametime Spaw, Big Mick, Rick Fielding and a few others came along. Jumped right in with both feet and haven't looked back since.:-)

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: kendall
Date: 24 May 02 - 09:52 PM

Sandy, you know who to thank for social security; THE DEMOCRATS.

A friend told me about mudcat, I checked it out about three years ago, and, I'm still here. I'll be here as long as Doug needs me. hehehe

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: catspaw49
Date: 24 May 02 - 09:54 PM

Kendall, could I get the name and address and a description of your friend?

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: DonD
Date: 24 May 02 - 10:02 PM

I bless a local librarian; I sheepishly askes where they stored all the old LP's because I wanted to trace a lyric from decades back. She said, "What song?". turned to her computer and in seconds handed me a printout with theMudcat logo on yop.

I passed it along, forgot about for a while, then remembered the odd name and searched again. After learning more than I ever wanted to know about small earth-moving equipment, i finally figured out the difference between .com and .org, and here I am.

Now if I could only learn to touch-type -- and remember that the 'tab' key doesn't work in the mesage box ....

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: Lyrical Lady
Date: 24 May 02 - 10:25 PM

The incredible Mr. Paul Evenden, aka "Musicman" "brung" me here almost 2yrs. ago... been grateful ever since! Whadda guy!

LL

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: Peter Kasin
Date: 24 May 02 - 10:42 PM

P.J. and Dave Swan introduced me to the Mudcat. About a month or so after joining, a small Mudcat party was held at P.J. and Dave's, in honor of WyoWoman, who was visiting her daughter in the bay area. See the events section for the group photo.

chanteyranger

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: mmm1a
Date: 24 May 02 - 10:55 PM

I was searching for the correct words to a song off of Bob Dylans first album and found them here. I check back in now almost everydaynad always find something interesting to read. I don't post that much cause well frankly I am in awe if the knowledge here :) mmm

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: rich-joy
Date: 24 May 02 - 10:59 PM

from the wondrous STEWIE !!!
Of course, it took me quite a while of just using the DT, with occasional forays into the 'Cat, before I had the "courage" to post anything, and THEN to finally join the Mudcat as a Member ...
Cheers! R-J

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: DancingMom
Date: 24 May 02 - 11:02 PM

Doing a broad internet search for lyrics to some British folk piece by Steeleye or Fairport or somebody. Lo and behold, there you were. Very interesting people here. So I hung around. Sharon

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: Ian Darby
Date: 24 May 02 - 11:24 PM

First of all, I was looking for music in the public domain that I could record arrangements of for use in amusement machines, and on fairground rides.

I didn't understand the thread thing and completely ignored it.

Then John J told me to have a wander about the place, (bless him), I posted a couple of threads, received a lot of help, and some (deserved) abuse.

I'm still here and I can't think of another place where you can get advice on nits, cats, illness, relationships, pagan chants, cleaning glass, and music.

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: Deda
Date: 24 May 02 - 11:39 PM

Big bro' Amos tole me about it. Also a local friend who has a weekly folk music show called "Highway 322" on Boulder's indy public radio station -- he'd mentioned the DT to me. (Well, he started it as a weekly show years ago but he only does it himself once a month now.)

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 25 May 02 - 12:14 AM

Deckman (Bob Nelson) emailed a couple of years back to tell me about this place, and that there was a thread discussing my dad (John Dwyer) who was a folksinger in the Pacific Northwest until his death in 1997. This site has been great for remembering songs I thought I had forgotten, and as I get ready to start burning CD's from Dad's tapes and organizing his collection for donation to a university library, I'm sure Mudcat will be an invaluable resource.

Maggie

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: Max
Date: 25 May 02 - 12:29 AM

I tried LSD for the first time, woke up with my face stuck to my keyboard, and there it was.

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 25 May 02 - 12:43 AM

Same as Max, only it was Tequila.

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: Devilmaster
Date: 25 May 02 - 12:52 AM

Clinton Hammond dragged me in.

If he reads this, he'll try to deny, saying I went of my own valition, but he knows the truth. :)

Steve

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: Escamillo
Date: 25 May 02 - 03:46 AM

Looking for lyrics I found a link somewhere, in 1999. Since then I learnt a lot and enjoyed the friendship of many people to whom I'm very grateful. I do spread the word wherever I can.

Un abrazo - Andrés (in Buenos Aires)

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: Hrothgar
Date: 25 May 02 - 04:18 AM

Got lost looking for lyrics, and haven't made it out of the quicksand......

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 25 May 02 - 04:18 AM

Followed a link on Dick Gaughan's web page, and took an instant shine to the place. Got told to f**k off by an anonymous guest last week, so now I feel that I belong. Failte.....Giok

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: gnu
Date: 25 May 02 - 04:41 AM

I used only the Digitrad for a couple of years, avoiding the Forum because I knew nothing about it and figured it was one those "chat rooms", which I had never been in. The occasion came up that I couldn't find what I was looking for and I posted a request for help in the forum. The knowledge and generosity was overwhelming, so I began to explore the threads and I continue to visit for the knowledge and the company of such wonderful folk.

