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Lyr Req: When First unto This Country (Lee Valley DigiTrad: WHEN FIRST INTO THIS COUNTRY WHEN FIRST TO THIS COUNTRY Related threads: Lyr Req: When First unto This Country (5) Lyr Req: When First unto This Country (13) Lyr/Chords Req: When First Unto This Country (7) |
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Subject: When First I came into this Country From: dulcimer Date: 21 Jul 02 - 10:20 PM What information does anyone have on this song, done by the Lee Valley String Band on vol1 of Bringing It All Back Home? CD notes imply it is Old Timey and say it is trad. arr. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: When First I came into this Country From: masato sakurai Date: 21 Jul 02 - 11:14 PM "When First into This Country" by Lee Valley String Band is on Bringing It All Back Home, vol. 1 (with sound clip). The lyrics for "When First To This Country" is in the DT (CLICK HERE), as well as WHEN FIRST INTO THIS COUNTRY. Info on the song is here: The Traditional Ballad Index: When First To This Country. ~Masato |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: When First I came into this Country From: dulcimer Date: 22 Jul 02 - 01:11 AM Thanks. I put the title in a couple of different times and different ways into the Discussion and Lyrics searches and got nothing. Guess a word was wrong. Thanks again. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: When First I came into this Country From: Stewie Date: 22 Jul 02 - 03:08 AM The note to the song in Cohen/Seeger/Wood 'Old-Time String Band Songbook' [previously 'The New Lost City Ramblers Songbook'] is that the Ramblers version [the one in the DT] is from the 'Gant Family, Library of Congress 1934, recorded by John and Alan Lomax. [AAFS 65A2]'. The note goes on: 'The Gant Family of Austin, Texas, sang a great many unusual songs for the Lomaxes. The words in this version come directly from the L of C recording and are somewhat different from the Lomax publication of this same song (which was the source of the NLCR version)'. That latter part of the note is a bit ambiguous for me - I am not quite sure what it means in terms of their source. The source reference given in the insert to the LP 'NLCR Vol II' [FA 2397], wherein the song appears, is as follows: '"Our Singing Country", JA and A Lomax & RC Seeger, Acc on guitar and sung by Foy Gant and Mrs Gant, Austin, Texas 1935'. The discrepancy in recording dates seems to muddy the waters further. Can someone shed some light on this? Is there a printed version in 'Our Singing Country' that is 'somewhat different' from the Gant Recording? The Ballad Index entry to which Masato linked does not seem to be of any help in this regard. --Stewie. |
Subject: Lyr Add: WHEN FIRST TO THIS COUNTRY A STRANGER... From: Stewie Date: 22 Jul 02 - 09:54 AM Coincidentally, a question about this song was raised today with the old-time music newsgroup. Lyle Lofgren posted a short article he had written on the song and his transcription of the Gant recording which differs in minor respects with version in the NLCR songbook. The following is a copy-and-paste of this interesting article:
WHEN FIRST TO THIS COUNTRY A STRANGER I CAME It seems those few changes are what is meant by the comment 'somewhat different' in the note in the NLCR songbook. From what Lofgren writes, there is only one version and variation resulting from different listeners. --Stewie. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: When First I came into this Country From: allanwill Date: 22 Jul 02 - 10:33 AM My favourite versions of this song are by Dave Burland on his "Songs and Buttered Haycocks" album and Fairport on their "Gottle o' Gear" album. If memory serves me correctly, Dave sings the first line "When fi-irst to this country ...." and Fairport "When a-first into ...". I have seen the song in print titled "When first UNTO this country...". Allan |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: When First I came into this Country From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca Date: 22 Jul 02 - 10:44 AM There is a song with a similar title which I will have to look up. It seems to me, that it was a song about going back to a European country by a fellow from the US of A.
