Where is Spancil Hill?

Subject: RE: Where is Spancil Hill?
From: GUEST,MartinRyan lost in Glasgow...
Date: 07 Sep 15 - 04:58 PM

Which version? All three in common circulation are definitelt Irish in origin - and all derive from the original poem.

Beir bua.

Regards

Subject: RE: Where is Spancil Hill?
From: GUEST,Desi C
Date: 07 Sep 15 - 07:33 PM

It isn't there, but then I am an Atheist

Subject: RE: Where is Spancil Hill?
From: GUEST,Frank McGrath
Date: 22 Jun 18 - 10:35 PM

And twenty years passes so quickly.

http://leftbucket.com/it-being-on-the-twenty-third-of-june-spancilhill-is-a-true-and-tragic-story/

https://youtu.be/UAQNiLnHAUY

I still love "Spancilhill"

Subject: RE: Where is Spancil Hill?
From: GUEST,Phil d'Conch
Date: 23 Jun 18 - 05:32 AM

There used to be a Clare Co.gov site that had most of the Considine family detail but I can't find it now. Working from crappy older discography and genealogy notes:

Nephew: John Considine (1875-1956)(age 80-81,) Kilraghtis Burial Ground, Ennis, County Clare, Ireland.

It came to John from his mother, Catherine “Kate” O'Connell Considine, who had kept it for him since his father, Patrick Considine, died when John was just an infant. They had never left the old country.

Patrick Considine (1846 or 1850-1876,) also in Kilraghtis, was the son of Peter and Mary R. Considine and brother of Michael Considine, born 11th August 1850, Castletown, just south of “Spancel Hill.”

There was some confusion about “Moira Keane” and John's wife “Mary K.” Considine being one and the same person that brought them all together but... dunno now. Mary K. passed in 1960.

You can find everyone but the poet on your favorite graveyard search engine today but not a stitch of folk history to go with. Afaik, Michael Considine's final dates & resting place are still unknown.

Subject: RE: Where is Spancil Hill?
From: Bill D
Date: 23 Jul 24 - 06:00 PM

Just found this:
a poem and images https://singersongblog.me/tag/cross-of-spancil-hill/

Subject: RE: Where is Spancil Hill?
From: GUEST,Peter Laban
Date: 24 Jul 24 - 04:23 AM

Re Phil d'Conch's 2018 post: the clarelibrary.ie site may be what you were looking for

See also:

Michael Considine, Spancil hill

Subject: RE: Where is Spancil Hill?
From: GUEST,Phil d'Conch
Date: 24 Jul 24 - 03:44 PM

Looks like its also picked up a wiki page since my last post: Spancil Hill

Considine worked in Boston for two years or so before moving to California. In failing health, he wrote the poem in memory of the hometown he would not live to see again, and posted it to his young nephew in Ireland.[10] Michael Considine died in California in 1873 at the age of twenty-three. [wiki]

My browser settings/add-ons, the Clare Library and about half the wiki source pages won't play nice but seems the only difference is how many hands the poem passed through before finally coming to the nephew John.

Mailed to Ireland c.1870-1873 after Micheal’s move to California and before brother Patrick was married (1875) and son/nephew John was born (abt: November, 1875.) Michael passed c.1873(?) and Patrick passed just three years after in 1876 when John was about two years old and still much too young to read.

Caveat: No hard North American sources that I could locate this new go 'round either. No clue where those Boston/California dates for Micheal come from.(?)