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Subject: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: GUEST,Joblessbloke
Date: 26 Sep 02 - 09:42 AM

Hi How can i maximise my earnings from street busking? What are the pitfalls? any tips please.


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: dermod in salisbury
Date: 26 Sep 02 - 01:28 PM

I can give you a tip from the point of view one among the stream of Joe Public who walks past numerous buskers every day. Be entertaining and good humoured. Smile a lot. Lift people's day a bit. And don't, at all costs, be yet another Bob Dylan clone doggedly strumming a small collection of chords and sing songs which are vaguely about the meaning of life. Busking, remember, is a branch of showbusiness.

Good luck.


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: jimmyt
Date: 26 Sep 02 - 02:25 PM

I think you have the right idea, after all, you are ASKING FOR TIPS! LOL


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: annamill
Date: 26 Sep 02 - 02:46 PM

Don't take any wooden nickles!!

I hope you do well.

;-) Love, Annamill


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: alanabit
Date: 26 Sep 02 - 03:00 PM

Have a look at some of the busking threads on this site. Good luck.Alan.


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: Art Thieme
Date: 26 Sep 02 - 03:06 PM

Always have change for a hundred dollar bill. ;-)

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: breezy
Date: 26 Sep 02 - 03:10 PM

What instrument are you playing? Whats your repertoire consist of? Where are you going to unleash yourself?


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: Sibelius
Date: 26 Sep 02 - 03:11 PM

Play a hammered dulcimer! Busker's dream instrument. It helps if you've got some tunes worked out, but because it's both resonant and has a limited range of keys, you can get away with doing barely more than hitting the strings and it will still sound nice. People generally haven't got a clue what it is, so it attracts attention - especially from children, and as soon as you've got their interest, their parents' wallets fall open!


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: GUEST,Mudjack
Date: 26 Sep 02 - 03:19 PM

Be sure to salt your case with a few dollar bills and a five. Just don't get excited when you forget you salted it and thought you made eight bucks for the day.Good luck and hope you learn a lot from the experience.
Mj


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: GUEST,Les B.
Date: 26 Sep 02 - 04:14 PM

Never loan your instrument to someone who can run faster than you!


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 26 Sep 02 - 04:54 PM

If you go to the main forum page, type "busk" (without quotes) into the filter box, set the Age limit as high as it will go, and click "Refresh", you will see maybe 20 old threads on busking.


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: GUEST,joblessbloke
Date: 26 Sep 02 - 05:33 PM

Thanks all


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: Marion
Date: 19 Jul 04 - 12:55 PM

Hello gang. Here are some suggestions that I've accumulated in my busking experiences. Additions and contradictions welcome. For what it's worth, my act is to stand there playing fiddle tunes - I don't bottle (directly solicit tips) or do banter, and somebody with a more "show business" kind of act might need to do some things differently.

CHOOSING A PLACE

1. Pick a spot where you're visible from as many directions as possible. People need time to recognize what you're doing, decide to give you a tip, and find it in their pockets. If they can see you for a minute before they're actually in front of you, they're a lot more likely to give you a tip then if they suddenly come upon you hidden in a doorway and only have seconds to react.

2. Be very considerate about where you set up, so that you avoid confrontation and avoid annoying the passersby. Be sure that you are not blocking smooth traffic flow into any store, and be sure that you're not making it difficult for wheelchairs or baby strollers to pass or get onto the curb. Also, avoid captive audiences (i.e., playing right beside a restaurant with outdoor seating).

3. One exception to what I just said about captive audiences is traffic lights - choosing intersections that have traffic lights is good, because being a briefly captive audience gives them the time they need to decide to give you a tip.

4. Stores that are out of business or closed for the weekend are often a good place to play in front of. There's nobody there to object to you, and often there's a doorway where you can put your backpack out of the way behind you, or a canopy to keep off the sun and rain. Don't stand yourself too far back in their doorway though; or you won't be visible enough.

5. When choosing a part of town to busk in, don't necessarily rule out areas with lower traffic, because often you can still make good money there, because finding you there is a pleasant surprise, and you're not competing with the panhandlers and other buskers the next block over or who were there yesterday. In a spot in my hometown where I consistently make excellent money, it's not unusual for me to play a set of tunes without anyone even walking by. But when they do come along, they give me something. But on the busiest city streets, or in a market where busking is more common, a much lower percentage of passersby give me something.

6. Many cities will have a downtown core and several smaller, alternative downtowns - perhaps a district that is known as being artsy, trendy, collegy. I've found that the minor downtowns are generally better than the main downtowns - people are happier, it's easier to get a corner.

7. Keep a respectful distance from other buskers, especially other musicians, but don't necessarily let a little piped in music push you around. A number of times I've tried out spots that seemed perfect except for an audible radio from a nearby business, but I found that I was still able to dominate the sound waves in the immediate area, and still did fine in tips. Obviously, if the piped in music is really blaring or you're really quiet this won't work.

8. I'd pick a less than perfect spot in the shade over a perfect spot in the sun. The real secret to making money busking is patience and stamina - and you'll have more patience and stamina if you're comfortable.

9. Keeping in mind that you should not get your legal advice from Mudcat: don't ask for permission to busk, don't ask if it's legal, just go ahead and do it. If someone confonts you, your line is a polite "I'm sorry, I didn't know, I'll be going now." The guerilla approach (not to be confused with the gorilla approach; leave that to the rentacops) is simple and effective and I've never gotten into any real trouble with it, even in places where I've known it was illegal. (I've been kicked out of lots of places, but that's not real trouble - real trouble is being fined, arrested, or beaten up.)

