The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Bobo
Date: 06 Aug 03 - 10:02 PM

Martha, please allow me to state my opinion and maybe help to clear your mind. The sessions are open, but with 15 musicians in the room, everybody does tend to hammer away trying to be heard. There is a core group that know when to play, and better yet... when NOT to play. The "leader" tries to keep control, but it's tough. He is really a good guy and more than willing to ask anyone to step up. If I remember who you were, he asked you, right? But when I start moaning about not having a chance, which we all do... I remember. This is a learning experience and we are fortunate to have the semi-pros there to learn from. Jam etiquite requires a person to work their way into the group and earn some acceptance, maybe one song lead one week... gradually increasing your presence. Beginners mix with intermediate and mix with advanced players. Kinda like music soup. I consider myself a beginner, although I have been playing bass and guitar since I was 13... 46 years ago. My dobro is 7 months old. SO, I take leads when they are offered and nod them off if I am not sure I can pull it off. THAT is the experience you can garner! That is open to anyone who has the heart to try. Come back and do it again. The old timey group is still forming and hopefully it will be a solid mass in the next couple of months to offer alternatives to those of us who are poking around and experimenting. Hope this helps, and did not offend. IF so, sorry.

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Bobo
Date: 07 Aug 03 - 02:41 PM

...and now that Martha thinks I'm an arrogant idiot or something...

What the heck. Gern already knew it.

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Banjer
Date: 07 Aug 03 - 07:41 PM

Not at all, Bobo! I think you have covered all the points very well. I love to hear the big boys playing and only wish that I could join in! But until I can, if ever, I also enjoy trying my hand at slow stuff just to gain the experience. I have noticed the last few months I am not afraid to pick up a banjo in the shop and start a few songs in MY STYLE when others are present! That simple act used to terrify the beejezus out of me!! I think it is because I have developed the attitude that I don't care what they think, I am enjoying myself! Marthabees, DO come on over one Saturday< we'd love to have you!

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Gern
Date: 08 Aug 03 - 09:43 AM

Yes, for God's sake, don't let my grousing discourage you. My style (clawhammer banjo) and hearing troubles (over 60% loss in both ears) make me a difficult match for any group of pickers. No one at any time has made me feel unwelcome or unworthy. But the oldtime sessions are more inclusive, and give me a chance to break up the usual routine of bluegrass standards. Complicating our setup is a nucleus of an established band, who bring their repertiore, worked harmonies, etc. to each session. No harm intended here, but it relegates the rest of us to chording backups. This can all be worked out. In the meantime, we have a great weekly opportunity to mix, listen and develop. Perhaps I have not voiced my appreciation for this enough. Or perhaps I am part of a not so elite group: musicians with ego problems. Ever met one of these?

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Bobo
Date: 08 Aug 03 - 02:36 PM

A musician with an ego? Naaah.

Music to me an my wife is more than a hobby, it is an obsession from day to day. But, likely not a way to earn a living. So when we realize we are being too serious, we stop and laugh. Hey, we are doing this for fun. If it stops being fun, then it becomes work or something.

It is all a journey, grasshopper. We never reach the destination and must enjoy the scenery along the way.

That is our attitude! Right Gern, you old tamale eater, you.

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Bobo
Date: 10 Aug 03 - 08:54 AM

Even without a bass, yesterday's jam was one of the best ever. Big Jim and Bob harmonize so well and the music was clean, tight and considerate. Lots of handing off split leads which always sounds great. Small crowd, high quality! 'Ceptin we wuz missin dad bern Gern.

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Gern
Date: 10 Aug 03 - 09:22 AM

I had planned to make it, actually, but was having hearing troubles. Seems my days off are your days on. Elson called to tell me about some old timer who came by, but I couldn't make it. Next week?

