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Subject: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: Raggytash
Date: 22 Jul 02 - 06:29 PM

My Tom cat p***ed in my guitar case months ago, for love nor money can I get rid of the stench ..........HELP


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 22 Jul 02 - 06:38 PM

Ragbert, I believe this very subject has been visited recently, but I'm buggered if I can remember the thread name, or even a key word.

Do you drive a lorry with Raggytash emblazoned upon it? If so, it was me waving.

Skipjack


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: Big Mick
Date: 22 Jul 02 - 06:49 PM

First off, kill the cat. A creature of considerable intelligence that is demonstrating this type of malice towards your instruments must not be allowed to roam the earth, and certainly cannot be allowed to breed.

Second, there are any number of products available to deal with this exact problem. Many of them are enzyme based. I have used them and they work. They also take the smell of the dead cat off your hands

Mick


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Jul 02 - 07:47 PM

A friend of mine had a cat that regularly peed in her instrument cases. He also required ear drops on a daily basis. It took my friend a while to figure out that the cat didn't like the ear drops and was peeing in open cases out of spite. This won't solve the problem of cleaning the case, but you may have ticked off your cat. Leave your cases closed. Cats are spiteful.


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: RichM
Date: 22 Jul 02 - 07:50 PM

Toss the case. Get another one. Keep it closed.


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: artbrooks
Date: 22 Jul 02 - 07:57 PM

Agree with RichM, but if your case has a liner you might try replacing it first. I had a cat that pissed in my (in the floor) heating vent...the final solution was to sell the house!


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: GUEST,Charlotte Gilmour (Celticharper1)
Date: 22 Jul 02 - 08:05 PM

Hello =)

Sometimes our *not so friendly* furry pals will do this sort of thing; I agree with previous posts that the cat is upset about something, try to find out what the problem may be and fix it.

In the meantime, I would use "Febreeze" (test a small patch somewhere inconspicuous in the case first to make sure no further damage will be done) if no further damage is forthcoming, "Febreeze" is reasonably priced, readily available and quite effective (lol, I don't make it or sell it, I just use it, and it works wonderfully!) - be sure though, to spray and rub in a bit for full effectiveness, there is an extra strength version, which is what I would get.

Good luck, Sincerely, Charlotte Gilmour


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: katlaughing
Date: 22 Jul 02 - 08:16 PM

Febreeze only covers the smell from human noses, though, in my experience. The cat will still smell the markings and might take an opportunity to cover the Febreeze with "fresh" scent.

I agree with RichM, buy a new case and keep it closed, esp. if you cannot figure out what upset the cat enough to do that.

Mick, awfully hard to see a tongue-in-cheek there, I sure hope that was the case, though, no pun intended.

kat


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 22 Jul 02 - 08:23 PM

Depends on what kind of case you have. If it's plywood with "teddy-bear-fur" lining, rip the lining out and replace it. Fabric stores sell the same stuff. Use the old pieces for templates for cutting the new ones. If its one of those molded thermoplastic things like Martin & Taylor use, throw it out. The foam they are made from will have soaked up kitty's pee-pee like a sponge.


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 22 Jul 02 - 08:31 PM

If it's a gig bag type case, you could probably stick it in the washing machine. That's what we eventually did when one of our cats decided to customise my case just before we went on holiday to Sidmouth. Maybe he wanted to make sure we didn't forget him.

We had to stick it in the corridor outside the room in the boarding house. In the sessions I could sense people backing off when I entered the room.

So I bought a new and better one. Then we tried the washing machine, and it came up a treat, no noticeable smell. So I gave the old one to my son, and he hasn't noticed anything, and his nose is much more sensitive than mine.

Febreeze is pretty good too, though it wouldn't fool a cat, and they can get competitive about stuff like that. "Anything you can do I can do better".

And the other thing is, never leave a gigbag on the floor overnight, if you've a cat.

If it's a hard case, and the cat's got at the inside, that's a hard case indeed. Re-line it? Put it in the Mudcat Auction?


