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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: GUEST,guest, david
Date: 15 Jun 08 - 05:25 AM

have a tama tw-09, bought brand new, 1978

we've been around the world several times, my tama and i, and despite the battering it has sustained it still plays briliantly and suits me fine

if you've got one - hang onto it, or if you don't want it, let me know and i'll give it a good, loving home


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: GUEST,Beaz750
Date: 18 Apr 08 - 12:52 AM

And I have a TAMA.   Found in a thrift store for $175 about a year ago. It looks like a Martin D-45. with abaloney inlay in the neck and around all sides. Sounds wonderful...the neck needed ajusting but there was something not right with the trussrod. Took it to Fatdog in Berkeley and in less than 10 minutes he said "you don't know how good of a guitar this is" more that 8 times (he sold them in the 70's)...I knew I had a winner.   New truss rod and I now have a beautiful Tama 3558-S. Not a Martin D-45 but soooooo close. I will exchange pics if anyone is interested...
Did I say matching Brazilian rosewood????

beaz750@aol.com

Jerry


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: GUEST,GUEST, April C.
Date: 13 Feb 08 - 12:44 PM

Hi, I know nothing about guitars. I bought one in 2003 to take guitar lessons, but didn't follow through. It's a Tama in perfect condition to my eyes. There are 3 sets of numbers inside. 74041160
3548   and 45. I am looking to sell it and need some information about the value of it. I can find hardly anything about Tamas. A little help please? Thanks


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: GUEST,Stuart
Date: 05 Feb 08 - 07:17 AM

Well guys the Tree of Life has a new home now.She was shipped off to Paris,France.Still have the older 3566 tho she is a real delight.She has served me well and never had a problem with her.I have replaced the nut and bridge with a tusq replacement.The neck is as true as the day she was made.She sounds better than most guitars I have heard.


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: GUEST,Steve M.
Date: 24 Jan 08 - 08:44 AM

I have an oldie plane jane...wouldn't trade it for the world. Bought it in the seventies new and have been playing it ever since. Not sure of the model...but the sound has only gotten better. Can put it away for a couple of months and then pick it up and it is still in tune!


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: GUEST,Stuart
Date: 10 Jan 08 - 01:02 PM

I have two Tama guitars,they were well built.One is a 3566 model.The other is the top of the range 3563 tree of life.They are both around the same vintage being 74-76.They are great guitars,I believe that Slim Whitman used one for many years.
haggardfan@hotmail.co.uk


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: GUEST,Guest, Kirk, FL
Date: 20 Nov 07 - 11:26 PM

To: Guest, Wenny, N.Y.: Wenny did you sell your guitar?? What model is it??


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: GUEST,Matt Snowball
Date: 17 Nov 07 - 07:34 PM

I have a TAMA 3555 that my father bought new in the 70s. It's been on loan to me for the past 20 years. It sounds fantastic and I wouldn't change it for any Gibson , Martin, or Taylor. So bright & full.


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: GUEST,Ghazza in NZ
Date: 06 Aug 07 - 06:34 AM

Hey all....

I have just recieved a gift from a friend an old guitar, dust covered, broken strings and dull looking... but now that i have cleaned and polished her up, had new strings and fully tuned it she is a very rich toned amazing sounding TAMA Guitar!!! The shop that tuned it where amazed also at the sound she produces!!! ...it appears to be very well built with alot of 'Mother of Pearl' and 'Paua' featured into the craftsmanship, also beautiful rich graining wood which i think is Rosewood on the back, sides and fingerboard.

The label on it reads....
Ray Durant LUTHIER 'Exact Replica' Dreadnought 1970 and it also has the following addresses on label...
Ray Durant Ste, 12 Rue La Vieuville, Paris 12e, France
Durant Sales Inc. 302 4TH AVE. NEW YORK, NY
Inside the guitar is stamped 3558P and also TAMA, SEISAKUSHO CO. AICHI, JAPAN.

What i thought was just a dirty old guitar that i didnt know was worth fixing or not for me to learn to play on seems to be a peice of precision instruments that has its own high place in history...

Cheers and looking forward to playing this little classic acoustic even more so now!!!!

Ghazza


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: GUEST,Juergen
Date: 15 Jun 07 - 04:29 AM

Hello to you all. If you need informations about your TAMA guitar please have a look at my site http://freenet-homepage.de/hufschlag
I have collected a lot of information and will add some more from time to time.

Be happy with your TAMA!

Juergen


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: Grimmy
Date: 23 May 07 - 08:50 AM

Wenny, I recommend you try this site.