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Banjer
Date: 10 Aug 03 - 09:29 AM

Yes, Gern was having some health concerns from what I was told. Hopefuly he will be able to join us soon...if not we will storm his house one day...if it keeps raining like it is here we can all climb on board that bass in the store and use our banjos for paddles to get here! (You've got to visualize this with me folks), Bobo in his Hawiian shirt standing at the helm, acting as sort of a warning light at the bow (with the shirt I'm thinking of he could be seen for miles, even in a dense fog), with the rest of us piled on behind, paddling with whatever form of banjo or madolin we can muster!! I'm sitting here at the keyboard giggling all by my lonesome, except for the dog who thinks I've finally lost it!! :)

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Bobo
Date: 10 Aug 03 - 10:44 AM

In the next week or two, Leon Poindexter will come up from Sarasota and jam with us. He and his brother Frank, who is our buddy, are two of the best dobro players in the business. Their sister up in North Carolina is the mother to the Rice brothers. Yes, Tony Rice and his brothers. Maybe next week, or the following, but he has emailed me they are coming. Started to come yesterday but the storms turned them back home. I will be at Elson's at noon.

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Banjer
Date: 10 Aug 03 - 02:12 PM

I will be there as well...what a nice visit that will be! If teis keeps up and word keeps spreading we will have to get Elson to get rid of all the display cases and book racks to make room for us!! :) WOW..Leon Poindexter..not an unfamiliar name at all!

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Bobo
Date: 10 Aug 03 - 10:52 PM

Yep, Leon is known by Mike Godwin, Charlie Hamrick and others. He and Frank recorded "HIGHWAY CALL" with the Allman Brothers and Dickie Betts a while back. Frank says he will be down in January and will attend the Legion and BG Shop jam. Cool.

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Bobo
Date: 13 Aug 03 - 03:04 PM

I am hoping Leon will be there NEXT Saturday, August 23 since Laurie has to work this weekend. But I will email him and try to post his response. Heard that Pete is back! Great. Missed his singing.

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Bobo
Date: 13 Aug 03 - 03:44 PM

TONIGHT ON WUSF TV-16:
   
Wednesday, August 13th, 2003

8:00 p.m. All*Star Bluegrass Celebration II brings together familiar favorites plus some fresh new faces and sounds, originating from the historic stage of the Grand Ole Opryhouse in Nashville, Tennessee.


If you miss this, sorry. We just heard about it at 3:30pm. It will repeat.

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Banjer
Date: 13 Aug 03 - 09:09 PM

I am watching it now...some good stuff...some not so good stuff...but it's all Bluegrass! Dr. Ralph Stanley is looking good!!

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Bobo
Date: 14 Aug 03 - 11:32 AM

Good mix of new and old. Prefer the old. Glad we taped it so we can FF past the subscription pounding they handed out. Jeez.

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Banjer
Date: 16 Aug 03 - 10:50 PM

I think we had a pretty good mix today at the jam! The newcomer Gene has a good repoitere of 'Golden Oldie' country songs. It was a lso god to see Gern there again! What would you all think, and how would we go about it so no one gets upset if we change the schedule of the jam just a bit? Here's what I propose:

Noon to 1:45 Old Time (Folks like Gern and Bobo and Laurie and others interested could gather and do 'thier thing')

1:30 to 2:45 Golden Oldie Country Music (Here the folks that like the slower pace of country and old time could come in and join the already in progress old time session and it would then fade from Old Time to Country)

2:30 to 5:00 Bluegrass (Here the full blown Bluegrass Jam would get under way with any of the C&W guys that want joining in)

Sort of a 'something for everyone schedule'...I think most all would like having their own genre of music highlighted. What do you think?

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Bobo
Date: 18 Aug 03 - 01:06 PM

So, the final consensus was to leave it 1:30pm till 4-ish? That's what I expected since this time was originally "established" by the Bluegrass group as to when they like to come and go. There is still room for an Old Time group, or Golden Oldie group if people decide to show up at noon.   And, BTW, Gern... you were great in there with the group! Wish you could'a stayed a bit longer. But your heart strings were pulling...