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: GUEST,Febreze
Date: 22 Jul 02 - 08:57 PM

Hello again,

I agree with all of the posters who advise keeping the case closed.

But, just in case you can't afford a new case right now, go ahead and try the Febreze - having used the product since it came out, I can say most definately that original offending odors are gone (if applied correctly, and on an appropriate surface, obviously mattresses and the like aren't as good candidates for the product) as far as us humans are concerned, and in case it's true and *kitty can still tell where he left his mark* leaving the case shut will solve the remainder of the problem.

Good luck, Charlotte


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: Bobert
Date: 22 Jul 02 - 09:05 PM

Where's Fat Freddie when we need him the most? Man, he had all the cat answers, right? Jus' funnin, but it did bring back memories of Fat Freddie's cat (what was that cat's name, anyway?) who had this habit of usin' Fat Freddie's boot fir a catbox (not to be confused with this Catbox, nind you...) Nevermind, as per usual...

Had to be there, I guess...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: Mr Red
Date: 22 Jul 02 - 09:12 PM

Onions can get rid of all sorts of smells
I have heard the chemistry explained but it couldn't hold on to it.
It certainly wasn't the smell alone swamping all others.
If it is inside try putting the sliced onion on a plate and closing the lid.
If it was banjo I would say leave the pesky thing in also. BG
Hang down yer head -- Tom Doodoo...


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 22 Jul 02 - 09:13 PM

Just called Fat Freddy's Cat - and hee he is in all his glory

The main problem was when he used to use the stash as a litter tray, and they had to smoke the shit anyway...


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: Ian Darby
Date: 22 Jul 02 - 09:13 PM

You could try giving it a blast with one of those Vax type vacuum cleaners that circulates water through the fabric then sucks it straight out again.

Steam cleaning might be worth a go, and it would probably do you a world of good if you suffer from sinus problems.

There are also some spray on dry clean aerosols that might work.

It would probably be best to replace the lining with the fabric fluffy stuff as already suggested. (Or cat fur.)

If you do, use a spray on adhesive like the stuff you get for recovering pool tables. If you can't get it locally I can tell you where to find it.

If all else fails, buy a new case, line the old one with fibreglass resin and you'll have the coolest litter tray ever.

You could also train the cat to put the lid down while its using it.


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: X
Date: 22 Jul 02 - 09:13 PM

Fill the old case with Kitty litter and give it to old Tom, than buy a new case.


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: GUEST,One other Suggestion
Date: 22 Jul 02 - 09:17 PM

Lol, I almost forgot, another thing you can try is a spray repellent (after you get rid of the odor of course, if you're able to, by whatever means you choose).

We found out quite by accident that a product called "Lassie" (indoor/outdoor repellent)works wonders, and there are other similar products that all work the same way; anyway, we found out that the cats loathe this stuff (initially you probably won't like it either) the good thing is though, that *you* won't be able to smell it for long, but the cats will, but mind you, if a cat or dog is determined enough, they'll *do their business* anywhere, but . . . for the most part, it works great, true they may just find another spot, but one has to start somewhere.

Once again =) good luck,

=)


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 22 Jul 02 - 09:27 PM

Tough cats see that kind of thing as a challenge to be outdone.

Smelliest cat I ever knew didn't belong to us, but he used to sneak into the kitchen and use our litter tray. You knew he'd been there all right. You knew when he'd just walked through the room.


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: Sorcha
Date: 22 Jul 02 - 09:35 PM

Other things to try:
Nature's Miracle, but it usually only works when the pee is fresh.
Halve and lemon, scoop it out and fill the rind with salt; leave several days.
Mothballs
Fabric softener sheets designed for a dryer--but all they do is semi cover it up.
Aresol cover-ups........must keep repeating application.
Bottom Line--train yourself to close the case.


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: Hagbardr
Date: 22 Jul 02 - 10:29 PM

Have you tried making a baking soda paste, rubbing it in, letting it dry, and then vaccuming it out? Also, here in the States we have a powdered stain remover called Oxy Clean that seems to work well with odours. If that doesn't work, try locking your cat in the case and mailing it to a random address in France.

