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HUNGRY HASH HOUSE
IF I LOSE, LET ME LOSE
I'M THE MAN THAT RODE THE MULE 'ROUND THE WORLD
LEAVING HOME
MILWAUKEE BLUES
MOVING DAY
OLD AND ONLY IN THE WAY
TO THE SWEET SUNNY SOUTH


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Subject: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: GUEST,Gary
Date: 30 Sep 02 - 12:41 PM

I have lyrics and some rudimentary chords for some Charlie Poole?s songs. I realize some are already in the DT, but some are not. Anyone interested in them? Shall I post them?
  • Baltimore Fire
  • Bile Dem Cabbage Down
  • Bill Mason
  • Budded Rose
  • Don't Let Your Deal Go Down
  • The Girl I Loved In Sunny Tennessee
  • Goodbye Mary Dear
  • Goodbye Sweet Liza Jane
  • Goodbye Booze
  • He Rambled
  • The Highwayman
  • Hungry Hash House
  • I Once Loved A Sailor
  • I'm The Man That Rode the Mule 'Round the World
  • If I Lose, I Don't Care
  • If The River Was Whiskey
  • Jay Gould's Daughter
  • Jealous Mary
  • Leaving Dear Old Ireland
  • Look Before You Leap
  • Monkey On A String
  • Mother's Last Farewell Kiss
  • Movin' Day
  • My Gypsy Girl
  • My Wife Went Away And Left Me
  • Old and Only in the Way
  • One Moonlight Night
  • Sourwood Mountain
  • Take A Drink On Me
  • There'll Come A Time Someday
  • To The Sweet Sunny South
  • Write A Letter To My Mother


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: wysiwyg
Date: 30 Sep 02 - 12:46 PM

Yes, very. You would do searches here by title and artist first, to be sure they are not already hiding in a thread, then post them here in this handy thread if they are not, unless you find a Charlie Poole songs thread and put more of them in there.

If you have a substantially different version of a song, and it's posted in a thread, put the new version there.

Change the subjkect line of each post to ADD: and then the title.

GREAT!

Do you know about Honkingduck?

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: GUEST,Gary
Date: 30 Sep 02 - 01:36 PM

Okey Doke. No what is Honkingduck?

gary


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 30 Sep 02 - 01:47 PM

Yes, by all means post them. I am a huge Charlie Poole fan...

Jerry


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: wysiwyg
Date: 30 Sep 02 - 02:13 PM

Gary,

HONKINGDUCK.

Have fun in there! *G* Don't forget to come up for air.

Also please see: Mudcat Honkingduck Oldtime Project Proposal.

If you join Mudcat, members who share your interests can send you personal messages ("PMs") here at Mudcat too.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: GUEST,Gary
Date: 30 Sep 02 - 02:42 PM

I found this URL for a host of Poole lyrics.

http://world.std.com/~gdallal/charlie_poole.htm

I will try and post the songs I've chorded ASAP.

Gary


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: wysiwyg
Date: 30 Sep 02 - 02:44 PM

WOW! Good trade Gary!

We do try to post things here becasue we feel Mudcat will outlast many other sites. So if a lyric comes from somewhere else, we post it here AND cite the site where it came from.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: wysiwyg
Date: 30 Sep 02 - 02:52 PM

Here are Gary's items listed above, with line breaks. Catters care to help search the threads for these?

Baltimore Fire
Bile Dem Cabbage Down
Bill Mason
Budded Rose
Don't Let Your Deal Go Down
The Girl I Loved In Sunny Tennessee
Goodbye Mary Dear
Goodbye Sweet Liza Jane
Goodbye Booze
He Rambled
The Highwayman
Hungry Hash House
I Once Loved A Sailor
I'm The Man That Rode the Mule 'Round the World
If I Lose, I Don't Care
If The River Was Whiskey
Jay Gould's Daughter
Jealous Mary
Leaving Dear Old Ireland
Look Before You Leap
Monkey On A String
Mother's Last Farewell Kiss
Movin' Day
My Gypsy Girl
My Wife Went Away And Left Me
Old and Only in the Way
One Moonlight Night
Sourwood Mountain
Take A Drink On Me
There'll Come A Time Someday
To The Sweet Sunny South
Write A Letter To My Mother


