Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: Noreen
Date: 03 Feb 03 - 05:25 PM

http://www.louthtoday.co.uk/fullstory.asp?storyid=1

Mr Sharpley, the only remaining trustee, has said he is still trying to salvage the project.

Right, yeah....

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: GUEST,Guest.
Date: 03 Feb 03 - 06:15 PM

This guy Sharpleys a real artist, trustee!!!

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: GUEST,David
Date: 26 Feb 03 - 10:46 AM

just came across this whole saga today. i hope Bulmer'll get his come uppance. always thought he was a highly slimy and dodgy character. but then again, it is the record industry, scheming bastard company directors ripping off naive artists.

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 26 Feb 03 - 12:49 PM

Nice to hear from you David. If you think Bulmers a "highly slimy and dodgy character" go on to enjoy reading about the disgraceful Mr Sharpley. The two are thoroughly dishonest any way you care to examine them and their business practices. It looks as though Mr Sharpley after stealing from trusts in which he, in his capacity of solicitor, was an executor, will hopefully be looking now at several years inside. It is probable also that Bulmer will face charges very soon and with any luck could, himself, be behind bars which is exactly where he belongs. The problem is what will happen to the copyrights and recordings that they have puloined over the years? Anyone have any ideas?

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: winterchild
Date: 02 Mar 03 - 02:07 AM

Anything new on the Sharpley/Bulmer/Celtic Music saga?

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: GUEST,Eddie in Leeds
Date: 03 Mar 03 - 12:01 PM

Don't know much about Celtic although you can bet that someone is being screwed.   Bulmer continues to sell CD Roms as production CD's whilst the infamous Sharpley is due to appear at Leicester Crown Court on 8th May this year as part of the ongoing police prosecution. It seems also that at least another two people he has damaged (whilst as a "solicitor") are now sueing him for various malpractice. The good news is that these problems must by now be causing even him to loose sleep at night. Or perhaps not.....

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: GUEST,Eddie in Leeds
Date: 31 Mar 03 - 04:30 AM

News has reached me that Mr Sharpley and his business partner, Mr Bulmer, are again embarking on legal action against another prominent Scottish folk musician. When will these bully boys stop this crusade against the very musicians that have given them their wealth? Let it be an object lesson to anyone thinking about dealing with the pair of them - in the end you will be screwed.

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: GUEST,Richard L
Date: 31 Mar 03 - 09:35 AM

This has been going on for so long, I have to conclude that there may well be another side to the story. At least more than has been discussed at Mudcat. Messrs. Sharpley and Bulmer have been accused of a great deal of offensive behaviour, but apparently wake up every day, go about their business, play music (at least one of them) collect strange things, presumably hoist a few at the pub, sue (unamed) Scottish musicians, release recordings, and in general, enjoy life. When this series of Mudcat threads started, I was expecting to be reading about prison visiting hours (for sympathetic relatives) rather than each time one of the principals got a parking ticket.

Is this whole thing (these threads) simply a tempest in the folkie teapot, or has anything illegal actually transpired? Will we still be reading about this in halting increments a year from now? I don't have any direct connection with anyone involved, but have dealt with record company owners, hence my interest.

Richard L

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: Ralphie
Date: 01 Apr 03 - 06:32 PM

Guest Richard L..
Thank you for your thoughts.
The wheels of the judiciary grind exceedingly slowly, but, grind they will.
One day, my friend, One day.....
Kind Regards Ralphie

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: GUEST,Guest (CH)
Date: 15 Apr 03 - 06:16 PM

Was browsing around Barbara Dickson's site recently, www.barbaradickson.net, trying to locate a classic album called "From The Beggars' Mantle" and found this page:
        http://www.barbaradickson.net/discography_albums.html

Quote:
"1971 : FROM THE BEGGARS MANTLE...FRINGED WITH GOLD (Decca) LP only
Reissued by Celtic Music in 1985 on LP and cassette, and by Music By
Mail on CD (mail order only) in 2002"

So I searched for +"Music By Mail" +"Barbara Dickson" and found this:

Barbara Dickson.net - News - ... and is available by mail order only via Music By Mail at PO Box 182, Harrogate, North Yorkshire HG2 7XD. (Many thanks to Rob at the Barbara Dickson Shrine chat ...
www.barbaradickson.net/news.html    [More Results from www.barbaradickson.net]

The page linked is different now but note the address - another CD-R venture? Does Barbara get royalties? Presumably, 'cos why else would she link it? Does she know and/or care whether they're CD-Rs?