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: GUEST,Wenny, NY
Date: 22 May 07 - 03:08 PM

I had bought in 1971 Tama (Japan) acoustic steel string price then apx $1000.00. It is in excellent shape and does have a liftime guarantee. I want to sell this guitar. Any ideas what my Tama is worth? I cant find anything for price listing online. ThanX


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: GUEST,Lawrence Moore
Date: 24 Apr 07 - 09:37 AM

Hi Everyone,
Well I don't know if my 'new' (very old) guitar is a TAMA or not.. It's actually a solid-body electric guitar badges as a Ray Durant, but it looks suspiciously like Vantage brand guitars from the mid '70s. Could it be that Tamas, Vantages and Ray Durants all came from the same Japanese factory (probably Matsumoku) and just had different labels applied? I might have to remove the glued-on Ray Durant label to see what lies beneath.. There are no markings in the body cavities.


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: GUEST,Bob Long
Date: 12 Apr 07 - 04:19 PM

I bought my TAMA early in the 70's. I have the 3558S, (which has the full TAMA name on top of the guitar)and it looks as good now as when I first purchased it. The sound is better(in my opinion) because of the aging of the wood. To my discredit I kept her in the case for long periods because she is gorgeous and I wanted her to stay that way. But the sound, the looks, the neck, the total package made it worth the $800 I paid for it. I have been offered twice that for it and declined the offer. I have added a Barcus-Berry pickup to the bridge and it sounds wonderful through an acoustic or regular amplifier (I use a Marshall AS-100 and a Peavey Renown). If anybody out there knows how to "read" the serial number please contact me at jab_long@yahoo.com. Thanx C'YA


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: GUEST,WillF
Date: 10 Apr 07 - 11:52 AM

I have a Tama 3555p with the P meaning it has a laminate top. I have had it for about eight years but it looks like it has had a rough life as it was a bar band guitar that has seen many Saturday night gigs. It is the guitar I am learning to play on this paast year and my more experienced friends love the tone on this thing. Most of the issues are cosmetic so I will enjoy having this rare instrument. If I was to part with it it would only be to perhaps have a guitar with less scratches. Sound wise it may be tough to compare.


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: Little Robyn
Date: 12 Feb 07 - 02:37 AM

That should be NZ and Robyn. I should have turned the light on sooner!
Robyn


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: Little Robyn
Date: 11 Feb 07 - 01:15 PM

Someone must have brought in a 'job lot' because, for a rare guitar, there were quite a lot in little ol' MZ.
Eobyn


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: Kiwi.in.OZ
Date: 11 Feb 07 - 07:00 AM

I also am lucky to have purchased new (in NZ) a Tama guitar in 1974, badged as a Ray Durant. I play it regularly and it continues to amaze me with its exceptional rich tone. Solid spruce top, rosewood back and sides and mother-of-pearl inlay all over. I understand these were a very high quality copy of Martin who sued Tama successfully resulting in the stopping of production.
I would recommend these guitars to anyone fortunate enough to find one.


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: GUEST,megababe
Date: 02 Nov 06 - 05:58 PM

i think tama are shitty. guitars make nioses. i got one that broke as soon as i unwraped it. cool!


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: GUEST,DK
Date: 02 Nov 06 - 02:57 PM

After much thought I am selling my Tama Guitar, TG-135 (original owner). Info and pics are on Craigs List for New Hampshire. If anyone's interested, please let me know. Thanks, David http://nh.craigslist.org/msg/


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: GUEST,Guest, George
Date: 03 Jun 06 - 08:13 PM

Finally got around to googling Tama. Been happy with the results as I've never known the pedigree of my Tama, TW-07. I bought it new, May 22,1981, from the Sound Hole in Spokane Wa. as a factory second for $295 but it listed for $465. There was a crack on the back that was repaired internally with diamond buttons. It has been a very stable guitar and I had the neck adjusted and action lowered a few years back and it still sounds and plays great. Since it was a second I've not worried about it getting banged up and it has taken the occasional too much beer abuse. I spun my Pinto station wagon once in the snow and the guitar, in a hard case, popped the hatch and ended up out in the road. I'm in Montana at three thirty in the morning and I'm laughing at myself and then this log truck comes by and I'm all scattered out in the road. The driver yells at me in this New York accent to get my ass off the road. Bizarre.

The guitar still plays like the day I bought it if not a little better. I'd like to hear how it sounds miked up though.


