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Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?

GUEST,Pretty damn disgusted 13 Aug 02 - 10:11 AM
Peg 13 Aug 02 - 10:19 AM
RichM 13 Aug 02 - 10:26 AM
Midchuck 13 Aug 02 - 10:45 AM
Big Mick 13 Aug 02 - 10:50 AM
George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca 13 Aug 02 - 10:56 AM
Jack the Sailor 13 Aug 02 - 11:22 AM
Mrrzy 13 Aug 02 - 11:25 AM
artbrooks 13 Aug 02 - 12:15 PM
Bill D 13 Aug 02 - 12:45 PM
GUEST,Pretty Damn Disgusted 13 Aug 02 - 02:23 PM
MMario 13 Aug 02 - 02:28 PM
GUEST,Pretty Damn Disgusted 13 Aug 02 - 02:34 PM
MMario 13 Aug 02 - 02:39 PM
Clinton Hammond 13 Aug 02 - 02:40 PM
kendall 13 Aug 02 - 02:41 PM
GUEST 13 Aug 02 - 02:48 PM
GUEST 13 Aug 02 - 02:52 PM
Amos 13 Aug 02 - 03:01 PM
RichM 13 Aug 02 - 03:05 PM
Little Hawk 13 Aug 02 - 03:11 PM
GUEST 13 Aug 02 - 03:11 PM
RichM 13 Aug 02 - 03:14 PM
GUEST 13 Aug 02 - 03:19 PM
GUEST,Muddy Pussycat 13 Aug 02 - 03:31 PM
smallpiper 13 Aug 02 - 03:32 PM
Big Mick 13 Aug 02 - 03:37 PM
GUEST 13 Aug 02 - 03:37 PM
RichM 13 Aug 02 - 03:38 PM
Peg 13 Aug 02 - 03:43 PM
katlaughing 13 Aug 02 - 03:43 PM
RichM 13 Aug 02 - 03:48 PM
NicoleC 13 Aug 02 - 04:08 PM
Amos 13 Aug 02 - 04:08 PM
Clinton Hammond 13 Aug 02 - 04:56 PM
Susanne (skw) 13 Aug 02 - 05:25 PM
sponge 13 Aug 02 - 06:12 PM
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Bill D 13 Aug 02 - 06:23 PM
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X 13 Aug 02 - 09:50 PM
Joe Offer 14 Aug 02 - 03:57 AM
smallpiper 14 Aug 02 - 05:47 AM
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Subject: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: GUEST,Pretty damn disgusted
Date: 13 Aug 02 - 10:11 AM

OK--so the Joe Clones have no problem deleting "offensive" threads which target individual members. So what standard is being followed regarding these proliferating threads discussing female genitalia with no relation to folk and blues music?

Now, before everyone comes flying at me, let me say I'm not a prude, and I don't favor censorship. I do favor honest, open and MATURE discussion of the sexual aspects of folk and blues music, of which there is plenty. But much of the sexual content of the music is pretty dark and violent too. All the more reason to have some reasonable standards for discussion here, I would think.

But I tell you what, I am damn fed up with logging in here only to see yet another titillating sex thread. My unsolicitied opinion on the recent proliferation of these threads, is there are adult sites you can go to talk about these subjects. Is it really necessary to discuss it here?


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: Peg
Date: 13 Aug 02 - 10:19 AM

I agree.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: RichM
Date: 13 Aug 02 - 10:26 AM

Think of it as material for potential songs---proto-songs if you will.

As at any Internet site, you are your own best censor.

Don't like it? Just ignore it.
---or prepared to be really !shocked! and see this song ! in the database...


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: Midchuck
Date: 13 Aug 02 - 10:45 AM

I have no problem with an open forum, where non-members have equal ability to post with members. It results in a lot of crap being posted, but it makes things more interesting.

But the idea of a guest claiming the right to be the censor of the forum, makes no damn sense at all. It's like me being invited to dinner at someone else's house - or, more accurately, walking in uninvited because the door was unlocked - and starting to chew out the owners because the pictures on the walls were in bad taste.

Give me a f***ing break, for S***'s sake!

Peter.

(Who only shaves his face, and neglects that on weekends.)


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: Big Mick
Date: 13 Aug 02 - 10:50 AM

There are very few times that I agree with you on what should or shouldn't be here on The Mudcat. That the offending thread should be deleted is one of these things. It offends me, and I won't post to it. Knowing the history of the person who started it, I am sure it was meant to be a tongue in cheek commentary on other threads, but it offends me nonetheless.