Dunno what to make of this ...

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: GUEST,Gerry.
Date: 15 Apr 03 - 08:39 PM

Celtic Music, Bulmer and Sharpley, OWN the rights to this and many
other back catalogues, and are perfectly within their rights to
re- issue them all under whatever format they chose.
This company has long traded beyond the bounds of decency, and as they are in serious need of quick money the views of those on this
and other forums concern them not.
Incerdible as it may seem 99 per cent of the music buying public
have never heard of the Mudcat Cafe or other forums and care little
about the rights of the artists in question, if people want to buy
these C.D's. C.D.R's or whatever they will do so, and Bulmer and
Sharpley will continue to pocket the money with a barely surpressed
chuckle.
Clan Alba, the Dransfields, the Watersons, Nic Jones, are all freely
available from this company, and others will follow.
No amount of waffling here will prevent this.

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: Peterr
Date: 16 Apr 03 - 11:54 AM

Website linked by jeri in January is no longer available, I have just discovered. I was completely ignorant of the whole saga, but find it morbidly fascinating, esp Ralphie's heartfelt comments.

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: Ralphie
Date: 16 Apr 03 - 07:45 PM

Peterrrrrrr!!! (How Many R's?!!)

Kind Thanks from me for your thoughts.
We are all just little people out here, and as GUEST Gerry quite rightly points out, who the Fuck has heard of Mudcat anyway?
No matter....
An injustice, is just that.

Happy Easter dear readers

Regards Ralphie

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: Ralphie
Date: 16 Apr 03 - 07:53 PM

Oh, and on a related point.
The kind people at Fellside records have just sent me the Martyn Whyndham Read double CD "Song Links".
Over and above the wonderful versions of lots of the songs that we all know and love performed by some righteous people, It includes what I presume to be the last recording by Tony Rose..."Sweet Jenny of the Moor"
Shame that Tony didn't live long enough to regain the rights of his own recordings......Guess who denied him?

Happy Easter again

Ralphie

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: Mary Humphreys
Date: 16 Apr 03 - 07:59 PM

Ralphie - have faith that good will prevail in the end.
And Happy Eastertide to you & Barbara.

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: Noreen
Date: 16 Apr 03 - 07:59 PM

And a happy Easter to you too, Ralphie...

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Apr 03 - 03:53 AM

Apparently Dave Bulmer lives just down the road from me. Should I ring his doorbell and run away?

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 22 Apr 03 - 01:22 PM

Trouble is he has probably got a foul temper and you will probably hear from his "solicitor". But it sounds like fun , so why not?

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: GUEST,Guest: Java Jive
Date: 05 Jun 03 - 08:05 PM

Re someone's earlier post, this site might be of interest:

        http://www.celtic-music.co.uk/index1.htm

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: Ralphie
Date: 06 Jun 03 - 10:51 AM

Hey Java...

Thanks for the link, but, as websites go, it leaves a lot to be desired...!

Nuff Said

Regards R xx

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: GUEST,Tony, Leeds
Date: 06 Jun 03 - 02:49 PM

The site is about exactly what you would expect from Mr Bulmer - cheap and out of date.

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: GUEST,Guest: Java Jive
Date: 30 Jun 03 - 04:29 AM

This from James Chokey in uk.music.folk

"""
I've heard that a label called Elegy has recently been re-releasing on
CD a bunch of British folk-rock bands from the 70s, including
Frogmorton, Wooden Horse, Maple Oak, Aubrey Small, and a few others.
"""

Does anyone know, would this be another CM venture, or completely unrelated?

Seems to have gone rather quiet in here ...

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: GUEST,Andy, Port Erin, I-O-M
Date: 06 Jul 03 - 09:26 AM

It does seem to have gone quiet. All interest in this man and his companies cannot be forgotten, surely? A diary note for any of you that might like to see at least one of the ghastly pair gets justice is 29th of September at Leicester Crown Court. The hairpin like former lawyer appears there on criminal charges. Word on the street is he would like as many of you to be there to support him!!!!! Ha bloody ha!

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: Leo Condie
Date: 18 Jul 03 - 10:07 AM

been any news on this lately? I am reading up on this whole saga with an extremely angry facial expression that seems to turn up whenever i think about the music business.