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: tar_heel
Date: 30 Sep 02 - 03:06 PM

you need to get in touch with KENNY RORRER of DANVILLE,VIRGINIA
kenny is a local historian on charlie poole...he knows anything and everything about charlie poole...his life,music,u-name-it,and has written many books on charlie poole...if charlie poole did it,sang it,recorded it,peformed it somewhere,kenny is the one who can tell you the story about it...youi must contact kenny if you love charlie pooles music...tell kenny that chuck hemrick (aka,tarheel)gave you this information..
Address for Kenny Rorrer deleted - he can probably be contact through his family's label, Flyin' Cloud Records. I believe Rorrer is Professor Kinney Rorrer at Danville Community College. Otherwise, send a personal message to Tar Heel for info on how to contact Rorrer.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: wysiwyg
Date: 30 Sep 02 - 03:28 PM

Chuck, Mr. Rorrer is mentioned in the link Gary provided, and I am sure your endorsement of him is appreciated. But it's really not a good idea to put an address and phone numbers in a public forum without his permission.

~Susan

   


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: Fortunato
Date: 30 Sep 02 - 03:33 PM

Guest, Gary, I'm interested as well.


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Subject: ADD: Charlie Poole songs & chords
From: GUEST,Gary
Date: 30 Sep 02 - 03:34 PM

Here are the songs I have chorded so far.
I hope the line breaks are there this time. If not, I'll keep trying till I get it right.
Old and Only in the Way
Baltimore Fire
Bill Mason
Budded Rose
Don't Let Your Deal Go Down
The Girl I Loved In Sunny Tennessee
Goodbye Mary Dear
Goodbye Sweet Liza Jane
Goodbye Booze
The Highwayman
Hungry Hash House
I Once Loved A Sailor
If I Lose, I Don't Care
If The River Was Whiskey
Jay Gould's Daughter
Leaving Dear Old Ireland
Moving Day
Look Before You Leap
  

Baltimore Fire
Traditional


G C
It was on a silver falls by a narrow
G D
That I heard the cry I ever will remember,
G C
The fire sent and cast its burning embers
G D G
On another fated city of our land.

Chorus:
G
Fire, Fire, I heard the cry
C G
From every breeze that passes by,
C G D
All the world was one sad cry of pity
G G
Strong men in anguish prayed,
C G
Calling loud to the Heavens for aid,
C G
While the fire in ruin was laying
D C G
Fair Baltimore, the beautiful city

G C
Amid-an-awful-struggle of commotion,
G D
The-wind blew-a-gale from the ocean,
G C
Brave firemen struggled with devotion,
G D G
But their efforts all proved in vain.

Chorus:
G
Fire, Fire, I heard the cry
C G
From every breeze that passes by,
C G D
All the world was one sad cry of pity
G G
Strong men in anguish prayed,
C G
Calling loud to the Heavens for aid,
C G
While the fire in ruin was laying
D C G
Fair Baltimore, the beautiful city

The awful news did spread across the wire
Of another sad catastrophe so dire,
That Baltimore City is afire,
And sinking 'neath the foe's relentless hand.


From New Lost City Ramblers; originally recorded by Charlie Poole.


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Bill Mason
Charlie Poole


1
Bill Mason was an engineer
4 1
He'd been on the road all of his life
1
I'll never forget the morning
2 5
He married himself a wife
1
Bill hadn't been married more than an hour
4 1
'Till up came a message from Kress
1 1
And ordered Bill to come down
5 1
And bring out the night express

While Maggie sat by the window
A waiting for the night express
And if she hadn't a done so
She'd have been a widow, I guess
There was some drunken rascals
That come down by the ridge
They come down by the railroad
And tore off the rail from the bridge

Well, Maggie heard them working
"I guess there's something wrong
In less than fifteen minutes
Bill's train would be along"
She couldn't come near to tell it
A mile it wouldn't've done
She just grabbed up the lantern
And made for the bridge alone

By Jove, Bill saw the signal
And stopped the night express
And found his Maggie crying
On the track in her wedding dress
Her crying and laughing for joy
Still holding on to the light
He came around the curve a-flying
Bill Mason's on time tonight

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Budded Rose
Charlie Poole


1 5
Little sweetheart, we have parted
5 1
From each other we must go
4 1
Many miles may separate us
5 1
From this world of care and woe

But I treasure of the promise
That you made me in the lane
When you said we'd be together
When the roses bloom again

Now this parting gives us sorrow
Oh, it almost breaks my heart
But say, darling, will you love me
When we meet no more to part?