Mick


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 13 Aug 02 - 10:56 AM

I don't know which thread you're referring to. My guess it that it is one of the ones starting with the "BS". IF it is, then one of the best ways so you do NOT see these is to take the recommendation given months ago. Use as your URL:

http://www.mudcat.org/threadsnot.cfm?Title=BS&Age=4

This gives you all the messages without the infamous BS back as far as 4 days. Since I started using it, Mudcat is so much more fun to use.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 13 Aug 02 - 11:22 AM

Dear Petty Dam disgusted,

Where is this porn?????

Hubba hubba!!!!

Geeeeeeeeeeezzzzz

Lighten up willya?????


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 13 Aug 02 - 11:25 AM

Yeah, I seem to be missing it too. I like the going into an unlocked dinner party analogy, too! My Mom did that once, kind of... we were visiting friends in Paris and when we got to their floor, we couldn't recall their apt.#, so Mom knocked on one door and I knocked on the other. Before our friends came out of the door I knocked on, someone had opened the other and Mom just walked in and started introducing herself... I started laughing so hard I couldn't help get her out, I just said something like She's Loose! to the friends who had to go in and fetch her. It was hysterical. But she didn't complain about the decor, at least!


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: artbrooks
Date: 13 Aug 02 - 12:15 PM

Troll alert


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: Bill D
Date: 13 Aug 02 - 12:45 PM

dear Guest... I 'sort of' agree with you....I could explain the sociological phenomenon involved, but I type slowly, and it would talk a LONG time to do it justice....let it suffice to say that Mudcat has become a 'community', rather than just a music discussion board, and there will ***always** be stuff in a community that does not please all members.

The job of 'censor' is a delicate one...we have several censors who err on the side of caution, which suits me fine.....and I am getting pretty durn good at not opening threads that I know I will not appreciate....


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: GUEST,Pretty Damn Disgusted
Date: 13 Aug 02 - 02:23 PM

Midchuck, Mrrzy, and Jack the Sailor,

I appreciate I am an easier target than Peg and Big Mick, so go ahead and find fault with me if you will. But I think you are ignoring the feelings and sensibilities of your fellow members at your own risk.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: MMario
Date: 13 Aug 02 - 02:28 PM

I haven't found it yet -


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: GUEST,Pretty Damn Disgusted
Date: 13 Aug 02 - 02:34 PM

MMario, it is the one I recently saw a guest refer to (in a different thread) as "the shaved pussy thread."


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: MMario
Date: 13 Aug 02 - 02:39 PM

which is pretty obvious from the thread title. VERY easy to avoid.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 13 Aug 02 - 02:40 PM

This place needs an Off Topic posting area soo bad it feckin' hurts!

And Moderators who will dcelete garbage and spam...

Just like any other Message Board worth it's salk on the net...


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: kendall
Date: 13 Aug 02 - 02:41 PM

My friend, Marshall Dodge, who studied humor seriously came up with this observation: The foundation of the dirty joke stems from a basic disrespect for women. My ex wife agreed, and she was seldom wrong in such matters. (No, that was not tongue in cheek)


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Aug 02 - 02:48 PM

Obviously, it was the thread title I found IMPOSSIBLE to avoid, opened the thread, and had my worst suspicions confirmed.

I don't disagree with Big Mick's interpretation that paddymac was attempting to tongue-in-cheek comment on the recent proliferation of tasteless, sexist threads a la "Womanly jiggles" etc which were mostly started by a person or people posting with guest appellations. I took note of the fact that a number of Mudcat members have posted a few faint objections in the form of jokes or "get back at" threads (ie the Men's Stubble thread) too.

What I'm asking people to consider here isn't that we censor anything. Rather, I saying that if on the one hand, everyone is comfortable with censoring personal attack threads here, why no threads which a whole group of members (ie most women and a lot of the men) takes personally as being offensive, is tolerated.

Please, try to just think about where it leads the forum itself if we start defending and contributing to "shaved pussy" threads, and attacking the people who object to them as humorless prudes.

I undertand it is the dog days of August, people are bored,


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Aug 02 - 02:52 PM

Sorry, I cut myself off there. But I was nearly done anyway. I was just going to say I also understand it is easy enough to get carried away with what starts out innocently enough. But I really don't think this is the sort of thread that most Mudcatters want to have in the forum, is it?

