Who is Isla St Clair ?

Subject: RE: Who is Isla St Clair ?
From: eddie1
Date: 18 Mar 12 - 10:26 AM

Isla keeps trying to persuade me to give up my long-running relationship with EmmyLou Harris in favour of her. She might just succeed!
Murray eat your heart out!

Eddie

Subject: RE: Who is Isla St Clair ?
From: Merek'n'Dary
Date: 18 Mar 12 - 02:06 PM

Isla is anything but out of the picture! She has a huge following in Banbury, having lived in the area and is the Patron of Banbury Folk Festival. She regularly appears at the Festival and at Banbury Folk Club. She is still a great singer with a huge repertoire of Scottish traditional songs. She learnt these at her mother's knee and was singing around the clubs from the age of 14 - long before she ever became a TV star. She is a lovely, warm person with a great personality to boot!

Subject: RE: Who is Isla St Clair ?
From: GUEST,Ray
Date: 18 Mar 12 - 02:22 PM

I remember Isla from the latter half of the 1970s before she sought fame and fortune on the weekend TV saccharin circuit.

She was a competent, well regarded, Scottish traditional singer in those days, specialising in mouth music if I remember correctly, although, personally, I have little interest in such things. Assuming she still has a voice, I see no reason why she shouldn't still be worth seeing.

Subject: RE: Who is Isla St Clair ?
From: stallion
Date: 18 Mar 12 - 07:50 PM

yup she lives in Byfield about 8 miles from Banbury

Subject: RE: Who is Isla St Clair ?
From: Jim Martin
Date: 19 Mar 12 - 06:50 AM

Ah Byfield - I remember trains going through there in 1963 on the long since defunct Stratford & Midland Jcn Railway!

Subject: RE: Who is Isla St Clair ?
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 21 Mar 12 - 07:28 AM

Isla was already a legend when she turned upin Sandy Bell's in a mini-skirt, aged 17, and made everybody very jealous when she married Hamish Bayne shortly afterwards. She had appeared at "Folksong '65" a few years previously singing 'The Dowie Howms o' Yarrow', when the sleevenotes of the double LP said: "The singer is Isla MacDonald,2 year-old daughter of Mrs. Zetta MacDonald of Aberdeen from whom she learned most of her songs. A big song for so young a performer but Isla is more than up to the task. Would that we could a lot more singing of this quality."

Subject: RE: Who is Isla St Clair ?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 21 Mar 12 - 08:28 AM

That business where you learn at your mother's knee - does the music come out of the knee, when you stand on the big toe?

Subject: RE: Who is Isla St Clair ?
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 21 Mar 12 - 08:31 AM

Hamish Bayne the concertina maker??

Subject: RE: Who is Isla St Clair ?
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 21 Mar 12 - 08:47 AM

I don't know if he makes them, but he was playing one with the McCalmans at the time.

Subject: RE: Who is Isla St Clair ?
From: GUEST,Ray
Date: 21 Mar 12 - 10:07 AM

I don't know if he makes them but he used to play one (+ mandolin) with the McCalmans.

The late Derek Moffat once told me that he'd set up a carpentry business.

Subject: RE: Who is Isla St Clair ?
From: eddie1
Date: 21 Mar 12 - 01:57 PM

Haven't talked with Hamish in a long time but he was certainly making concertinas in Leith back then.

Eddie

Subject: RE: Who is Isla St Clair ?
From: GUEST,Bill /Aberdeen
Date: 31 Mar 12 - 12:33 PM

in the early to mid 1970s Isla did Islas Island for the then Grampian T.V. And also was on a lot of their locally produced entertainment shows...I remember being in the studio audience on some of those occasions and she was , and remains a good, value for money entertainer. it is rightly claimed earlier that she was the ideal foil for Larry Grayson and was a major reason why the Generation Game was still a success after Bruce left. I hope that her rejuvenated career of the last few years blossoms

Subject: RE: Who is Isla St Clair ?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 01 Apr 12 - 05:12 AM

Her record of that TV series and the book of folksongs accompanying it were remarkable. Most of Steeleye were playing on the record.
It won some sort of international TV award.

Its my favourite album of her.

Seen her live. I always think she could do with an accompanist keyboard or guitar.

Subject: RE: Who is Isla St Clair ?
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 03 Apr 12 - 12:13 PM

She plays guitar herself (maybe not like Martin Simpson)! And uses it for some songs.