--Hagbardr


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: SINSULL
Date: 22 Jul 02 - 10:58 PM

A good soaking with Nature's Miracle may have saved it when the stain was fresh. Now - toss it. And keep the new case closed and upright.

I had a 30# cat named Freddie who was banned from two vets' offices for attacking. Got one right in the face after I had warned him to let me take Fred out of the carrier. Finally found one with long leather gloves and a sense of adventure. I do miss old Fred.


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: Sorcha
Date: 22 Jul 02 - 11:20 PM

I forgot activated charcoal, but I don't know how much good it will do.


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 23 Jul 02 - 01:03 AM

If you try to cover the smell, the cat will just think that you're another cat, covering up his possession markings. When toms spray, that's what they're doing (flashback to Red Dwarf where the Cat [humanoid evolved from cats] is going round the ship with an aerosol spray, going "sshhpprrrrp, that's mine... and that. sshhppprrrrrp, all that, except that bit"). Kitty is telling you that although you use it, the case is really his, he just lets you borrow it. And in case you should meet any other cats whilst out with it, he's left his calling card so that any other cat will know you belong to him.

Kitties don't really like citrus smells so try a little orange oil or lemon oil along the edge of the case, or leave some peel in there for a while. That should prevent further 'attacks' once you have de-ponged your case. I would recommend the removal and replacement method. Although there are smell removal products that are very very good, sometimes they just aren't enough.

LTS


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: Chip2447
Date: 23 Jul 02 - 01:55 AM

Kill the cat, use the old case for a coffin, get a dog and a new case. Chip2447(only partially joking here)


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: GUEST,alex
Date: 23 Jul 02 - 02:45 AM

I saw the thread and Fat Freddies Cat jumped into my head, esp the one where Freddie can`t find where he`s crapped and he`s laughing---just wait till he puts his headphones on.

thanks Mcgrath for the blue clicky thing

I`ve got no idea to solve raggytash`s problem - sorry


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: GUEST,Strad
Date: 23 Jul 02 - 03:05 AM

Maaybe you should try lower tension strings on the cat. Perhaps it doesn't like being wound up that tight!


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Jul 02 - 03:30 AM

We took our kit by car to the vet to get "done" about two months ago. On the way there it shat itself & on the way back it pee'd. Long haired cat in loose shat horror - yuk - but the vet took care of that (cat is a little shorter-haired in places).
We have found no solution for the pee-smell. We are trying to dispell it with unsympathetic magic though - crossing our eyes & quoting "damn cats" whenever entering said vehicle.
Not worked yet.....


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: katlaughing
Date: 23 Jul 02 - 04:09 AM

The steam-cleaning thing can work if you get to it as soon as possible and often; it will still smell as it dries. We went from a hardwood floors house to wall-to-wall carpeting (not my choice!) and I thought we were going to have a real problem. We bought one of those quick steamer machines and it has worked really well whenever someone gets territorial or thinks the litter isn't just right. No smells and the carpet is clean. You might be able to rent a hand-held one which might work on your case, but it'd be iffy for getting all the spots.

Oh, and if follow the "final solution" offered by a couple of others, may the deceased come back and haunt you and seven generations after of your progeny.

kat


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: Mr Happy
Date: 23 Jul 02 - 06:00 AM

ol' squeaky used to regularly wee on my hard guitar case.

i just sponged it off and the smell wasn't too untoward.

however, several years of accumulated tom cat wee must have made its way into the catches and out of 4 only one remained working, the others corroded and broke.

i was able to replace some with stronger ones from an old suitcase.

he was a funny old cat, one of the biggest anyone had seen, more like a dog in his behaviour.

besides wee-ing on my case, outside we'd sometimes see him sitting in the grid and doing his business like a 'good cat', straight down the drain!