BTW kendall, I too would agree with your friend and your ex.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: Amos
Date: 13 Aug 02 - 03:01 PM

It is an entirely different thing to attack ad hominem than it is to discuss topics that may or may not be interpreted, construed, translated and altered into "offense". The taking of offense is a personal choice. One of the subtexts here is that as an open forum, one does not attack the individuals, but for the rest it is pretty much open discussion.

The reasons for taking offense at some topic or other are entirely too variable, and oftimes wholly inexplicable. Sometimes, offense is taken, for example, when one's own vanity is revealed, or a practice mentioned in jest that one has one's own secrets about.

I will never attack a member who contributes here in good faith, but I find it awfully dicey to start promising not to offend anyone -- in fact, I see no benefit in open discussion of general topics, in pussyfooting around. If individuals are involved, then it is a different matter altogether and I will try not to step on toes.

I would even go so far as to say that I am offended by certain kinds of preciousness and oversensitivity offensive, amongst fellow humans who all pretty much share the same parts and mechanisms and fallibilities, but I would never dream of censoring them, or letting myself be censored in exchange. It just wouldn't make much sense to me.

A


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: RichM
Date: 13 Aug 02 - 03:05 PM

don't be offended if you are a "humorless prude". It takes all kinds to make a world :) ....
All I ask is that you accept the internet for what it is: an anarchic discussion forum, not subject to anyone's individual likes or dislikes. Now I suggest you write a song about it, and post it to this forum.
Songs are a sacred cow, aren't they, and shurely not subject to censorship, shurely???


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Aug 02 - 03:11 PM

I couldn't even figure out what that thread was about until Peg posted to it...the word "tonsorial" had me thoroughly confused.

- LH


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Aug 02 - 03:11 PM

Amos, do you suppose if started a thread titled "BS: Shaved Pussy Jokes" it wouldn't offend nearly everyone who reads this forum? How about you put it to the test for me, as it most certainly would be deleted by the Joe Clones in heartbeat if it was posted by an anon guest.

Like I said, I'm an easy target. Would you really sit down in 3D life with Peg, and say what you just said straight to her face?


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: RichM
Date: 13 Aug 02 - 03:14 PM

Well, no... what I'd rather ask her to do is dance like she did in de ol' days.....

;) Rich


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Aug 02 - 03:19 PM

What a sick pervert you are.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: GUEST,Muddy Pussycat
Date: 13 Aug 02 - 03:31 PM

Meow!


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: smallpiper
Date: 13 Aug 02 - 03:32 PM

now now chldren there is no need to be offended or to become offensive, just ignore things that upset you, use the BS filter but don't impose your censorship on the rest of the clan and I would suggest that people who post "would be offensive threads" use the same sensitivity as I am suggesting the offended use. Lets just let people be people.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: Big Mick
Date: 13 Aug 02 - 03:37 PM

Now.............see, children. This is how you play into the troll/flame game. This "GUEST" has sucked you in, again, to a discussion of petty crap, instead of an issue. It's like this. The thread is not in very good taste, and it is offensive to some, myself included. If it were in my power to delete it, I would. But that is not my call. Now.........quit feeding this bitter person. For once, GUEST has a decent point, but you should not lose sight of the fact that a busted clock is right twice a day. This persons real agenda is to damage this site. Don't feed the trolls. Let this be the last post, eh? (wishful thinking on my part)

Mick


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Aug 02 - 03:37 PM

Right--we get it smallpiper. We just have to let the boys be boys, and take whatever they dish out.

Hey guys--any of you who find holding women in such contempt, counted the number of ladies contributing to this and the "feminine shaving" thread?

This isn't just "offensive" subject matter. You are being abusive, hateful, ugly, and mean. And enjoying the fact that you have such power over others. This is the moral equivalent of road rage, and you know it.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: RichM
Date: 13 Aug 02 - 03:38 PM

Relax, Mick. No one person can patrol the internet effectively. Have a cool one, play a song, tell a joke.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: Peg
Date: 13 Aug 02 - 03:43 PM

I am not sure what was said by Amos in his last thread that he would feel uncomfortable about saying to me in person...I can't find anything.

I don't think I am overly sensitive or prudish about this sort of thing, and my position is a unique one, being a feminist, a pagan (we tend be to open-minded about sex) and, as a stripper, a former sex industry worker...that said, THIS FORUM is intended for adults, and those adults tend to engage in non-musical discussion as often as they do in musical discussion.

I do agree that "dirty jokes" do indeed stem, however innocently, from the very source Kendall mentioned...and that the same is true for "good-humored" jokes having to do with race, ethnicity, religion or sexual orientation, that is, they come from a place of fear/hatred/disrespect.