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Subject: Lyr Add: GREEN MOSSY BANKS OF THE LEA From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca Date: 05 Aug 02 - 05:18 PM Well I found it. It's called Green Mossy Banks of the Lea. There is a similar song in the DT from the MacKenzie book
GREEN MOSSY BANKS OF THE LEA When first to this country a stranger See MacKenziie, No. 47; Journal, 11, 150, and compare Pretty Girl Milking Her Cow. Cf. also Hannaghan, The Book of Irish Gaels, The Old Bridge at Toor. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: When First I came into this Country From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 05 Aug 02 - 08:38 PM A lovely song, and found quite often in tradition in England, Canada, the USA and Ireland; roughly in that order (Roud Folk Song Index number 987, Laws O15). Completely unrelated to the subject of this thread, however. There are two sets in the DT and one in the Forum: THE GREEN MOSSY BANKS OF THE LEA from Mackenzie's Ballads and Sea Songs From Nova Scotia. THE GREEN MOSSY BANKS OF THE LEA (2) from O'Lochlainn's More Irish Street Ballads. Looking for 'The banks of the Lee' Text and abc of the set recorded by Nic Jones (source unspecified). |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: When First I came into this Country From: GUEST,lajaragirl Date: 13 Oct 03 - 08:10 PM There is another, I heard it in the 70s sung by Jimmy Crowley. When first I came unto this country Twas the flowers of May that did greet me there I then fell courting a pretty female She had hair to me like the Queen mere ....It goes on at legnth, and over the years I have lost one or two verses. Is anyone familier with this song?? |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: When First I came into this Country From: GUEST,Philippa Date: 14 Oct 03 - 02:01 PM you're looking for a very different song, lajaragirl, despite the similarity of the first lines The song you seek is in "Jimmy Crowley's Irish Song Book". I'll type it out tomorrow and give that song it's own thread (if somebody hasn't posted it already) |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: When First I came into this Country From: GUEST,Philippa Date: 15 Oct 03 - 06:53 AM I have typed out the words of the song requested and added it to a thread which includes another version of the same song, O'Reilly from the County Cavan It's a coincidence that the request which begins the thread you are presently reading is for a recording by an Irish band (which specialises in American Old-timey music). The O'Reilly song is very different. As for the American song, I believe I first learned it from a recording by Ian Tyson and Sylvia Fricker, though I also recall Mike Seeger singing it (with autoharp if I recall correctly). As a youngster, I learned many songs from a couple of anthology recordings of folk music, mainly American, issued by Vanguard Records and by Electra ("The Folk Box"). They were a good introduction to a wide spectrum of traditional music. If either of these collections have been re-issued on CD, I'd like to know. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: When First I came into this Country From: GUEST,MMario Date: 15 Oct 03 - 08:56 AM Philippa has sent me the tune for the words she has posted on another thread (see link above) and I will be posting the tune asap. |
Subject: Lyr Add: THE BANKS OF THE BANN (from Voice Squad) From: Mr Happy Date: 15 Oct 03 - 10:20 AM I have a recording of this from The Voice Squad http://www.taramusic.com/sleevenotes/cd4004.htm THE BANKS OF THE BANN When first to this country a stranger I came, I placed my affections on a maid that was young, She being young and tender, her waist was small and slender, Kind Nature had formed her for my overthrow. On the banks of the Bann, where I first beheld her, She appeared like fair Juno or a Grecian queen, Her eyes shone like diamonds, her hair softly twining, Her cheeks were like roses or blood drips in snow. 'Twas her cruel parents that first caused our variance, All because I was poor of a low degree, But I'll do my endeavour to gain my love's favour, Although she is come from a rich family. My name is Delaney, a name that won't shame me, And if I had saved money, I'd have plenty in store, But drinking and courting, night rambling and sporting, Are the cause of my ruin and absence from home. Had I all the money that's in the West Indies, Or had I the gold of the African shore, I would spend it on pearls and on you my brown girl, For there's no other love on this earth I adore. Now since I have gained her I'm contented for life, I'll put rings on her fingers and gold in her ear. We'll live on the banks of the lovely Bann river, And in all sorts of splendour I'll style her my dear. |
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: When First I came into this Country From: GUEST,Philippa Date: 15 Oct 03 - 05:13 PM oh dear, that's yet another song which doesn't bear much resemblance to the American song under discussion in this thread, apart from the first line. Mr Happy's song shares a tune with the hymn "Be Thou My Vision", and can be found elsewhere in this forum and also I think in the DT. I sing "I'll reside with my dear" where Mr Happy has "I'll style her my dear" at the end of the song. and other small difference The "blood drips in snow" I suppose must be a typo for "blood drops in snow", still strange imagery! and the song lajaragirl wants is now on another thread; I provided a link above and MMario has done an abc (thanks,MMario) |
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