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Lyr Req: She didn't dance, dance, dance /Cucanandy

Mrrzy 19 Jul 02 - 04:18 PM
pattyClink 19 Jul 02 - 04:41 PM
kytrad (Jean Ritchie) 19 Jul 02 - 04:46 PM
Susan of DT 19 Jul 02 - 06:44 PM
pattyClink 20 Jul 02 - 09:46 AM
GUEST,Guest Ginger Rogers 20 Jul 02 - 09:53 AM
CapriUni 20 Jul 02 - 11:17 AM
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Subject: She didn't dance, dance, dance
From: Mrrzy
Date: 19 Jul 02 - 04:18 PM

Sorry if there is already a thread on this, or if it's in the Trad, no search function for me today.

This is a kind of sea chanty, I think, I have it by the Clancy Brothers, but what is it ABOUT?

CHO: She didn't dance, dance, dance
She didn't dance at all today
She didn't dance, dance, dance
No, nor yesterday
Dance her up and up and up, dance her up in the sky
Dance her up and up and up and up and she'll be gone, bye bye!

She was like a lady, she was like a queen
She was like a lady, (something something something?)
CHO
and then I can't remember the rest.

Is it about being becalmed?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: She didn't dance, dance, dance
From: pattyClink
Date: 19 Jul 02 - 04:41 PM

I think it's in Mary O'Hara's Song for Ireland book, I'll see if I can find it; she tends to give background info.


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Subject: Lyr Add: CUC-A-NANDY
From: kytrad (Jean Ritchie)
Date: 19 Jul 02 - 04:46 PM

No. It's a baby-bouncing, or dandling song. Mrs. Cronin (known as Bess Cronin now, since the book) in Cork sang it for me in 1952; called it, "Cuc-a-nandy," and her words went:

Cuc-a-nandy, nandy, cuc-a-nandy-O (three times)
Pwr-tyn-h'yan-a-tee, th' synnin philobe- hyula
(my idea of what it sounded like. Someone correct me?)

He didn't dance, dance, and he didn't dance today,
He didn't dance, dance and no nor yesterday-
He didn't dance, dance, and he didn't dance today,
He didn't dance, dance, and nor nor yesterday.

Throw him over, over, throw him o'er the sea,
Throw him over, over, he'll be home for tea!
Throw him over, over, throw him o,er the sea,
Throw him over, over, he'll be home today...

(Tune uses "high part" here)
Throw him up, up, throw him up high!
Throw him up, up and he'll be down by'n by-
Throw him up, up, throw him up'n the sky,
Throw him up, up, and he'll be down by'n by

Cuc-a-nandy, nandy, cuc-a-nandy-O (3x, same as first vs)

Another verse or two; I'm too lazy to look them up now. If it's not to be found anywhere here, ask and I'll try to give someone the melody- a mighty pretty one! Jean


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: She didn't dance, dance, dance
From: Susan of DT
Date: 19 Jul 02 - 06:44 PM

{dick greenhaus here)

Jean- I'll look 'em up. There's a very nice book about Ms. Cronin, complete with words and music to most of her songs and two CDs of her singing! . $35 bucks at CAMSCO.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: She didn't dance, dance, dance
From: pattyClink
Date: 20 Jul 02 - 09:46 AM

Just to confirm, it is described by Mary O'Hara also as a 'dandling song' for bouncing a baby to.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: She didn't dance, dance, dance
From: GUEST,Guest Ginger Rogers
Date: 20 Jul 02 - 09:53 AM

And they bounced the babies to the same tune in Ireland from Brian Boru was in short pants, it`s from the Gaelic, "She didn`t dance". Ginger Rogers


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: She didn't dance, dance, dance
From: CapriUni
Date: 20 Jul 02 - 11:17 AM

Mrrzy--

I know the song from a Mary O'Hara record I bought for cheap in College... And I'm stumped on the

She was like a lady, (something something something?)

line, too... (dancing for the king [????]) Maybe... Pattyclink, when you find the book, could you clarify this bit, please?

Anyway, makes perfect sense (to me, ymmv) as a dandling song "She (he) hasn't danced in days, so let's get some dancing going, here -- pronto!" :-)


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Subject: Lyr Add: SHE DIDN'T DANCE (from Mary O'Hara)
From: Alice
Date: 20 Jul 02 - 11:56 AM

Joe Heaney also sang Cucanandy. Mary O'Hara wrote in her book "A Song For Ireland" that she learned this baby dandling song from Liam Clancy when she was living in New York City in 1956. These are the lyrics as Mary O'Hara recorded it:

SHE DIDN'T DANCE

She didn't dance, dance, dance,
She didn't dance at all today,
She didn't dance, dance, dance,
No, nor yesterday

chorus:
Dance her up, and up, and up, and up,
and dance her up to the sky,
Dance her up, and up, and up, and up,
And she'll be down by and by.

Oh, she was like a lady,
She was like a queen,
She was like a lady,
Off to the fair at Glyn.

The Joe Heaney version is more like the one Jean posted of Mrs. Cronin.

