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Subject: RE: New sea music cd, Time Ashore is Over From: Charley Noble Date: 17 Jul 02 - 03:16 PM Richard- If you could post your lyrics to "Hooker John" and "Roller Bowler", along with your more extensive notes, I would greatly appreciate it. You certainly nailed these two shanties! Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: New sea music cd, Time Ashore is Over From: radriano Date: 17 Jul 02 - 02:49 PM I am pleased to announce that my cd Time Ashore is Over will soon be available in the UK from the Chantey Cabin website. The album will also be available online in the US at the Wooden Ships Music site. Richard |
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Subject: Lyr Add: BILLY O'SHEA From: radriano Date: 16 Jul 02 - 06:46 PM BILLY O'SHEA Oh, we all got drunk in Dublin City Ch: Fall down, me Billy We all got drunk and oh, what a pity Ch: Fall down, Billy O'Shea Full Chorus: Fall down, fall down Fall down, me Billy We're bound away for Americay Fall down, Billy O'Shea We all got drunk on the Rogerson's quay And when we awoke we were all at sea Oh, we're not sailors, Captain Drew And a bit unhappy to work for you The Captain said, "I've a cure for that" "And here for a start is a dose of the cat" He sent him up to the top mast yard When he hit the deck, well, he hit it hard We wrapped him up in a canvas sail And we lowered him gently o'er the rail Over the side and down he goes He's gone to Davy Jones with a stitch through his nose Farewell, farewell, farewell, me Billy For I am bound for Americay I first heard about this shanty on the Mudcat Café Forum. Click on the thread below to see the discussion. Shanty:Billy O'Shea In addition to the lyrics found at the Mudcat postings I bought a recording of the song by the Whigamaleeries on their cassette titled Tall Ships and Graeme Knights was kind enough to provide me with the melody and lyrics he sings (I also bought a copy of his cd Echoes from Afar that has Billy O'Shea on it as soon as it was released). As it turned out I liked Dan Milner's melody better but the lyrics I sing are compiled from all the versions I found. According to Pete MacNab's post in the thread on Billy O'Shea there was originally no full chorus. By the way, I highly recommend Graeme Knight's recording Echoes from Afar. In addition to some great singing by Graeme the album features a stellar chorus which includes Johnny Collins, Dave Webber and Anni Fentiman, among others. Radriano |
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Subject: RE: New sea music cd, Time Ashore is Over From: DADGBE Date: 16 Jul 02 - 06:11 PM For those mudcatters from out of the San Francisco Bay area who may not know about Richard, his music and he have been an inspiration for many of us locals for more than 20 years. The new recording is a joy as are all the old ones from Out Of The Rain. Love the CD!!! |
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Subject: Lyr Add: AWAY, SUSANNA! From: radriano Date: 16 Jul 02 - 12:07 PM I've had several requests for lyrics for the songs on my cd. As suggested by Joe Offer, I'll offer lyrics for each of the songs in separate posts to this thread. I was forced to be very sparse in my liner notes so this is a grand opportunity for more complete notes on the songs. AWAY, SUSANNA! sheet shanty Shanghaied in San Francisco, we fetched up in Bombay They set us afloat in an old lease boat that steered like a bale of hay Chorus: Then away, Susanna, my fair maid Oho, ye New York girls, can't ye dance the polka We panted in the tropics whilst the pitch boiled up on deck We've saved our hides, little else besides, from an ice-cold North Sea wreck We drank our rum in Portland, we've thrashed through the Behring Strait An' we toed the mark on a Yankee barque with a hard-case down-east mate We know the quays of Glasgow, an' the boom of the lone Azores We've had our grub from a salt-horse tub, condemned by the Navy stores We know the track to Auckland an' the light of the Kinsale Head An' we crept close-hauled while the leadsman called the depth of the channel bed We know the streets of Santos, the river at Saigon We've had our glass with a Chinese lass in Ship Street in Hong Kong They'll pay us off in London, then it's oh, for a spell ashore Then again we'll ship for a southern trip in a week or hardly more 'Tis goodbye, Sal an' Lucy, 'tis time we were afloat With a straw-stuffed bed, an' achin' head, a knife an' an oilskin coat Sing "Time For Us To Leave Her", sing "Bound For The Rio Grande" An' when the tug turns back, we'll follow her track for a last long look at the land An' when the purple disappears an' only the blue is seen That'll take our bones to Davy Jones an' our souls to Fiddler's Green Away, Susanna! is straight out of Stan Hugill's Shanties From the Seven Seas. On my recording I left out the sixth verse and put in a fiddle break in it's place. I love shanties that mention different ports and this song was especially appropriate because San Francisco is mentioned. Away, Susanna! is the shanghai version of Can't Ye Dance the Polka, the well known song about the sailor who