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Lyr Req: Bull Dog, Don't Bite Me! (chantey)
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Subject: Lyr Add: BULL DOG, DON'T BITE ME From: Charley Noble Date: 14 Jun 02 - 09:48 AM Some of us who recentlyy attended the 2002 Mystic Sea Music Festival last week are still puzzling over the lyrics to "Bull Dog, Don't Bite Me!" as sung by the Barouallie Whalers of St. Vincent in the West Indies. I'll post the words that I've been able to decode from my pathetic microrecorder but I probably missed a verse or two. The order of lines varies from one presentation to another, and I haven't included the very important barking and growling: ^^ BULL DOG, DON'T BITE ME (As sung by the Barouallie Whalers of St. Vincent at Mystis Sea Music Festival 2002) Young m'n, where you get dis dog? Bull dog, don't bite me! Young m'n, where you get dis dog? Bull dog, don't bite me! Dis dog is an American dog, Bull dog, don't bite me! Dis dog is an English dog, Bull dog, don't bite me! Dis dog is a German dog, Bull dog, don't bite me! Young m'n, where you get dis dog? Bull dog, don't bite me! Dis dog is an American dog, Bull dog, don't bite me! Dis dog is an English dog, Bull dog, don't bite me! Dis dog is a German dog, Bull dog, don't bite me! Young m'n, where you get dis dog? Bull dog, don't bite me! Any further clues or clarifications would be much appreciated. Cheerily, Charley Noble
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bull Dog, Don't Bite Me! From: Mrrzy Date: 14 Jun 02 - 11:04 AM Never heard this one, or of this one. Seems about the basic tyranny of colonialism... I rather like that. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bull Dog, Don't Bite Me! From: Abby Sale Date: 14 Jun 02 - 05:46 PM Give me a few days if no one else helps. My recorder didn't seem to work that night but maybe they sang it at the symposium. I'll check. If not, then I know I have it on the Raw Tapes. (Odd that it's not in Deep the Water, most of the songs they sang were taken from there). You've certainly done an excellent job transcribing, though. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bull Dog, Don't Bite Me! From: Susan of DT Date: 14 Jun 02 - 05:53 PM Ok, I won't look in Deep the Water. It is not in Hugill, Doerflinger, or Shay either, at least not under "Bulldog" |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bull Dog, Don't Bite Me! From: Barry Finn Date: 14 Jun 02 - 10:14 PM Hi Charlie, I have it somewhere, I'll dig it up & get back to you. Barry |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bull Dog, Don't Bite Me! From: Greg B Date: 14 Jun 02 - 10:31 PM Could be about the tyranny of colonialism. Could be about getting chased around by a dog. Could be just a song. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bull Dog, Don't Bite Me! From: Susan of DT Date: 15 Jun 02 - 11:02 AM dick greenhaus here: In a Lomax/Abrahams CD of music of St. Kitts released last week by Rounder, there's a version called "Bulldog Goin' to Bite Me". I'll post the words when I get home. No colonialism, though--same tune. CAMSCO carries it (of course) |
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Subject: Lyr Add: BULL DOG, DON'T BITE ME From: Abby Sale Date: 15 Jun 02 - 01:05 PM No, I'm afraid they didn't do this one at the seminar and I did screw up the recorder at the concert (only got four songs). Also, this one is slightly different in the Raw Tape (ie. the 1968 field recordings) but the idea is clear. BULL DOG, DON'T BITE ME
Capt'n, where you get dis dog?
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bull Dog, Don't Bite Me! From: GUEST,aesop Date: 15 Jun 02 - 05:46 PM Thanks for the translation. I couldn't understand a word they sang when I heard it live, but I loved it anyway. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bull Dog, Don't Bite Me! From: Abby Sale Date: 15 Jun 02 - 06:37 PM Erp! My last verse is (obviously) a mistype of their mis sing. First line is "Capt'n, where you bring dis dog?" |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bull Dog, Don't Bite Me! From: Charley Noble Date: 16 Jun 02 - 09:08 AM Thanks, Abby, for your transcription. Listening to my tape again, the introductory words might be "Capt'n" or "Young m'n" or "George W. Bush"! ;~) Let's see what others come up with. Barry, are you still out there? Cheerily, Charley Noble (after another hard weekend of shanty singing) |
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Subject: Lyr Add: BULL DOG GOIN' BITE ME (trad. calypso) From: dick greenhaus Date: 16 Jun 02 - 05:45 PM BULL DOG GOIN' BITE ME
Auntie Nanny, come hold bull dog
From CD Caribbean Voyage--Nevis & St. Kitts (Rounder 1731) Sung by george Sweeney, Alan Prentice, Joseph Reed, Selwyn Wathey |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bull Dog, Don't Bite Me! From: Charley Noble Date: 17 Jun 02 - 08:48 AM Thanks, Dick! Barry? |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bull Dog, Don't Bite Me! From: Abby Sale Date: 17 Jun 02 - 09:31 AM Oik! Sometimes I'm slow. Sometimes slower. Where I've put "?Bar'lee" it should quite obviously be 'Barouallie.' My pronounciation is probably close - maybe a glottal "u" in the middle. I guess we heard it pronounced 20 different ways at Mystic. And then got totally confused seeing it in print. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bull Dog, Don't Bite Me! From: Barry Finn Date: 17 Jun 02 - 07:23 PM Hi Charlie, still here. Seems as of late I've only been able to drop in for a wink & a nod. I see you've got what you asked for. Another few verse's aside from the above (not that they vary much from the above, from Folklore & the Sea, Horace Beck).