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Gern
Date: 18 Aug 03 - 02:14 PM

I enjoyed playing Jimmie Rodgers songs with Elson, as well as the usual assortment with the usual suspects. Sorry Banjer's idea didn't fly, although I've only heard two objections. Apparently that's enough. I've got another kayak race coming up this weekend--it's some sort of middle-of-life crisis thing...

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Bobo
Date: 18 Aug 03 - 03:04 PM

Gern, I know of 5 votes saying "leave it alone."

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Banjer
Date: 18 Aug 03 - 05:43 PM

Yes it was an huge success in the flop department! Well it was just an idea. If we never have ideas we will stagnate in our own juices. Later maybe we will be able to expand the time that we can meet and we'll see where it goes!

Gern, try to remember what that nylon string openback sounded like, I made some changes in it and I think I improved it!!

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Gern
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 11:04 AM

Should be easier on the hands, which is a matter of some interest to me. How does it do for volume? Any difference between clawhammer and picking? With your permission, I'd like to try it out one of these days. As to your idea, I still think it's valid, but bluegrassers are a conservative lot. Perhaps we'll just show up early and whoever wants to play plays whatever they want to play.

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Banjer
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 06:04 PM

No problem playing anytime you want to try it. As for volume or difference between styles, I'll let you judge that for yourself. Showing up early and doing whatever we want is about the only way we will get to do that! See you there!

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Banjer
Date: 23 Aug 03 - 10:03 PM

We had a visitor to the Bluegrass Shop jam today!! Leon Poindexter came to jam with us!! Thanks to Bobo for inviting him! It was a great jam. Leon is one heck of a good dobro player! He did a Jimmy Rodgers song complete with yodels! Great time!!!

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: marthabees
Date: 24 Aug 03 - 09:55 PM

To Bobo et al :

I really appreciate the quick version of jam session 'etiquette.' Knowing the conventions helps. I'll try to get up to speed on a few more tunes and then when they nod to me, I'll go for it. I'm close to it now....

You all sound like winners to me. Keep pluckin' along!

Martha

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Bobo
Date: 25 Aug 03 - 03:15 PM

Martha, come on back! When it's time to take a lead, just go for it! If you mess up... so what. Happens all the time, even to some of the seasoned pros there, and people kid you in good fun. You gotta laugh and say, "Next time." We all enjoy trying. I have frozen up totally a couple of times and just shook it off. Grumbled and went home and practiced.

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Gern
Date: 25 Aug 03 - 03:18 PM

Yeah, I made a mistake once myself. This should be a pressure-free situation. Many of us are new to our instruments, or playing our second or third best instrument. And we learn best by screwing up, which is something I had to remind myself frequently while I was a high school teacher. Everyone is welcome anytime.

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Banjer
Date: 25 Aug 03 - 05:56 PM

But Gern, isn't it true that when you were a High School teacher they only had two subjects? Since it hadn't happened yet, history was not one of them!

If, like you say, we learn best by screwing up, then I am a very learned individual, for all the screwups I can claim!

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Bobo
Date: 25 Aug 03 - 10:46 PM

Shoot, I heard that when Gern was a teacher, they hadn't invented math yet.

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Bobo
Date: 29 Aug 03 - 10:28 AM

Will not be at the jam this Saturday to contribute my normal amount of bad notes. We are attending the Sertoma Youth Ranch Bluegrass Festival in beautiful... slow down I think we missed it... Dade City. However, we will be back next Saturday the 6th. If it will help, I will create a cassette and send it for this weekend and you can play it in the background with any song in any key, which is the normal way I follow along anyways. Don't matter none.

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Banjer
Date: 29 Aug 03 - 08:47 PM

Keys, keys...??? We don't need no stinkin' keys....ain't no locks on the doors anyway!!

We will miss your smiling countenance and bright, battery powered shirts...Heck, we may even have to turn the lights on to see this week!

I wonder how many others will also be going to the Dade City event?