gets drunk and is cheated out of his money and clothes. Notes from Hugill's book: This capstan song has many versions of the words, both those of the verses and chorus, and the song probably started life in the Western Ocean Packets about the thirties or forties of the last century, when the polka reached America from Bohemia. The tune is thought to be that of an Irish air Larry Doolan, and one version does start with a verse from this ballad: My name is Larry Doolan, Oi'm a native of the soil, If yer want a day's diversion, bhoys, Oi'll drive ye out in stoile The words of the chorus give room for speculation. In my more modern first version the first lines of the chorus run: Then away Susanna, my fair maid… These words I've heard sung by Charlie Evans, a fine shantyman, one-time member of the crew of the Yankee ship The older Packet ship words were: Away you Santi, my dear honey… or Away you Santi, my dear Annie… Sometimes too one would hear 'Away you Johnnie, my dear honey' or 'my fair man' (Bullen), but in the main 'Santi' was sung. Now no one has ever given a real reason, or meaning, for this word; it just appears to be a meaningless name of some sort. I thought so too, until I came across a version giving 'Away you Santa, my dear Anna' and the explanation became clear - the mysterious 'Santi' or 'Santa' being nothing more than the two first syllables or our friend 'Santi-anna' or 'Santa'anna' or, as it was usually written, 'Santiana'! My first version of Away, Susanna was invariably sung to the 'shanhaied in San Francisco' theme. Charlie Evans, Arthur Spence, Bosun Chenoworth, 'Artie', an A.B. of the New Zealand brigantine Aratapu, and many other shipmates of mine all sang these words. However, I believe that these verses are of comparatively recent date and that they came from a poem (the author of which I have never discovered). Probably some versatile shantyman thought them 'just the job' and spliced them to the old Packet Rat shanty. Nevertheless, they were accepted and sung by hundreds of shantymen in the latter days of sail. Every sailing-ship man I ever knew was acquainted with them. |
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Subject: RE: New sea music cd, Time Ashore is Over From: radriano Date: 15 Jul 02 - 11:45 AM refresh |
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Subject: RE: New sea music cd, Time Ashore is Over From: Noreen Date: 12 Jul 02 - 06:45 PM The only way I can think of for getting this wonderful CD is to send dollar bills through the post, which obviously has security implications. Any better ideas? Please? |
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Subject: RE: New sea music cd, Time Ashore is Over From: radriano Date: 12 Jul 02 - 03:27 PM Man, you guys just warm the cockles of my heart. Joe, are you really suggesting that I post the lyrics to all 16 songs in this thread? Or did I misunderstand what you were saying? I haven't checked but I'll bet that some of these songs are already in the DT. I'll be happy to post them if people really want me to. Barry, I'm glad you and your family are enjoying the music. You know it takes a West Coast singer to have that kind of effect on people. Seriously though, it was a real feather in my cap to have your melifluous voice on some of the cuts. Chanteyranger, when I mentioned an arrangement I was talking about the lyrics to Billy O'Shea, man. I thought I was being generous with the $20. See where being a nice guy gets you? |
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Subject: RE: New sea music cd, Time Ashore is Over From: Peter Kasin Date: 12 Jul 02 - 12:08 AM $20??? Hey, Radriano, you omitted a couple of digits. I though we had a deal, man! :-0
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Subject: RE: New sea music cd, Time Ashore is Over From: katlaughing Date: 12 Jul 02 - 12:02 AM Thanks, Richard, I will send you a check for both. |
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Subject: RE: New sea music cd, Time Ashore is Over From: Joe Offer Date: 11 Jul 02 - 08:57 PM Well, I finally got the time to give a serious listen to Richard's CD. It sounds just like he sounds in person - solid, unaffected, bringing out all the meaning and beauty of a song. It's an absolute pleasure to listen to Richard's singing. Hey, and he's a nice guy, too. thanks, Richard. Might you think of posting your lyrics here in this thread? -Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: New sea music cd, Time Ashore is Over From: Barry Finn Date: 11 Jul 02 - 08:38 PM Hi radriano. Thanks for the copy. It came a few days back, what a great unexpected treasure. It's been sharing my office, my truck & my house & my kids (note here, not my wife) were getting pretty pissed at me for cutting into their music time. That was until they both finally took some notice & said that they knew some of the songs & both started singing parts of the chorus & giggling. It's not to often that they'll let me play a CD the whole way through, without some kind of snide remark, it's never that they'd stand for a couple of replays. I guess you're a hit with them, damn something I haven't been able to accomplish since they were young'ens. It's really a real keeper, great job & well done & thanks. It's good to hear your voice again from coast to coast. Barry |