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: GUEST,Ralphie at work (as usual!)
Date: 18 Jul 03 - 03:55 PM

Hi Andy (IOM) and Leo..

No, no updates on the situation, but, thanks for refreshing this thread every now and again.

Nic himself is fine, saw him a few weeks ago, and actually beat him at Pool once!! (he's a devious b*****d sometimes, all this stuff with a walking stick, etc, but put a pool cue in his hand....!!)

Happy Summers to one and all

Ralphie

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: Leo Condie
Date: 18 Jul 03 - 04:30 PM

I just read up on the whole saga today, and it definitely seems to be a hefty scam that our friend mr bulmer is pulling off, though why exactly i can't quite ascertain - surely there's better ways to cheat the law for greasy onesers than to rip off folkies that don't make much as it is! anyway yes, good luck to all involved, and i really hope we can eventually get some proper laws in place to deal with these shysters. like the musicians union, ha...ha...ha...

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: Ralphie
Date: 18 Jul 03 - 08:50 PM

Oi Leo...
Don't get me started on the MU!
Ralphie

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 19 Jul 03 - 10:23 AM

Hi Leo. Does your Dad have any stuff with him?

Rick

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 19 Jul 03 - 01:53 PM

I must have fallen for one of Bulmer's CD-RWs! Bought a reissue of Ray Fisher's 'Bonnie Birdy' when in Scotland (can't remember where, unfortunately), and only took a closer look when it wouldn't play in my computer: Published by Leader, distributed by CM.

But maybe Mr Bulmer is simply desperate. Someone who'd spoken to him recently told me he was owed a lot of money by a lot of folkies ...

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: Ralphie
Date: 20 Jul 03 - 04:05 AM

Susanne..

Shouldn't your last sentence be the other way round?!...LOL!

As for Ray's album...Luckily, I've still got the original vinyl...It hasn't corrupted ...Yet!

Regards R

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 21 Jul 03 - 07:07 AM

To Suzanne. I used to know Bulmer well so it comes as no surprise to learn he believes he is owed money by folkies. Of course he believes this as he believes everyone owes him money! He will generate a bewildering assortmnent of incomprehensible paperwork to justify his claims and will, eventually, order the vile Sharpley to commence action - most likely in Great Grimsby County Court. That is how they operate. Beware. By the time Claims are filed (late) and musicians "notified" of the action (very late if at all, the case is as good as won. There are many cases to draw from and I saw Bulmer do these things many times and to his great satisfaction. To him its simply another way of making money, its a game and a game to which he is addicted. I say again, B E W A R E.

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 21 Jul 03 - 06:13 PM

Well, Guest - surely not the 'vile Sharpley' the next time? Didn't I hear he's been struck off for offences of his own?

Ralphie, remember to put your glasses on when on Mudcat! I said I was TOLD ... surprised me so much I clean forgot to buy an album by the guys Jordan and Dipper, plus a third (first) one whose name has sadly become the victim of a senior moment on my part :-)

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: Ralphie
Date: 22 Jul 03 - 03:30 AM

Susanne...Duly noted...!

And I'll even forgive your "Senior Moment"...Not sure that James Patterson will though (the 3rd member of what is now being referred to as "New Variant PJD")...
Should have got your copy when it was hot...waiting for a repress at the mo,

Cheers R

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: treewind
Date: 22 Jul 03 - 04:34 AM

Hey Ralphie - Sold out already?
Well done chaps!!!

Anahata
(we've shifted 25 so far, not doing too badly)

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: Ralphie
Date: 22 Jul 03 - 04:35 AM

Oi A..

Will you stop plugging. LOL!
And, where's my copy?
R

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Jul 03 - 08:33 AM

Suzanne. Sure he's been struck off but apparently it has not stopped his activities for Bulmer not one jot! The pair carry on as if nothing has happened and nothing can stop them although perhaps Mr Sharpley's appointment at the Leicester Crown Court shortly may have the effect that so many of us pray for.

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 23 Jul 03 - 08:45 PM

Thanks Ralphie for setting my mind at rest. And no disrespect intended to Mr Patterson!

Thanks Guest - how this is possible is beyond me. It's not the way we do things here in Germany ...