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: Little Robyn
Date: 24 Apr 06 - 05:40 PM

I've just checked my little Tama - the Ray Durant and can't find any model number - just the name.
So I googled the name and found an old Blues/Jazz pianist who died more than 20 years ago.
Are there any other Ray Durants who played guitar?
Why would he have a special model named for him?
It does say 'Japan specially made' on the label but it also suggests Ray Durant was the luthier and his address was in Paris, France and there was a sales/distribution company in New York?????
So did Tama do contract work for other guitar makers?
Robyn


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: GUEST,wteague@sport.rr.com
Date: 22 Apr 06 - 11:15 PM

I have a Tama 3601 which I bought new in 1974. It's very difficult to find any information about this guitar. If anyone has an idea about the value or other information please let me know.......Bill


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: GUEST,smackjackie@gmail.com
Date: 17 Apr 06 - 08:16 PM

Got your back!

http://people.freenet.de/hufschlag/html/tama_main.html


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: GUEST,John M
Date: 14 Apr 06 - 10:35 PM

I have a Tama TM200 model, that I recieved as a gift from my Mom and Dad I think around 1975. It has the stlized T at the top and tree of life inlay up the neck. It still sounds great but goes out of tune fairly easily. Is anybody out there familiar with this model or does anyone else have one? - would like some more info!!??


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: GUEST,Richard
Date: 08 Feb 06 - 01:58 PM

Third owner of a TM106. Met original owner who says bought in 1980 for what he thought was $800. Was kind enough to give me the original brochure. Still regrets letting it go as has several gutiats since but considers this the best one he everhad. Sound compares favourably to Martins & Gibsons played by friends. Mellow & rich & a joy to play. Also have Yamaha,Fender, Wasburn & Crafter but will never part with the Tama which will be my grandson's some day.


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: GUEST,lefty fred
Date: 02 Feb 06 - 09:54 AM

I think I have the only left handed TAMA 3560 in existance. If anyone knows of another one please post a reply.
                                       FRED


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: GUEST,Alex
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 03:28 AM

go here to see a Tama TG-80-12 on ebay right now

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Tama-TG-80-12-String-Acoustic-Guitar_W0QQitemZ7357098984QQcategoryZ2385QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

first in best dressed


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: GUEST,David Masterson
Date: 01 Oct 05 - 03:11 PM

HEY Tama players, I have one for you. I have a 12 string that is older than anything metioned so far. My brother gave me this guitar that he bought in Wheatridge Colorado between 1968 and 1970 when we were teenagers. The numbers on the inside are 4990698 and under that number is 3557-12. Rosewood back, light spruce top, mother of pearl, etc.. Not over fancy, just absolutely beautiful, and I am still playing it, stays in tune, and best of all, the sound( as far as my ear goes...) is better than anything I have played in any quitar shop, anywhere, at any price!

I absolutly think this is one of the great guitars ever, and I am delighted to see so many others with Tama guitars. I have told people about mine( I also have a 6 string Tama..TM-107 ...) and the normal response from guitar people is " I don't think Tama ever made guitars!! Well I have two beauties to prove them wrong.

We should have a convention or something for Tama Guitar owners. Get together with each other and " show off our stuff" and play a few tunes together.


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: GUEST,Chris
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 01:02 PM

For the past five years I have been the lucky owner of a tama 12 string guitar. My then girl friend/now wife bought this off of her step-dad who was the origonal owner. In the past few years, I have moved more to a classical style of guitar, and haven't picked up my Tama for a long time. Instead of letting it waste away, I want to send it to a good home who will take good care of it.

It is a 3560-12 Rosewood Deluxe mother-of-pearl inlay.

As I said I'm the second owner of the guitar, and it's in great condition. I have taken some pictures of it, and can take more if need be. I'll ship anywhere as long as you pay for it. If you are intersted in this please shoot me an e-mail at spendel gmail dot com. (Sorry don't want spam).

Thanks much,
Chris


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: GUEST,PB on a cookie diet
Date: 19 May 05 - 10:38 PM

I would think it's 3559 The model number.

the link above you goes to a reference for different models, although there's not much on the 3559 my own TAMA is the 3563 there's a picture on the previously mentioned site and the details are:-


Model 3563

Well-seasoned, finest close-grained genuine solid spruce top

Simulated pearl inlays around the top and sound hole

Hand-shaped mahagony neck for ease in playing

Rich genuine selected, matched Indian rosewood back and sides

Vintage vine designed pearl inlay on highly ebonized fingerboard

Gold plated SMOOTH TUNER machine heads for precise tuning


cheer

PB


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: GUEST,Craig - car7x@yahoo.com
Date: 19 May 05 - 09:38 PM

I have a jam buddy with a killer Tama, plain jane. On the merits of his guitar I started searching ebay. After picking up a nice journeyman BC Rich (a great mahogany / spruce econo D18) and watching a apparently nice, but plain, Tama out of Canada not reach it's reserve several times, I slapped down a $480 max on this other one from a pawn shop with zero feedback and hit the trout stream. Came home that night and I'd bought it for 400, 418 delivered insured!.