The cliche that it's easier to get forgiveness than permission is true. Also, the only laws that matter are the ones that anybody cares to enforce. If you are considerate in where you play, so you're not likely to tick anyone off, and you look good and sound good, chances are nobody will care enough to enforce the law.

If you are busking somewhere where you suspect or know it's illegal, remember the principle that "running makes you look guilty". So if a cop is around, just keep playing as if there's no problem - don't close your case or try packing up quickly. If you do, saying "I didn't know it wasn't allowed" will be much less believable.


WHILE BUSKING

10. Keeping in mind that you should not get your medical advice from Mudcat: a mild state of dehydration is your friend. Publically available washrooms aren't always easy to find, and it sucks to have to interrupt a good busking session, possibly losing your good spot to another busker, because you have to go pee. You'll need to have a water bottle along, but don't overdo it.

11. Coins dropped into your case from a height will sometimes bounce right out again. So take a quick look around the ground for stray coins when you're leaving, and don't put your case down beside a sewer grate (yes, learned the hard way). And while you're at it, don't put your case down anywhere you see a lot of pigeon droppings (no, not learned the hard way).

12. People will ask about lessons, so if you don't teach, consider carrying the phone number of your friend who does.

13. Be an opportunistic bastard. If Johnny Cash dies, get out there and play his hits. If the Blue Jays are in the Stanley Cup finals, wear something that implies you care.

14. Exploit children. If someone with a baby or toddler is stopped near you, play "Twinkle Twinkle Little Star". If it's a young child, ask if they have a favourite song - they'll probably say "Twinkle Twinkle Little Star." If it's a medium child accompanied by an adult and looking interested, consider offering to let them try your instrument (personally I always keep one hand on the fiddle while letting a kid try, and I take a peek at the cleanliness of their hands first).

Being kid-friendly has three advantages. One, it makes you more interesting to the kids and their parents, and kids and parents are often your best customers. Two, it will attract the attention of unrelated passersby who want to watch the cute kid dance or try to play fiddle. Three, it makes you feel like a bit of a folk missionary, giving the kids a chance to hear and try live acoustic music.

15. It's very common for someone to pass you once then give you a tip on a the way back, once they've had more time to think about or have gotten change at the store. What this means for you is that every time you start busking, you start with a slow stretch when everybody is a first-time passer. And every time you stop busking, you lose tips from the people who would have given you something on the way back. So, try to start and stop less often: i.e., if you're going to play for three hours in a day, you'll probably do better in two 90 minute shifts and three 60 minute shifts. Also, don't be in a rush to leave the spot when you're tired of playing. Have your break nearby. It's happened to me many times that people have approached me with a tip in the fifteen minutes after I stopped playing, saying, "I heard you earlier." On the other hand, sometimes people will say, "I'll get you on the way back", and sometimes they do, but don't make any decisions based on these promises.

16. If there are people stopped when you finish a tune, ask if they have a request. Even if you only know the chorus, or ear the song out with some trial and error, people appreciate your making an attempt at their requests.

17. Salt your case (put some of your own money in) with the kind of currency you want to attract. Peer pressure is a powerful force; people will look to other's example to see if they should give you a tip, and if so, how much. I've also noticed that tips often come in clumps - I go for ten minutes without a tip, then four people give me something within in the space 30 seconds. I suspect this is peer pressure; seeing the first person lets the others know that it's the thing to do.

18. If there's an alternative to money that you'd be happy to receive, consider salting your case with it too (subway tokens, Canadian Tire money, even food if you're in a market). Some people enjoy giving a concrete gift instead of money, and some people may suspect that you'll just buy drugs if they give you money. Often people will offer a cigarette, but if you smoke, I don't recommend putting cigarettes in the case to give people the idea, as it will likely drive away other customers.

OTHER

19. Sometimes, people steal from buskers. There's not really much you can do about it except minimize your losses by limiting how much money you let collect in your case. Do not chase a thief - to do so is to turn a non-violent encounter into a potentially violent one, and what are you going to do anyway, with a fragile and valuable instrument in your hands? Also, consider that criminals sometimes work in teams - someone who grabs some money may just be trying to distract you so his buddy can steal your whole case, or your backpack or spare instrument.

20. This is more of a long term strategy - but remember that busking depends on a publicly-owned, pedestrian-oriented scene. So do your shopping at businesses with downtown storefronts instead of malls or box stores where there's no public space or no pedestrians, and help keep downtowns alive! Also, I think it's good manners and good public relations to give your business to stores that you busk in front of, if practical.

21. Maybe this should have been tip number one: keep the faith. I know that many people have a lot of stage fright related busking (more so than playing gigs, it seems sometimes), and you will have good days and bad days and occasionally some encounters that aren't so nice. Keep at it - perseverance is the biggest factor in making you a successful busker. You'll get over your nervousness about performing on the street. You'll always earn something, even on a bad day, that you wouldn't have earned if you had practiced at home instead. You'll meet people who tell who how you've brightened their day, or how they played too back in the day, and kids will dance, and it'll make up for the bad days. And sometimes it'll feel like too good to be true - you're doing what you love to do, on your own terms, and people are throwing money at you!

Best of luck, Marion


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: Gypsy
Date: 19 Jul 04 - 11:32 PM

Learn to talk while playing! I thank every person who tips us, and as the hammered dulcimer player, MUST answer every question about my big funny looking instrument. The only person who is allowed to play without talking/smiling/thanking, is someone who's mouth is full.........of flute, that is!
We have sign on the case "Please support the arts" This works better than any other sign we have ever used, better by far than the tacky "tipping is NOT a city in china"


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: PoppaGator
Date: 19 Jul 04 - 11:56 PM

That is some *great* advice from Marion.