Instrumental break

Down among the budded roses
I am nothing but a stem
I have parted from my darling
Never more to meet again

Will this parting be forever?
Will there be no coming day
When our hearts will be united
And all troubles pass away?

Darling, meet me up in heaven
That's my true and earnest prayer
If you loved me here on earth, dear
I am sure you'll love me there

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Budded Rose
Charlie Poole


1 5
Little sweetheart, we have parted
5 1
From each other we must go
4 1
Many miles may separate us
5 1
From this world of care and woe

But I treasure of the promise
That you made me in the lane
When you said we'd be together
When the roses bloom again

Now this parting gives us sorrow
Oh, it almost breaks my heart
But say, darling, will you love me
When we meet no more to part?

Instrumental break

Down among the budded roses
I am nothing but a stem
I have parted from my darling
Never more to meet again

Will this parting be forever?
Will there be no coming day
When our hearts will be united
And all troubles pass away?

Darling, meet me up in heaven
That's my true and earnest prayer
If you loved me here on earth, dear
I am sure you'll love me there


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Don't Let Your Deal Go Down
Charlie Poole



E A
I've been all around this whole wide world,
D G G
Way down in Memphis Tennessee.
E A
Any old place I hang my hat
D G
Seems like home to me.

cho:
E A 0/5 2/5 0/5 0/4
Don't let your deal go down.
D G
Don't let your deal go down.
E A
Don't let your deal go down, sweet mama
D G
Till your last old dollar's gone.

When I left my love behind,
She's standin' in the door;
She throwed her little arms around my neck and said,
"Sweet daddy please don't go!"

Now it's who's gonna shoe your pretty little feet?
Who's gonna glove your hand?
And who's gonna kiss your ruby lips
Honey, who's gonna be your man?

She says, "Papa will shoe my pretty little feet,
Manma will glove my hand.
You can kiss my rosy lips
When you get back again."

Where did you get them high-heel shoes.
And that dress you wear so fine?
Got nry shoes from a railroad man
Dress from a driver in the mine.


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The Girl I Loved In Sunny Tennessee
Charlie Poole



1
On one morning bright and clear
4
My old homestead I drew near
5 1
It's a village down in sunny Tennes-see
1
I was speeding on a train
4
That would carry me back again
5 1
To that girl I loved in sunny Tennessee

CHORUS:
1
You could hear those darkies singing
4 1
As she bid farewell to me
1
Far across the fields of cotton
5
My old homestead I could see
1
But as the moon rose in the glory
4 1
There I told the saddest story
5 1
To that girl I loved in sunny Tennessee


It has been but quite a few years
Since I kissed away her tears
As I left her at my dear old mother's side
And each day we've been apart
She's grown nearer to my heart
As the night I asked of her to be my bride

CHORUS:
1
You could hear those darkies singing
4 1
As she bid farewell to me
1
Far across the fields of cotton
5
My old homestead I could see
1
But as the moon rose in the glory
4 1
There I told the saddest story
5 1
To that girl I loved in sunny Tennessee

As the train run in at last
Those familiar scenes I passed
When I kissed my mother at the station door
When the crowd gathered round
Tears on every face I found
But I missed the one who I'd been waiting for

CHORUS:
1
You could hear those darkies singing
4 1
As she bid farewell to me
1
Far across the fields of cotton
5
My old homestead I could see
1
But as the moon rose in the glory
4 1
There I told the saddest story
5 1
To that girl I loved in sunny Tennessee

As I whispered "Mother dear
Where is Mary?" "She's not here."
All the world seems lonely, sadness came to me
As she pointed to a spot
In the little churchyard lot
Where my sweetheart sleeps in sunny Tennessee

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Goodbye Mary Dear
Charlie Poole

1
"Goodbye, Mary, I must go"
4 1
Said the lad, "Now don't weep so
1 5
For sad duties call me far across the sea
1
Take this autumn leaf of gold"
4 1
Said the lad, "'Twill never grow old
1 5 1
Always keep it near your heart and think of me"