Oh well, we will amuse ourselves with whatever comes along!

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Banjer
Date: 02 Sep 03 - 04:56 AM

AS it turned out it was a real neat session...the 'big boys' went elsewhere for the Labor Day weekend and some of the regulars just sat around and did whatever came to mind. King Richard cut loose on guitar and did some blues stuff, there were some old time songs played and I even got into the mix with the openback! Look forward to the full house again next weekend, but it was different for a change!

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Bobo
Date: 02 Sep 03 - 04:05 PM

Had a great time in beautiful... slow down, I think we missed it... Dade City. Met and talked to Eddie Adcock for over an hour, twice. He even showed me his picking patterns and how he uses his picks a little differently than Earl. Martha was a great lady, too. Charlie Hamrick's Flatland Band was a big hit. Laurie and I got a chance to sit with them while they were practicing for the shows at a private practice and meet the members of the band. Great folks. Bit hit was "Wildwood Valley Boys" who tore the house down. I have pix sent to Fred and Elson. See you Saturday. No more blues. Bluegrass rulez.

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Banjer
Date: 03 Sep 03 - 04:56 AM

I'm glad to hear that you had a good time...but I do think you are being unfair in your assesment of Dade City. I have been there and I know they have at least one traffic light!!

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Bobo
Date: 03 Sep 03 - 09:53 AM

Alas, you're right. We sat at that light. And, they have a Village Inn which fed us breakfast on Saturday.

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Banjer
Date: 03 Sep 03 - 07:13 PM

Did they feed you while you were waiting for that one light to change? See ya Saturday!!

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Gern
Date: 04 Sep 03 - 10:37 AM

OK, wise guys, what's this "no more blues" business? Just how do you spell bluegrass anyway? Blues is essential to bluegrass; intimately related, as its best practitioners have proven. Bill Monroe's first gigs were with black blues guitarist Arnold Schultz, and Bill pondered a blues career thereafter. Jimmy Roders, lauded founder of modern country music and songs performed for yuears on bluegrass stages, wrote and performed dozens of strictly blues compositions: T for Texas, Blue Yodel #1-79, No Hard Time Blues, etc. etc. Even your own oft-cited influence, Uncle Josh, played blues on nearly every solo. Exclude the blues and you eliminate a lot of bluegrass standards. Ex.--Bill Monroe: Muleskinner Blues, Rocky Road Blues, True Life Blues. Carter Family: Jealous Hearted Me, Coal Miner's Blues. Earl Scruggs: Lonesome Road Blues, Mama Blues, Take this Hammer.Jimmy Martin: Freeborn Man, Sitting on Top of the World. Doc Watson: Deep River Blues and dozens of other recordings. I wouldn't suggest a Stevie Ray Vaughan jam, but let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater (one of my favorite expressions, by the way.)The purest purist in bluegrass couldn't separate blues from bluegrass. Neither should we.

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Bobo
Date: 04 Sep 03 - 01:23 PM

I'm not separating blues from bluegrass. Just for the record, the modern version of a clawhamamer is drop forged, heat treated steel with a rubber grip handle... maybe 1.25 pounds or so. So where do you come off claiming to play clawhammer, eh?

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Gern
Date: 04 Sep 03 - 01:50 PM

...Ralph Stanley vocals on "Oh Death", "Limehouse Blues" recorded by Don Reno and Eddie Adcock, whom you were just discussing, Bill Monroe's "I'm Blue, I'm Lonesome Too," and I haven't even mentioned Roscoe Holcomb and Dock Boggs ...

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Bobo
Date: 04 Sep 03 - 03:36 PM

Do you have any sense of humor, blues expert? By the way, I grew up in Memphis and played in our BLUES group with 10 pieces, including 3 black singers who played horns. Belonged to the American Fed of Musicians AFL/CIO when I was 18. Played with BB King one eve, played many times with Wilson Pickett, Bobby Blue Bland and others downtown on Beale Street.