It's been 30 years since my streetsinging heyday, but I don't imagine things are much different now than they were then. I had "stage fright" briefly, the first couple of days I went out, but I managed to form the right attitude fairly quickly: Those who aren't interested will walk on by, while those who want to listen will (sometimes) stop, or at least slow down for a while. There's much less pressure to please an audience than with any "real" indoor gig, where people have expectations. Out on the street, no one is going to worry over how well you perform, so neither should you.

Depending upon the audio environment (how loud the street is), and also upon the nature of other busking acts in your vicinity, a solo act can be more difficult to pull off than a group. I always worked alone (guitar & vocal), and always made much more money in San Francisco in the summer than I could in New Orleans in the winter -- largely (I always assumed) because the tourists and locals in N.O. were accustomed to louder, more in-your-face group performances. In SF, I probably managed to fulfill tourist expectations of seeing real live hippies even though they were a couple of years late (this was 1971-73).

I don't know whether a sign in the instrument case is really necessary; it should be obvious what you're up to. "Salting" the case (or hat, or box) with some bills and/or coins is a better and more basic way to get the message across. I kept a handlettered sign saying "Only In It For The Money"; I hope most people realized I was being ironic, but maybe not.


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: georgeward
Date: 20 Jul 04 - 02:10 AM

This is really for the non-buskers or (like me) once-and-future (maybe) buskers reading this thread. I'm enough of a believer in Marion's peer-pressure theory that when I come across a busker doing a good turn, I'll try to guess who else coming along the street might profit by a good example, wait 'til they're in range, and then tip as conspicuously - and as much - as I can. Doesn't always work, but a lot of folks do need to be shown what to do...and what it is o.k. to do.


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 20 Jul 04 - 02:33 AM

3 tips

Location!
Location!
Location!


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: GUEST,Jess A
Date: 20 Jul 04 - 07:31 AM

I busked a fair bit when I was a student, & always felt that the tunes I played made a difference to how much money I made. I never managed to test it properly & scientifically (maybe I should mention I'm a statistician by trade, can't help myself wanting to be analytical sometimes...) but as a fiddle player I always felt that playing in major keys, particularly in G, made more money. No idea if that is just me, just the instrument or the tunes I know, or whether there is a cultural bias in England towards G major... worth experimenting a bit with your repertoire though & I bet anybody would find that some tunes they play are better money-spinners than others. Cheerful or sentimental tunes tend to win out.

Other things I found helpful have mostly already been mentioned - pick your spot carefully, smile & make eye-contact. Pick your time as well - depends on day of week. Weather makes a big difference - people are more generous when it is sunny. I always stood on the sunny side of the street even though it was hotter.

Finally, be as appealing as possible. Different things work for different people but as a young-ish female I always found wearing a short(ish) skirt and smiling lots helped ;) probably wouldn't work if you are a boy of course... (and take a tip from me, if you are a girl and wear a full skirt and you have both hands full of fiddle, you can't hold down your skirt when the wind blows... I only made that mistake once, embarrassing though...)

Anything else to make you appealing to kids and retired people is a good idea - they seem to be the ones who are most likely to stop and listen. Take your dog if you have one...

Jess A


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: mcgrathof altcar
Date: 20 Jul 04 - 08:34 AM

put a hat on the dog and double your money


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 20 Jul 04 - 05:40 PM

Use a really old dog, preferably once-black-now-grey. And if you busk outdoor cafes use a female bottler with cleavage.


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: Joybell
Date: 20 Jul 04 - 06:45 PM

Marion, that covers it really. Excellent coverage.
I had a cute toy dog. On a lead so that he could be cuddled but not pinched. I once had to compete with another busker who had a sickenly cute and pretty little daughter. Little cutety skipped up to everyone lisping, "I love you! I wealy love you!" If you've got one of those, or can borrow one, you can't loose.
Just one thing I noticed in my busking days that I could add: Solo busking pays better, not only for the obvious reason of splitting the profits. People admire your courage if you go it alone. They told me that all the time. I'd like to get back to busking. Maybe I will some day before my voice gives out entirely. Joy


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: PoppaGator
Date: 20 Jul 04 - 07:40 PM

Joybell, my (albeit long-ago) experience showed that solo busking paid much better for me in one city than in another. In other words, it did NOT always necessarily pay as well as group performance. (See above, July 19 just before noon). I'll concede that you can always make some kind of a mark as a soloist, and of course you don't have to split the take, but in *some* environments, you might not be able to compete effectively with other buskers working in ensembles.

I think that a group is inherently more interesting to the passerby than a soloist, not only because of the increased volume and visual presense, but also because of the interaction between the players. Even as a former street soloist myself, I generally enjoy hearing and seeing a band on the street (brass band, jug band, bluegrass band, etc.) more than I do than the average lone singer/guitarist. A solo performer has to be *good,* or at least interesting in some way, to hold my attention, while a group (even a duo) almost always commands some attention just by being out there interacting with each other.

If you're working solo, you have to create personal interaction by making contact (eye contact plus whatever else you can do to forge a connection) with every person who comes along showing the least bit of interest in your endeavor.

Be prepared to deal with requests. You can't possibly know every song anyone is liable to ask for, but try to have something prepared in every general category you can think of. When I was in the streets every day back in the early 70s, for example, I was not especially conversant or even interested in country music, but I made sure to have a couple of tunes each from the repertoires of Merle Haggard, Hank Williams, and Jimmy Rodgers, as well as Jim Reeves' "He'll Have to Go" (a great one!). When someone requested a country tune I didn't know, I could respond, "I don't know that one, but how about this?" I tried to have an acceptable substitute for anything I was likely be asked for -- something representative of every popular genre and/or performer I could think of. Usually got me by.

