Hungarian music?

Subject: Hungarian music?
From: Susan A-R
Date: 09 Sep 02 - 10:24 PM

I'll be traveling in Hungary in mid/late October, and would like to both listen to some folk music before I go, and find some while there. I am particularly interested in Gypsy music and fiddle music. Also, if anyone knows of good violin makers there, I may be ready for an upgrade. I know that there are builders out there, but can't find specifics.

Susan A-R

Subject: RE: Hungarian music?
From: Kaleea
Date: 10 Sep 02 - 04:45 AM

Try going to the library & listening to the music of Franz Liszt, Gyorgy Cziffra, Bela Bartok. & go to this site (sorry about no clicky thingie): http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cvesei/test.html

Subject: RE: Hungarian music?
From: GUEST,Jane Bird
Date: 10 Sep 02 - 09:53 AM

Susan,

I hope to be off to Hungary next summer, to an international folk festival. I'm sorry I can't offer you any advice at the moment, but I should be extremely interested to hear about you found!

Jane

Subject: RE: Hungarian music?
From: michaelr
Date: 10 Sep 02 - 03:27 PM

The only Hungarian band I can think of is Muszikas who have been recording since the 80s, I believe. Their former singer, Marta Sebestyen, has released some solo work as well. Check it out!

Cheers,
Michael

Subject: RE: Hungarian music?
From: GUEST,Three Chords
Date: 10 Sep 02 - 03:31 PM

In Hungary, there is a very vital folk music, dance, and folk arts movement that centers around the Tanchaz--there are Tanchaz everywhere, each reflecting the local tastes and tradition--here is a link for the national guild there is info on festivals, events, and of course, addresses for all the member Tanchaz--don't forget to hit the link at the top so you can read it all in English! Tanchaz Guild

Subject: RE: Hungarian music?
From: Mrrzy
Date: 11 Sep 02 - 10:35 AM

Tanc=dance, haz-house - don't try to pronounce the CH as in any other language.

I know a ton of Hungarian songs... some of which are gypsy, some not. Maybe we can get a song circle or something before you go?

Subject: RE: Hungarian music?
From: GUEST,boromir
Date: 11 Sep 02 - 11:31 AM

Liszt and Brahms wrote music in the gypsy vain.
Many think that this is true Hungarian.
If the Magyar style you really wish to know.
To the works of Bartok and Kodaly you must go.

Subject: RE: Hungarian music?
From: Abuwood
Date: 11 Sep 02 - 12:47 PM

I've got a Hungarian flute, and some music for it but not violins sorry. Do you know that some Hungarian fiddles only have 3 strings? There is a music museum in Kecskemet, Leskowsky Hangszergyujtemeny, which is a must see, 100's of different instruments which he will let you play if he knows you are a musician. This town is also the home of the Kodaly Institute of music. If you email me at [e-mail] I can give you the name of a folk musician in that town who plays violins and cymbalon named Zoltan

Subject: RE: Hungarian music?
From: Kim C
Date: 11 Sep 02 - 02:13 PM

Agreeing with Guest Boromir--- From what I understand, Liszt and Brahms capitalized on the popularity of Gypsy music and composed their own fanciful versions of it, based on what their perceptions of it were. And don't get me wrong, it's very good. It just isn't true Hungarian music.

Bartok... oh yeah, I remember Bartok from my classical days. I thought his music was a little strange. I think that has more to do with the time period, than his Hungarianness.

If you can find out anything about Janos Bihari - well, you'd be way ahead of me. He was a hugely popular composer and violinist in the 19th century, and apparently none of his works exist in printed form outside a library in Budapest.

Subject: RE: Hungarian music?
From: Susan A-R
Date: 11 Sep 02 - 09:46 PM

Thanks much. A hands-on museum of musical instruments? WOW! This is a must. And I'd heard about the Tanchaz concept. Thanks so much for the website. Our household has quite a lot of Bartok, as I'm married to a pianist who's fond of the guy (not so much fondness for liszt though. Boromir's right on.)

We are in the process of hooking up a new computer which may enable me to hook into song circles. YES!

Thanks again.

Susan

Subject: RE: Hungarian music?
From: Bearheart
Date: 18 Sep 02 - 12:31 PM

Hi,

Musikas is great. There are other folks out there too. Large Hungarian communities in Cleveland,Pittsburgh, DC NJ and other unlikely places. Many of them still stay in close contact with "home". My mother grew up in such a community in Hazelwood in Pittsburgh-- my grandfather played violin in a gypsey band as a young man. There's still a lot of that going on. The embassy in DC is very helpful-- and there's a Tanchaz group in DC. They and a guy in Cleveland bring in musicians to do concerts all the time. There also used to be a dance camp somewhere out East, and the Bethlen Home in western PA used to do a summer camp for kids with Hungarian culture and language classes. The last time I went was as a young kid back in the 60s so I don't know if it's still going. There is a dance group out of Cleveland that does performances-- the Ohio Arts Council would know, they help fund their performances for Ohio school kids. That group has a lot of direct connections with flok music/dance in Hungary.

Good Luck!

Bekki

Subject: RE: Hungarian music?
From: An Croenen
Date: 18 Sep 02 - 04:47 PM

I'm a Big fan of Muszikas (try their cd Blues for Transylvania for instance), and saw them perform several times in Belgium, this was before the Wall came down, and it was absolutely beautiful. Marta Sebestyen has since also done experimental stuff that I didn't like (cfr. her cd. Apocrypha). When you listen to Muszikas you learn a lot about the classical composers such as Bartok. It was not uncommon to take a traditional song and arrange it in a clean-classical way. Personally, I prefer 'the real thing', because it has so much life and soul in it. Jane: I would love to go to a music festival in Hungary, so if you have more details, please let me know..Mrrzy: are you based in England? Have a wonderful trip to Hungary, Susan! An

Subject: RE: Hungarian music?
From: Stewart
Date: 18 Sep 02 - 05:15 PM

Sandra Layman a violinist in Seattle has traveled and studied gypsy music in Romania and probably could give you some advice. Her recent CD - Little Blackbird: Klezmer, Romanian, Greek, Turkish, and Hungarian music is a great collection of this music. Here is her web site for further info CLICK HERE

Cheers, S. in Seattle

Subject: RE: Hungarian music?
From: CraigS
Date: 18 Sep 02 - 05:20 PM

Doesn't matter where you go in Hungary, somewhere in town will be an old inn where people are dancing to the accompaniment of fiddle, accordeon,guitar and at least three people playing the fanciest Appalachian dulcimers you ever saw.

Subject: RE: Hungarian music?
From: GUEST,Simone
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 07:32 PM

Marta Sebestyen's latest "I Can See The Gates of Heaven" is traditional Hungarian folk. Really lovely.

http://lucidculture.wordpress.com/2010/01/28/cd-review-marta-sebestyen-i-can-see-the-gates-of-heaven/

Subject: RE: Hungarian music?
From: Jack Campin
Date: 04 Feb 10 - 07:56 PM

I have a lot of links to some kinds of Hungarian music on my site:

http://www.campin.me.uk/Travel/Romania2008/

There is also this thread to look at:

Transylvanian violin music

Subject: RE: Hungarian music?
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Mar 12 - 08:41 PM

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