Help: The Pub Prop Dude?? MIA??

Subject: The Pub Prop Dude?? MIA??
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 22 Jun 02 - 01:30 PM

I've sent Brain a couple of emails recently, and haven't had a response from him...

I seem to recall that a M'catter or 2 are chums with him... If I'm not mistaken, can ya give him a holler, or let me know what his current status is...

I have a bunch of people who want to order his wares...

Unaware?

Check this out... The Pub Prop

;-)

Subject: RE: Help: The Pub Prop Dude?? MIA??
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 22 Jun 02 - 08:05 PM

refresh

Subject: RE: Help: The Pub Prop Dude?? MIA??
From: RichM
Date: 22 Jun 02 - 10:16 PM

What about This from John Pearse?

Subject: RE: Help: The Pub Prop Dude?? MIA??
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 22 Jun 02 - 10:37 PM

Briarmill has something similar. Designs like that work fine at home, but are risky in a crowded bar; they will support an instrument with no problem, but can easily be elbowed off the table or shelf by the usual clumsy drunk. The "pub prop" is the most secure solution I've found, as it clamps onto a shelf or tabletop and can't accidentally be knocked off.

So far as I know, the address is still ok; a friend bought one a few weeks back with no problems. He's probably just behind on answering mail (one-man operation) but if you get no response soon I'll see if I can get him on the phone. Keep us posted.

Subject: RE: Help: The Pub Prop Dude?? MIA??
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 23 Jun 02 - 03:03 AM

Thanks fer the phone offer MD... it's been nearly a week now since I emailed him... maybe I'll let it ride another week, and see if he gets back to me...

Subject: RE: Help: The Pub Prop Dude?? MIA??
From: Harry Basnett
Date: 23 Jun 02 - 06:53 AM

Hi, Clinton..

I'll probably be seeing Brian at the Open Door, Failsworth, tonight...I'll jog his memory and get back to you either on this thread or by PM........

All the best...........Harry.

Subject: RE: Help: The Pub Prop Dude?? MIA??
From: Joan from Wigan
Date: 23 Jun 02 - 12:09 PM

I've also emailed him with a link to this thread.

Joan

Subject: RE: Help: The Pub Prop Dude?? MIA??
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 23 Jun 02 - 04:01 PM

Heh...

That's one thing Mudcatters can always be trusted to provide... a FLOOD!!

LOL!!!

Brian emailed me early this AM...

Thanks for the help folks!

;-)

Subject: RE: Help: The Pub Prop Dude?? MIA??
From: Mr Happy
Date: 23 Jun 02 - 06:02 PM

in my experience + that of friends, neither the pub prop nor the d'angle are foolproof; & in addition both re quite pricey for what they are.

i've made guitar/ banjo table clamps that are as practical as these pricey ones but only cost about 50p.

anyone can make one simply- you need a small woodworkers 'G'clamp- about 50p from the market + the plastic handle from a 5 litre lemonade bottle.drink the pop, then if you're chucking the empty bottle away, then the handle's free. cut the handle off the bottle.

just cut the handle midway & clamp it to a table, using the woodwork clamp.

because plastic handles of this shape have a gene memory of how they should be shaped, when you stick your guitar/ banjo/ other thing into it, it'll remember to come back together & will hold your thing securely

cheers

mr h

Subject: RE: Help: The Pub Prop Dude?? MIA??
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 23 Jun 02 - 06:22 PM

Mr H...

Can you post a pic of yer invention?

I love MY pub props... especially because they mean I don't have to carry a guitar stand around to most gigs these days... That to me was worth the price I paid...

Especially with the bit that I added to mine...

Pub Prop Addition

I also didn't really find them to be very expensive at all... I guess that's a relative thing eh?

;-)

Subject: RE: Help: The Pub Prop Dude?? MIA??
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 23 Jun 02 - 06:32 PM

One advantage of the "Pub Prop" over a home-made version is that it comes with adaptors that suit smaller-necked instruments such as mandolin and fiddle, and also has a built-in bow holder. Perhaps most importantly (from the point of view of whoever's table you are clamping it to) the clamp is very well cushioned and will not mark or bite into the surface to which it's attached.

At just under £12 (a little less than $18US), I wouldn't describe it as "pricey"; good value for what you get, I'd say.