I will reiterate, my objection to the afore-mentioned thread was its insuitability for Mudcat, as well as its (whether intentional or not) voyeuristic and somewhat perverse suggestion. I mean, do people really think a discussion of THAT is appropriate here???

And talking about men's beards does NOT constitute an equivalent or balanced discussion to the afore-mentioned one.

...and RichM, I know you are joking and I certainly don't take offense at your referring to what I have freely admitted and discussed here in the past, but your comment is not helping this situation, is it? (I also wish the GUEST would identify him or herself).

peg


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: katlaughing
Date: 13 Aug 02 - 03:43 PM

Sure members know that they don't have to open an offensive thread and read it. I've said this before when the "N" word showed up in a title of a thread: how about First Impressions to a visitor. What does it say to them if they come to the Forum and see so many inane BS threads, some of them offensive in the extreme? They wouldn't know if the thread has taken a turn towards music and probably wouldn't even want to look to find out.

I know it will seem ironic to some for me to be saying such things. People change. Lately the sort of BS we've been having is truly offensive in that it is just plain stupid.

Joeclones do not delete threads unless they are duplicates. Pene, Joe and Max are the only ones authorised to delete threads. In this case, I think any stupid, inane thread which is started anonymously should be deleted. I'd hate to add up the number of postings taken up by responding to such.

kat


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: RichM
Date: 13 Aug 02 - 03:48 PM

Sure, I'm joking...but ain't it sad that I have to say so? Sex is a part of life--as is talking about it...and I certainly have respect for Peg--as a person, as a fellow mudcatter, as a worker in whatever trade she pursued with honesty and respect.

Rich,
(feeling puckish today)
...that's spelled with a "p", not an "f"

:)


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: NicoleC
Date: 13 Aug 02 - 04:08 PM

Apologies for feeding the Troll, but folks, the Troll is right this time.

I don't get offended easily, and I'm not going to be "offended" by any of the silly BS threads. Nor do I think any of the Joe Clones should have to be the morality police if someone mentions sex or a "dirty" word. But I do think there are far more appropriate places to discuss the so-called art of shaving. Like under the bleachers at the local high school. At a slumber party.

Who said this was an ADULT forum? That doesn't wash when one of the first things you see is when you come to this site is "Mudcat for Kids." We can talk about encouraging kids to enjoy and play music, but creating a music community that excludes them is not practicing what we preach.

C'mon, folks, show some restraint. There are numerous places on the internet to discuss sex, do we really need to make this one of them?


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: Amos
Date: 13 Aug 02 - 04:08 PM

I would say anything to Peg I have ever said to anyone, and be happy to do it; I consider her a special and fine lady, and would even go out of my way not to offend her. But as she herself says she's not unduly precious about anything, and just because she doesn't like longshoreman's vocabulary, is no reason to soncider her anything but a fine person in my book. As for being hateful and mean and road-rage, let me just say, after due contemplation of the subtle ramifications of this arcane characterization, that I am forced to respond for lack of other meaningful choice, go piss up a rope, and don't be so goddamned delicate. And, oh, by the way, if I have given offense, please accept my apologies.

A


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 13 Aug 02 - 04:56 PM

I've said it before, and I'll say it again...

This place needs a bran muffin...


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 13 Aug 02 - 05:25 PM

I gave the thread in question a wide berth - and I know now I was right, and will continue to do so. I wouldn't go as far as demanding its removal (as I haven't read it) but some threads we could indeed do without! Also, I believe not every removal of sexually offending material should be denounced as censorship - but as the line between the one and the other is very fine, and depends on individual sensibilities, I'd rather not attempt to draw it. Instead, I'll include this thread in those I leave untouched in the future.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: sponge
Date: 13 Aug 02 - 06:12 PM

Guys, Fact: 'someone' owns the Mudcat servers. Fact: They allow us, the community, to share our thoughts on them. Fact: It is _entirely_ up to the owners of the servers what they allow and disallow, what they delete and leave for all to view.

This kind of debate (happens all over the internet on any discussion groups/chat rooms/call it what you will.