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 23 Jul 02 - 07:44 AM

Nature's Miracle works wonders. Febreze works, but, quite honestly, I don't like ITS smell. If you throw something in the washer, use a drop (really -- only one or two drops) of anise oil.. Your item will smell of licorice when it comes out of the washer, but it's very effective on cat pee, smoke from a house fire, etc. Lemon grass oil, orange oil, and other citrus oils can be added to water to spray on furniture or instrument cases to discourage cats -- and they smell good.

Linn


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: GUEST,Foe
Date: 23 Jul 02 - 08:43 AM

Had a TV that broke once and took it to the shop for fixing. Man asked if we had a cat. Yes. Does the cat sleep on the TV. Yes. Seems the cat would be so warm and comfy he wouldn't get up to pee, just lay there and let it dribble into the TV. Man said he had TVs with that problem all the time.


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: Allan Dennehy
Date: 23 Jul 02 - 12:03 PM

Skin the cat and make a bodhran out of the hide. I hear there's a serious shortage of bodhran players out there! On a slightly more serious note, if you live in England, have you tried Dettol?


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: Raggytash
Date: 23 Jul 02 - 01:46 PM

Rather fond of the old feline (Spike to his mates) so sending him to the great mouse chase in the sky is not an option. I'm off down the Supermarket to get some Febreeze. Thanks for all your suggestions

Raggytash


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: Big Mick
Date: 23 Jul 02 - 01:55 PM

Kat.............if you can't see the tongue in cheek in that post you need to get a checkup. Of course it was tongue in cheek. I have had cats allowing me to share their space for all of my life. My current master is Esmerelda. She takes care of my need to keep my hands busy by insisting that I pet her in all of my waking moments. But if she pissed in my guitar case...................well.............I am a wild eyed, blood crazed, gun owner..........

Mick
(yes, katmother, that is tongue in cheek.............just in case you couldn't tell.....please don't scold me, it is so embarassing........I'll never get a date....)


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: Les from Hull
Date: 23 Jul 02 - 02:07 PM

I can recommend lemongrass oil to keep Spike away. It works well enough with our Flossie. It's not such a bad small for a guitar case anyway. Well no doubt see you in Whitby, if not before. Don't bring the cat!


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: Dave4Guild
Date: 23 Jul 02 - 02:18 PM

Have you tried changing your repertoire.........?


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: Mrrzy
Date: 23 Jul 02 - 02:24 PM

Line the next one with cat fur, as a lesson?


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: GUEST,EDAN
Date: 23 Jul 02 - 03:26 PM

Rip out the lining. Throw it away. Skin the cat - make new lining with the fur. Cool - customized guitar case, no more cat piss.


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 23 Jul 02 - 05:27 PM

I've never pee'd in a guitar case.....

Squeaky.

(melodeon cases I may make an exception.....)


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: GUEST,Just Amy
Date: 23 Jul 02 - 05:43 PM

I am assuming that you still love your kitty and don't want to do it in. As far as getting rid of the smell, Fabreeze really does work. My very old sick dog pooped in the back seat of the car and Fabreeze took all the smell out completely (well, after I had cleaned it up with heavy duty soap.


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 23 Jul 02 - 08:31 PM

this is another reeson why you shud consider a hamster for a pet, thgey never make any truble.john


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 23 Jul 02 - 09:17 PM

Oh yeah? I got the scars where the bloody school hamster bit me.... Ungrateful thing went and died on the last day of the summer holidays......

LTS


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 23 Jul 02 - 09:25 PM

maybe ypou wake him up Liz, hamsters not like wakieng up, they bite yoo.john


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: Little Hawk
Date: 24 Jul 02 - 10:08 AM

Are you sozzled again, John?

Okay, Raggytash - you've had all the boring, sensible advice, let's go for the WSSBA brand of advice...

Situation: The cat has peed in your guitar case. The case now stinks of cat pee, and the cat is unrepentant.

1. You may deduce that the cat has it in for you. Try to find out why. Admittedly, this may not be easy...cats are complex creatures.

2. Immediately take all other instrument cases and valuable absorbent objects and place them in a locked storage area. A spiteful cat will not stop at peeing in just one guitar case.