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: DMcG
Date: 25 May 02 - 11:03 AM

I was searching through ABC collections and found a link. Mudcat does not seem to be on the abc home page itself though. (No, please don't start a flame war about this - its just an observation and I have emailed Chris Walshaw anyway)

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: fat B****rd
Date: 25 May 02 - 11:18 AM

I was checking out Leadbelly sites and was referred to the'Cat. Simple as that. Been here ever since.

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: Celtic Soul
Date: 25 May 02 - 02:32 PM

As so many have said above, I was searching the internet for music. In my case, I was specifically looking for nautical music and sea shanties. I found not only this one, but another that is a veritable wealth of info, some of which is not found here (and vice versa).

I also found at relatively the same time that our web mistress had a link for it at our website. I have used the digitrad for *years* before actually coming in here to post.

If anyone is interested, I'll start another thread and post the URL to the other site.

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 25 May 02 - 03:54 PM

It happened one afternoon in Tennessee. I was talking to a man who said he had once jammed with Blind Lemon Jefferson. He had a patch on one eye and kept rhyming in Italian between disjointed statements about the Blues. Just when I thought we were getting to the crux of the matter, along comes this other guy who says he needs me to negotiate his "connection". I have no idea what connection he is referring to and am somewhat suspicious, but it's Tuesday, so I decide to go along and see what happens.

We walk down what must be 20 or so different streets, passing shops that sell Bill Clinton masks, lingerie, out-of-print recordings, and back copies of the Readers Digest. I realize I am becoming famished, and we stop for a hot dog.

Just then I am kidnapped by a band of roving gypsies (so they say, anyway) who hold me for ransom. They want 30 million dollars from someone, anyone...

I tell them it ain't gonna work. I am just not that famous. They threaten to cut my fingernails if I don't cooperate. I say "I am cooperating! I have not reverted to Catholicism once yet today, and I think you should appreciate it." They stare at me blankly, and keep dialing numbers, looking for someone with 30 million.

It turns out that no one is willing to pay 30 million or even 30,000. Matter of fact, no one is willing to pay much of anything at all. (Fortunately these gypsies do not have the number of any of the people who actually realize my true worth...)

I play a few songs, and eventually they decide to just call the whole thing off...they have obviously got the wrong guy. We all hop a train to Albuquerque where there are some very neat Indian Medicine people and stuff like that. A spiritual tune-up could be just what these guys need....

I lose the gang somewhere in Albuquerque the next day at a powwow, and am chanting Om nama shivaya in a nice shady spot, when the payphone rings. I answer it. It's my old friend, CarolC. She informs me that if I ever should feel the need for some harmless diversion I should log onto Mudcat.

"What's Mudcat?" I ask. "Is she an exotic dancer or something?" Carol explains further. "Oh. The internet. Well, okay, thanks..."

That pretty well sums it up.

But how did she get the payphone number?

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: RolyH
Date: 25 May 02 - 04:39 PM

I was searching the net for a recipie for 'Baked Cats in Mud' and restaurants that sold it, and came up with this. Still prefer Hedgehogs.

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: CarolC
Date: 25 May 02 - 05:39 PM

Yeah. Those were the days, eh LH?

(P.S. The dwarf gave it to me.)

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: Bill D
Date: 25 May 02 - 05:42 PM

Dick Greenhaus, his very own self, enlightened me (a couple months AFTER the fact) that they had found a site to replace Xerox for the DT database. I actually posted to the forum about month 4 or so. (Early Spring of '96?)

who remembers the OLD Mudcat page with the links to literature and language?..(not you, Max, all that LSD and we wouldn't expect you to remember..*grin*)

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: curmudgeon
Date: 25 May 02 - 08:17 PM

Blame Jeri. She indoctrinated Bat Goddess who in turn led me astray.

BTW, Linn is away for a couple of weeks. Therefore I must endeavour to post more in her absence

Thanks Jeri -- Tom

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 26 May 02 - 01:02 AM

The forum started 1 October, 1996, but Bill D lives in a different time warp. I had used the Digital Tradition since about 1992 and I had used the Xerox site, and then it disappeared. I got my "fix" of music discussion at alt.music.lyrics and then rec.music.folk, but I got tired of the flames and the Spam and the singer-songwriters. I discovered Mudcat in January, 1997, probably because somebody mentioned it at rec.music.folk.
Hey, has anybody noticed http://www.mudcatblues.com? I wonder how they get my mouse to act that way....
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: GUEST,Ed
Date: 26 May 02 - 02:19 PM

Joe,

If you mean the gold notes following your mouse around, it's a pretty simple javascript.

I can point you towards a site with the code, if you are interested.

Oh yes, looking for lyrics too :-)

Ed

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: Bill D
Date: 26 May 02 - 05:15 PM

"but Bill D lives in a different time warp."

...how time flies when you're having fun.