Incidentally:

One of my favorite street performers of recent years here in New Orleans is a young black guy who sings Sam Cooke's Greatest Hits, apparently a capella. After seeing him a few times, I realized that he is singing along with a tape though headphones, inaudible to everyone but himself. Since I own the same album myself, I soon realized I could always predict which song he would do next.

Although this might seem like "cheating" in some way, I like the guy's act. He is an excellent singer -- after all, aspiring to emulate the great Sam Cooke is an admirable goal, and he does measure up -- and the timing (number of beats of rest between lines and between verses, etc.,) is impeccable, of course -- much moreso that most truly a capella efforts could manage. Most importantly, I believe, is the fact that he sings directly *to* almost every person who approaches him; if you give him any chance at all, if you let him catch your eye for even a fleeting second, he's locked in and pouring his heart and voice directly into your face. Impossible to ignore and quite effective.


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: Joybell
Date: 20 Jul 04 - 08:27 PM

Yes it does depend a lot on what you do doesn't it. My angle was that I dressed and presented myself as an Eliza Doolittle type. My songs and my costume placed me in the 19th century where I feel I really belong. They also characterized me as a loner. Most people realized I was playing a part and liked it that way - not at all threatening. People like to be able to pigeonhole you. If they can't it bothers them. I am able to do requests and I did - when I was asked, but most people just liked to let me go my own way. I did sing old-fashioned kids' songs for children and their mothers and did old singing-games and dances with them. I enjoyed that for it's own sake and kids like me, but it's worth noting that children love to feed money to buskers.
I found, often, that it's the people who walk past and don't stop who give you money and I never minded a passing trade.
Oh! I miss those days! Don't think my voice could take it now. Joy


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: PoppaGator
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 04:50 PM

Joybell -- Yesterday you said:

"Solo busking pays better, not only for the obvious reason of splitting the profits. People admire your courage if you go it alone. They told me that all the time. "

Hmmm... Not only did I find that soloing [in one particular city, anyway] did NOT pay well as group work, I can also offer the observation that no one *ever* congratulated me for "going it alone." Being male -- and loud -- probably had something to do with that. Presenting yourself as a frail little Eliza-type probably contributed not only to your image, but also to your bottom line!

I, too, get pretty nostalgic for my long-ago busking days. I probably won't ever do it gain, but then again, maybe...


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 21 Jul 04 - 11:24 PM

"Presenting yourself as a frail little Eliza-type probably contributed not only to your image, but also to your bottom line!"

No doubt you had a cute 'bottom line'.... ;-)


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: dermod in salisbury
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 10:02 AM

I posted early in this thread from the point of view of a passer-by, and stand by my advice, which was basically to be entertaining and brighten people's day. Marion's post depressed me a bit. You could see the whole science of marketing looming. Generosity is no longer just a refreshing piece of human nature, but a response, Pushkin's dog like, that can be counted on and exploited if certain things are done. This is not to knock her ideas. I could write a similar treatise on hitch-hiking. Marketing makes the world go round. But depressing all the same.


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: dermod in salisbury
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 11:23 AM

...by which, of course, I meant Pavlov's dog. The two look very similar after a good lunch.


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: PoppaGator
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 12:17 PM

Jeez, Dermod, you must really have your head in the clouds if Marion's thorough, articulate, and very helpful message "depressed you a bit."

For anyone who has actually gone out there in public and done it -- or for anyone who seriously plans to begin doing so -- strategies for being *effective* are equally as important as one's musicality or artistic talent or whatever.

Many of Marion's points -- like her advice to interact with little children, to be willing to take requests even by "winging it" by ear, etc. -- have as much to do with providing pleasure and entertainment to the folks on the street as they do with "marketing" or profiteering. Indeed, just about every piece of advice offered by any of us here has been intended as a way to reach an audience and "brighten their day." Indeed, the *only* way a busker can hope to maximize his/her "take" is to please the listeners and thus induce some of them to make voluntary contributions.

Your own analogy to hitchhiking is pretty apt. If one if going to stand at the roadside in hopes of catching a lift, one can hardly be faulted for seeking advice for ways to actually induce a driver to stop. Similarly, if one if going to perform in public, what's wrong with trying to find ways to reach an audience and provoke a response?


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: dermod in salisbury
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 12:46 PM

You're right. What use is experience if it doesn't produce knowledge? What use is knowledge if you don't pass it on?


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: Joybell
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 07:18 PM

We didn't start busking with the same amount of knowledge that we gained after we'd been at it for a while. I quite agree with Poppagater and dermod in salisbury. Also it's hard to believe that you could keep it up if you didn't really enjoy the whole thing. Sigh!! I was slim and had a good "bottom line" then. Now I would have to act the plump and grandmotherly type.
There's a picture of me as a busker on my photo page here at Mudcat. There's one of Poppagater on his page too - if I remember rightly. Joy


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: PoppaGator
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 04:16 PM

I was about 100 lb. lighter in my streetsinging days -- early 1970s -- than I am in those recent pix shown on the member-pictures page.

(I've lost almost 40 in the last six months, due to illness, but that's another story. I expect to gain some, but hopefully not all, of that weight back in the near future.)

Now, I'm off to the member-photos page myself, to check out Joybell and her "bottom line" -- unless she provided head-shots only!