Chorus:
1
I'll be there, Mary dear, I'll be there
1 5
When the fragrance of the roses fills the air
1 4 1
'Neath the oak tree grand and tall, when the leaves begins to fall
1 5 1
I'll be there, I'll be there, sweet Mary dear

1
See the lad with an empty sleeve
4 1
Of his comrades taking leave
1 5
They were home again, the transport had came back
1
"If she loved you once before
4 1
She won't love you less, I know
1 5 1
And one arm will do to fold her to you, Jack"

Chorus:
1
I'll be there, Mary dear, I'll be there
1 5
When the fragrance of the roses fills the air
1 4 1
'Neath the oak tree grand and tall, when the leaves begins to fall
1 5 1
I'll be there, I'll be there, sweet Mary dear

1
It was autumn time again
4 1
As he wandered down the lane
4 1
There beneath the old oak tree he found a grave
1
As he knelt in silent prayer
4 1
For the one he loved slept there
1 5 1
And the tears fell on the golden leaf she gave

Chorus:
1
I'll be there, Mary dear, I'll be there
1 5
When the fragrance of the roses fills the air
1 4 1
'Neath the oak tree grand and tall, when the leaves begins to fall
1 5 1
I'll be there, I'll be there, sweet Mary dear


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Goodbye Sweet Liza Jane
Charlie Poole


1
Look-a-here, Liza, listen to me
4
You're not the gal that you promised to be
1 1 5
Didn't you say you would always be true
1
You went out driving with Mr Brown
4
I am the laughing stock of the town
1 5 1
People said to never trust you

2
Throw up your hands, babe, I'm a-gonna go
5
I was a good man while I had the dough
1
So it's goodbye (Miss/sweet) Liza
4
I'm a-going to leave you
5 1
You know when I go, I'm the fellow with the dough-dough-dough
4
So sing a little song, travel along, yes travel along
1
Bid you good-day, babe, I'm on my way
2 5 1
Goodbye sweet Lisa Jane

Give me here my gold watch and chain
Give me that umbrella for fear it might rain
Give me the clothes that I paid for, too
Dive in the trunk and hand me them things
Give me here my diamond ring
And get Mr. Brown to dress you all up new


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Goodbye Booze
Charlie Poole


1 4 1
Oh goodbye booze for evermore
1 5 1
My boozing days will soon be o'er
1 4 1
Oh, I had a good time, but we couldn't agree
1 5 1
You see what booze has done for me

She's tore my clothes, she's swelled my head
So goodbye booze, I'm going to bed
Oh, I had a good time, but we couldn't agree
You see what booze has done for me

She swelled my head, she broke my heart
So goodbye booze, we now shall part
Oh, I had a good time, but we couldn't agree
You see what booze has done for me

She whispered low, how sweet it sounds!
Take another ride on the merry-go-round
Oh, I had a good time, but we couldn't agree
You see what booze has done to me


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The Highwayman
Charlie Poole


1
As I went down to the old depot
4 1
To see the trains roll by
4 5
I think I see my dear old girl
5 1
Hang her head and cry

The night was dark and stormy
It surely looked like rain
Not a friend in this whole wide world
No one knew my name

Nobody knew my name, poor boy,
No one knew my name
Not a friend in this whole wide world
And no one knew my name

Wait, Mr. Judge, oh, wait, Mr. Judge
Wait a little while
I think I saw my dear old girl
She's walked for miles and miles

Dear girl, have you brought me silver?
Dear girl, have you brought me gold?
Or have you walked these long, long miles
To see me hanged upon a hangman's pole?