I guess I was thinking Mudcat happened about the same time I went online, but of course, it was a year later... ah, them halycon days of yore!

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: kendall
Date: 26 May 02 - 07:12 PM

My friend who led me here, is a mudcatter who calls hinself "Jets". Spaw, I'm certain he is not your type.

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: Melani
Date: 27 May 02 - 12:15 AM

My family, who are all more dedicated net surfers than I, pointed it out to me.

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: GUEST,ozmacca
Date: 27 May 02 - 12:25 AM

Never mind how people get in..... HOW DO YOU GET OUT AGAIN??????? I was looking for lyrics, a friend suggested the Mudcat. I looked, I saw, I was hooked........

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: Ironmule
Date: 27 May 02 - 12:38 AM

WesleyS, my Brother, told me about it. It's been near the top of my of my favorites' list ever since. Jeff Smith

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: GUEST,cookieless vectis
Date: 27 May 02 - 07:56 AM

Looking for a song like most people I guess.

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: GUEST
Date: 27 May 02 - 10:53 AM

I did a Google search for "forum most likely to keep responding to trolls" and Mudcat was the top response. I've been here ever since annoying the resident duffers.

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: CapriUni
Date: 27 May 02 - 11:29 AM

I'm sure I found the DT throught a search engine looking for the lyrics to a song (Forget which song, though) used only the DT for about a year or more (intimidated by all the choices, I guess)... then scrolled down to see what sort of stuff was in the lower half of the page.

Found a BS thread for a recipe for Kaluha Chocolate Chip cookies, and said to myself: "Damn! These are folks I want to hang out with!"

And I haven't left, since...

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: Guessed
Date: 27 May 02 - 11:40 AM

Guest any relation?
Me? Guessed work.

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 27 May 02 - 11:54 AM

GUEST - LOL!

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: GUEST,Janie
Date: 27 May 02 - 12:42 PM

Dani coerced me (bless her!) into going to last year's Getaway. She had talked about the usefulness of this site for awhile but I just hadn't checked it out. After meeting the Catter's that were at the Getaway I logged on and then joined. I mostly research and lurk.

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: Mr Red
Date: 27 May 02 - 05:30 PM

Looking for the DT.
DT - I was given disks long before I was netified.

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: Tig
Date: 28 May 02 - 05:20 PM

I was bullied by a certain Bill\Sables at a Jug session BEFORE I EVEN OWNED A COMPUTER!!!

Obviously I joined when I got one and since then (to my shame) have recruited many more members.....

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: Gloredhel
Date: 28 May 02 - 05:59 PM

I was in a singing class at Irish Arts Week (E. Durham, Ny) last summer, and happened to notice from where our instructor had printed out the lyrics to the song she was teaching. Checked it out when I got home, posted once as a guest, then decided to hang around.

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: Cappuccino
Date: 28 May 02 - 06:53 PM

I found the link on Judy Collins' website - I thought if she liked it, that was good enough for me!

- Ian B

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: GUEST,53
Date: 28 May 02 - 09:14 PM

My wife came across it first about 1 year or so ago and I've been talking on it ever since. Bob

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 29 May 02 - 09:13 PM

looking for lyrics (fiddlers green)

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: Art Thieme
Date: 31 May 02 - 08:39 PM

I was at a folk fest in Central Illinois and went looking for an outhouse. I found it. The powers that be there a that good festival had built it over an abandoned coal mine 'cause they were tired of cleaning the old one's innards by shoveling. My aunt Nancy went in there and after an hour we went in to check on her. We found her sitting there dead, apparently asphyxiated. My uncle told me he knew what had gone wrong. It seems Aunt Nancy used to hold her breath until she heard the "splash". As I exited that outhouse, I looked up---and there was Mudcat.

Art Thieme

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: Dorrie
Date: 31 May 02 - 08:46 PM

i discovered mudcat through ian stephenson and sam pirts tshirts d xxx

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: Genie
Date: 01 Jun 02 - 12:13 AM

A friend (another guitarist-folkie) referred me here for the DT when I was looking for song lyrics last summer. Once I found the site, I was hooked.

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Jun 02 - 05:09 PM

That is an excellent story, Art, and totally believable. I'm glad there is someone else on this forum who is not afraid to state the real Truth about how he discovered Mudcat Cafe...

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: GUEST,Julie B at home
Date: 02 Jun 02 - 02:40 AM

Steve Parkes (long-time Mudcatter) told me about it...and kept telling me about it until I started using it! (I'm glad he did :-)
JUlie B

Subject: RE: BS: How did you discover Mudcat?
From: Dani
Date: 02 Jun 02 - 09:44 PM

I wish I could remember how I discovered the Mudcat. Looking back, it seems I first posted (and MISposted!) in February of '97. Hard to believe!

Though I don't remember how I found it, I do remember my husband telling me how cool the Internet was, and how if I'd just try it, I'd see. Didn't imagine there was anything out there to interest me ; )

So now, I'm as plugged in, hooked up, and wired as they come! And have treasured this community and this resource for over five years!

Dani