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Lyr Req: West Coast of Clare

aaron.mccormack@concert.com 26 May 98 - 05:26 PM
Jon W. 26 May 98 - 05:58 PM
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Wolfgang Hell 09 Jun 98 - 08:57 AM
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Turlough 12 Aug 04 - 05:14 AM
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Subject: West Coast of Clare
From: aaron.mccormack@concert.com
Date: 26 May 98 - 05:26 PM

looking for the lyrics to a song called the West COast of Clare

first line is "Sorrowness, Sadness Bitterness, Grief"

any help would be gratefully appreciated

cheers aaron


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Subject: RE: West Coast of Clare
From: Jon W.
Date: 26 May 98 - 05:58 PM

It's on Planxty's self-titled album. If no one beats me to it I'll get the words tomorrow or the next day.


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE WEST COAST OF CLARE (Andy Irvine)
From: Jon W.
Date: 27 May 98 - 04:48 PM

Here it is. It was written by Andy Irvine of Planxty.

THE WEST COAST OF CLARE
(Andy Irvine)

Sorrow and sadness,
Bitterness, grief
Memories I have of you
Won't leave me in peace
My mind is running back
To the West Coast of Clare
Thinking of you
And the times we had there

I walked to Spanish Point
I knew I'd find you there
I stood on the white strand
And you were everywhere
Vivid memories fade
But the mood still remains
I wish I could go back
And be with you again

In Milltown there's a pub
It's there that I sat down
I see you everywhere
Your face is all around
The search for times past
Contains such sweet pain
I'll banish lonesome thoughts
But they'll return again

I walk along the shore
The rain in my face
My mind is numb with grief
Of you there is no trace
I'll think of this again
When in far-off glens I rove
Walking with you
By this cold Atlantic flow

Sorrow and sadness,
Bitterness, grief
Memories I have of you
Won't leave me in peace
My mind is running back
To the West Coast of Clare
Thinking of you
And the times we had there


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Subject: RE: West Coast of Clare
From: Wolfgang Hell
Date: 09 Jun 98 - 08:57 AM

This was the first song I ever tried to find out the lyrics by myself. A hard job it was and only partially successful. Now of course, with the Andy Irvine songbook "Aiming for the heart" at home I even can post a minor correction. "White Strand" should be in capitals, it's a place name over there.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: West Coast of Clare
From: Jon W.
Date: 09 Jun 98 - 10:48 AM

Thanks, Wolfgang, I'm not up on Irish geography - all I know is what I've learned from folk songs and album liner notes.


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Subject: RE: West Coast of Clare
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 03:39 AM

Do 'we' have the tune for this?

Regards, John


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Subject: RE: West Coast of Clare
From: Turlough
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 05:14 AM

Jon,

I could really recommend the west coast of Clare, the actual place, that is ;-) Milltown is actually Milltown Malbay (two small villages joined together). Not very spectacular on its own, but every summer they host the Willy Clancy festival. Lots of great musicians and singers. The White Strand has some nice scenery (mainly cliffs), and there's a campsite as well... Right, enough of this tourist information stuff ;-)

John, "I" have the tune for this, and I could try to make a MIDI out of it, so "you" can have it as well :-)

T.


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Subject: RE: West Coast of Clare
From: Turlough
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 05:49 AM

Hah, even better, I discovered that somebody already made a MIDI file for the song, it can be found here

I'm not completely satisfied with this version, though, but then again I'm only familiar with Niamh Parson's version (on the cd "Heart's Desire", with Graham Dunne). Still, I hope it is of any use.

T.


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Subject: RE: West Coast of Clare
From: John in Brisbane
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 08:55 AM

Thanks Turlough, I'll wait for confirmation from Joe/MMario that the tune has not been submitted. I'll be in the tropics until about 25 Aug, will check on my return.

Regards, John


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Subject: RE: West Coast of Clare
From: Big Tim
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 09:06 AM

Andy sang the sung on the Planxty Renunion tour (2004), a performance which I'd class as one of those that's better than the original.


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Subject: RE: West Coast of Clare
From: PoppaGator
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 04:38 PM

Also on that coast are the spectaclar Cliffs of Moher and the wee village of Doolin, home to Gus O'Connor's justly famous pub.

I was there almost exactly one year ago, on my first visit to Ireland, during the warmest summer in history -- much cooler and drier than New Orleans in August, of course. And, of course, the sun was up all day and half the night. Wish I could be there now.


