A new definition of 'folk' & 9/11

Subject: RE: A new definition of 'folk' & 9/11
From: Big Mick
Date: 09 Sep 02 - 08:01 AM

Orac, I tire of folks like you. I have a simple truth for you. We are not you. Where you are you may do as you like. Where we are, we will do as we please. Brits and Irish people drive on the wrong side of the road to us and most of the world. So what? When in Rome and all that.

I have great respect for the various cultures and societies of the world. I revel in our differences. It is the spice that gives the world flavor. But I am tired of folks from other countries telling Americans what is wrong with us. When we do that you accuse of us trying to strip you of identity and make the world "americanized". We are who we are, you are who you are. We should enjoy that which is different and revel in what we have in common.

And to me it is always referred to as September 11.

Mick

Subject: RE: A new definition of 'folk' & 9/11
From: Orac
Date: 09 Sep 02 - 07:48 AM

You might think I'm being pedantic but most people are unused to this backwards American dating. As time passes I find that even I keep thinking that it is 9th Nov despite knowing when it was. I'm quite sure that if scoolchildren over here were asked a question about it being given the above information they would get the date wrong. Americans are not even consistant abot this.. Independance day is usually 4th July not July 4 ...

Subject: RE: A new definition of 'folk' & 9/11
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 09 Sep 02 - 07:35 AM

This side of the pond (Wales) we know what you mean by 9/11, ever since last year, but prior to that it was just your emergency services number.

I've heard of lots of plans for a minute's silence on Wednesday, and will keep you in my thoughts

Nigel

Subject: RE: A new definition of 'folk' & 9/11
From: greg stephens
Date: 09 Sep 02 - 07:27 AM

I think youre being a little pedantic Orac. I think we mostly know what 9/11 means by now, however we may write dates where we live. Keep the songs coming, InOBU/Larry

Subject: RE: A new definition of 'folk' & 9/11
From: Orac
Date: 09 Sep 02 - 05:05 AM

Just an irritating point... to most people in the world 9/11 is the 9th of November... I'm sure thats not what you mean.

Subject: RE: A new definition of 'folk' & 9/11
From: Skipper Jack
Date: 09 Sep 02 - 04:50 AM

I agree with your sentiments all the way.

Subject: RE: A new definition of 'folk' & 9/11
From: smallpiper
Date: 09 Sep 02 - 04:39 AM

Keep at it Larry - more people listen than you think (even if they don't know it).

Subject: A new definition of 'folk' & 9/11
From: InOBU
Date: 09 Sep 02 - 04:09 AM

Well, I don't want to sound like the Rodney Dangerfield of folk... ("I don't get no respect..." for our British and other overseas folkies who may not know Rodney...) But, I was thinking of what it is to be a folk singer these days... after being asked to sing at a commemoraiton of 9/11 in Washington Square Park... the evening of the 10th... right after they turn off the sound system for all the people with a name...
What is in a name? I recall our dear Phil Ochs saying, in Toronto, shortly before he took his own life, (the pain of no one listening) I think I can rememeber pretty well, "I'm going to do a protest song for you nice people... what is a protest song? It is a song you don't hear on the radio, because they say the words are no good, or the guy can't sing... while they are playing the crap they play... "
and there it is, we go on singing truth to power, we the unsigned bands, who as a result only get played on non-cmercial radio, get to sing our lungs out after the "real music" goes home, we get to busk on the subway, in hundred degree heat, or freezing our fingers in gloves with the digits cut out, so that some folks can give us the "look at the beggar" gaze, or so we can be run off by some scab with a licence to play from the state... so we keep on singing and playing, and folks ask me, like they did in Easton today, "Why can't we get your CDs in the music stores?" and we keep at it,
and I don't know why... cause we can't help it?
Becasue it is 4 AM in New York, a year on, and, well...
Larry