3. You need to do something about the smell...now!

4. Procure a live skunk. There are various ways of doing this. Remember that skunks are nocturnal, and plan accordingly.

5. Hold skunk with rear end pointing at open guitar case. Slap skunk across the face. The skunk will now spray your guitar case copiously. You may now release the skunk back into the wilds. You will discover that there is no longer much, if any, perceivable smell of cat urine coming from the guitar case.

6. If you can STILL detect some cat smell from the case, procure a second skunk and repeat steps 4 & 5 above.

7. If skunks are not readily available, an adult billy goat will work fairly well too, although getting him inside the case is difficult, and you will have to keep him inside it for at least 1 hour.

8. All in all, I recommend the skunk technique. It's less rigorous. Billy goats are cantankerous bastards at the best of times.

Good luck!

- LH


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: lady penelope
Date: 24 Jul 02 - 02:02 PM

I blundered in here thinking maybe there was a song in the offing.

I think there should deffinitely be a song in the offing, after reading all the postings.

John, Hamsters pee everywhere, maybe after a while you can't tell the difference............

TTFN M'Lady P.


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 24 Jul 02 - 02:52 PM

My cat like citrus smells she is always there when Im eating an orange but she doesn't like Olbas Oil (menthol,Eucaliptus type smells) I think it makes her eyes water!!!

I suggest you get a new case like others have suggested and keep it shut and out of reach from the cat.

cat


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: katlaughing
Date: 24 Jul 02 - 03:35 PM

Mick, with a name like Esmerelda I'd expect she'd have you enchanted beyond the point of even posting such tongue-in-cheek thoughts! Oh, and about that dating thing? As long as you continue to set your sites on the elusive FAIR ONE, I don't think your chances of any others are very good, however....my claws are in and I'll try not to cuff you anymore.*bg*

katjuststickingupforallcatswhotakethemselvesseriously:-), really!


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: Big Mick
Date: 25 Jul 02 - 02:48 AM

Dammitall, Katdarling, you know the friggin' rules!! You MUST give the obligatory "empty your mouth of all liquids, lest you flood your sinuses" warning before posting this shit.

Yeah, she pretty well has me enchanted and is sitting in my lap giving me that "Sure, Mick, I am SOOOOOO scared" look. This look reminds me of the same look my daughters give me when I rant "I WILL RIP OFF YOUR LIPS, YOU WILL NEVER GET A DATE". They usely chuckle, pat me on my head and say something like "Sure, Dad.   I am sure you will", and then they walk off saying to themselves "Isn't he cute?". I usually grab the maul and go split wood for several days just to get rid of the frustration. Don't these creatures understand how dangerous I am????????????

Mick


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: Mooh
Date: 25 Jul 02 - 10:23 PM

After buying a pawnshop horror guitar which smelled so bad of nicotine and stale booze that it couldn't be kept in the house, I suspended it over the bathtub filled with very hot water and alot of bleech in order to fume the stench away. It worked, but then the bleech left a faint scent which I simple aired away, followed by the baking soda treatment with the guitar in a case.

Smell be gone.

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: Little Hawk
Date: 25 Jul 02 - 10:46 PM

That sounds like a good solution, Mooh, but I would be a bit worried about how the humidity rising off the very hot water might affect the guitar....I guess it worked out okay for you. It should certainly work well on a smelly guitar case, and no danger of serious damage there.

- LH


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: NH Dave
Date: 26 Jul 02 - 12:06 AM

Actually, Little Hawk's suggestion has a lot of merit.

Since it is difficult to get cat smell out of anuthing, borrow the skunk, since as most folks know, tomato juice works wonder with skunk smell.

Once the skunk smell is gone, you will probably find that the cat smell is gone as well.

Dave


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 26 Jul 02 - 05:29 AM

How good is your guitar playing - perhaps your cat is a music lover and trying to tell you something.


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: Mooh
Date: 26 Jul 02 - 07:07 AM

Little Hawk,

Yup, I considered that, but felt it worth the risk. I figured the extra moisture was temporary, and perhaps no worse than a rainy camping trip. I had tried other solutions to no avail, and thought that fuming would be the only safe way of getting the bleech to the instrument. The guitar btw, was an old Harmony Sovereign, which I now keep set up for lap-style, since as a beater it has been replaced by a Simon and Patrick.