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Subject: RE: West Coast of Clare
From: Turlough
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 08:28 PM

PoppaGator,

yes, Doolin is a great place, although it tends to get a bit crowded during summer... As for the Cliffs of Moher, well, I visited them once, but the fog was so thick that I couldn't see the ocean, let alone the cliffs. For me, they'll always be "The white cliffs of Moher", even though they aren't really white ;-)

T.

P.S.: Did you know that there's a tune called "The Cliffs of Moher"?


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Subject: RE: West Coast of Clare
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Aug 04 - 11:06 PM

I've often wondered why "The WEST Coast of Clare", isn't that Clare's ONLY coast?


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Subject: RE: West Coast of Clare
From: Wolfgang
Date: 13 Aug 04 - 05:47 AM

No, one can argue that there is a South coast at the Shannon estuary.
click for a small map

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: West Coast of Clare
From: Big Tim
Date: 13 Aug 04 - 08:59 AM

Ana a north coast too, from Black Head east to County Galway.


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Subject: RE: West Coast of Clare
From: PoppaGator
Date: 13 Aug 04 - 12:37 PM

Turlough -- The day I visited the Cliffs was bright and sunny with a clear blue sky, not a cloud. It was absolutely spectacular.

Only minor complaint: the place was crowded with tourists from all over Europe and the world. Of course, that was good news for the hustlers selling jewelry, etc., and the (generally excellent) buskers.

Gus O'Connor's in Doolin was fairly crowded that evening, but not so badly that four of us couldn't find a place to sit together. The music was great -- although I was a little surprised that a "traditional" session included an electric keyboard (played strictly as a bass).

Also saw a (dry) turlough during our two days in Clare, a few miles inland in The Burren, out the back window of Cassidy's Pub, where the menu features lambburgers.


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Subject: RE: West Coast of Clare
From: Turlough
Date: 13 Aug 04 - 12:55 PM

PoppaGator,

that couldn't have been me you saw in The Burren. I NEVER dry out when I'm in Ireland ;-)

T.


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Subject: RE: West Coast of Clare
From: JennyO
Date: 13 Aug 04 - 12:58 PM

Great to hear that you enjoyed Doolin and the Cliffs of Moher, PoppaGator. Three years ago when I was there, I found Gus O'Connor's crowded too, but a group of us were able to work our way in, and someone lent me their bodhran to play as well. We were also lucky to have a lovely sparkling sunny day to visit the Cliffs. The view was magnificent.

Funnily enough, I was showing the photos of my trip, and some of my little souvenirs of Doolin, to a friend only last night. I hadn't looked at the photos myself for probably 2 years.

Jenny


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Subject: RE: West Coast of Clare
From: PoppaGator
Date: 15 Aug 04 - 08:13 PM

JennyO:

You may remember that last summer, when I was seeking advice in preparation for my trip to England and Ireland, you were kind enough to refer me to lodgings in Doolin.

(Anyone seeking any one-year-old info on such travel, see this thread .)

I passed the information along to my brother, who lives in England and had taken charge of making reservations, etc. As it happened, the landlady of that B&B in Doolin quoted us a price per *room* (twin or double) whereas all the other establishments we contacted gave their prices per *person*. So, we mistakenly thought that the woman in Doolin was charging double what most other places wanted (60 euros vs 30), and we booked logdings in Lisdoonvarna instead of Doolin.

The innkeeper at the Burren Breeze in Lisdoonvarna was nice enough, but I can't help regretting that we didn't take the rooms in Doolin. Our last two nights in Ireland were in there in Clare, and the very last night was the *only* less-than-wonderful experience of our trip.

We were anticipating an early getaway the next morning, to make a mind-morning flight out of Shannon. We walked a few blocks into downtown Lisdoon and found a hotel dining room advertising "early bird specials." We went in, found a table, and ordered. Two hours later, we were still waiting for our "early bird" meals, while listening to a 20-minute tape loop of bad disco music, repeating over and over. The food was OK when it finally came, but fairly expensive -- only one of the four of us qualified for the early-bird price because of minor subsitutions to the basic menu. (We had asked, "Is it OK to have mash rather than chips?" or whatever, and the answer was yes.)

After that, we were completely out of euros and so weren't ready to spend a last half-hour or so in the one nearby pub we found with decent live music.