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Subject: RE: New sea music cd, Time Ashore is Over From: Charley Noble Date: 11 Jul 02 - 05:09 PM Geez, Richard (everyone else please ignore), I only got a complimentary CD and it ain't even got your autograph on it. I didn't know there was such big money in nautical rave reviews. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: New sea music cd, Time Ashore is Over From: radriano Date: 11 Jul 02 - 12:49 PM Katlaughing, I do still have cassette copies of Song of the Wage Slave - Out of the Rain's first cassette A Common Treasury is temporarily out of print. I was hoping to turn both of these into CDs but first I have to dig myself out of the financial hole the new shanty CD put me in. Song of the Wage Slave is available from me for $12 (including postage)(see address posted earlier in this thread). One of the special features of this recording is poems set to music by one of the band members, Marla Fibish. The title track is, of course, a Robert Service poem and the other two are There Came a Day by poet Ted Hughes and Joe Whitaker by poet Don West. Marla and her husband Jamie now run the Adelphian Center for the Arts in Alameda, California, which provides another venue for concerts and dances in the SF Bay Area. Richard P.S. Chanteyranger, you'll get your twenty dollars Saturday, okay? Good job on the plugs, buddy! |
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Subject: RE: New sea music cd, Time Ashore is Over From: katlaughing Date: 11 Jul 02 - 03:42 AM Congratulations, radriano and I'll be sending my check in right away, too. Really looking forward to it, esp. with the recommends and comments in this thread! How do we get copies of your former band's tapes, too? I am of the mind a body can never have enough Mudcatter CD's and tapes.*g* Thanks, kat |
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Subject: RE: New sea music cd, Time Ashore is Over From: Peter Kasin Date: 10 Jul 02 - 11:55 PM Semi thread creep here. While on the subject of Out Of The Rain, I'm going to put a plug in for Radriano's work with that group, briefly re-united for this recording. They were one of the bay area's finest folk groups in the 1980's, (in an area rich in folk performers) and their two recordings are very well worth having. The vocal arrangements are intricate and careful, but sound simple to the ear - never overdone. I find their second tape, "Song Of The Wage Slave," to be downright addictive. chanteyranger |
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Subject: RE: New sea music cd, Time Ashore is Over From: radriano Date: 10 Jul 02 - 12:05 PM Charley, thanks for your kind words. The chorus arrangements for the shanties are pretty organic - except for a couple of instances I did very little arranging. Initially I recorded all the songs solo so that my chorus singers could get used to my phrasings (and my idosyncracies). In the final sessions everything was done live which meant that recording took a bit longer but what really brought out the best balance was the work of my sound engineer, Michael Harmon. After a few verses of a song Michael would stop us and direct specific chorus singers to move their positions relative to the microphones. Michael was also very good about letting singers (myself especially) know when they were out of tune. The sea songs done with my former band Out of the Rain were quite a different story. We were known for very tight three part harmony singing - we used to spend several hours of rehearsal going over one line of one song. As it happened, one of the band members was just about to move out of the SF Bay Area so we had to throw together those arrangements rather quickly. Richard |
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Subject: RE: New sea music cd, Time Ashore is Over From: Charley Noble Date: 10 Jul 02 - 10:32 AM Richard, you have some nice strong leads on this recording. I especially like the "hitches" and chorus arrangements for "Away Susanna!", "Hooker John", "Billy O'Shea", and "Roller Bowler". I bet they'd sound even better on the home stereo system rather than the one in the van but then I'd never get to listen to them! I always wish for more extensive notes but having had to edit our own draft CD notes down to a few spare sentences makes me empathetic but equally frustrated. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: New sea music cd, Time Ashore is Over From: SINSULL Date: 08 Jul 02 - 08:58 PM Currently am plum out of fairy gold dust but will send the required $17. Congratulations, radriano. |
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Subject: RE: New sea music cd, Time Ashore is Over From: radriano Date: 08 Jul 02 - 01:43 PM I forgot to mention that I do have lyric sheets available for my album. Anyone who wants one can e-mail me at: radriano@consrv.ca.gov The lyric sheet file is in MS Word format but I can easily save it as a MAC file as well. Monetary considerations forced me to be sparse with liner notes but I'd be happy to elaborate on them via e-mail. Charley, Bob Webb also does a version of Ilo Man on his cd "Bank Trollers." In fact, the info in my liner notes about Ilo Man comes from Bob. Richard |
