BS: Astrological Stats on Mudcatters-TWO

Subject: BS: Astrological Stats on Mudcatters-TWO
From: katlaughing
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 06:18 PM

Part One can be found HERE

I have copied the last few relevant postings from it, so that people can read the update easily.

This is a music thread as it may correlate to astrology. If you don't agree with the premise, please be respectful. Thank you, kat

Subject: RE: Astrological Stats on Mudcatters

From: Bearheart - PM

Date: 28 Aug 02 - 11:17 AM

In The Mudcat Shop: Winter/Spring , Aftermath


Well, I guess it was timely that I should check the Mudcat today-- been out of town much of the summer and not much free time when I'm here.
A while back, I emailed kat about resusitating this thread, but discovered she was inthe midst of moving and other trials and was not really available for comment.

Here is an update:

Due to urgency of other projects I put this project on hold in late winter/spring 2001. Did some work on it in the summer but lost my computer and my astrology program in June. Did not get computerized again till August due to cash flow problems. did not get astrology program in place till till early September. Like most people was struggling with the aftermath of 9/11 for the next few months. Also I had lost all my data, and had to comb through this thread to retrieve all the data I had accumulated (I have still not found the file with the charts that I printed off). I re-did all the charts and printed matter this spring/early summer and have been colating info.

Found that I could use more participants since many of the folks that sent me info do not have verifiable accurate birth times. That makes their data less useful for the project.

Hope this brings things up to date for folks. I have been hesitant to bring this all up again since it stirred up so much controversy, but I would like to progress on this project and currently I have fewer than 50 charts (even using other data sources than mudcat) that can actually be used for the study. I don't feel this is a satisfactory sample. So maybe interested people will contact me or know others not on this forum who ould participate?

Thanks!

Bekki


Subject: RE: Astrological Stats on Mudcatters

From: dorareever - PM

Date: 28 Aug 02 - 11:56 AM


I alredy know my chart birthchart,but maybe I will send you my data for helping you in you research.I love astrology,I don't like the way it's usually misunderstood.

Subject: RE: Astrological Stats on Mudcatters

From: GUEST,Marie - PM

Date: 28 Aug 02 - 03:16 PM


To Katlaughing (referring to your post on the 19/08/00) and others...
Did you know?!...

According to that song "This is the dawning of the Age of Aquarius" well, it seems we are already into it !!! Since the 20th January 1998 !... According to my book of Ephemerides: where we can see that this alignement of Jupiter and Mars talked about in the song occurs precisely in the sign of Aquarius !!! (Well, that was just for the anecdote !)

Subject: RE: BS: Astrological Stats on Mudcatters,br>
From: Bearheart - PM

Date: 18 Sep 02 - 01:33 PM


Dorareever, check your PMs, I have responded. Been out of town, etc for much of the last few weeks, sorry for the delay.
Bekki


Subject: RE: BS: Astrological Stats on Mudcatters

From: MAguest - PM

Date: 19 Sep 02 - 01:38 PM


Start anew_this is way long


Subject: RE: BS: Astrological Stats on Mudcatters

From: Sibelius - PM

Date: 19 Sep 02 - 05:22 PM


You're still collecting stats then, Bearheart?
Date 17th Jan 65 Time 07.20GMT Lat 53:26N Long 2:08W

I had this all done once, and I think it gives me Mercury, Venus and Asc in close conjunction in Capricorn, with Sun in Cap opposing Moon in Cancer. Dunno about the houses.

Music-wise: started playing guitar at 17, moderate singer at best, have dabbled in lots of other instruments but guitar still the main one. Occasional songwriter. Have played semi-professionally but not for a few years. Trad English and Irish (I like turning tunes into guitar solos - sounds self-indulgent, but I promise you I wait my turn in sessions!) US country and country rock.

That the sort of thing you want?

Subject: RE: BS: Astrological Stats on Mudcatters-TWO
From: katlaughing
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 06:22 PM

I have copied the last few relevant postings from it, so that people can read the update easily.

Subject: RE: BS: Astrological Stats on Mudcatters-TWO
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 06:24 PM

I have copied the last important posting.

I didn't think that Joeclone status was meant to allow you to delete postings that aren't in aggreement with your own belief system.

From: John from Hull Date: 19-Sep-02 - 05:54 PM

i reckon astrology is the biggest load of shit i have ever heard off.john

Subject: RE: BS: Astrological Stats on Mudcatters-TWO
From: katlaughing
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 06:32 PM

The above has absolutely no relevance whatsoever to this thread and was not included because of that. It has nothing to do with my being a joe clone nor my belief nor disbelief in anything except a strong desire to see Mudcatters being respectful of each other.

Generally a continuation thread has nothing copied from the previous thread and affords only a link for reference.

I pity you your fear.

Subject: RE: BS: Astrological Stats on Mudcatters-TWO
From: greg stephens
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 06:46 PM

Wow katlaughing can you really delete things from threads you dont like? how do you do that?BTW it might have been offensive and therefore deletable but I dont see how you can say it wasnt relevant.

Subject: RE: BS: Astrological Stats on Mudcatters-TWO
From: katlaughing
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 06:57 PM

I've been a joeclone, Greg, for quite some time. We are forbidden to delete things just becasue we may not agree with them and my record will bear out that I do NOT do that. If one doesn't want to read through the various things which prove that, they only need ask Joe Offer or Pene Azul for my references.

In THIS case, I copied what was relevant to Bearheart's study and that certainly does not include telling people who are interested in astrology that it is a "load of shit!" It had already been posted to the other thread and didn't bear repeating. IMO, no one is under any obligation to include ANY postings from a previous thread to which one starts a continuation thread. It was a courtesy. GUEST has shat on the collective rug again and is trying to stir it up.