Fabreeze (sp?) works with alot of things, but I wonder if there's anything in it to react with instrument finishes. Anyone know?

A professional carpet and upholstery shampoo service could probably do the cat case case (that is, the case of the cat pissing in the case) without any trauma to the case lining. Not being a cat lover, though my kids have one, had it been my case, that case might have become a coffin for wee kitty. Case closed.

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: GUEST,HelenJ
Date: 26 Jul 02 - 10:55 AM

You're lucky mate. I have two beautiful British Blues - one of which/whom likes to give me a wake-up call when he thinks it's time for me to get up, by weeing very deliberately on my bed. Never does it when I'm not there - only when I'm in it. Can't work him out. I must have the most washed bedding in the country. The vet has given some tabs to try to eliminate the problem. We shall see. He also once weed in my accordion case so I have to tell my musically minded friends who call, to shut their cases immediately. You must admit, they do resemble litter trays - in a way!

HelenJ.


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 26 Jul 02 - 11:14 AM

My cat Mortimer absolutely loathes the smell of lavender (or any hand cream I've ever tried including cocoa butter) and will run away from anything (including me!) that smells of it. Sabine, on the other hand, doesn't seem to notice if I'm wearing lavender or not.

Linn


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 27 Jul 02 - 06:17 AM

My cat has p****d in my guitar case
And then done a c**p on the floor
A "whoopsie" he's done in by beret
Betty I can't take any more!

(collaberative efort by Frank Spencer & 'Bonny')


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: Charley Noble
Date: 27 Jul 02 - 05:46 PM

I'm glad someone raised the question of what might happen to the guitar finish after you have applied Fabreeze, nitric acid, and boron laced N-fuel coolant. Some of those solutions might bleach whatever part of the guitar they come in contact with.

In terms of appropriate (or inappropriate songs) one can't do better (or worse) than this one by Anon.(copy & repaste into WORD/TIMES/12):

I'm Gonna Drown Me Cat
ANON
(From Nova Scotian singer-songwriter Vince Morash – 11/11/95 Tune English Traditional: "All Around My Hat")

C--------G--------C-----F/C------G-----G7
I'm gonna drown me cat, or-r smother it with a pillow,
----------C---G----G7-C------F-C-----D------G
It's pissed all a-round me flat, and it's gonna have to pay;
----G7---------C--------F----------------G
But I'm not in-to cruelty, so when I'm done dis-secting it,
---C-----G------C-------F-G-G7C
I'm gonna send the pieces to the S–PCA.

So fare ye well, wee puss, ye've piddled once too often,
I'm off to buy a dog, who's good and well behaved;
Ye never discriminated, the place where ye urinated,
So "Rest in Pee" shall be the epitaph on yer grave.

To get ye potty trained, I've struggled till me strength,
Just like yer bladder drained – over walls, rugs and chairs;
Yer metabolism's booming, ye produce more than ye're consuming,
It's really quite beyond belief – so-o, pussy, say yer prayers.

I'm gonna buy a bat, made of the finest willow,
I'll put ye out with that, end me troubles with one blow;
But I pity poor St. Peter, for when he comes to greet ye,
Ye'll wait till he's not looking, then ye'll piss through his halo!

Of course I'd never sing this ditty, especially while I'm sitting here with a long-haired calico in my lap. She doesn't even know I'm familar with such macabre songs...YIKES!!!


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: Mooh
Date: 27 Jul 02 - 08:28 PM

Mr. Noble,

Sir, that's very funny indeed! Our little celtic band used to play AAMH regularly, and it was often satirized/parodied/lampooned in practice.

I wonder if there's something about it (and other songs) which makes it more accessible to parody. Thoughts anyone?

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: Art Thieme
Date: 28 Jul 02 - 11:50 AM

When young visiting my old uncle's farm, his pigs ate my roses.