Dear boy, I've brought you silver
Dear boy, I've brought you gold
I have not walked these long, long miles
To see you hanged upon a hangman's pole

She takes me from the scaffold
She untied my hands
Tears rolled down that poor girl's cheeks
"I love that highwayman"




Hungry Hash House
Charlie Poole


1
I'm a boarder and I dwell
4 1
In that second class hotel
1 5
If I stay here long I think I'll be insane
1
For I lay here on my bunk
1 4 1
And I cannot get my trunk
1 5 1
And the board I owe would break a millionaire

4
Oh they feed on chicken pie
1
If you eat it you may die
1 5
Beef you cannot cut it with a sword
1
Oh, the undertakers hang around
4 1
For there's work to be found
1 5 1
In that awful hungry hash house where I board


Oh they carried me upstairs one night
I had neither gun nor knife
Something they had never done before
Oh the fleas held me down
While the chinches crept around
In that awful hungry hash house where I board

Oh, the beefsteak it was rare
And the butter had red hair
Baby had its feet (both/all) in the soup
Oh, the eggs they would not catch
If you touched one it would hatch
In that awful hungry hash house where I stay


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I Once Loved A Sailor
Charlie Poole


1 4
I once loved a sailor, once a sailor loved me
5 1
He was not the sailor that sailed o'er the wide flowing sea
1 4
He owned an airship, sailed like the bird on the wing
5 1
Every evening when the sun drew near he'd fly to my window and sing:

1
Come take a trip in my airship,
4
come take a sail round the stars
5
Come take a trip in through Venus,
1
come have a sail 'round the Mars
1
No one to see while we're kissing,
4
no one to tell while we spoon
5
Come take a trip in my airship
1
and we'll visit the man in the moon


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If I Lose, I Don't Care
Charlie Poole


(AIR: Battleship Maine, White House Blues)

D
I can't walk, neither can I talk
G D
Just getting back from the state of old New York
A7 D
One morning, before day

Flossie, oh, Flossie, now what is the matter?
Walked all the way from old Cincinnat-a
One morning, before day
D
If I lose let me lose
A7 D
I don't care how much I lose
D G
If I lose a hundred dollars while I'm trying to win a dime
A7 D
For my baby she keeps money all the time.

The blood was a-running and I was running too
To give my feet some exercise. I had nothing else to do
One morning, before day

The peas was so greasy, the meat was so fat
The boys was fighting Spaniards while I was fighting gnats
One morning, just 'fore day

See them girls sitting at the tanks
Ready to catch the freight train
they called old Nancy Hanks
One morning, before day


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If The River Was Whiskey
Charlie Poole

(AIR: Hesitation Blues)

Am E7 Am E7
If the river was whiskey and I was a duck
Am E Am C C7
I'd dive to the bottom and I'd never come up

Chorus:
F C - F - C
Oh, Tell me how long do I have to wait
G G C
Oh, Can I get you now? Or must I hesitate?

If the river was whiskey and the branch was wine
You would see me in bathing just any old time

I was born in England, raised in France
I ordered a suit of clothes and they wouldn't
send the pants

I was born in Alabama, I was raised in Tennessee
If you don't like my peaches, don't shake on my tree

I looked down the road just as far as I could see
A man had my woman and the blues had me

I ain't no doctor but the doctor's son
I can do the doct'rin' till the doctor comes

Got the hesitation socks, the hesitation shoes
Believe to my Lord I've got the hesitation blues


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Jay Gould's Daughter
Traditional

1
One Monday morning it begin to rain.
5
'Round the curve come a passenger train.
1
On the blind was Hobo John.
1 5 - 1 1
He's a good old hobo, but he's dead and gone.
4 4 1
Dead and gone, Dead and gone.
1 5 - 1 1
He's a good old hobo, but he's dead and gone.

Charlie Snyder was a good engineer
Told his fireman not to fear
Pour on your water, boys, and shovel on your coal
Stick your head out the window, see the drivers roll
See the drivers roll, etc.

1
Jay Gould's daughter said before she died
5
Papa, fix the blinds so the bums can't ride.
1
If ride they must, they got to ride the rod.
1 5 - 1 1
Let 'em put their trust in the hands of God.
4
In the hands of God.
4 1
In the hands of God.
1 5 - 1 1
Let them put their trust in the hands of God.

Jay Gould's daughter said, before she died,
There's two more trains I'd like to ride.
Jay Gould said, "What can they be ?"
The Southern Pacific and the Santa Fe.
The Santa Fe, etc.

Jay Gould's daughter said, before she died,
There's two more drinks I'd like to try.
Jay Gould said, "What can they be?
They's a glass o' water and a cup o' tea.
A cup o' tea, etc.