When my son was a baby, I used to sing this to him, (he was like a king, etc., off the the fair again). I'd lift him up higher and higher on the line up and up to the sky, and he would giggle and smile.

Alice


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: She didn't dance, dance, dance
From: Alice
Date: 20 Jul 02 - 12:03 PM

The version Joe Heaney sang is recorded on "Say A Song". On the notes it is spelled Coochenanty on a track with Seaothín Seó and Oró mo Bháidín.

Alice


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: She didn't dance, dance, dance
From: CapriUni
Date: 20 Jul 02 - 05:07 PM

Thanks, Alice!

I guess I never quite heard "Off to the fair at Glyn" because I didn't know there was a place called Glyn, or that they held a fair there...


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: She didn't dance, dance, dance
From: robinia
Date: 20 Jul 02 - 11:53 PM

I heard as a last verse to this dandling song: "Piper sell your pipes and buy your wife a gown (3x) ; I wouldn't sell my pipes for all the wives in town'" (followed by a cuckanandy verse in the high melodic variant); I also heard the first verse as "Didn't dance a dance, didn't dance today; didn't dance a dance, an hour yesterday (2x)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: She didn't dance, dance, dance
From: GUEST,pt
Date: 09 Aug 08 - 10:43 AM

the words i hear in the second verse are "...she is like a lady, off to the faery glen. i first thought it about flying a kite or a ballon but itis in the past tense so i wondered if it was about a (child's) death : gone to dance in the sky (heaven?) (faery glen?). anyhow, it is a wonderful song, i have it on a clancy bros. cd, track 8 is a collection of songs /rhymes done by children.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: She didn't dance, dance, dance
From: GUEST,Mom of 2
Date: 03 Nov 09 - 11:08 PM

Here are the Lyrics as I have learned from our Infant Mother Goose sessions:

She didn't dance, dance, dance
She didn't dance at all today
She didn't dance, dance, dance, no nor yesterday
So dance her up and up and up and up
Dance her up to the sky
Dance her up and up and up and up, and she'll be down by and by
She is like a lady, she is like a queen, she is like a lady off to the fair at Lynn
So dance her up and up and up and up, dance her up to the sky
Dance her up and up and up and up, and she'll be down by and by

He didn't dance, dance, dance
He didn't dance at all today, dance, no nor yesterday
So dance him up and up and up and up
Dance him up to the sky
He is like a gentleman, he is like a king, he is like a gentleman off to the fair at Lynn
So dance him up and up and up and up, dance him up to the sky
Dance him up and up and up and up, and he'll be down by and by.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: She didn't dance, dance, dance
From: GUEST, Kerry
Date: 11 May 10 - 08:38 PM

I heard this as a song from my Grandma ( who was Welsh, go figure) and I turned it into a skipping song at school. I always thought it was about the moon - dance her up in the sky - what do you think?

Kerry (Melbourne, Australia)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: She didn't dance, dance, dance /Cucanandy
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 08 Sep 10 - 01:23 PM

Back on 19 Jul 02 - 04:46 PM, kytrad gave a phonetic spelling for a line which I assume is Irish Gaelic:

"Pwr-tyn-h'yan-a-tee, th' synnin philobe- hyula"

Can anyone supply the correct Irish spelling of this line, and an English translation? Or is it nonsense?

What about the word "cucanandy"—does that mean anything, or is it nonsense?

Are there more Irish words to this song?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: She didn't dance, dance, dance /Cucanandy
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 10 Sep 10 - 02:13 PM

I have been researching recordings of CUCANANDY, and although I wasn't able to find an answer to my own question, maybe this information will be useful to someone:

Most often, CUCANANDY appears as part of a medley.

Clannad recorded CUCANANDY in a medley with THE JUG OF BROWN ALE on their own albums:

*"Dulaman," Shanachie LP 79008, 1976; & CD, 2005.
"The Essential Clannad," Grapevine CD 320, 2001.
*"The Celtic Voice," Brentwood Records CD 40934, 2005.

--and on the following various-artists compilations:

*"Blasta! The Irish Traditional Music Special," RMG Chart CD 007, 1999.
"Treasury of Irish Music," Music Club Records CD 361, 1999.
*"Celtic Favourites: 36 Traditional Irish Songs," Solid Gold Records CD 2042, 2005.
"Cafe Ireland," Metro CD 91, 2007.

Brian Hughes (a whistle player) recorded CUCANANDY in a medley with THE PRIDE OF KILDARE and THE HUMOURS OF CLOUGH on "Whistle Stop," Gael-Linn CD 178, 1999.

Cran recorded CUCANANDY in a medley with THE DUSTY MILLER on their album "The Crooked Star," Claddagh Records CD 001, 2006.

*The band Cucanandy recorded the song CUCANANDY on their album "He Didn't Dance," Milky Way Music 1002, 1999.

There is a recording of CUCANANDY on the various-artists "new age" collection "Celtic Renaissance," North Sound CD 6001, 1998.

There is a recording of CUCANANDY on the 3-CD various-artists collection called "Best of Irish Trad" Spirit Music 002, 2003.

For the latter two recordings, I couldn't find the name(s) of the performer(s).


