DTStudy: Rolling Home to Dear Old England

Subject: RE: DTStudy: ROLLING HOME to Dear Old England
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 18 Feb 09 - 02:20 PM

Brassen- the main braces, according to Cassell's Wörtenbuch.

Subject: RE: DTStudy: ROLLING HOME to Dear Old England
From: GUEST,Fred B.
Date: 19 Jan 10 - 10:51 AM

Just looking on the web about this, I found a reference from the National Library of Australia which credits the tune (not specified) to Weiss, WH (Willoughby Hunter) 1820-1867. They offer a score for 5p, which I didn't look at. The website is:

catalogue.nla.gov.au/Record/20537

Subject: RE: DTStudy: ROLLING HOME to Dear Old England
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 19 Jan 10 - 11:59 AM

Excellent thread and very informative.
Weiss also provided the tune to Longfellow's 'The Village Blacksmith'.
1855.
I have a copy of MacKay's 'Ballads and Lyrics' published in 1859, but all of the collected material within predates the 'Rolling Home' publication.
An original set of words appears on a broadside at Bodleian Firth c16 (386) website.

Something disturbs me from the earliest postings on this thread. There is a suggestion that because we know who wrote it it can't be traditional. Surely no-one still follows this pointless dogma!

Subject: RE: DTStudy: ROLLING HOME to Dear Old England
From: GUEST,ron gillis
Date: 29 Sep 10 - 09:23 PM

i'm 71 years old and when i was born my father was 50. he was born in 1889 in newfoundland and spent his life on the sea, from two masted schooners to steamships and ended up as cook on the last schooner fishing from boston (the adventure.) i wish i could remember all the words but his version smelled of the north atlantic. "high aloft amidst the rigging, midst the freezing ice and snow." it was sung to the tune of kevin barry

Subject: RE: DTStudy: ROLLING HOME to Dear Old England
From: katlaughing
Date: 29 Sep 10 - 09:29 PM

ron gillis, wow! Thanks so much for posting. We'd love to hear more of your father, if you feel so inclined.

Welcome to the Mudcat!

All the best,

kat

Subject: RE: DTStudy: Rolling Home to Dear Old England
From:
Date: 14 Jun 14 - 10:14 AM

In 2002, a GUEST posted information on a version of this song in the Library of Congress as part of the Cowell Collection. He didn't have a link to the audio. Rolling Home to Dear Old England Song was sung by Leighton Robinson, Alex Barr, Arthur Brodeur, and Leighton McKenzie, performers.

Subject: RE: DTStudy: Rolling Home to Dear Old England
From: toadfrog
Date: 21 Jul 14 - 07:54 PM

When I was growing up, that was sung to the same tune as "Kevin Barry." Where did people get the minor-key tune they always sing it to, and why?

Subject: RE: DTStudy: Rolling Home to Dear Old England
From: Joe Offer
Date: 22 Jul 14 - 03:51 AM

Hi, Toadfrog -
I saw that a couple of weeks ago in the Rise Up Singing songbook. I tried to sing "Rolling Home" to the tune I know for "Kevin Barry," and I couldn't get it to work.
Anybody know where I can find a recording of "Rolling Home" sung to the tune of "Kevin Barry"?

This is the tune I know for "Rolling Home: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25uLx3uyca0

And this is the one I know for "Kevin Barry":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxlNcSv5ypQ

Oh, this rendition of "Rolling Home" is close to the tune I know for "Kevin Barry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nvr9LvA70LE

-Joe-

Subject: RE: DTStudy: Rolling Home to Dear Old England
From: Lighter
Date: 22 Jul 14 - 08:19 AM

By traditional standards, they are all very similar. Close enough to be on the "identical tune" thread.

The YouTube performance has some very modern touches though, mainly in delivery.

On a related issue, why would Scottish sailors prefer the fancy-pants, Latinate "Caledonia" to the perfectly idiomatic and instantly comprehensible "bonnie Scotland"? And why do folkies?

Subject: RE: DTStudy: Rolling Home to Dear Old England
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 12 Sep 14 - 03:44 PM

ROLLING HOME (LOW GERMAN)

Lyr, Add: DOR FOHR VUN HAMBORG MOL SO'N OLEN KASSEN
Rolling Home; Low German

Dor fohr vun Hamborg moi so'n olen Kassen
Mit Namen heet he Magelhan,
Dor weer bi Dag keen Tied tom Brassen,
dat leet man all'ns bit Obends stohn.

*(German refrain )
Segler heim, Segler heim,
Segler heim, wohl übers Meer,
Segler heim, zu deutschen Heimat,
Segler heim Feinslieb zur dir.

Rolling home, rolling home
Rolling home across the sea
Rolling home to di, old Hamborg
Rolling home, mien Deern to di

Bi Dag, dor kunn dat weihn un blasen,
dor wör noch lang keen Hand anleggt.
Doch so an'n Obend no veer Glasen,
denn wör de ganze Plünnkrom steckt.
Rolling home, &c.

Dat weer so recht den Ohln sien Freeten,
dat gung em öber Danz un Ball
harr Janmaat graad de Piep ansteken
den rööp de Ohl: Pull Grootmarsfall.
Rolling home &c.

Dat kunn den Kerl verdeubelt ropen,
Dat weer em just so no den Strich,
Man schraal de Wind denn noch 6 Streeken,
Wat weer der Kerl denn gnatterich.
Rolling home, &c.

Un unsen heiligen stillen Freedag
wat doch uns höchste Festdag is
un unsen heiligen Buß- und Beeddag
dor seggt de Ohl: Dat giff dat nich
Rolling Home &c.

Jedoch so recht bi Licht bekeeken
do weer uns Ohl nach lang nicht slecht
harr Smutje mol een Swien afsteken
trangscheer he sülben dat torecht
Rolling home, &c.

De Lüüd de kreegn so recht dat Lopen
se freiten sik, ik weet nich wie
se kregen von dat swien de Poten
un gele Arfensupp dorbi
Rolling home, &c.

Oh, Magelhan, du olen Kassen,
dit Leed schall die een Denkmol sien.
Bi Snee un Reg'n wascht Jan Maat Masten,
un achtern suupt se unsen Kööm.
Rolling home, &c.

(German refrain, var.)
*Wir fahre heim, fahren heim
fahren heim über die See,
Fahren heim zum geliebten alten Hamburg,
fahren heim, Geliebte, zu dir.
(The same song in standard German at www.hamburg.de /contentblob/2297172/data/rolling-home.pdf
C. 1870).
Versions sung on Youtube.

http://www.volksliederarchiv.de/text566.html

Subject: RE: DTStudy: Rolling Home to Dear Old England
From: MartinRyan
Date: 12 Sep 14 - 05:34 PM

Thanks for that, Q.

Regards