Somehow, I think that if we had been in lovely little Doolin that evening, we wouldn't have experienced that sereis of minor disappointments, and our visit would have been 100% great. Sorry we didn't take your recommendation!


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Subject: RE: West Coast of Clare
From: JennyO
Date: 15 Aug 04 - 10:19 PM

Sorry to hear that, Poppagator. But it's nice to know the lovely people at Pairc Lodge have not priced themselves out of existence after all. I'll know where to stay when/if I get a chance to stay there again. As well as being a lovely place and very close to town, they were so helpful, and breakfast was delicious and was served quickly - but you don't want to know about that, do you ;-)

Jenny


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Subject: RE: West Coast of Clare
From: PoppaGator
Date: 15 Aug 04 - 10:59 PM

We stayed at three different B&Bs that week in Ireland, two nights each. Breakfast was great everywhere; my mouth still waters to think about those meals. In fact, I've been thinking about posting an essay on "Breakfast: full Irish vs US diner," following up on recent threads on "American [fast-food] Travelogue" and "Comfort Food."

The place in Lisdoonvarna was less homelike that the other two B&Bs we had just visited, more like an American motel, but it was fine -- different from the other two, but not really better or worse.

The proprietor reduced our rate when we realized how early we would have to leave on our final morning, suggesting that we eat breakfast at the airport instead, on him. That turned out to be a good idea, better than rousting the missus out of bed to make us an extra-early meal that we would have to eat in a hurry. (She would have done it had we asked, but everyone was better off by their "rebating" us the price of four breakfasts.)

Our less-than-perfect final evening wasn't the B&B's fault, except insofar as it was located in the one larger town rather than lovely little Doolin.


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Subject: RE: West Coast of Clare
From: s6k
Date: 16 Aug 04 - 07:25 PM

cliffs of dooneen also contains this line


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Subject: RE: West Coast of Clare
From: The Shambles
Date: 16 Aug 04 - 07:27 PM

Where you stay is important.

Our first week was in Kerry. I fell down the spiral staircase in the place we were staying which resulted in two days in Tralee General Hospital and seriously affected my banjo playing.

The second week was the west coast of Clare and we stayed in a bungalow, where there were no stairs for me to fall down..........


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Subject: RE: West Coast of Clare
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 16 Aug 04 - 07:37 PM

Went there in the 60's and 70's; beautiful weather, fantastic views, and no tourist paraphernalia then, even though the cliffs were already famous from the film "Ryan's daughter".
Must go back one day for the legendary music!


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Subject: RE: West Coast of Clare
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Aug 04 - 08:20 PM

.... Did the banjo playing improve?


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Subject: RE: West Coast of Clare
From: PoppaGator
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 01:21 PM

CAN banjo playing improve?

(sorry -- couldn't resist)

;^)


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Subject: RE: West Coast of Clare
From: The Shambles
Date: 17 Aug 04 - 03:03 PM

I got some interesting looks walking through a 'Willy Week' Milltown Millbay, carrying the banjo and having my arm in sling. As if I was thought to be a little optimistic. But if I used my good arm to take my bad arm out of the sling and place it on the banjo, it was just possible, if more than a little painful to play.

I am not sure if banjo playing can generally improve, but I don't think mine improved much as a result and I would not recommend that others fall down stairs in order to try. But as it was one of the main reasons for our visit - I was determined to play somehow.

And my banjo playing was only imposed upon the fine folk of Clare, who may have found the experience painful also but had the good manners not to complain. I ended up playing with a 'zouk' player who had also injured himself in the past, in a similar manner and also ended up in the same Kerry hospital!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: West Coast of Clare
From: Andrez
Date: 19 Jun 05 - 03:28 AM

Hi,

Would anyone know of the whereabouts of anything that approximates the standard music notation for this tune at all? I want to teach it to my daughter. Have been searching on the net with little luck for some time. Any tips or links would be much appreciated.

Cheers,

Andrez


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: West Coast of Clare
From: Wolfgang
Date: 19 Jun 05 - 07:59 AM

I'm fairly sure it is with notation in Andy Irvine's songbook Aiming for the heart (I can't look right now for I'm not at the place all my songbooks are).

Andrez, send me a PM with your snali mail address and I'll send you a xerox soon if the songbook has the notation.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: West Coast of Clare
From: MartinRyan
Date: 06 Feb 12 - 03:49 AM

Andy Irvine singing this one...

Click here

Regards


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