Subject: RE: Help: The Pub Prop Dude?? MIA??
From: Mr Happy
Date: 23 Jun 02 - 06:52 PM

clint & malc, sorry clint, i can't do a pitcher my thing's not an invention, more of an observation.

i've seen others using home made devices befor the 'pupbrop' was marketed, & mine's only a lazy man's variation. neither me nor my buddies play a fiddle, so i've not tried my thing as a holder for one. i guess you'd need a smaller gripper, 'cos a fiddle's got a narrower neck & doesn't reach to the floor. but the current version could certainly support a bow.

however, as cheapo & practical device, mine does for banjo & guitar, just what i need. regretfully it's no good as melodeon holder though.

Subject: RE: Help: The Pub Prop Dude?? MIA??
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 23 Jun 02 - 07:02 PM

Ta fer the info Mr. H...

But I think I'll stick to the real deal...

;-)

Subject: RE: Help: The Pub Prop Dude?? MIA??
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 23 Jun 02 - 07:09 PM

Nothing is foolproof, but the pub prop is remarkably reliable in pretty crowded settings, and if you set it against the pain of getting a loved instrument crash to the floor and get stomped, it's remarkably good value.

The only significant flaw it's got is that it needs a fairly square-edged table, and lots of pub tables are cut on an angle. I've passed that suggestion on to Brian, and I'm hoping he'll come up with a revised model sometime that will take care of that problem.

But I'd sooner trust my guitar to a pub prop than to any expensive guitar stand I've seen - even aside from the convenience, I think it is a lot safer, especially in the settings it is primarily intended for. (And as has been pointed out, it's great for mandolins or fiddles as well.)

Subject: RE: Help: The Pub Prop Dude?? MIA??
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 29 Aug 02 - 09:39 AM

I spoke to Brian last week, and am, pleased to say that you can order a PubProp from CAMSCO Music for $18 (US). CAMSCO takes VISA, MASTER and Discover cards.(S&H to US and Canada included)

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Subject: RE: Help: The Pub Prop Dude?? MIA??
From: mooman
Date: 29 Aug 02 - 10:17 AM

I go nowhere without mine! 12 pounds sterling is a lot cheaper than destruction of one's favourite instrument. While not totally foolproof they are great and I've had quite a few expressions of interest from here in Belgium which I'll pass on to Brian.

Best regards,

mooman

Subject: RE: Help: The Pub Prop Dude?? MIA??
From: Allan Dennehy
Date: 31 Aug 02 - 09:33 AM

I bought my Pub Prop a while ago after posting an enquiry here for a light guitar stand. I love it and you couldn't do business with a nicer person than Brian.

Subject: RE: Help: The Pub Prop Dude?? MIA??
From: Harry Basnett
Date: 31 Aug 02 - 10:45 AM

Brians at Fylde festival - - you'll find him at the Craft Fair...sorry, only useful to U.K. 'catters.

Subject: RE: Help: The Pub Prop Dude?? MIA??
From: Barney Stone
Date: 04 Apr 08 - 04:49 AM

Just letting you guys know, that the Pub Prop is still alive and well. Check out www.stones-music.com for current details. All the best, Barney

Subject: RE: Help: The Pub Prop Dude?? MIA??
From: mandotim
Date: 04 Apr 08 - 04:52 AM

The Pub Prop is indeed alive and well, but sadly Brian Rathmill, the inventor, died in 2003.
Tim

Subject: RE: Help: The Pub Prop Dude?? MIA??
From: Mr Happy
Date: 04 Apr 08 - 06:04 AM

Check out Mr Happy's Economy version: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bobsworkshots/2372977119/in/set-72157604312954893/ !!

Subject: RE: Help: The Pub Prop Dude?? MIA??
From: banjoman
Date: 04 Apr 08 - 06:39 AM

Best thing since sliced bread and I wouldn't be without the Pub prop.
Saves a lot of space in the music case and we use them in church as well as pubs so we have renamed them our church props. They fasten great onto the backs of the pews in our church. I tried for ages to come up with something like this and used old capos, bits of coathangers etc - then I found the pub prop- great

Subject: RE: Help: The Pub Prop Dude?? MIA??
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 04 Apr 08 - 07:16 AM

My experience is that it's OK to lean instruments against but no good for hanging them on, ie. mandolins and fiddles, the clamp is OK but the flat part needs to be more rigid for better security.

eric