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: Joybell
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 07:59 PM

No full length. But from the front and seated in a chair. Isn't this time travel great. My photo is from about the 1970s. I looked rather good if I say so myself. I'll view your photo while automatically taking off a few pounds PoppaGater. That's only fair. Hope you are feeling better. Getting sick is a real bummer isn't it? I don't much like getting old either for that matter! Joy


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: GUEST,lala
Date: 27 Jul 04 - 04:51 PM

whats d story bout getting a license, im heading to barcelona on fri 30july, i heard u need to get one--how much? where from? can i get away without one????


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: PoppaGator
Date: 27 Jul 04 - 06:13 PM

Joybell,

Getting old is just fine, if you consider the alternative. Illness is something else, of course.

I took note of your picture dated nineteen-sixty-something, but I had assumed all the others were pretty much current. You didn't have to admit that the seated picture dates back to the 70s!

You have inspired me to look for an good representative OLD photo. I have, or used to have, a set of great B&W shots of myself, with guitar, on a makeshift stage at Earth People's Park, Norton, Vermont, summer of 1971. If I can still find 'em, I'll pick one, scan it, and email it to Pene Azul for the member photo page.

I *do* have a copy of my school picture from kindergarten, 1951-52 school year... Nahhh!

PG


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: Joybell
Date: 27 Jul 04 - 07:09 PM

PoppaGater, I'll bet you were just so sweet in 1951. Yes my other pictures are more or less current - well not the one with the Giant Penguin. I met him in 1970-something. He still looks pretty good - he's in the first photo too - the fairly new one. I'll look forward to seeing some more of your pictures. Isn't this time-travelling grand? Joy


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: GUEST,Mappa mundi
Date: 28 Jul 04 - 02:40 AM

lala - you will need a licence - unless you can bear being moved on frequently.
You can get one (subject to an audition) from the local (Barrio) council office.


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: Marion
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 12:59 AM

Hi gang. Sorry for the delay in following up on this thread - too busy being an opportunistic bastard.

Georgeward, that's really nice of you, thanks on behalf of your local buskers.

Dermod, sorry if I've ruined the romance for you. I see where you're coming from - but I'm sure we can agree that marketing is a necessary evil.

Gypsy makes a good point about learning to talk while playing, especially to say thank you. I've found a difficulty in listening while playing: if someone stands in front of me and talks in a normal conversational tone while I've got a fiddle under my ear, I simply can't hear them. So what I had to learn to do was a graceful stop in the middle of a tune so I can ask them what they just said: trying to find a way to resolve the melody in a few beats. It sounds terrible if you just stop the tune cold, but if it takes too long to come to a natural stopping point they'll think you're ignoring them.

Guest Lala, we did have a thread about the laws in various locations: Busking permits, but I skimmed through it and the only mention of Spain is Alanabit's caution not to look poor. You might want to start another thread called "Busking in Barcelona?", or become a Mudcat member (it's free) and write to Alanabit for advice. Buena suerte, let us know how it goes.

Jess A, I think it's certainly true that some tunes will pay better than others, but I'm not too sure what to do about that fact. Sometimes I think I'd make a fortune if all I did was alternate between Redwing and Danny Boy (both in G, BTW...) but I resist the temptation for two reasons. First, as I said above, the real key is patience and stamina, and I believe that I have more patience and stamina if I'm entertaining myself as well as the listeners. If I were to just go through a short rotation of hits again and again (I know you didn't suggest this, but people do suggest it sometimes), I'm pretty sure I would burn out on busking. The other reason is that I like my busking to be valuable practice time as well as an income-producing activity, so if I have an unproductive day, it wasn't wasted time because I got in some practice of recently memorized repertoire.

(Aside: that reminds me of what I forgot to put in my list: don't use a music stand, play from memory.)

I liked your story of the Marilyn Monroe skirt incident, but I'm not too sure about the short skirt suggestion. When I busk I dress as my normal frumpy self, and even so, I get a lot more sexual attention from men than I do at other times: sometimes polite, sometimes obnoxious, and always unwelcome. Maybe they think that a girl who would busk is likely to be free and easy, or maybe they think I'm desperate for money. But either way, I consider the men problem to be busking's biggest drawback, and I expect it would be worse if I showed a little leg (or a big leg, in my case).

Foolestroupe, your post was factual but not very helpful. What can you tell us about identifying a good location?

Joybell and PoppaGator, thanks a lot for sharing your experiences. The few times that I've busked with other musicians, I didn't feel that they earned their keep (i.e., we didn't make double my normal income), but those were ad hoc jam sessions, not a tight act. I would like to work up some tunes with a partner and see how it goes, once I'm settled again.

I don't recall that anyone's ever told me they admire my guts for busking alone (they do for travelling alone, though). But there have been several times that passersby have said something like "You must be hot," or "You've been playing all day!" and I felt that their tip was in tribute to my patience and stamina rather than my fiddling.

The other thing that I often hear is other musicians telling me they think it takes a lot of guts to go out busking. For example, in the "Busking and begging" thread Brucie said: It takes a serious set of cajones to put your talent on the line that way, and I admire people who have the 'brass' to do just that. I've never really understood this. I only had stage fright the first ten minutes of my busking life - I think playing gigs is the stressful thing. After all, no matter how bad you screw something up, in five minutes anyone who heard it will be gone and you have a fresh new audience.

Thanks for your thoughts everyone - keep them coming.

Cheers, Marion


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 05:12 AM

If I really knew EXACTLY, I'd be there. If anyone else really did too, so would they. And sometimes, you just have to be there at the right time too, as well as having the right material... but that's already been covered above.

