Subject: What Magazines do you read? From: English Jon Date: 06 Jun 02 - 07:28 AM Having read through the "Folk Mafia" Thread, it seems that a lot of "breaking into the establishment" is down to advertising. "I book people I've heard of", so where is the best place to advertise? What music magazines do mudcatters read? Promotors/club organisers - Where do you look when deciding who to book for next season? Any thoughts? Cheers, Jon |
Subject: RE: What Magazines do you read? From: KingBrilliant Date: 06 Jun 02 - 08:16 AM Folk On Tap is a very good mag for UK Southern Counties area. |
Subject: RE: What Magazines do you read? From: English Jon Date: 06 Jun 02 - 09:28 AM Think I've seen a copy - something akin to Unicorn in east midlands? EJ |
Subject: RE: What Magazines do you read? From: GUEST Date: 06 Jun 02 - 09:30 AM I used to get Q every month until there was a piece about The Corrs: "Shock! A good Folk Group!" Haven't picked it up since |
Subject: RE: What Magazines do you read? From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 06 Jun 02 - 09:37 AM Mudcat |
Subject: RE: What Magazines do you read? From: greg stephens Date: 06 Jun 02 - 09:47 AM Folk Buzz is the best. they printed an article about me once. |
Subject: RE: What Magazines do you read? From: GUEST Date: 06 Jun 02 - 09:51 AM McGrath, Would that be the magazine "dedicated to Folk and Blues?" Can you tell me where to find it, please? |
Subject: RE: What Magazines do you read? From: Mooh Date: 06 Jun 02 - 10:33 AM Dirty Linen, fRoots, Acoustic Guitar, Sing Out, various websites....Mooh. |
Subject: RE: What Magazines do you read? From: MMario Date: 06 Jun 02 - 10:47 AM Guest - click on the link for e-Muzine at the top of the forum page. |
Subject: RE: What Magazines do you read? From: GUEST Date: 06 Jun 02 - 10:55 AM Fair point, Mmario, but 'magazines' tend to be available on a regular periodic basis. The 'e-Muzine' hasn't had a new edition for three years |
Subject: RE: What Magazines do you read? From: English Jon Date: 06 Jun 02 - 10:56 AM Cancel my hypothetical subscription to Q. The corrs are f***ing rubbish!!! Cheers, EJ |
Subject: RE: What Magazines do you read? From: 53 Date: 06 Jun 02 - 11:00 AM Wood and Steel by Taylor, Sometimes the Peavey catalog and I think thats about it unless I see a special one about music then I'll pick that one up and read that one. |
Subject: RE: What Magazines do you read? From: 53 Date: 06 Jun 02 - 11:02 AM What a dummy I am, I forgot to mention Musicians Friend and the Ederly Catalog both of those are great mags. Sometime I get a copy of the Stewart Macdonald catalogue and I' ll browse thru that one but that's usually way over my head. |
Subject: RE: What Magazines do you read? From: GUEST Date: 06 Jun 02 - 11:06 AM 53, i don't think that anyone with even a rudimentary intelligence would consider a 'catalog' as being the same as a 'magazine' |
Subject: RE: What Magazines do you read? From: Watson Date: 06 Jun 02 - 11:37 AM Living Tradition |
Subject: RE: What Magazines do you read? From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 06 Jun 02 - 02:48 PM I don't think seeing an advert in a magazine is what people have in mind when they say things like "I book people I've heard of". The point of advertising would be to provide a reminder and contact details, for those who have heard of you in some other way. |
Subject: RE: What Magazines do you read? From: GUEST Date: 06 Jun 02 - 02:52 PM Oh dear, McGrath... Your last post is so off the mark that I see no sense in responding. Do go to your doctor to check up on demetia though |
Subject: RE: What Magazines do you read? From: Amergin Date: 06 Jun 02 - 03:34 PM mad.... |
Subject: RE: What Magazines do you read? From: GUEST Date: 06 Jun 02 - 03:47 PM I know Amergin, Mcgrath used to be quite sane It's sad to watch the decline |
Subject: RE: What Magazines do you read? From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 06 Jun 02 - 04:40 PM Anybody ever book a stranger just on the basis of an advert? |
Subject: RE: What Magazines do you read? From: Mr Red Date: 06 Jun 02 - 06:08 PM Dandy, Beano and the New Scientist. tick one only. |
Subject: RE: What Magazines do you read? From: GUEST,ozmacca Date: 06 Jun 02 - 09:18 PM Folk Rag. Excellent mag, and especially if you happen to live around the South East corner of Queensland. Available on-line free at http://homepage.powerup.com.au/~dnichols/folkbris.htm |
Subject: RE: What Magazines do you read? From: English Jon Date: 07 Jun 02 - 09:29 AM "Anybody ever book a stranger just on the basis of an advert?" Now that's a key question. Does there come a point when enough advertising has been done when a musician automatically becomes "established" - for instance, I've still never seen Vin Garbutt, who everyone says is brilliant, but if I hadn't seen his name on so many bits of paper I doubt his name would have stuck in my head. (missed him at ely folk club the other day, which was a shame - didn't see the ad in time!!!) So, imagine I advertise furiously, how long does it take to break into the public consciousness? People like Bill Jones seem to come out of nowhere from time to time, three months of frantic publicity and suddenly, household name status!!? I dunno... Cheers, EJ |
Subject: RE: What Magazines do you read? From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 07 Jun 02 - 10:12 AM Yes, Vin Garbutt is brilliant. I suppose I might have seen his name in a paid advert some time, but I can't call it to mind. I'd never heard of him before I heard him, which I think is the best way.