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Jul 03 - 04:32 AM

To Suzanne. It shouldn't happen in the UK either! Sharpley appears before a court or tribunal in one area and gets a knuckle rapping and a "telling off" and is able, next day figuratively speaking, to go to another court and make hell for a folkie musician. There is nothing "joined up" in the UK legal system and that is why Sharpley (as Bulmers bag carrier) is able to appear in courts as if nothing has happened to him. It must surely have come to the stage where a disgraced lawyer is required to disclose his status to the court particularly where he uses his former skills in an attempt to damage others. Naive perhaps but the deficiencies in the UK legal system have enabled Bulmer and Sharpley to scythe through all channels of decent business behaviour. If you think I'm wrong, simply refer to nearly all of their former business and music acquaintances - it's unlikely that a good word will be heard in their favour.

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: red max
Date: 31 Jul 03 - 05:10 AM

I think it's shameful that so many people are expressing very personal opinions about a bloke they don't really know. With that in mind I'm hereby providing some more specific information from a friend of mine that actually used to work for him. And I quote...

"Knowing him personally, I can confirm that he has absolutely no redeeming qualities, and is in fact an utter bastard! I enjoyed the work I did at CM, but hated Dave. Glad to hear that he is now almost universally hated....couldn't happen to a nicer bloke!"

So there you are, heh heh!

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: Leo Condie
Date: 31 Jul 03 - 10:18 AM

Rick: he doesn't, thankfully, but seemed suitably shocked when i told him about the whole thing. All his stuff (all one album!) is on his own label.

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: baur325
Date: 12 Aug 03 - 12:26 PM

http://www.louthchamberofbusiness.org.uk/members1.php

check out the above for amusement and click on "Marker", see if you can guess who that is?

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: GUEST,Max
Date: 12 Aug 03 - 12:33 PM

No, shewerly not. Not the great ingrate, the debagged, defrocked legal nobody Sharpley? I think we should be told - and also the good folk of Louth.

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: baur325
Date: 12 Aug 03 - 12:46 PM

for more fun see this

http://www.mudcat.org/detail.cfm?messages__Message_ID=1000915

well I reckon the chamber of business already know who it is.

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: GUEST,Eddie in Leeds
Date: 13 Aug 03 - 11:10 AM

It is totally astonishing. The man has no shame whatsoever. Don't know who the Stone Network are, but they sound "legit" yet how can they be if they have appointed a crooked legal agent to act for them? Having ripped off several of his personal clients, I wonder if he's found a new way of making money now that the Bulmer route to riches must be on its last legs. What a pair!

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: baur325
Date: 14 Aug 03 - 04:24 AM

I think it is legit too, but it was the righteous tone of the copyright message that bemused me, especially in the circs. See his MARKER message on the Louth Chamber of Business site for sheer brass neck.

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: baur325
Date: 14 Aug 03 - 04:29 AM

Mr. S does have another source of income. He has been clamping cars! No joke.

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: GUEST,Eddie
Date: 14 Aug 03 - 06:08 AM

Well...... after that, what? Perhaps recycling ice creams nicked from unsuspecting kiddies. I will watch with great interest how the defrocked one continues to climb the ladder of commerce.

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Sep 03 - 09:30 AM

see latest on clamping in "Neil Sharpley-Any News" thread. Isn't it time to start part 5?

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 29 Sep 03 - 11:57 PM

CORONER IN FRAUD TRIAL


10:30 - 29 September 2003

Former Louth coroner Neil Sharpley was due in court today accused of deception charges involving £47,000.

Sharpley (52), of Westgate, Louth, faces a charge of obtaining £25,000 from John Lewis in February 1997.

He faces a similar charge of deception involving £22,000 obtained from John Lewis in May 1997.

Both charges relate to money allegedly obtained to finance a music business.

Sharpley has denied both charges and was due to go trial at Leicester Crown Court.

Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (4)
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Oct 03 - 08:55 AM

EX-CORONER DENIES CHARGES


10:30 - 30 September 2003

Louth: The town's former coroner has denied deception charges involving a total of £47,000.

Neil Sharpley of Westgate, Louth, appeared in court yesterday and pleaded not guilty to a charge of obtaining £25,000 from John Lewis in February 1997.

The 52-year-old has also denied a similar charge of deception involving £22,000, which was also obtained from Mr Lewis, in May 1997.

Leicester Crown Court was today hearing legal arguments and a trial jury is expected to be sworn in later this week.