Robin


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: Peter T.
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 11:46 AM

This is an audience comment, but I always give money to musicians who go against the tempo of the place -- like doing slow songs when everyone is rushing. It reminds me that music is different, and that the people doing it are not part of the rat race. I am sure that standard advice is probably to do things that are flashy and speedy, but that never works for me -- especially accordion players. A slow accordion player will stop me every time; a fast one is like wallpaper.

But that is just me.

yours,

Peter T.


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 29 Jul 04 - 04:16 PM

Marion - excellent stuff!
Did you ever think of writing and publishing a little handbook of all your practical tips for busking?
I can think of a few buskers who could use the advice.
Unlike us old-timers, they wouldn't have to learn the hard way!

Seamus


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: GUEST,Zeek
Date: 02 Oct 04 - 06:16 AM

I just found this thread somehow while surfing and read the entire thing. Wonderful! I put it on favorites and I'll be back.   I have no tips on busking as yet but I'm excited about trying it since i'm without a job. I wanted to post something to see how this shows up and I can begin learning how to use this site which seems complicated at the moment. Is this "mudcat" thing all about street performing or what?

Heres one tip I have for hitching a ride sometimes though. *Where traffic is not heavy on a two way road...try thumbing on the "wrong" side of the road. For some reason it works faster.

Zeek


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: alanabit
Date: 02 Oct 04 - 08:02 AM

Welcome Zeek. Why not become a member? It's free, simple and takes about five minutes. It also enables you to put up your own personal page and receive and send PMs (Personal Mails).
The site is a meeting of people who like various forms of folk music -there have been several debates about trying to describe what "folk" means. We talk about lots of other subjects though.
I am interested in busking, having done it for over twenty-five years. Here is a good place to discuss it and hear from the old hands like Reggie Miles, InObu and Marion. There's much more though. Stick around.


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: PoppaGator
Date: 02 Oct 04 - 01:32 PM

Hey Zeek,

Let me second the motion that you consider joining.

If you scroll up to the very top of this page, you'll see a list of "blue clickies," each of which is a link to another thread on the same (or related) subject. That is, the links at the top of *this* page all take you to other discussions of busking. Check 'em out!

I sang on the streets of New Orleans (winters) and San Francisco (summers) full-time for about three years in the early 70s. Even though I've been "retired" for 30 years, I still don't hestitate to pontificate, offer advice, tell stories, etc. I know that Marion and alanabit, among others, are currently active buskers who always have helpful and interesting things to say. So, definitely check out those other threads referenced above, and also join up and stick around.

Oh yeah -- you ask: "Is this "mudcat" thing all about street performing or what?"

Not at all. The original raison d'etre for the site was as a place to store the Digital Tradition, a huge database of traditional song lyrics, which had been maintained by Xerox/PARC until they abruptly dropped it. This forum had more of an American folk/blues slant in the early days, but since then many members have joined from all over the English-speaking world, and topics under discussion include a wide range of British, Irish/Celtic, and other folk traditions as well as American. Also a fair amount of personal news, gossip, and other such "BS." Discussions of street performance pop up periodically, but it's really just one of the many aspects of folk music -- very broadly defined -- that you'll find here.


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 02 Oct 04 - 04:11 PM

A few CDs of the busker on display make sense - even aside from the possiblity of selling some, it implies that this music is worth listening to. And these days it's easy enough to make CDs a few at a time, with minimal equipment and minimal cost.

And there are people who find the idea of handing over a few quid for a CD an easier thing to do than putting a few coins in a hat as a gift.


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: Joybell
Date: 02 Oct 04 - 07:25 PM

Yes, Zeek joining is a good idea. You can view some of our pictures as buskers.
I was a busker in Melbourne, Australia for about 7 years. The first licenced one.
I sang in restaurants, and worked as a nurse at the same time. Damage to my back from nursing forced me into retirement, and damage from passive smoking forced me out of restuarants. I still busk when I can but we live away from the city now, so it's not very often.
I'm enjoying this thread too, talking with other buskers around the world. Joy


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: Zeek
Date: 03 Oct 04 - 05:38 AM

Thanks everyone. I will be joining for sure. This site is so huge. Tunes are my interest here so I am trying to navigate around finding how everything works...but with some it difficulty I admit. Signing in is more infomation than I know about myself presently...but will work on it. I made one attemp already. I'm not real cyber friendly yet.

zeek


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 03 Oct 04 - 07:00 AM

If you look up the top of the page, you will see a link "FAQ"

Robin


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Oct 04 - 06:42 PM

Don't declair your earnings, apply for foodstamps and never let someone borrow your sleeping-bag (its a bitch getting rid of body lice.)


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Oct 04 - 06:43 PM

Make sure your shots are current, always use a condom, get tested every 12 weeks.


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: Leadfingers
Date: 03 Oct 04 - 07:51 PM

Get as much advice from Mudcat people as you can - We are all 'Fairly' user friendly . And when you join come in to Mudchat and join the loony bin !!


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: alanww
Date: 04 Oct 04 - 09:22 AM

There certainly are some brill tips here, particulary from Marion.
I have only done a bit of busking myself and, although I am primarily a singer (mostly traditional and unaccompanied), for practice I played my concertina without singing.
What are people's experiences in terms of the mode of performance? Do you get more money by singing unaccompanied, playing solo or singing with accompaniment? (Of course, I acknowledge that over a longish period the lets-stave-off-the-boredom factor may suggest a mixture.)
"Dancing and singing, bell ringing...!"
Alan


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: PoppaGator
Date: 04 Oct 04 - 12:07 PM

My own experience was almost exclusively singing-with-accompaniment (acoustic guitar).