Other than that, word of mouth is what does it, and I suppose reviews as well. Adverts make it easier to chase up someone who might be worth chasing up on the basis of word of mouth and reviews.
As for the Bill Jones's, I imagine there's a good agent in there somewhere who's got the ear of the people who do the bookings at big festivals and so forth. (Which is a variant on word of mouth.) |
Subject: RE: What Magazines do you read? From: Stephen L. Rich Date: 07 Jun 02 - 10:19 AM Read? Read? Now, we're expected to be able to read? What is this world coming to? |
Subject: RE: What Magazines do you read? From: GUEST,mg Date: 07 Jun 02 - 12:17 PM I love singout..my other favorites in general are home decorating, etc...I love Simple Living and Dwell and Good Housekeeping..all the "women's" magazines..I love investment magazines, which is wishful thinking right now...travelNationl Geographics...Mother Earth News...baby magazines...Coastal Living...mg |
Subject: RE: What Magazines do you read? From: Kim C Date: 07 Jun 02 - 04:27 PM Fiddler. Fitness. Bead & Button. Prevention. Renaissance. German magazines when I can get 'em. Smoke & Fire News, although that's really more of a newspaper. |
Subject: RE: What Magazines do you read? From: open mike Date: 07 Jun 02 - 05:31 PM Sing Out!, Dirty Linen, Acoustic Guitar. kim- hat is smoke & fire? i'm a fire fighter and fire mags i know of are fire house, wild land fire, and the women's mag Fire Work.... |
Subject: RE: What Magazines do you read? From: Ian Darby Date: 07 Jun 02 - 09:54 PM 'Mojo' magazine is certainly worth a look, although mainly aimed at old dogs like meself. |
Subject: RE: What Magazines do you read? From: Gervase Date: 13 Jun 02 - 06:08 AM Dunno about Vin Garbutt, but there's some bloke called Jon Loomes who's not arf bad and should be given a slot by any club/festival bookers in the S.East UK. I've heard him at Chippenham and MP3.com and was pretty impressed. Dunno about his cat, though - sounds a bit of a hooligan to me. You really should go and hear him some time, EJ! |
Subject: RE: What Magazines do you read? From: Coyote Breath Date: 13 Jun 02 - 08:08 AM Better to have a periodical which lists venues and events. Then go to those which fit yer mold. Audition. formal, with pre-audition contact or informal; sessions, open mikes (phone, drop in, etc.). I'm thinking of clubs, bars, cafes, not CONCERTS. In our area we sometimes find a place that will consider having you come to do a couple of sets or so but most of our venues are established so are the routines you go through to secure a gig. In the St. Louis area you go to "Get Out!" which lists ALL things of an entertainment nature. Then you cull through the list, find those that will give a listen to you or (better) have sessions. There ain't a lot but there never is. Used to be if you could demonstrate that you could "draw" a crowd you could get work on as regular a basis as was possible. Good luck! CB |
Subject: RE: What Magazines do you read? From: Bat Goddess Date: 13 Jun 02 - 09:50 AM I subscribe to Dirty Linen and buy Sing Out! whenever I find it. (I know, I know; I used to subscribe AND advertise in it.) I check out on-line Musical Traditions whenever I remember to fit it into my schedule. I think in a lot of cases, the most efficient advertising is to local radio folk shows. Linn |
Subject: RE: What Magazines do you read? From: Clinton Hammond Date: 13 Jun 02 - 09:53 AM The mags I read, ain't got no folk music in 'em, for the most part... .-) |
Subject: RE: What Magazines do you read? From: English Jon Date: 13 Jun 02 - 10:21 AM Loomes? Never heard of him. The cat says "hello", by the way. Also "corr" and "shit". So, word of mouth is the best advertising...Maybe I need to do what the Amway people do, and get all my mates frantically "network marketing"!!! Cheers, Jon |
Subject: RE: What Magazines do you read? From: Shonagh Date: 13 Jun 02 - 01:12 PM The living tradition. its ace! (and im in it this month!) |
Subject: RE: What Magazines do you read? From: 53 Date: 13 Jun 02 - 02:54 PM You gottat get a copy of wood and steel by Taylor Guitars. It's great. |
Subject: RE: What Magazines do you read? From: GUEST,Claire Date: 13 Jun 02 - 04:22 PM For music business stuff, I read "Gig Magazine". This magazine is totally out of the "folk, traditional" genre and that is one reason I enjoy getting it. There are articles about being in a band, sound reinforcement, singing technique, guitar chords for songs, touring clubs. Although, I sometimes don't find a lot in every issue, I am often surprised by the gems that I do find. Plus, there is something very satisfying about getting an issue of "Gig" with a wild rocker on the front at the same time I get my Science News, and my traditional mags. Claire |
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