I took it as a sign and stayed an urban guy.

"And that has made all the difference."

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: Genie
Date: 28 Jul 02 - 10:24 PM

Charley N.,
Re drowning cats and "well-behaved" dogs, let me say that my mom and dad's dog tried to eat my entire guitar case a few years ago.  She was in that chew-everything-in-sight stage, and she chewed my glasses, chewed and ruined my dad's hearing aid, ate several garden hoses, and chewed the heck out of my cloth-covered hard shell guitar case.  (It's a darn good thing I never left the guitar unguarded on a lawn chair for a few minutes!)

Genie


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Jul 02 - 10:46 PM

Yes! I can never fathom why people go on and on about cats, when dogs do a hundred times the property damage, the filthy beasts! They have no scruples whatsoever. They're loud, clumsy, neurotic, intefering, smelly, incontinent extroverts with a penchant for rolling in manure and carrion. They are frequently paranoid and sometimes even dangerous. They are lascivious, low-minded, and vile. They lack subtlety, and don't know when it's time to get lost.

Hmmm...sounds like I'm describing the patrons of most of the seedier bars in Orillia...

Cats rule cos cats are cool and they ain't no fools!

Merow! Ftttt!

- LH


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 29 Jul 02 - 02:01 AM

I agree. None of my cats have ever stuffed their noses into anyone's crotch. Armpits, maybe..... crotch, not to my knowledge....

(althought there was that evening when Max was lying on my lap and wanted to find the crisp I dropped.....)

LTS


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: Genie
Date: 29 Jul 02 - 03:13 AM

Well, I guess I'm "bispecies-al," as I like both cats and dogs (though I'm partial to cats, partially because they fit my lifestyle better).

Genie


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: GUEST,Ely at Mom's
Date: 29 Jul 02 - 11:04 PM

I hope the cat was at least neutered. I work in a vet's office--I get peed on by intact tomcats all the time. It didn't bother me too much until I got a new car and now I'm afraid it will rub off.

My dog thinks it's great, though, when I come home reeking of other people's animals. I'm a cat person at heart but Mom won't live with litterboxes again so I have a dog (a spitz--clean, stubborn, willful, and independent, not entirely unlike a cat).


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Subject: RE: Help: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Jul 02 - 12:39 AM

Why should she live with litterboxes? Most cats can easily be trained at an early age to go outside...or are you in an apartment?

- LH


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Subject: RE: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: GUEST,joseph
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 11:01 AM

Try Febreeze on the case, a wood chipper should work nicely on the cat.


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Subject: RE: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 01:22 PM

No more indoor cats for me. I inherited my last one from a relative and the creature has finally shuffled off this mortal coil. I've had this happen with a pile of laundry waiting to go in the washer, with an open cornet case and in a guest closet. God may have put cats on the earth, but the devil infiltrated their heads and infested their urinary tracts.

When I travel, I no longer have to worry about who's going to feed Beelzebub. I don't have cat hair on my clothes and furniture, I have no damage from scratching and I have zero veterinary bills. I don't spend money on cat food and kitty litter. This is a definite improvement in my situation.

By the way, that's a great title for a song...


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Subject: RE: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: open mike
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 02:47 PM

it would be ok if the missing letters were urr
i would much rather have a cat purr in my case than piss in it.

and it makes a difference if it is actually pee or
if it is male cat spray

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/958/whats-up-with-cat-spray

be thankful you do not have a pet hippo!


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Subject: RE: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: Barbara
Date: 07 Oct 09 - 06:36 PM

OVERFLOWING CAT BOX BLUES
(Jane Robinson)

First I must mention the lack of attention:
Here I am wasting away. (it's awful)
Why did you get me if you won't pet me
Seventeen hours a day? I ask you
What is this crap when I sit on your lap?
I expect a devoted masseuse;
I got those `Nobody loves me, nobody feeds me
Overflowin' cat box blues.

Now I have grown gaunt from privation and want
But catfood I don't deign to take (how gauche)
But I could connive to completely revive
When you give-a me half of your steak (done rare)
I'll sit and I'll beg with my claws in your leg
Until you concede what I'm due;
I got those `Nobody loves me, nobody feeds me..
Overflowin' cat box blues.