My point: The shop, last I looked, is "The Bluegrass Shop." I could be wrong.

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Gern
Date: 04 Sep 03 - 07:01 PM

Blue-grass, that is. And how's your sense of humor? A lot of people underestimate the influence of various musical genres on bluegrass. Bill Monroe was working on a rap session, for example, to be called "Killa' Bill." He only finished two cuts for this album, a reamke entitled "Pretty Polly was a Ho" and a fusion classic called "Bake Them Hotcakes, B***ch." He was to team up with Eminem and Marilyn Manson to record "Eminem, MM and M." Apparently Bill preferred not to be called 'BM'. Others too have utilized influences from modern contemporary music. Who could forget at the CMT Video Awards, when Allison Krauss planted an open-mouthed kiss on Mother Maybelle Carter? Mrs. Carter, who had been dead for years, had no comment. So, as you can see, bluegrass is a diverse entity. I too have blues credentials, but prefer to give folks good-natured shit.

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Bobo
Date: 04 Sep 03 - 08:44 PM

And you do, and I love it. Don't ever change! ;-}

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Bobo
Date: 04 Sep 03 - 11:06 PM

And, by the way, you need to cut down on the caffeine.

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Gern
Date: 05 Sep 03 - 08:43 AM

I don't need no stinkin' caffeine... but I am sorry for any confusion. Clearly too much time on my hands when the water's too rough to kayak (another 5th place finish at the race in Ruskin last week!) I'm often chided as a purist, which is a little odd for someone who listens to Coltrane, Zappa and Yellowman. My wife isn't always pleased with my musical tastes. So I kid others, but honestly know less than most of the musicians I play with. I should have mentioned Earl Scruggs' foray into punk rock, though. Remember his work with fuzz box on the Ramones' bluegrass-punk classic, "Baby Let Me Whip Your Cow"? And that duet by Alison Kraus and Mother Maybelle was actually the older, traditional version of Madonna's first hit. This Kentucky ballad was originally entitled "What's a Virgin?" I'll probably see you all Saturday, if the roads are open.

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Bobo
Date: 05 Sep 03 - 01:49 PM

Should be fun. Bring yore banjer. I'll drag along the guitar with hubcap. We will butcher some music. Hope to be there 12:30-ish but can come earlier if anyone will be there.   

My music tastes: Jerry Garcia, David Grisman, BB King, ZZ Top, Patty Loveless, Natalie McMaster, Mark O'Connor, Itzak Pearlman, Jerry Douglas, Andres Segovia, The Country Gentlemen, Merle Haggard, Nancy Griffith, George Jones, Reno & Smiley, Blue Highway, Ricky Skaggs, Pavarotti, Leon Redbone. In other words, I don't have a clue.

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Banjer
Date: 05 Sep 03 - 06:35 PM

Looks to me like Bobo's tastes are a whole smorgasbord. A veritable cafeteria of musical tastes!! I'll try to be there by 12:30 at the latest, see you all then!

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Bobo
Date: 06 Sep 03 - 10:07 AM

Saw this on the Jerry Douglas BB:

HOW TO SING THE BLUES

by Lame Mango Washington (attributed to Memphis Earlene Gray with help from Uncle Plunky, revisions by Little Blind Patti D. and Dr. Stevie Franklin)

1. Most Blues begin, "Woke up this morning."

2. "I got a good woman" is a bad way to begin the Blues, 'less you stick something nasty in the next line, like " I got a good woman, with the meanest face in town."

3. The Blues is simple. After you get the first line right, repeat it. Then find something that rhymes ... sort of: "Got a good woman - with the meanest face in town. Got teeth like Margaret Thatcher - and she weigh 500 pound."

4. The Blues are not about choice. You stuck in a ditch, you stuck in a ditch; ain't no way out.

5. Blues cars: Chevys and Cadillacs and broken-down trucks. Blues don't travel in Volvos, BMWs, or Sport Utility Vehicles. Most Blues transportation is a Greyhound bus or a southbound train. Jet aircraft an' state-sponsored motor pools ain't even in the running. Walkin' plays a major part in the blues lifestyle. So does fixin' to die.