That is the last I will say of it. This thread is for discussion of astrology by people who have an interest and know how to be respectful.

kat

Subject: RE: BS: Astrological Stats on Mudcatters-TWO
From: greg stephens
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 07:05 PM

you as katlaughing can say this is a thread for people who are respectful. I dont think you can say that as joe clone. the whole forum is full of direspecful remarks.I'm not condoning it, andI didnt make the disrespectful remark, and I didnt applaud it. But I do think you are confusing your personal opinion with your overall supervisory role.

Subject: RE: BS: Astrological Stats on Mudcatters-TWO
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 08:05 PM

I made the comment on the previous thread, I really do believe that astrology and similar fortune telling methods are a load of rubbish, however my comments were not intended to insult or offend anybody.Perhaps it would have been better if I had kept my comments to myself this time, I apologise to anyone that may have taken offence.cheers.john

Subject: RE: BS: Astrological Stats on Mudcatters-TWO
From: greg stephens
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 08:24 PM

Thank God, that's cleared up, let the thread continue.

Subject: RE: BS: Astrological Stats on Mudcatters-TWO
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 08:25 PM

The above has absolutely no relevance whatsoever to this thread and was not included because of that. It has nothing to do with my being a joe clone nor my belief nor disbelief in anything except a strong desire to see Mudcatters being respectful of each other.

Raise her to goddess status and it goes to her head.

There IS an attitude in this thread and its not the guest's.

Lighten up little meow mow, the world is watching.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Subject: RE: BS: Astrological Stats on Mudcatters-TWO
From: greg stephens
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 08:32 PM

Could this thread revert to astroloy? For example, do outbursts of rattiness on Mudcat follow the phases of the moon in any way? Or the constellations?

Subject: RE: BS: Astrological Stats on Mudcatters-TWO
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 08:38 PM

Dear Mr. Joe Offer,

It was a serious mistake making KatLaughing a clone.

Her flawed genetics are a poor match to your helix spiraled, magnanimus, libertarian philosophy.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Subject: RE: BS: Astrological Stats on Mudcatters-TWO
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 08:39 PM

In the case of one little pussycat it does appear to be a 28 day lunar cycle. I think you nailed it Mr. Stephens.

Subject: RE: BS: Astrological Stats on Mudcatters-TWO
From: greg stephens
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 08:47 PM

Gargoyle, dont try to drag me onto your team.I'm an observer here.I was trying to be light-hearted, and meant no implication about those cycles as you well know. GUEST was silly. Katlaughing was silly. Youre just being silly.Forget it.

Subject: RE: BS: Astrological Stats on Mudcatters-TWO
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 08:48 PM

From: GUEST Date: 13-Sep-00 - 11:24 AM

Bearheart said in her initial post that she would share her results with the forum and then gave an example that 80% of guitarists had Neptune in the 10th house (of career). That's a pretty high percentage and an interesting statistic, but what's more intriguing than that is why didn't the other 20% have Neptune in the 10th house of career? It's seldom you see any explanations or theories regarding the subjects that didn't fit the statistic. Probably for the same reason you never hear what the fifth doctor in the "four out of five doctors recommend Slayer aspirin" studies said: "For God's sakes, whatever you do, don't take Slayer aspirin. That stuff'll kill you!"

Subject: RE: BS: Astrological Stats on Mudcatters-TWO
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 08:49 PM

Astrology is silly...

Can we forget it?

Subject: RE: BS: Astrological Stats on Mudcatters-TWO
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 09:05 PM

In the initial thread, I found the following post from Bearheart most telling:

From: Bearheart Date: 17-Aug-00 - 01:56 AM

This IS fun! Didn't realize I'd raise so much comment.

I will tell you my first success story as an amateur astrologer. When I was 19 (5 years into my studies of astrology) I was having this sceptic discussion with a fellow student, whom I had known for some years, and who considered himself a scientist (he was also a musician and later left the sciences and went into threater, but that's another story...) So I said," get birth data for someone you know that I don't know. He decided to pick his current love interest. We set up a time and I read her chart. I described her physical characteristics-- weight, height, hair color, eye color and something of her general shape and bone structure, etc. Then I went on to tell him about her character. He never argued with me about astrology again. Of course I was young and foolish and into taking dares.I don't do that stuff any more.

And why don't you do that stuff anymore?

Because it's utter tripe and you can't actually do it.

If you were really able to tell peoples weight, height, hair color, eye color etc by merely reading a birth chart, you'd be a major scientific phenonomen, and probably a multi-millionaire.

But you can't, can you?

Subject: RE: BS: Astrological Stats on Mudcatters-TWO
From: Genie
Date: 19 Sep 02 - 09:51 PM

Well, I really don't put much stock in astrology. We Scorpios are a skeptical lot.

Genie

Subject: RE: BS: Astrological Stats on Mudcatters-TWO
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Sep 02 - 01:42 AM

Isn't this a speciality thread that is best discussed in the ANNEX???

Subject: RE: BS: Astrological Stats on Mudcatters-TWO
From: greg stephens
Date: 20 Sep 02 - 06:52 AM

The point that interested me earlier was whether the aappearance of GUESTS on Mudcat could be correlated with any astrological happenings: not the behavior of our hard-working Joe Clones. I wondered if it could be somethinglike a meteor shower.

Subject: RE: BS: Astrological Stats on Mudcatters-TWO
From: GUEST
Date: 21 Sep 02 - 07:06 AM

No, Greg

There is no meaningful correlation.