Hey, I don't deserve this lousy door service:
I'm always on the wrong side. You know this
Prancing and yowling, moaning and growling
Works, but it hurts a cat's pride. So I'll just
Claw and I'll spray till the door rots away
And leaves me a hole to pass through;
I got those `Nobody loves me, nobody feeds me...
Overflowin' cat box blues.

Say, whenever I go for the bed or the sofa
You always shoo me away. (How rude!)
You say I get hair on the fabric of chairs
That offends your pristine derriere. Well now if
I can't repose where I want, I suppose, I'll
Throw up where you most like to snooze;
I got those `Nobody loves me, nobody feeds me..
Overflowin' cat box blues.

Well, you ought to know when a cat's got to go
That you owe her a spotless commode. (Let's hear it)
Why should I squat on the same soggy spot
Right on top of three weeks worth of load? Now really!
If I were a grouch I would piss on the couch,
But instead I have pissed in your shoe;
I got those `Nobody loves me, nobody feeds me...
Overflowin' cat box blues.

Since you have spayed me nobody's laid me -
I'm all neurotic and tense - it's true now -
Kneading and mewing is all that I'm doing
And not wooing toms on the fence. Don't think that
I've become bitter because I can't litter
No, but I've lost a few screws;
I got those `Nobody loves me, nobody feeds me
Overflowin' cat box blues.
I got those `Nobody loves me, nobody feeds me
Overflowin' cat box blues.


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Subject: RE: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: breezy
Date: 08 Oct 09 - 05:39 AM

resist the temptation to busk in a field full of cows


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Subject: RE: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: kendall
Date: 08 Oct 09 - 06:21 AM

Most instrument cases make nice coffins for cats.


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Subject: RE: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: Peace
Date: 08 Oct 09 - 02:45 PM

Great minds . . . I was gonna ask when the funeral would take place.


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Subject: RE: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Oct 09 - 05:40 PM

And if you have a pet cougar, then you can use the hardshell case for an acoustic double bass as his coffin....you can stuff him in quite nicely prior to rigor mortis setting in.

Which brings to mind a story I heard. There was a guy in New York City whose dog died. He discovered that the vet would dispose of the body, but only for a hefty fee, so he got an old suitcase he didn't want and stuffed the dog inside...went down in the elevator from his 16th floor highrise apartment...put the suitcase down by the bus stop...turned his back on it for a brief minute while "buying the paper", turned back around and....PRESTO!

Suitcase gone. Problem solved. ;-)


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Subject: RE: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: Gurney
Date: 09 Oct 09 - 12:16 AM

Just in the case? You lucky devil!
Our cat sprayed on my guitar, which was leaning against the wall, and managed to get a plentiful sufficiency through the soundhole.
It took about six months before I could bear to play it.

I think it was an aerosol of eucalyptus 'pillow-spray' that took the final (to my nose) traces away. You wouldn't believe the things that I sprayed in there! Good job it isn't an expensive instrument.
The guitar is now stored high. But it was once "higher.'

Neutered cats usually spray because they are feeling the tension of an interloper in their territory.


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Subject: RE: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 09 Oct 09 - 02:11 AM

There is a product named 'Odoban' (look it up)..it works! Professional kennels use it, I've used it, and it completely destroys the odors. It costs only about $10.00 a gallon, and you can dillute it, spray it into the air, or in your case, directly into the case(I'd go full strength)..and the odor is gone....RIGHT NOW!


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Subject: RE: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: Silas
Date: 09 Oct 09 - 04:38 AM

You need some zeolites, but just where you can get them I don't know.


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Subject: RE: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: breezy
Date: 09 Oct 09 - 01:33 PM

or a 'fur vent'

!!!


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Subject: RE: My Cat has p****ed in my guitar case
From: kendall
Date: 09 Oct 09 - 01:59 PM

That guy didn't think much of his dog to let some thief dispose of it.


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