Help: Wave Splitting Program

Subject: Help: Wave Splitting Program
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Jul 02 - 09:01 AM

Need program to split long wave files recorded from entire side of LP or CAS via sound card & convert to individual song files on HD!
[prior to burning to CD]

Not concerned about pops & other noise as they are mostly from near mint sources!

Subject: RE: Help: Wave Splitting Program
From: nickp
Date: 29 Jul 02 - 09:16 AM

Currently doing the same via Creative's Wave Studio using cut and paste to a new wav. So slow but it works!! I imagine all the wav editors will do the same. It would be great if you could just insert a 'track mark' instead. Maybe someone will come up with some free/shareware that does just that.

Good luck and hang onto the patience and sanity!

Subject: RE: Help: Wave Splitting Program
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 29 Jul 02 - 09:32 AM

I got a free one called wavesplitter from the net, but it kept on making mistakes (the newer version might work better). I found it much easier to use Goldwave, and split them by hand, so to speak. It doesn't take long.

Subject: RE: Help: Wave Splitting Program
From: nickp
Date: 29 Jul 02 - 10:00 AM

have downloaded wavesplitter 1.2 - hopefully will try it out tonight and report

Subject: RE: Help: Wave Splitting Program
From: IvanB
Date: 29 Jul 02 - 12:20 PM

If the Wavesplitter program mentioned above is that of Claudiosoft (mine is version 2.10, btw), I found it rather tedious to use, since I had to move back and forth in the sound file to mark splitting positions, and each track must be split separately. I find a wave editing program with a visual representation of the waveform much quicker, because the silent portions between tracks are visually evident. Still have to do each track individually, but selecting and saving is much faster.

If anyone has large MP3 files to split into individual tracks, there's a handy addon to Winamp, called Mp3 TrackMaker, that I've found very handy. With this program, times can be entered with a mouse click as the source file is played, then, once all tracks have been timed, the program will create separate files for the tracks, leaving the source file intact. MP3 TrackMaker is found here:

MP3 TrackMaker

I note that the program has been made shareware, with a $13 US registration fee. If anyone wants, I still have version 1.2 which was free. The file is only 68K, so if you email me requesting it, I'd be glad to send it to you. The only significant advantage I see to the shareware version is its use of CUE files, something I don't use anyway. Mail me at:

Ivan Bradley's Email

And, if you don't have Winamp, it's here:

Winamp

Subject: RE: Help: Wave Splitting Program
From: GUEST,Spike
Date: 29 Jul 02 - 01:14 PM

You COULD of course use Cool Edit pro (its not for me to say WHERE you get it from Ahem!!!) and tell it to look for silences!! If you have a fairly nippy p.c. (I,m running a 2.0ghz amd) then its all pretty quick!! Cheers!!!

Subject: RE: Help: Wave Splitting Program
From: Grampus
Date: 29 Jul 02 - 04:21 PM

FWIW I use CakeWalk Pyro which, although quirky, amongst other useful things, splits and handles large wave files OK. This can be downloaded from their website - Cakewalk.com/Products/Pyro (current cost $29). However, if I want to do more with them, I then use Creative's Wave Studio.

G.

Subject: RE: Help: Wave Splitting Program
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 29 Jul 02 - 04:42 PM

Wavesplitter is easy enough to use - it just didn't work too well for me. But I was using it to break up home-made recordings from an audio-cassette, and an earlier version. It might be better with commercial recordings - for one thing, that cuts out the hassle of working out which is the shortest track, and timing it, which you need to do with wavesplitter. They tend to have that kind of thing on the sleeve notes with commercial CDs.

Goldwave seems just about right for me. You get to learn the quirks of one program, it doesn't seem worthwhile shifting to another unless there are major advantages.

Subject: RE: Help: Wave Splitting Program
From: weststar
Date: 29 Jul 02 - 09:06 PM

The ripper that I usefor LPs Should do your splitting for you cheap and easy

Subject: RE: Help: Wave Splitting Program
From: weststar
Date: 29 Jul 02 - 09:08 PM

http://www.cfbsoftware.com.au/

Subject: RE: Help: Wave Splitting Program
From: nickp
Date: 30 Jul 02 - 04:11 AM

Wavesplitter 1.2 - tried last night, admittedly in a rush so I wasn't giving it my full attention. Yes it split the Wave but when I tried to open the files (in Winamp or Creative Studio) they failed with a corrupt file message.

I will give it another go when I can spare some more time. It was pretty quick and idiot proof to use and - as long as I can figure out what is wrong and get it working - worth the $10 asked as shareware.

I needed to reopen the files to clean start and ends being a noisy tape. Whether it would have worked if I'd written the files as an audio disc I don't know. All I need is a few spare years.........

Subject: RE: Help: Wave Splitting Program
From: greg stephens
Date: 30 Jul 02 - 08:10 AM

See Pablo Neruda's "Let the Waveplitter awake" for a socialist perspective on this interesting problem.

Subject: RE: Help: Wave Splitting Program
From: Amos
Date: 30 Jul 02 - 10:08 AM

If you play the files onto an MDR, the MDR will insert marks anywhere you press a button, which separates the tracks.

The track files can then be recorded individually from the MDR.

A

Subject: RE: Help: Wave Splitting Program
From: nickp
Date: 30 Jul 02 - 11:08 AM

Hi Amos,

Yup true, but - and I must admit I've thought about it but never tried it - if you record the 'whole' MD as one wave file will the writing of that to a cd carry forward the track marks (using pc not audio writer)?

Subject: RE: Help: Wave Splitting Program
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 30 Jul 02 - 06:10 PM

With Goldwave you can do things like top and tail the individual tracks and take out the crackles, and fade in and out, which can make the whole thing feel less abrupt.

Subject: RE: Help: Wave Splitting Program
From:
Date: 30 Jul 02 - 06:33 PM

No, when you record the MD onto the computer, it won't carry through the track marks. You'd have to copy into the computer and either manually stop the recording at the end of each track to make a separate .WAV/MP3 file for each track, or record the whole thing and then separate them using a different program

Subject: RE: Help: Wave Splitting Program
From: nickp
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 04:42 AM

Thanks George, saves me wasting my time. Oh well, back to doing things the hard way - just wish I had a faster processor!

Subject: RE: Help: Wave Splitting Program
From: GUEST,Gene
Date: 31 Jul 02 - 12:12 PM

NERO allows for placing SEPARATION marks on a WAV or MP3 file up to at least 45 minutes in length and SPLITS them into individual tracks upon recording.
[THANKS DALE]

that's the largest one i have tried...one main drawback is you CANNOT SAVE THE INDIVIDUAL MP3s or WAVs...
at least I have not discovered how, YET!

NERO only allows for burning a MUSIC CD of the processed file...but has a great OSCILLOSCOPE TYPE GRAPHIC VIEWER of what is going on...

the NEW EZ CD PLATINUM program has some NIFTY features...and SPIN DOCTOR splits songs from CAS/LP as they are being recorded...

BUT one drawback is that if there is a short break in the song file [music stops] IT SPLITS THERE ALSO AND YOU HAVE TO SPLICE IT...Easily done...but a little more time consuming...

SPLIT SENSITIVITY is adjustable but i have not been able to get around the above shortcoming...

perhaps some Mudcatter can add to this...