Personally, If the owners of Mudcat don't like a thread or post for any reason, then I have no problem with them deleting it.(except this one )

If I don't agree with that decision, then that is MY problem, not theirs and I have to get a life. Sponge.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: Genie
Date: 13 Aug 02 - 06:19 PM


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: Bill D
Date: 13 Aug 02 - 06:23 PM

~~~~~~########.....||||||||||||||||||++++++^^^^^^

....and so on..(and you may quote me)


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: smallpiper
Date: 13 Aug 02 - 09:30 PM

Guest don't forget Girls will be girls.

Live and let live I say and avoid things you don't like the look of its your choice either to read the threads and be offended or to avoid them and not be offended.

Taking a musical turn look what happened in Ireland when the british took offense to traditional music - should we start hanging people?

I actually think that this is not a decent topic for the cat but I defend peoples right to free speach and try very hard to turn what could be offensive into somthing humorus. If you take offense at that then I'm sorry.

No one has ever accused me of either being insensitive tiowards women or of oppressing them in any way and I object to your tone and accusation, but once again I believe it is your right to make those assumptions no matter how wrong they are or perhaps I could call you names instead?

Which would be better?


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: X
Date: 13 Aug 02 - 09:50 PM

What a waste of time, I was looking for the porn.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 14 Aug 02 - 03:57 AM

I was sightseeing in London yesterday, and I guess I didn't see the thread in question. It's gone, so I suppose Pene (Jeff) deleted it. I saw all sorts of messages complaining about some thread or another, but couldn't determine what people were talking about until I got a personal message from a friend.
As Kat said, only Pene, Max, and I have authority to delete threads and objectionable messages - and usually it's Pene and I who handle it. If there's something you find objectionable, the best way to handle it is to send a personal message to both Pene and me. One of us is likely to be on duty and able to deal with it.
We are usually quite reluctant to delete things, but we do feel a need to control things on occasion. The thread in question did seem to be a good candidate for deletion.
Thanks.
-Joe, having a great time visiting Micca-


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: smallpiper
Date: 14 Aug 02 - 05:47 AM

Nope Joe - the offending thread is still there.
Glad to hear you're having a great time keep at it.
Well, if a thread that's remaining is offensive, the one that was removed was worse (something about cunts and jock juice). I will agree, however, that there were a number of crude and stupid threads started in the last day or two, and the shaving thread was one of them. I didn't consider deleting them, but I think they're better left unread. Still, crude and stupid people must have an outlet for self-expression...
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Aug 02 - 06:17 AM

But I thought the "offending" thread was a genuine question (rather than some of the scatalogical humour we see around here from some established members) - and answered it as such.
AND - I certainly didn't see it as sexist. Its not an exclusively male activity, nor just for male titillation.
Its certainly not worth getting irate about! OK its off-topic, but so is about 30% of mudcat content anyway.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Aug 02 - 06:18 AM

Actually - from a brief look at the top of the threadlist - considerably more than 30%.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Aug 02 - 06:20 AM

Thanks for the filter link George. Now I can put Mudcat on my favourites list again..


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: GUEST,danielriverwind
Date: 14 Aug 02 - 06:23 AM

I haven't been on here in a while, but the whole world is getting pretty much like this. You take the good with the bad.


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: Pied Piper
Date: 14 Aug 02 - 07:23 AM

I've not read this thread, and it appears to have been removed. I'd like to make some comment about it but, I guess I'm better of not being exposed to it in case I get corrupted. I'm so glad that "the management" makes these moral judgements for me because (at the age of 44) I don't think I have enough experience to deal with these dangerous issues for my self. As to all sexual references in humour being disparaging to women; bollox.PP


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Aug 02 - 08:05 AM

Pied - here it is wicked thread


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Subject: RE: Mudcat Cafe: New Folk Music Porn Site?
From: SharonA
Date: 14 Aug 02 - 10:21 AM

To those who say that the nature of the thread entitled "forms of feminine shaves" was obvious to anyone before opening the thread: Actually, I interpreted the title to mean that the thread was a harmless poll asking ladies if they shaved their legs using a blade, an electric razor, depilatory or Epilady. The shaving-of-private-parts aspect never entered my mind until after I'd opened the thread. But then, that's the sort of prude I am.

While I found some of the comments in that thread offensive (notably the "very tasty" remark), I understand that the moderators of the Forum need to draw a line between what is offensive to some readers and what is downright pornographic. As others have noted, there have been many, many threads posted to the Forum that are offensive on one level or another to one person or another, but I disagree with the "Pretty Damn Disgusted" Guest's assertion that these offensive threads are equivalent to threads that attack an individual on a personal level. The presence of a thread can be tolerated if the majority of readers are not offended by the subject matter, but a personal attack is a threatening behavior that cannot be tolerated.


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