Beau, Beau, Beau, is a big bulldog
No reference to any meaning of bulldog. To me if they're not refering to something of a sexual nature that they're pretty strait forward about their words. What you see (hear in this case) is what you get.
Barry |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bull Dog, Don't Bite Me! From: GUEST,Dan Lanier Date: 29 Aug 02 - 12:21 AM When Roger Abrahams recorded him, Alfred Mason sang: "this dog comes from Baliceaux" (that's an island in the Grenadines) We'll prepare a book that contains the lyrics. Dan |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bull Dog, Don't Bite Me! From: Charley Noble Date: 29 Aug 02 - 09:10 AM Thanks, Dan, for that clarification. Not surprising a version of this song, at least with a similar refrain, surfaced in the Bahamas in the 1930's and was recorded by Alan Lomax and recently re-issued on CD by Rounder as BAHAMAS 1935: Chanteys and Anthems from Andros and Cat island (part of the Deep River of Song Series);it's called "Swing Your Tail" and is described as a boat launching chantey: O swing your tail like a snapper tail, Bulldog goin' bite me, O them bulldog now barkin' at me, Bulldog goin' to bite me. Lots more verses and they're all included in the lyrics enclosed. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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Subject: Lyr Add: BULLDOGS A-BARKIN' From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 20 Dec 04 - 11:04 PM Found this in Slave Narratives, American Memory. A holler song, sung to kids?? BULLDOGS A-BARKIN' Bulldogs a-barkin', Howl! Howl! Bulldogs a-barkin', Howl! Howl! Bulldogs a-barkin', Howl! Howl! Ah - oodle - oodle - ou, (2x) Ah - ou - ah - ou, Ah - oodle - ou Ah - ou - ah - ou, Ah - oodle - - oodle - ou. 1937, from Hector Smith, ex-slave, Marion Co., SC. "I used to holler a heap in late years but after I lay it down, all dat leave me." No more information. Anyone? http://memory.loc.gov/mss/mesn/144/113109.gif |
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Subject: Lyr Add: CHICKEN IN THE BREAD TRAY From: Azizi Date: 21 Dec 04 - 12:11 AM A verse of the song "Chicken In The Bread Tray" refers to a dog biting, but not specifically to a bulldog. Here's the entire rhyme in case it's not posted on Mudcat yet: "Auntie, will yo dog bite?" - "No, Child! No!" Chicken in the bread tray A makin' up dough. "Auntie, will yo broom hit?" - " Yes, Chile!" Pop! Chicken in the bread tray; Flop! Flop! Flop!" "Auntie, will yo oven bake?"- "Yes, Jes fry!"- "What's dat chicken good fer?" "Pie! Pie! Pie!" "Auntie, is yo pie good?"- "Good as you could 'spec." Chicken in de bread tray; "Peck! Peck! Peck! Talley, "Negro Folk Rhymes", 1922 Kennikat Press edition, p. 7 |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bull Dog, Don't Bite Me! From: Azizi Date: 21 Dec 04 - 12:35 AM Okay, I'm going for a record here. I'm including in this post a examples of a {pre-Civil War?} African American secular slave song, a 1980s hip-hop song, a 1980s high school pep rally cheer, and a 2000 African American children's foot stomping cheer. First the slave song: This song doesn't mention dogs, or bulldogs at all, but does have a similar pattern at the end. I'm using "N-" instead of the "N' word. T-U-TURKEY T-u, tucky, T-u, ti. T-u, tucky, buzzard's eye/ T-u, tucky. buzzard's wing/ O' Mistah Washin'ton! Don't whoop me, Whoop dat N- back 'hind dat tree. He stole tucky, I didn' steal none. Go wuk him in de co'n field jes fer fun. Talley, Negro Folk Rhymes, Kennikat Press edition, p. 6-7 Note: I have seen this "don't whoop me lines" in other children's folk songs books from the USA. -- Because of their alleged ferocity, alot of high schools use bulldogs as their mascot/symbol. Maybe the "bulldog" in the featured song of this thread means nothing but that type of dog. One call & response cheerleading song about bull dogs from Pittsburgh's Westinghouse High School is Cheerleaders Bull dog mania Audience Bull dog mania Cheerleaders Hot and hazy Audience Hot and hazy Cheerleaders Make you crazy Audience Make you crazy Cheerleaders Bull dog mania! Audience Bull dog mania! --- In 2000 I collected a children's footstomping cheer from Braddock, PA {near Pittsburgh, PA} called "The Bulldog". That cheer basically serves as an opportunity for the group to demonstrate currently popular dances in between their performance of a pattern of bass sounding foot stomps {also called "steps"}. Although the group did the same dance {such as the "bounce", and