BS: eerie occurance

Subject: RE: BS: eerie occurance
From: michaelr
Date: 23 Aug 02 - 09:24 PM

Wow, robomatic -- that IS weird! Who wants to bet that Those Responsible For The Events Of September Eleventh got the idea from watching American television?

Michael

Subject: RE: BS: eerie occurance
From: robomatic
Date: 23 Aug 02 - 05:26 PM

Since this is a BS occurrence, I'm gonna steer it away from songs for a bit, as I was not impressed by this particular 'eerie occurence'. People have been singing of falling towers for a rather long time, as well as bridges, forests, and hopes. The reason is quite basic. Stuff falling down invites attention, "The bigger they are..."

If you want weird, check out the first show (I'm not sure if it was a pilot or not) of the now defunct (and never to be repeated, I'm sure) Chris Carter show: "Lone Gunmen" which aired in late 2000 or early 2001. The plot involved an attempt on the part of some secret sub government entity, to create instability by flying a loaded passenger 747, under remote control, into one of the WTC towers. The special effects show a pilot's view into the windows at the last moment.

Subject: RE: BS: eerie occurance
From: Jeremiah McCaw
Date: 23 Aug 02 - 04:52 PM

Definitely written by Camp, Glen. And definitely recorded by Lightfoot on his first album (also had Phil Ochs' "Changes" and Ewan McColl's "The First Time Ever"). Don't think Lightfoot's recorded any covers after that.

Subject: RE: BS: eerie occurance
From: Ebbie
Date: 23 Aug 02 - 02:11 AM

"Hamilton Camp is elusive. He has appeared and disappeared on the music scene for the last 38 years. Camp is a self-described unreconstructed folk artist, though the original songs on his new CD Mardi's Bard reflect his eclectic interests in a wide variety of styles.

He continues to perform at music festivals and clubs internationally, appearing at the Napa Music Festival, California, Sept. '98. Hamilton currently resides in Los Angeles with his wife and family. He has six children and nine grandchildren. "

http://www.jacana.demon.co.uk/djc/djcrev09.htm

Subject: RE: BS: eerie occurance
From: Phil Cooper
Date: 23 Aug 02 - 01:18 AM

Hamilton Camp used to sing with Bob Gibson, doing several popular, influential albums with him. He was also an actor. He played the building janitor on the show He and She with Dick Benjamin and Paula Prentiss in the late '60's. And did other walk on roles (a rather funny scene in WKRP for example). I'm sure there's a lot more information out there about Mr. Camp.

Subject: RE: BS: eerie occurance
From: gwonya
Date: 22 Aug 02 - 08:38 PM

The expression 'see what you expect to see and expect what you invite' comes to mind with respect to your experience with that song on that morning.

Subject: RE: BS: eerie occurance
From: michaelr
Date: 22 Aug 02 - 07:39 PM

Anyone -- Who is Hamilton Camp, and when did he write it?

Also, could you please post the full text?

Cheers,
Michael

Subject: RE: BS: eerie occurance
From: GUEST,Terilu
Date: 22 Aug 02 - 01:22 AM

Oh people, look around you
The signs are everywhere
You've left it for somebody other than you
To be the one to care
You're lost inside your houses
There's no time to find you now
Your walls are burning and your towers are turning
I'm going to leave you here and try to get down to the sea somehow

The road is filled with homeless souls
Every woman, child and man
Who have no idea where they will go
But they'll help you if they can
Now everyone must have some thought
That's going to pull them through somehow
Well the fires are raging hotter and hotter
But the sisters of the sun are going to rock me on the water now


Rock me on the water
Sister will you soothe my fevered brow
Rock me on the water
I'll get down to the sea somehow

Oh people, look among you
It's there your hope must lie
There's a sea bird above you
Gliding in one place like Jesus in the sky
We all must do the best we can
And then hang on to that Gospel plow
When my life is over, I'm going to stand before the Father
But the sisters of the sun are going to rock me on the water now

Rock me on the water
Sister will you soothe my fevered brow
Rock me on the water, maybe I'll remember
Maybe I'll remember how
Rock me on the water
The wind is with me now
So rock me on the water
I'll get down to the sea somehow
---Jackson Browne

(c) 1971 WB Music Corp.

(line breaks added by a Joeclone)

Subject: RE: BS: eerie occurance
From: ddw
Date: 21 Aug 02 - 10:52 PM

Paul Geremia does a song that I find really strange. It's called Chickens Come Home to Roost, or something like that. About five or six verses chronical a pretty bad interpersonal situation and each ends with the lines

"But you know I gotta cut you loose
Before them chickens come home to roost.

Then he has a verse that says

Those Pentagon terrorists make me rave
When peace on Earth is what we crave
They export war and they export death
I don't even know why I waste my breath
'Cept to spread a little bit of truth
Cause chickens always come home to roost.

Before Sept. 11 I always just thought it was jarring, out-of-place bad writing. After 9-11, I have to hit the "next" button when it gets to that part of the song.

david

Subject: RE: BS: eerie occurance
From: Midchuck
Date: 21 Aug 02 - 10:34 PM

I got a very similiar feeling when I went to sing Gram Parsons' Sin City...

...On the thirty-first floor,
a gold-plated door
won't keep out the Lord's burning rain....

Peter.

Subject: RE: BS: eerie occurance
From: Glen Reid
Date: 21 Aug 02 - 09:55 PM

I could be wrong, but I think Gordon Lightfoot wrote and recorded that song mid sixties. However it does seem to apply to current events?

Subject: RE: BS: eerie occurance
From: michaelr
Date: 21 Aug 02 - 07:43 PM

mkebenn -- I know that song from the Quicksilver version only. Who is Hamilton Camp, and when did he write it?

Also, could you please post the full text?

Cheers,
Michael

Subject: RE: BS: eerie occurance
From: Ebbie
Date: 21 Aug 02 - 02:39 PM

I suspect our conscious minds are WAY behind our collective unconscious...

Subject: RE: BS: eerie occurance
From: Pete Jennings
Date: 21 Aug 02 - 02:14 PM

Dylan released Love And Theft last September 10th. "Mississippi" contains the line "Sky full of fire, pain pouring down".

Scary

Subject: eerie occurance
From:
Date: 21 Aug 02 - 01:44 PM

Had a weird thing happen to me this morning. As is my habit, I play for about an hour while I have my coffee, and before preparing for work. Part of the time is spent making new arrangments for songs I haven't played in some time. This morning's subject was Hamilton Camp's "Pride of Man". Spent a few moments working on a chord intro with a walking bass line that I thought was kinda' cool, and then started the song. Now I should say here that about my only real talent is that I generally don't forget lyrics, ever. Music yes, words no. So I hadn't thought about the lyrics. Got thru the first two verses, not really hearing them, and perfecting the bass line. Then I got to the third verse and felt a chill go down my spine.

Turn around, go back down
back the way you came.
Terror is on every side
Lo' our leaders are dimayed.
For those who put their faith in fire
In fire their faith shall be repaid
Oh God, the pride of man
Broken in the dust again.

Well, I WAS listening to the next verse

Turn around, go back down
back the way you came.
And shout a warning to the Nation
that the sword of God is raised
on Babylon, thy might kingdom
rich in treasure wide in fame.
for He shall cause thy tower to fall
and make of thee a pyre of flame.

This song is from the late sixties, and I'll never hear or sing it the same again. Mike

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