When I first ventured out on the street (my first *day* only), I was too scared to sing -- suffering "stage fright" without even being on a stage -- and had no success attracting any contributions at all with my low-volume fingerpicking. Only after I summoned up the gumption to open my throat and sing (and to play louder, albeit more simply, at the same time) did I find any success.

I've seen plenty of successful instrumental-only busking acts, but very few guitar soloists among them. The instrumentalists who do best seem to be those who appear in groups and/or who play "interesting" instruments (e.g., harp, hammered dulcimer; even a fiddle is "exotic' enough -- or maybe just loud enough -- to attract a little extra interest).

Unaccompanied singing might just be unusual enough to command a lot of attention. I'm sure you'd have to be *very good* and fairly loud)to pull it off.

Classical players, solo or in trios, quartets, etc., seem to do very well just about everywhere. More power to 'em, but it's not very helpful to advise a folkie to go out and "Learn classical music."


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: Joybell
Date: 04 Oct 04 - 09:12 PM

I sang unnaccompanied mostly. I usually had an old 5 string banjo with me but didn't do anything fancy with it - just simple 2 finger style back-up for some songs. Mainly it was just a prop. My voice is high and clear enough to cut across city noise so that was an advantage. I was terrified before every time - over 7 or so years, but I found that if I dressed up in some kind of easily recognizable outfit and strode confidently into the very middle of the main street and started singing - nothing bad happened and people smiled and welcomed me. It was a matter of theatre really while playing myself. Wonderful times. Wonderful memories. Joy


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 04 Oct 04 - 09:30 PM

$0.02


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: GlennOrange
Date: 14 Mar 07 - 08:24 PM

If you want to be a succesful busker then you should GIVE your absolute best performance.
   Stand instead of sit.
   Perform TO your crowd.
   Play songs people can relate to (wether it's original or a cover)
   Never, ever, EVER think, worry, or obsess about money.

    If you are giving a great performance and are reaching the peple, the money will come. If you focus on money (or your need for it) then you can't focus on performing.
               myspace.com/glennorange


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: PoppaGator
Date: 20 Mar 07 - 03:36 PM

Good Rule Number One, there, Glenn: stand instead of sit, absolutely! (Unless you have a piano out on the street, or some other instrument at which you need to be seated).

And, rather than "Perform TO your crowd," I'd rephrase and say "...TO you audience," even when there isn't a crowd. Keep in mind that even those people who are walking by can hear you, and may have been listening from a block or more away, since before you ever saw them. So try to make eye contact with anyone and everyone you encounter; you may be surprised at who's actually interested, and a smile and acknowledgement may be all a person needs to decide not to keep walking but to stop and listen for a bit, and/or to dig out a bill or a few coins after all.


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: Jack Campin
Date: 20 Mar 07 - 07:37 PM

If you do anything even vaguely Scottish, wear a kilt.

Having a cute kid or a woman with big boobs to go round with a hat while you're playing will more than double the take.


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: GUEST,meself
Date: 20 Mar 07 - 08:08 PM

Failing either of those, a monkey is not a bad idea.


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: Jim Lad
Date: 20 Mar 07 - 08:25 PM

Works for Michael Jackson.
The monkey, I mean!


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: GUEST,Unplugged
Date: 06 Apr 08 - 09:08 AM

Any retired folks out there who have taken up busking? I figure to take my banjo and voice and give it a whirl real soon. Great advice here. Much appreciated.


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: Mr Red
Date: 06 Apr 08 - 09:18 AM

One thing Dave Hart told me he did

Dave was (is) a Morris man, melodeon player and self employed carpenter in Wellington NZ.

He played on a Friday betwixt the railway station and the bus station at the far end of the underpass, to commuters. Friday only - punters bouyant, for one day, rushing to work. And he picked the rhythm of their feet and gave it a lift. It produced more revenue. It helped that he played a lot of morris type tunes.

But the lesson is: read your audience and pick them too, time and demeanour. Mostly people want jolly. Grab them musically as they pass.

Good luck - and do the Social Services and Taxman want to know?


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: The Sandman
Date: 07 Apr 08 - 03:56 AM

Never leave too much money in your collecting hat,it could get stolen.
Bluebell/Jenny lind polka is a good money spinner.Dick Miles


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: GUEST,Jonny Sunshine
Date: 07 Apr 08 - 01:26 PM

The larger and more unusual your instrument, the more attention you will attract. Hammered dulcimers are the business. I had a friend who busked with one and happened to pass him in town when he asked me to look after the dulcimer while he got a drink of water. By the time he came back I'd got a crowd of 20 people asking me all about it, and I can't even play it!


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Subject: RE: Anyone busking with a Native American Flute?
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Jul 08 - 08:51 PM

I live in Arizona and I play the Native American Flute. I have a small battery powered amp I use. There are times when I use a cd playter playing thunder storms in the background as I play I also use a echo box thru the amp. People like it. So I keep doing it. Keep the music flowing...Ghost Ferret


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 05 Jul 08 - 06:21 PM

Being in the right place at the right time is more important than how you sound or what you play (within reason).

It's a bit like hitching a ride that way. The bottom line isn't how you look, it's, is it a convenient place for a driver to stop.


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: GUEST,jim gillison
Date: 05 Jul 08 - 06:49 PM

Busking? You can't score a real gig, or an amatuer demo? If you're
busking, here's one tip. Play public domain songs. Why? No royalties.
If you play someone elses copyrighted material without a performance
license and making money off it, you're ripping them off. So, make sure
you get the performance license to play the songs live in public.
Then, for location: choose a place that is near bars and cafes or where
the owners of those types of places are likely to be passing by. If they like you, they might give you a real gig.