the "pop"}, each girl added her own style {"flava"} to those dances. All Bull Dog, Ah Bull Dog Soloist #1 My name is Jasmine Group Ah Bulldog Soloist #1 They call me Jas Group Ah Bulldog Soloist #1 And I'm here to show you how to do the Bulldog Group Ah Bulldog First you roll it Control it. And you bounce it Announce it. Then you pop it. Don't stop it. Then you stop. Think. Ah ring ah ding ding {baby} {Repeat cheer with next soloist} Note: I'm unsure if there was ever a dance called "The Bulldog". The girls said that was just the name of their cheer. -- Because of their alleged ferocity, a lot of high schools use bulldogs as their mascot/symbol. Maybe the "bulldog" in the "Bull Dog, Don't Bite Me!" song means nothing but that type of dog. Nowadays, among African Americans at least, the word "dog" may be referent for a male. Even "dirty dog" can be either positive or negative referent depending on who says it and when it is said. For example, members of Omega Psi Phi Fraternity, Inc., an African American Greek letter university fraternity, call themselves and are called "Qs". However, they also call themselves "dogs". Sometimes Qs "step" wearing dog collars. This is almost certainly a reference to their {alleged}sexual skills. -- The cheer that I presented above may have it's origin in a 1980s hip-hop song by the Boogie Boys called "Sha-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na". This is the same group that made the very popular song "Fly Girls". In the Sha-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-nat song members of the Boogie Boys compare themselves to pittbulls. Here's an excerpt of that song: Sha-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na On the rap Boogie Knight's like pitbull I bite on to the beat, I don't let go By the way, RK has got pull Go Boogie Knight, go Boogie Knight, go" end of quote Later the song continues with: "All the fly girls wanna take us for a walk They like our physique and the growl as we talk Now dogs out there, listen up real clear There is no dog we fear I bite ya high on the thigh, I won't let go I bark in the dark and at the disco I dog on the rap and I make top dollar My manager gave me gold for my collar I'm on the radio, got girls, got pull My name is Boogie Knight and I'm like a pitbull Arrfff, arrfff Arr-arr-arrfff -- That's a good way to end this lengthy post...Arrfff, arrfff Arr-arr-arrfff. |
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Subject: Lyr Add: SWING YOUR TAIL From: Charley Noble Date: 14 Feb 07 - 03:39 PM Here are the rest of the verses to this variant of "Bulldog" which surfaced in the Bahamas in the 1930's and was recorded by Alan Lomax and recently re-issued on CD by Rounder as BAHAMAS 1935: Chanteys and Anthems from Andros and Cat island (part of the Deep River of Song Series);it's called "Swing Your Tail" and is described as a boat launching chantey: Swing Your Tail Bulldog goin' bite me, O swing your tail like a bonefish tail, Bulldog goin' to bite me. O swing your tail like a snapper tail, Bulldog goin' bite me, O them bulldog now barkin' at me, Bulldog goin' to bite me. Swing your tail like a grouper tail, Bulldog goin' bite me, O cause this ship goin' knock your head, Bulldog goin' to bite me. O John Towser, hold your jaw, Ah but the bulldog goin' to bite me, O John Towser, hold your jaw, And the bulldog goin' to bite me. O cause this bulldog goin' to bite my tail, Ah but the bulldog goin' to bite me, O cause this bulldog goin' to bite my tail, Bulldog goin' to bite me. Swing your tail like a barracuda tail, Ah but the bulldog goin' to bite me, O swing your tail like a barracuda tail, Bulldog goin' to bite me. O John Towser, must hold your jaw, Ah but the bulldog, you will bite me, O cause this bulldog goin' to bite my tail, Bulldog goin' to bite me. O John Towser, hold your jaw, Ah but the bulldog, goin' to bite me, O cause swing your tail like a rubber tail, Ah bulldog goin' to bite me. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bull Dog, Don't Bite Me! From: Barry Finn Date: 14 Feb 07 - 11:54 PM Oh, that Bull Dog? Why didn't you ask for that in the first place? Happy Valentine's day to you & Judy, I hope you can dig out by Staurday. Barry |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bull Dog, Don't Bite Me! From: GUEST,Snapper Date: 15 Feb 07 - 11:20 AM Anyone ever heard a song called, "The Wife, the Wife's Mother, the Bulldog, and Me?" Seems puerile, but unaccountably popular. |
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