It came 2 days ago and it is an incredible guitar. Totally pimped, which I didn't anticipate. Solid rosewood matched sides and back. Spruce top. Mahogany neck. Now for the bling: Rosewood laminate headstock veneer with an "S" either side of the "T" in the vertical "TAMA" on the headstock - all lettering in MOP or Abalone. Tortoise shell truss rod cover. Black plastic pickguard. MOP / Aba binding EVERYWHERE: Around the soundhole, neck butt, both sides of every 90 degree seam on the body, top, back and sides. Rosewood board with MOP / Aba parallelogram markers, appears to be ivory bound.

Virtually unplayed. Incredibly bright, loud, sustained and balanced, with low, fast and buzz free action. It has either 8559 or 3559 stamped inside on the neck butt, and a serial number on the brace north of the sound hole.

I have an old Martin I bought new, a CAGuitars x body, a handbuilt Applegate, #15, (James Olson protege) - some nice guitars, and I've played some other very expensive units and this guitar compares no excuses. It's a $2000 - 3000 plus guitar. Name your price type deal.

I sure would like to chat with other Tama owners and learn more about these great axes and would appreciate any info on this one. Thanks


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: PennyBlack
Date: 24 Feb 05 - 09:48 PM

TAMA - clicky thingy


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: GUEST,Laurie
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 09:53 PM

Wonderful to find discussion on Tama guitars. I believe the later Tamas circa 77-78 are all solid wood, beautiful tone.

Tama had some info on their website a few years ago but took it down, I had downloaded it but have lost the copy. I beleive they stopped making them because of legal difficulties being that they are supposedly a Martin replica.

I bought mine (first guitar) in 1988 second hand for NZ$400. It has aged beautifully, the top is now a deep golden orange. Rosewood bookmatched back with inlaid centre strip, rosewood sides, herringbone binding, just stunning. I think mine is a 3567, I will have to check. Havent played it for a year or so.


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: GUEST,music.man@gmx.net
Date: 13 Feb 05 - 03:12 PM

I have a 3558S which I bought at the Frankfurt Music Fair 1975. It was one of ten exhibition models they had at the booth and I paid 1200 DM including the original hard case. For the poor student I was at that time a lot of money but it was a really good investment. The guitar accompanied me for many years and I still play it today. It looks great although it has some minor reminders of a long life. As my ears get worse its difficult to evaluate but I think it sounds better than ever. It carries the serial no. T304D690.

I'm getting into nylon guitars now since my finger joints get painful when I play heavy steel strings.
Should somebody be seriously interested and make me a good offer I might consider to sell the Tama guitar. Well, at least I'd send you a photo.


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: GUEST,Guest - RWW
Date: 04 Jan 05 - 02:03 AM

I've had a Tama 3568 for about 30 years. Bought it new in early 70s for $625 Canadian. It is a lovely instrument, (just been messing about for the last half hour or so on it.) It plays beautifully with a great neck. The tone is gorgeous, brilliant and rich. The workmanship is excellent. No laminate, solid hardwood throughout. Mine has the tree of life up the neck, and herringbone inlay around the outside and soundhole. I have never played another acoustic I thought was better, and I looked around for a while before settling on it.


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: Little Robyn
Date: 03 Jan 05 - 05:01 PM

I have one of those - I understand the company made a few lines with names of guitarists (so who is/was Ray Durant?) and that they made about 100 of each model.
I paid about $100(NZ) for mine, second-hand, about 1978.
Mine is the small size - possibly like a Martin 00, but it's not sounding so good at present. Maybe a new set of strings?
Robyn


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: GUEST,Dan Tohill
Date: 03 Jan 05 - 04:57 AM

So much dicussion about Tama guitars its great. I saw on e in a shop about 15 years ago and was really impressed, it had a brass "Ray Durant" badge on the headstock, actutally covering the Tama logo, not sure what this was all about. Well I finally got to own one when one came up on an Auction site late last year. It has a screw hole either side on the Tama logo and Ray Durant, Luthier inside the sound hole printed on the label. So it probably also had the brass badge on the headstock. Sounds amazing I keep it at work. If you can find one I'd highly recommend buying it.