From Folksinger's Wordbook, Compiled by Fred and Irwin Silber,


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Leaving Dear Old Ireland
Charlie Poole

1 4 1
When leaving dear old Ireland In the merry month of June
1 2 5
The birds were sweetly singing All nature seemed in tune
1 4 1
An Irish girl accosted me With a sad tear in her eye
1 5 1
And as she spoke these words to me So bitterly she cried

1 4 1
'Kind sir, I ask a favor Will you grant it to me, please
1 2 5
It is not much I ask of you But it'll set my heart at ease
1 4 1
Take these to my brother Ned Who's far across the sea
1 5 1
And don't forget to tell him, sir That they were sent by me'

Chorus:
1 4 1
Three leaves of shamrock The Irish shamrock
1 2 5
From his own darling sister A message too she gave
1 4 1
Take these to my brother For I have no one other
1 5 1
And tell him they were gathered From his angel mother's grave

1 4 1
'Dear Ned, since you have went away How bitter's been our lot
1 2 5
The landlord came one winter night And drove us from our cot
1 4 1
Our troubles they were many Our friends were very few
1 5 1
Oh, brother, how my mother Used to often sigh for you'

1 4 1
'"Son, oh, son, come back again" She did so often say
1 2 5
At last she was stricken And soon was laid away
1 4 1
Her grave I watered with my tears That's where these flowers grew
1 5 1
Oh, brother, these are all I have And these I've sent to you'

Chorus:
1 4 1
Three leaves of shamrock The Irish shamrock
1 2 5
From his own darling sister A message too she gave
1 4 1
Take these to my brother For I have no one other
1 5 1
And tell him they were gathered From his angel mother's grave

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Look Before You Leap
Charlie Poole

1 4
Love is a very funny thing
1 5
It catches the young and old
1 4
Like a plate of boarding-house hash
1 - 5 1
That many a man has sold
4 1
It makes you feel like a freshwater eel
4 1
It'll cause your head to swell
1 4
You'll lose your mind, for love is blind
5 1
It takes all your money as well

When you're struck on a pretty little gal
You talk as gentle as a dove
He spends all his money and call her "Honey"
To show her he's solid on his love
When his money's all gone and his clothes in soak
He'll find the old saying true
"A mole on the arm's worth two on the leg"
But what is he going to do?

When married folks have a plenty of cash
Their love is fond and strong
But when they have to live on hash
Their love doesn't last very long
With a wife and seventeen half-starved kids
I'll tell you it's no fun
When the butcher comes around to collect his bill
With a dog and a double-barrel gun

When rent is high and the kids all cry
Because there's no food or chaw
You'll holler for your son to load up your gone
While you vaccinate your mother-in-law
With a wife and seventeen half-starved kids
I'll tell you it's no fun
When the butcher comes around to collect his bill
With a dog and a double-barrel gun


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Moving Day
Traditional


C
The landlord said this mornin' to me
G7 C
Let's have that key, this rent ain't free
C
I can't live on nothin', you see
G7 C C7
Pack up your bags and skidoo, you

F
I'm just waitin' for my Bill to get home
C
He's my honey from the honeycomb
D7 G
He said that he'd never leave me alone this mornin', because it's

CHORUS:
C D
Movin' day, movin' day
G
Rip the carpet right off of the floor
C
Get on your overcoat and get out the door
C F
It's movin' day, pack up your bags and get away
C
If you can't pay your rent you got to live out in a tent
G C
It's moo-oo-oovin' day

Bill come back all covered with snow
I said, "Hello. Let's have some dough.
Here's the landlord waitin' for rent."
Bill says, "I ain't got a cent. No."
Try and catch me, mister landlord man,
I'll be leavin' just as soon as I can
I'm goin' back to Dixieland this mornin', because it's ...

From Delaware Water Gap; Charlie Poole


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Old and Only in the Way
Traditional

D G D
When you walk along the street, how often do you meet
D E A
Some poor old man who's gotten old and gray
D G D
With age is back is bent, in his pockets not a cent
D A7 D
And for shelter he has no place to stay

G D
His relations by the score, they'll turn him from the door
D E A
They'll see him on the street and pass him by
D G D
If you ask them why they do, they'll turn and say to you
D A D
"He is poor, he's gray, he's only in the way."

cho:

Now let us cheer them on, for they won't be with us long
Don't quarrel with them because they're old and gray
Just remember while you're young that to you old age will come
When you'll be old and gray, and only in the way.

