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Some harsh words for Dylan

katlaughing 21 Aug 02 - 12:27 AM
Callie 21 Aug 02 - 12:41 AM
leprechaun 21 Aug 02 - 09:55 AM
bob jr 21 Aug 02 - 10:16 AM
Little Hawk 21 Aug 02 - 10:33 AM
leprechaun 22 Aug 02 - 03:18 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: Some harsh words for Dylan
From: katlaughing
Date: 21 Aug 02 - 12:27 AM

He can sing "Lay, Lady, Lay" anytime in my bedroom...

if he had remained poor as a church mouse, would some of you now be denigrating him so much? He's going to be here later this summer and I can't wait to go have a listen.

You one-nutters can now go piss up a rope!**BG**


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Subject: RE: BS: Some harsh words for Dylan
From: Callie
Date: 21 Aug 02 - 12:41 AM

sorefingers: those lines from "Farewell Angelina" make sense to me, and I'm no Mensa qualifier.


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Subject: RE: BS: Some harsh words for Dylan
From: leprechaun
Date: 21 Aug 02 - 09:55 AM

A slightly kooky but loveable English professor at the University of Oregon offered a class, popular for many years, called Johnson/Guthrie/Dylan.

The cool thing about Dylan is his longevity. He borrowed or stole from everybody.

Maybe some people would have liked him more if he had died when he was thirty.

So ha ha, piss on your old sore fingers. I got an A in that class, even though I flunked the mid-term.


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Subject: RE: BS: Some harsh words for Dylan
From: bob jr
Date: 21 Aug 02 - 10:16 AM

wonder why you pick on dylans "stealing" more than guthries(who as far as i can tell wrote maybe maybe three whole original melodies in his entire life) and robert johnson(who wrote it appears ...none) oh yeah hank williams used to buy songs off other writers or just steal em outright and get sued later.


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Subject: RE: BS: Some harsh words for Dylan
From: Little Hawk
Date: 21 Aug 02 - 10:33 AM

"Stealing", as some put it, is the natural folk process that has gone on for thousands of years...and it indicates respect and affection for the past, not larceny.

What really bugs people about Dylan is sheer envy. They wish they could've done it, and can't understand why it was him instead. Too bad. Maybe next time. Next lifetime, I mean...

Then if you do become that rich and famous, you will discover that there are some serious disadvantages that you will have to put up with too, like losing your privacy, being able to trust virtually no one, and having legions of gloriously ignorant fools accuse you of things you never even thought of in the first place.

"Somebody's got it in for me
They're planting stories in the press
Whoever it is, I wish they'd cut it out quick
When they will, I can only guess
They say I shot a man named Grey
And took his wife to Italy
She inherited a million bucks
And when she died it came to me
I can't help it if I'm lucky."

He did exactly what everyone else around him was trying to do...he was just far more successful at it.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Some harsh words for Dylan
From: leprechaun
Date: 22 Aug 02 - 03:18 AM

Yes, that's what I meant by stealing, in a good sense, like in basketball. Like, "Good steal Mr. Bob!" And not necessarily stealing directly, but borrowing styles, fashions, and experimenting with genres. Mr. Bob went everywhere, Blues, British Isles Folk, Country & Western, Gospel, Rock, and lots of other places I don't know enough about to mention. There's so much, nobody could like all of it. But you have to be a premeditated turd to hate all of it.


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