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: GUEST,Dan Tohjill
Date: 03 Jan 05 - 04:49 AM


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: GUEST,dobrodave@hotmail.com
Date: 29 Dec 04 - 03:07 PM

I've got a Tama 3560s, it was the top of the line when I bought it back in 1973. Its like a Martin D45 and sounds equally as good. I wouldnt sell it for less than £1000.00 and I have been offered it on more than one occasion. No I'm not a chump, I just appreciate a superb guitar when I see one. If you've got one then hang on to it. I have never seen another one of this model although they are out there. They were named after the wife of the guy that owned the Suzuki guitar Company I think. They got into hot water back then because they were a repica rather than just a copy. Sitka spruce top , Jacaranda rosewood back and sides (laminate). Gold plated machines, ebont neck. Just quality built. Happy playing. I also own 3 other Martins, a Lowden and Fylde instruments, but still love my Tama.


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: PennyBlack
Date: 17 Dec 04 - 07:56 PM

I'll have to dig mine out again and double check whether its a Model 3563 or the Model 3568! it's been too long since I played it..

It was/is a nice guitar to play though, with a nice balanced sound. Not bad for a drum company - there was a review in the UK guitarist mag about 3 years ago which gave them quite a good review.

PB


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: Inükshük
Date: 17 Dec 04 - 06:51 AM

I was poised to buy a Martin a couple of years ago, but this Tama 3566 came up for $250 (Canadian - case included). I scooped it immediately. One of the best deals of my life. Very handsome instrument, great sound, and this one had been played very little, if at all.


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Dec 04 - 05:57 PM

I did a session on the Capstick show a few years ago and I remember him telling me that he used to play a Tama when he saw the one I played that day.

I've been playing my Tama for the last 15 years or so. It's been re-fretted once but still sounds as fresh as the day I bought it. It's about time I got my sodding Martin though!!


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: GUEST,gary brown
Date: 16 Dec 04 - 05:10 PM

i just bought a 3555 today for 150.00 candian - about 120. us
sounds good , plays well . didn't know tama even existed. was looking for a jamming guitar so that my martin wouldn't get beat up.

solid wood top for sure - don't know about back and sides- looks like
rosewood. don,t know if laminate or solid. maybe someone can help me
here.

email gbrown@mts.net

gary


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: PennyBlack
Date: 15 Dec 04 - 02:12 PM

Now that was the site I'd lost!

PB


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Dec 04 - 10:34 AM

I have the best TAMA link I could find with picture from what appears to be Tama's sales brochure with wood description and the like. the ads are in english but the sight is in germAN. click guitarren and then Tama on the header. I have a 3558 and am the envy of anyone whom I have let touch it. NOT REPLACEABLE AT LESS THAN $2,000 and you might still get screwed. I tried to buy a jumbo larrivee so I could put it away for a few years. Well... I did buy one. Although comparative in sound (which they shouldnt be by a long shot, the jumbo being a JUMBO for god's sake) I enjoy the size and cannon like sound i Get from the pre-ban brazilian rosewood SOLID back and sides. Paid $1300 for the j-09 larrivee on ebay.

Gl. if anyone has a Tama for let me know for sure! take away the nospam and email me at nospamwavesandfrets@hotmail.com to swap pics and make trades of cash or other valuables. http://home.t-online.de/home/pjs.hufschlag is your link.

Best, Philip


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: GUEST,kab907
Date: 12 Dec 04 - 12:39 AM

i have a tama and i love it still sounds better then any guitar i have played.


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 19 Jul 04 - 04:16 AM

I remember Tama made drums as well and Tony Capstick played one for a while in the 70's at least. it didn't register with me what he was playing last time i saw him.

I didn't know Derek's was a Tama.


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: GUEST,Fred in Denver
Date: 18 Jul 04 - 11:39 PM

I have an absolutly perfect TG 120 that I bought new in Boulder, Colorado about 1980. I was looking to buy another guitar, but when I played the 120, nothing else sounded as good in its class. It has a rich, full, and round sound and is a pleasure to play. I am disappointed that they quit making them in favor of the lower end Ibanez guitars.

Does anyone know why they quit making the Tama guitar?


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Subject: RE: Tama Guitar
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Jul 03 - 11:32 PM


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