There was a time, I hear, when youth was not so queer
But since that time there's been an awful change
Young men with strength and might to their parents they bring strife
If it happens every day that's nothing strange

In shackles they did toil, their children they did spoil
As sure for death ofttimes they do pray
He and his faithful wife were toiling all their life
To find they're old and only in the way

Now my message, I am sure, is for rich as well as poor
Take a rich man when he's growing old
His relations 'round him stand, and take him by the hand
They all want him to die, they want his gold

Through life he did enjoy all the things that gold can buy
But all his gold, his life it could not save
After all he's like the poor when his journey's nearly o'er
He finds he's old and only in the way

from Charlie Poole

Hi - some of the lines in this post were too wide. To make the chord spacing work, I had to reduce the type size. I suppose some of the chords are still in the wrong places, but it's the best I could do.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: GUEST,Gary
Date: 30 Sep 02 - 03:35 PM

OK. I gotta figure out this line break thing.

Gary


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: wysiwyg
Date: 30 Sep 02 - 03:39 PM

That's OK, a Mudcat volunteer will be along to fix them, Gary.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: wysiwyg
Date: 30 Sep 02 - 03:40 PM

Gary,

If you want me to post them so the chords go where you wanted them, e-mail it to me at motormice@hotmail.com. But be sure to put the word MUDCAT in the subject line or it will not get through.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: GUEST,martoons
Date: 30 Sep 02 - 04:05 PM

Hey, what do you know about that! I already AM a member.

martoons


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: wysiwyg
Date: 30 Sep 02 - 04:14 PM

Chord file arrived looking like the chords are fine; I'll start posting them tonight.

~Susan


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Subject: Lyr/Chords Add: BALTIMORE FIRE
From: wysiwyg
Date: 30 Sep 02 - 04:35 PM

Here's a test. Is it looking like it should, Gary?

~Susan

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BALTIMORE FIRE
Traditional      

It was on a silver falls by a narrow
That I heard the cry I ever will remember,
The fire sent and cast its burning embers
On another fated city of our land.
   
CHO:
Fire, Fire, I heard the cry
From every breeze that passes by,
All the world was one sad cry of pity
Strong men in anguish prayed,
Calling loud to the Heavens for aid,
While the fire in ruin was laying
Fair Baltimore, the beautiful city

Amid-an-awful-struggle of commotion,
The-wind blew-a-gale from the ocean,
Brave firemen struggled with devotion,
But their efforts all proved in vain.

The awful news did spread across the wire
Of another sad catastrophe so dire,
That Baltimore City is afire,
And sinking 'neath the foe's relentless hand.

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CHORDS:

      G                            C
    It was on a silver falls by a narrow

            G                           D
    That I heard the cry I ever will remember,

         G                              C
    The fire sent and cast its burning embers

          G          D            G
    On another fated city of our land.

   
CHO:
    G
    Fire, Fire, I heard the cry

    C                      G
    From every breeze that passes by,

    C                G                D
    All the world was one sad cry of pity

    G      G      
    Strong men in anguish prayed,

    C                   G
    Calling loud to the Heavens for aid,

    C                      G
    While the fire in ruin was laying

         D             C            G
    Fair Baltimore, the beautiful city
   

SOURCE:
From New Lost City Ramblers; originally recorded by Charlie Poole.


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: wysiwyg
Date: 30 Sep 02 - 05:36 PM

I love e-mail! The above isn't right. Gary is working chords into the text like we do here sometimes, and sending them to me. I'll post them when I get them.

Worth working on and waiting for!

Thanks, again, Gary.

In the meantime, if anyone wants to search up old threads and the DT, for any of the above, and leave me word where they are, that would be a huge help.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: GUEST,Richie
Date: 30 Sep 02 - 09:31 PM

I'm playing up in Eden (Charlie's stomping grounds)with Doug Rorrer and Doc Watson. I have Kinney's book and e-mail address. I'm planning on seeing Kinney at the concert.

If there's anything you'd like me to ask him, let me know.