* The versions marked with an asterisk have samples available at Allmusic.com.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: She didn't dance, dance, dance /Cucanandy
From: GUEST,^&*
Date: 10 Sep 10 - 02:33 PM

Are there more Irish words to this song?

Jim

Yes - there are Irish sets to it, some of which also contain simple vocables IIRC. I'll see what I can find.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: She didn't dance, dance, dance /Cucanandy
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 15 Apr 11 - 11:52 PM

I have a copy of this recording and the lyrics in an old record album of lullabies from 1966. First printing was listed as 1956. It was on the album, Golden Slumbers (A Caedmon Soundbook with high fidelity record). I remember this was one of my favorites growing up and I was so surprised that I found it again. This book has lullabies from all around the world with simple sheet music and lyrics listed. This one is on page 19. It was recorded by Robin Roberts who said she was taught the song along with the one titled "Dance to Your Daddy," by Mrs. Elizabeth Cronin.

The Irish lyrics listed here are : "Purteen hyann a teetha 'ss inneen fillib a chyeoil."

Hope this helps someone else out there. I wish I could find this version on Cd, it would make my year!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: She didn't dance, dance, dance /Cucanandy
From: GUEST,Matt
Date: 17 May 13 - 02:32 PM

I realize this is a few years late and sorry if this is somewhere else but I have heard it both from Clannad and from Bua. The final line of the chorus in both is listed as "Poirtin Sheain a' tSioda is Rince Philib a Cheoil" Sorry no fada. It translates as Silken John's little tune and Philip of the Music's Dance. On Bua's album An Spealadoir they follow it with another song Rince Philib a Cheoil of which the first part of every verse is the afore mentioned line. Hope this helps.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: She didn't dance, dance, dance /Cucanandy
From: MartinRyan
Date: 17 May 13 - 02:53 PM

Thanks for that GUESTMatt - it's never too late around here!

Regards


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: She didn't dance, dance, dance /Cucanandy
From: GUEST,Blandiver
Date: 17 May 13 - 04:07 PM

Somewhere I've got a cracking recording of Seamus Ennis singing this - probably on an old Folktrax cassette.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: She didn't dance, dance, dance /Cucanandy
From: Richard Mellish
Date: 17 May 13 - 05:37 PM

And I think I have a recording of Ilish (spelling?) Moore singing it.

Richard


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: She didn't dance, dance, dance /Cucanandy
From: GUEST,Niall Kavanagh
Date: 04 Mar 16 - 03:54 PM

The Gloaming a new Irsh music based group has released a version of Cucanandy on their new album called 2.
It is only Brillant .


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: She didn't dance, dance, dance /Cucanandy
From: keberoxu
Date: 12 Jul 16 - 03:45 PM

From "Irish Women's Writing and Traditions," Vol. IV, the Field Day Anthology of Irish Writing.
editor: there are eight names, all women, beginning with Angela Bourke
publisher: New York: NYU Press, © 2002

section titled "Oral Traditions", edited by Angela Bourke
chapter: "The Song Tradition", edited by Ríonach Uí Ógáin and Tom Munnelly
page 1354: collected from Elizabeth "Bess" Cronin

CUC-A-NEAINDÍ

Hups, a Sheáin, a bhráthair, fuair do mháthair bás
Ó, ní bhfuair, ní bhfuair do chuaigh sí suas an tsráid
Hups, a Sheáin, a bhráthair, fuair do mháthair bás
Ó, ní bhfuair in aon chor, chuaigh sí suas an tsráid

Cuc-a-neandí-neandí, cuc-a-neandí-ó
Cuc-a-neandí-neandí, cuc-a-neandí-ó
Cuc-a-neandí-neandí, cuc-a-neandí-ó
Portín Sheáin an tsíoda is iníon Philib an cheoil

[the above must be Jean Ritchie's mystery-line that she spelled phonetically]

He didn't dance, dance, and he didn't dance today,
He didn't dance, dance, no, nor yesterday
He didn't dance, dance, no, nor yesterday

Throw him up, up, throw him up high
Throw him up, up, and he'll come down by and by
Throw him up, up, and he'll come down by and by

Throw him over, over, throw him over sea
Throw him over, over, he'll be here today
Throw him over, over, throw him over sea
Throw him over, over, he'll be here for tea

Didil í aigh, dí aigh dí, didil í aigh dí am
Didil í aigh dí, aigh dí, aigh dí aigh dí am   
Dó dil í dil í dil, dó dí aigh dí am
Didil í aigh dil amh dil, damh dí aigh dí am

From BBC Recording 1947, IFC/FMS 710A, according to notes by editor Ríonach Uí Ógáin


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: She didn't dance, dance, dance /Cucanandy
From: GUEST,Joseph McGinley
Date: 05 Jan 18 - 07:56 AM

Just thought I'd add that my Dad half-remembers his grandmother singing the following in Leenane (Co Galway) in the 1950s:

"She didn't dance, she didn't dance, she didn't dance today
She didn't dance, she didn't dance, the piper didn't play."


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: She didn't dance, dance, dance /Cucanandy
From: Mrrzy
Date: 05 Jan 18 - 08:11 AM

Cool stuff!


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