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Subject: RE: New sea music cd, Time Ashore is Over From: radriano Date: 08 Jul 02 - 12:52 PM Now all you guys and gals are making me blush. Charley, I also think "Ilo Man" is related to "Huckleberry Hunting" - you can hear it in the melody especially in the version of "Huckleberry Hunting" sung on the new "The Johnson Girls" cd. The melody for "Huckleberry Hunting" found in "Shanties of the Seven Seas" is quite different (Hugill calls the song "Ranzo Way") I got "Ilo Man" from an English shanty band called "The Harry Browns of Bristol" (formerly the Harry Brown Shantymen of Bristol). Unfortunately the liner notes from their album say next to nothing about the songs. Richard |
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Subject: RE: New sea music cd, Time Ashore is Over From: Charley Noble Date: 07 Jul 02 - 05:15 PM I've been enjoying my complimentary copy for the last week in the van. Richard, you've got some nice arrangements here of less familiar sea songs. I'm still puzzling over "Ilo Man" which reminds me of our New England "Huckleberry Hunting" in tune and even a number of verses, but the set of verses you found wins hands down. "Time Ashore is Over" makes a nice closing song; I may steal it, or swap you "Yangtse River"! Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: New sea music cd, Time Ashore is Over From: GUEST,Melani Date: 07 Jul 02 - 12:32 PM I just heard it entirely for the first time two days ago. It's got great versions of songs you don't hear everyday. Everyone should get a copy immediately! |
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Subject: RE: New sea music cd, Time Ashore is Over From: Celtic Soul Date: 03 Jul 02 - 11:18 PM Congratulations! I know exactly what you mean. It may be a labor of love, but it's still labor. I am glad to hear of yet another Shanty band keeping the tradition alive, as well.
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Subject: RE: New sea music cd, Time Ashore is Over From: Peter Kasin Date: 03 Jul 02 - 10:48 PM I'm more than a little biased here.... it's REALLY GOOD! As Radriano would say: "Sounds like a weiner!" chanteyranger |
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Subject: RE: New sea music cd, Time Ashore is Over From: Noreen Date: 03 Jul 02 - 07:22 AM Very interesting... let me know how I can get a copy on this side of the pond please, Richard. |
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Subject: RE: New sea music cd, Time Ashore is Over From: DonMeixner Date: 02 Jul 02 - 11:37 PM Hi Richard, Great news. I really enjoyed the process to do our CD, "Finally". Hope your was as much fun to do as ours. Don |
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Subject: RE: New sea music cd, Time Ashore is Over From: Barry Finn Date: 02 Jul 02 - 10:23 PM Congrats radriano, it's been a long time coming, great things are always worth the wait. Hey out there, I have inside info that this is a CD worth it's weight in fairy gold dust. Such a deal. Barry |
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Subject: RE: New sea music cd, Time Ashore is Over From: Charley Noble Date: 01 Jul 02 - 01:53 PM Congratulations, Richard! It's a long and arduous process which is inadequately described by any shanty that I know. Roll & Go's first CD is still mired in that process; I'm meeting with a design consultant today to see what she can suggest for improving our print copy. Still looking forward to singing with you and Chantyranger in September in the Bay area. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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Subject: New sea music cd, Time Ashore is Over From: radriano Date: 01 Jul 02 - 01:30 PM I'm pleased to announce that my new CD "Time Ashore is Over" is finally finished! This is a recording of sea shanties and sea songs featuring a chorus of shanty singers from San Francisco's Hyde Street Pier. Also featured is "Out of the Rain" - I reunited the original members of my former band to record three new songs. The CD is also a celebration of the 20th anniversary of the monthly shanty sings at Hyde Street Pier. Track list: 1. Heave Away Cheerily, O! 2. Away Susana! 3. The Apprentice Boy 4. The Grimsby Lads 5. Hooker John 6. The Ocean Queen 7. Saltpetre Shanty 8. Bound to Australia 9. Billy O'Shea 10. Firing the Mauritania 11. Jackie Tar 12. Roller Bowler 13. Ilo Man 14. Morning Shanty 15. Rolly Boys Roll 16. Time Ashore is Over Anyone interested in ordering by mail can write to me at the address or e-mail shown below. Cost of the CD for mail orders is $17 (this includes tax and shipping costs). IThis info is for orders in the USA. I have not calculated overseas shipping yet because postage rates are increasing here in the States. Richard Adrianowicz 604 Irving Street, # 1 San Francisco, CA 94122 radriano@consrv.ca.gov |
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