6. Teenagers can't sing the Blues. They ain't fixin' to die yet. Adults sing the Blues. In Blues, " adulthood" means being old enough to get the electric chair if you shoot a man in Memphis.

7. Blues can take place in New York City but not in Hawaii or any place in Canada. Hard times in St. Paul or Tucson is just depression. Chicago, St. Louis, and Kansas City still the best places to have the Blues. You cannot have the blues in any place that don't get rain.

8. A man with male pattern baldness ain't the blues. A woman with male pattern baldness is. Breaking your leg cuz you skiing is not the blues. Breaking your leg cuz an alligator be chomping on it is.

9. You can't have no Blues in an office or a shopping mall. The lighting is wrong. Go outside to the parking lot or sit by the dumpster.

10. Good places for the Blues:

a. highway b. jailhouse c. empty bed d. bottom of a whiskey glass

Bad places:

a. Ashrams b. gallery openings c. Ivy League institutions d. golf courses

11. No one will believe it's the Blues if you wear a suit, 'less you happen to be an old ethnic person, and you slept in it.

12. Do you have the right to sing the Blues? Yes, if:

a. you're older than dirt b. you're blind c. you shot a man in Memphis d. you can't be satisfied

No, if:

a. you have all your teeth b. you were once blind but now can see c. the man in Memphis lived. d. you have a retirement plan or trust fund.

13. Blues is not a matter of color. It's a matter of bad luck. Tiger Woods cannot sing the blues. Gary Coleman could. Ugly white people also got a leg up on the blues.

14. If you ask for water and Baby give you gasoline, it's the Blues.

Other acceptable Blues beverages are:

a. wine b. whiskey or bourbon c. muddy water d. black coffee

The following are NOT Blues beverages:

a. mixed drinks b. kosher wine c. Snapple d. sparkling water

15. If it occurs in a cheap motel or a shotgun shack, it's a Blues death. Stabbed in the back by a jealous lover is another Blues way to die. So is the electric chair, substance abuse, and dying lonely on a broken down cot. You can't have a Blues death if you die during a tennis match or getting liposuction.

16. Some Blues names for women:

a. Sadie b. Big Mama c. Bessie d. Fat River Dumpling

17. Some Blues names for men:

a. Joe b. Willie c. Little Willie d. Big Willie

18. Persons with names like Sierra, Sequoia, Auburn, and Rainbow can't sing the Blues no matter how many men they shoot in Memphis.

19. Make your own Blues name (starter kit):

a. name of physical infirmity (Blind, Cripple, Lame, etc.) b. first name (see above) plus name of fruit (Lemon, Lime, Kiwi,etc.) c. last name of President (Jefferson, Johnson, Fillmore, etc.)

For example, Blind Lime Jefferson, or Cripple Kiwi Fillmore, etc.

(Well, maybe not "Kiwi.")

20. I don't care how tragic your life: you own a computer, you cannot sing the blues. You best destroy it. Fire, a spilled bottle of Mad Dog, or get out a shotgun. I don't care.

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Bobo
Date: 09 Sep 03 - 01:50 PM

And, now that you know all this, please allow me to introduce myself: Nearly-Lame Crabapple Lincoln Bobby, if you please. Wrote a song about it... want to hear it? Here it go...

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Bobo
Date: 15 Sep 03 - 10:49 PM

Superbowl Champs is spelled with an "a" not an "i."

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Banjer
Date: 16 Sep 03 - 08:58 PM

Did I miss something here??

Subject: RE: The Bluegrass Shop, St Petersburg FL
From: Bobo
Date: 16 Sep 03 - 10:04 PM

Champs with an "i" is Chimps. That is the way the Bucs played. You missed nothing, even if you watched the game. Feel adjusted now?