Lyr Req: Coal Not Dole (Kay Sutcliffe)

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Coal Not Dole (Kay Sutcliffe)
From: r.padgett
Date: 23 Mar 11 - 03:23 AM

In my collection of 2CDs (like 2 jags maybe lol!) with a different tune

There is another thread on this in mudcat somewhere

Ray Padgett

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Coal Not Dole (Kay Sutcliffe)
From: GUEST,Georgina Boyes
Date: 22 Mar 11 - 06:29 PM

The impressive lyrics of "Coal Not Dole" are indeed written by Kay Sutcliffe. They've been set to various tunes (as discussed on other Mudcat threads), including a variant of "See Amid the Winter Snow" suggested to Coope Boyes & Simpson by John Tams. Kay's text becomes ever more meaningful by the day.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Coal Not Dole (Kay Sutcliffe)
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 22 Mar 11 - 03:21 PM

I recently heard this song being credited to Coope, Boyes & Simpson, and told the singer that, although recorded by CBS, it was written by Kay Sutcliffe. Might be worth contacting Georgina Boyes here
Kitty

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Coal Not Dole (Kay Sutcliffe)
From: Mr Happy
Date: 22 Mar 11 - 11:52 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FuUEK243f0

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Coal Not Dole (Kay Sutcliffe)
From: GUEST,Jo
Date: 18 Feb 11 - 07:09 AM

I'd like to use an adapted version of these lyrics in an amateur play - does anyone know how I can get permission to do this?

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Coal Not Dole (Kay Sutcliffe)
From: Mr Happy
Date: 21 Sep 08 - 04:05 AM

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HB8ublmImNU

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: coal not dole:kay sutcliffe
From: Wolfgang
Date: 20 Jun 02 - 07:05 AM

You're right, Mick, in principle. I had tried the forum search first but without success. I now know why: I had entered coal not dole and got all threads in which the word 'coal' but not the word 'dole' is found. This way I missed the Lyr. add. thread. The search did interpret the 'not' in another way than I had meant it.

Correct entry would have been: "coal not dole"

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: coal not dole:kay sutcliffe
From: Mr Happy
Date: 20 Jun 02 - 06:48 AM

mick,

thanks for the tip- i'd only looked under 'c' in the DT- it wasn't there, but i from past +ve exp on mc i kew someone would know

cheers

mr h

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: coal not dole:kay sutcliffe
From: GUEST,MCP
Date: 20 Jun 02 - 06:45 AM

Typing "dole" in the Forum And DT Search box would have lead you to Coal Not Dole message which had a link to Lyr Add: Coal Not Dole, and also the Lyr Add thread itself. (putting "Dole" in finds only the 1st indirect link). Putting "Sutcliffe" in the Forum and DT Search box would also have found the Lyr Add thread directly. Putting "dole" or "Dole" in the Filter box, setting the Age to 3 years and doing refresh would have found the Lyr Add thread directly.

I know the search is a bit hit and miss, but it's usually worth a try and Filter is usually fine if the word apeared in a title.

Mick

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: coal not dole:kay sutcliffe
From: Mr Happy
Date: 20 Jun 02 - 06:22 AM

wolf,

rapid response wot!

thank you

mr h

Subject: Lyr Add: COAL NOT DOLE (Kay Sutcliffe)
From: Wolfgang
Date: 20 Jun 02 - 05:46 AM

COAL NOT DOLE
(Kay Sutcliffe)

It stands so proud, the wheels so still,
A ghost-like figure on the hill.
It seems so strange, there is no sound,
Now there are no men underground.

What will become of this pit-yard,
Where men once trampled faces hard?
Tired and weary, their work done,
Never having seen the sun.

Will it become like sacred ground?
Foreign tourists gazing round.
Asking if men once worked here,
Way beneath this pit-head gear.

Empty trucks once filled with coal,
Lined up like men on the dole.
Will they e're be used again,
Or left for scrap just like the men?

There'll always be a happy hour
For those with money, jobs and power.
They'll never realise the hurt,
They cause to men they treat like dirt.

What will become of this pit-yard,
Where men once trampled faces hard?
Tired and weary, their work done,
Never having seen the sun.

There'll always be a happy hour
For those with money, jobs and power.
They'll never realise the hurt,
They do to them they treat like dirt.

copied and pasted from: http://crydee.sai.msu.ru/public/lyrics/cs-uwp/s/sutcliffe.kay/coal_not_dole

I know it from the Martin Carthy Chronicles CD

Wolfgang

Subject: coal not dole:kay sutcliffe
From: Mr Happy
Date: 20 Jun 02 - 05:06 AM

hi folks!

i'm after words again & i'm sure someone will come up trumps.

does anyone have the words for 'coal not dole'?

i'll be obliged, thanks in advance,

mr h