Subject: RE: Who is Isla St Clair ?
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Oct 12 - 02:31 PM

Hi Im James Stewart and I was in Buckie Children's Home at Buckie with Jennie Stewart, and Elizabeth my two sisters, we went to the Buckie school with Veronica Erika, my Sister Jeannie was frends with them at that time and so was Isla St Clair, it brings me back to my younger days, when I went to see a man on a farm he had milking cows and I first met him throw a tv show, he wore thick glasses on his nose , he sung on tv bothy nights, but at that time I did not know him as Iala St Clairs father,ask Iala can she remember ald Doddie Duff from Buckie.                                                 from Maggie Stewart,s grandson,James Stewart ,Maggie Stewart she was the auntie to the late folk singer Jeannie Robertson fron Aberdeen

Subject: RE: Who is Isla St Clair ?
From: Mick Tems
Date: 24 Oct 12 - 04:24 AM

Isla was just 17 when I heard her first LP; it may be the School of Scottish Studies recordings that other people have mentioned. I was greatly impressed by her clear, strong voice and the vast wealth of traditional material in her memory. As James and other people have said, Isla was steeped in Aberdeenshire tradition. I booked Isla for the Valley Folk Club in Pontardawe; it was the time of a national beer strike, and nobody knew whether the pubs would be open or not. Nevertheless, she came down and wowed everybody with her singing. Later on, I was playing concertina on a TV programme in The Song And The Story series (filmed at The Museum Of Welsh Life in St Fagans, Cardiff) and Isla showed her professionalism. Recently, I saw her at a folk club in Newport, Gwent, and the club gave her a rapturous encore. Isla is still a very fine singer whose breadth of knowledge commands a great deal of respect from me.

Mick Tems

Subject: RE: Who is Isla St Clair ?
From: GUEST,Loughborough folk festival 1978ish
Date: 17 May 13 - 06:00 PM

Isla captivated a lecture theatre full of folk enthusiasts late into the night. Unaccompanied her version of "follow the herring" - memorable!
Mo

Subject: RE: Who is Isla St Clair ?
From: GUEST,DTM
Date: 17 May 13 - 07:28 PM

Isla is a true quality singer.
If you want to hear her at her best, listen to her version of Ian McCalman's beautiful & haunting song "The Shian Road"

Here-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3hqdm0C_d8

Subject: RE: Who is Isla St Clair ?
From: GUEST,Arkie
Date: 18 May 13 - 05:11 PM

Nice to see this thread. I stumbled upon Isla St. Clair a couple of months ago and wondered why I had never heard of her before. Beautiful voice and sensitive feeling for lyrics. I would go to see her if I had the chance. Did not find Shian Road among the St. Clair recordings at emusic but it is on youtube. Glad to hear it.

Shian Road

Subject: RE: Who is Isla St Clair ?
From: GUEST,Folklore Quine
Date: 19 Jul 20 - 04:30 PM

my one experience of meeting her at Cullerlie Singing Festival was not a good one - I used to admire her and want to be her! But she is arrogant and rude - she objected to me recording her singing - she should have known that the organisers of the festival record ALL the sessions, why should she have the monopoly? It was a public session, I just wanted to learn one of her songs. I was so angry I deleted the recording right away. So much for "humble local quine"! She is not! Undeniably good singer, but personality is a bit of a disappointment, I would not ever want to see her on stage again.

Subject: RE: Who is Isla St Clair ?
From: GUEST,Ray
Date: 19 Jul 20 - 04:44 PM

I think the decision as to whether a person can be recorded lies with that person (+ whomsoever they may have a recording contract with) and you should respect that. Why should she have know that the organisers “record ALL the sessions”? Was it in her contract?

Subject: RE: Who is Isla St Clair ?
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 19 Jul 20 - 06:18 PM

Folklore Quine: did you ask BEFORE starting to record whether it was OK to do so, and/or state for what purpose you wanted to record? In this day and age of smartphones and other digital recorders, there are perhaps too many of them waving around recording either video or audio and distracting other concert/session-goers.
Having been an organiser at other singers' events (as well as an attender at Cullerlie and various instrumental workshops), we would ALWAYS ask any of our guest artistes for their ground rules about recording BEFORE any sessions or workshops started, and communicate the artistes' preferences to participants. Most, with few exceptions, would say it was fine for personal learning use only, but absolutely NOT to be broadcast on any social media such as Facebook or YouTube, and this was taken on trust. This should apply whether or not the whole procedure was being recorded.

Subject: RE: Who is Isla St Clair ?
From: GUEST,Howard Jones
Date: 20 Jul 20 - 03:23 AM

Any arrangements by the festival organisers to record proceedings will have been agreed with the performers beforehand. That does not give anyone else carte blanche to record. It is basic courtesy to ask the performer for permission, often this will be given but where it is not (and there could be many reasons) that must be respected.

It seems particularly unpleasant to revive an old thread in order to complain this.

Subject: RE: Who is Isla St Clair ?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 20 Jul 20 - 05:03 AM

Do you hear that Folklore Quine? If you want to complain about Isla, you should start another thread :)
Yes Cullerlie is run under the auspices of the University of Aberdeen's Elphinstone Institute, and it is all recorded for the use of students at the institute. However this is for academic use, and not public access. So if you want to record someone for your own private use, then it is polite to ask. I might add, that I also think it is rude to refuse, but that's a horse of a different colour.