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: GUEST,guest
Date: 17 Apr 10 - 04:55 PM

there have been sociological studies on busking that showed a peckijng order in popularity of buskers.

most popular was vocal harmony accompanied by instraments.

least popular was a solo instramentalist.
    Please note that anonymous posting is no longer allowed at Mudcat. Use a consistent name [in the 'from' box] when you post, or your messages risk being deleted. Guest,guest is not an acceptable posting name - it has already been taken.
    Thanks.
    -Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 18 Apr 10 - 12:57 AM

Sing Loudly.. project!
Strum loudly but clearly (if you're a guitar player).

Salt your case.

Use a bottler.
If no bottler, talk to the people and smile.


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: GUEST,Busker Gal
Date: 14 Jun 10 - 08:27 AM

Marion's point about stamina and patience is very true. You may busk for a while and not get any tips then you may get a lot of tips in a few seconds. Some places in the UK require a licence but most don't. You can call the local authority before and find out if you need a licence or not. Most places it's ok to turn up and do it. If you do get asked to move on (this has happened to me when I've been on private property such as shopping centres) then be polite and ask them where buskers normally go in their town/city.

Its good to have a wide range of songs/tunes, happy songs and popular songs go down really well. We make more when the sun is shining. Busking is a good way to get over nerves, at first you may be nervous about singing on the street but give it a go it's fun! 99% of the people are nice ignore the few negative comments you may get.

Smile and dress smartly. How you present yourself makes a difference. Some people dress up to go with the act I think that's a cool idea. We have been booked to play paid gigs when people have seen us busking, you are your own best advertisement!

If you are singing take a bottle of water it's thirsty work. Seamus is right to say PROJECT. I put as much energy as possible into the performance leaving enough left so I can keep going comfortabley for the lengh of the show (from 1 hour to 3 hours). Build your stamina up over time.

If you are playing a stringed instrument pack some spare strings.

If you are doing it often and walking a lot it helps hugely to get a trolley. The trolley saves my stamina and muscles for playing!!

The most important thing is to enjoy it and have fun. Good luck!


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Jun 10 - 12:12 PM

"Busking? You can't score a real gig, or an amatuer demo?"

Possibly: no. Possibly: yes, but don't want to. Possibly: what's it to you?

Next question, please.


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: mousethief
Date: 14 Jun 10 - 12:24 PM

Many moons ago, a buddy of mine decided to try busking in the underground el stations in the "Loop" of Chicago. He said he tried all different kinds of songs, but the ones that made the most money were old revival hymns. He reckoned it was some kind of nostalgic guilt.


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: meself
Date: 14 Jun 10 - 12:30 PM

(Sorry - that last "GUEST" was me - unlogged).


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: Mark Ross
Date: 14 Jun 10 - 01:42 PM

There is a difference between PLAYING music and PERFORMING. Just keep that in mind.

Mark Ross


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: GUEST,SSRobin
Date: 10 Feb 11 - 02:26 AM

Hiya,

I've recently started playing the penny whistle, and am slowly building up my repertoire so I can go out in public in 6 months - a year or so.

Do any of you have any experience busking with that instrument? How do you pick which songs to learn? (Mostly I've gotten random jigs and reels from free sheet music databases, but they're nothing that people would know out here in Ontario... haven't really found much in the way of popular music for the tinwhistle)

Is it even a viable instrument for busking?


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: InOBU
Date: 10 Feb 11 - 04:03 AM

Well... Kev McGrath and Poppagator are dead on...

On CDs... back to the tape cassette days, then CDs, most of my cash came from selling my recordings while I busked...

On standing... I play the Uillean pipes and a number of other instruments, I noticed, standing intsruments got more attention, as you are looking the audience in the eye... if the look down at you playing they do LOOK DOWN on you. So, I began carting around a high stool to play the pipes, and the earnings went up. Space is everything when it comes to how you are seen.

The only time I used a low chair after that, is when I would busk with my whole band...

As to the person who asked about can't you get gigs... ( long sigh and a shake of the head here...)

Of course many of us get or got gigs. I used to rehearse my band in the park busking, to tighten the performances, and see what worked close up with crowds... we even had a complete battery PA system for what was sometimes up to a nine piece band - even battery mixer so the ballence was great.

Why not get paid to practice, eh?

And more on gigs from busking, I would get a lot of gigs FROM busking... always carry cards...

Licences... never liked them, never got one. It is our world, not theirs... at least keep the open roads, waste grounds and public places free... there is no more powerful thought than freedom.

Philip Petite once said to me, "If busking were legal I would not do it." For those young folks who may not remember, he is the busking high wire walker, who walked beteen the World Trade Center towers, and was sentenced to busk in the streets of New York for a summer, proving that even some judges get it.

Baxt thai sastimos,
Lorcan


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: breezy
Date: 10 Feb 11 - 04:42 AM

Marion's contribution on 19th July 2004 remains compulsory reading for wannabees or hasbeens, whatever, whoever.

but she omits to weather conditions, so

If its wet and or windy , maybe think about having a day off.
Look at the extended forecast and plan ahead.

Re 'pee' Always start 'empty'

re temperatures

Plenty of good quality thermal under layers and scarf and cut off gloves, but try to avoid being hot and sweaty before you start, have a top layer to put on when you arrive at the pitch.

minus 8 has been the coldest this year, but I know it gets much colder states side.

gonna be cold again next week so I hear

Bye


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Subject: RE: Any tips for a newbie street busker??
From: GUEST,Ben
Date: 01 Feb 13 - 05:38 AM

You might find this useful http://fretdetective.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/busking-tips.html


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