I'm interested in Charlie Poole and his music. I'd recommend getting Kinney's book. He has all of Charlie's lyrics and a lot of info about the songs.

Let me know if you need any help. I'll put a link to my web-site: Click here

-Richie


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: wysiwyg
Date: 30 Sep 02 - 09:36 PM

Thanks, Richie, nice to meet you!

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: GutBucketeer
Date: 30 Sep 02 - 10:53 PM

Fantastic Richie!

I have some Charlie Poole as well. I'll post My wife went away and shel left me pretty soon.

There is a sight that has the lyrics to many of his songs here:

Charlie Poole Lyrics Site

GutBucketeer


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: wysiwyg
Date: 30 Sep 02 - 11:12 PM

Joe, thanks, but no need to keep fixing these. We are working on them in e-mail to be posted more accurately.

~Susan



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Subject: RE: My Wife Went Away and She Left Me, C Poole
From: GutBucketeer
Date: 30 Sep 02 - 11:23 PM

My Wife Went Away And Left Me
Charlie Poole

3/3 time in D

D
My wife went away and she left me
D                       A
Out in this wide world alone
A
Sadness and gladness she left me
A                       D
She left a doggone good home
D
I wrote her a letter last Tuesday
D                G 
Sealed it with a kiss
G                         D
The answer came back next morning
D   A                       D
And what she said to me was this:

D
When the groc'ry man puts sand in the sugar
D                             A
The milkman makes milk out of chalk
A
Boys stay home with their mothers
A                   D
Women forget how to talk
D
When the ocean turns into corn whiskey
D                           G 
The railroad runs under the sea
G                                       D
And the man in the moon comes down in a balloon
D    A                          D
Then darling, I'll come back to thee

D
I sat down and wrote her another
D                 G
Sealed it with my fist
G                          D
The answer was mailed next morning
D   A                      D
And what I said to her was this

D
When the moon turns into an apple
D                          A
And a rainbow turns into a vine
A
They build a steeple to heaven
A                          D
The stars they all fail to shine
D
When the ocean turns into rye whiskey
D                        G
Makes glasses to see the wind
G                                D
When the girls quit using powder and paint
D    A                      D
Then darling, I'll ask you again


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 30 Sep 02 - 11:30 PM

Huge Charlie Poole fan here. Nobody's mentioned whether Kinney is related to Posey Rorrer

Thanks for the songs.

Rick


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Oct 02 - 12:00 AM

Rick,

Yes, Kinney and Doug (a great flatpicker) Rorrer are related to Posey Rorer (only one r). Doug told me he was his great uncle. I don't know why the spelling is different. I'll find out more this weekend when I'm up in Eden.

Gutbucketeer's post "My Wife Went Away And Left Me" was a tune Poole learned from Kelly Harrell, which was based on Charles Vann's 1889 song, "Then my Darling I'll come Back to Thee".

-Richie


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: wysiwyg
Date: 01 Oct 02 - 09:38 AM

I'm getting these all now in e-mail. I'll be starting a new, streamlined thread when I get them all tinkered up and matched with old threads.

~S~


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: wysiwyg
Date: 01 Oct 02 - 10:48 AM

WHITE HOUSE BLUES as sung by Charlie Poole, with chords by Gary.

MR. MCKINLEY as sung by Homer Brierhopper

Other versions in that same thread, HERE.

WHITE HOUSE BLUES as sung by John Renbourn; thread includes discussion of history, other related songs.

Also see DT.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: wysiwyg
Date: 01 Oct 02 - 12:21 PM

This post is just raw prep work, for me to use later when I clean all this up.

~S~

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BALTIMORE FIRE

Not at HD this title
The Digitrad Results
0.7742 - BALTIMORE FIRE: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=468

Threads:
Baltimore Fire..a 'new' old verse: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=457#1202

Are folk lyrics ever 'wrong?': http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=34695#479129 discusses mondegreen for this song, how it became "the" lyric

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Bill Mason
No HD, no DT, no threads

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Leaving Home

not in HD under this title.

as Frankie or Frankie & Johnny:

Title: Frankie
Artist: Dykes Magic City Trio
Recording Date: March 9, 1927
Side: A
Recording: Brunswick 127
Date Issued: May 1927
Side: B
(Flip side:
Brunswick 127,
Title: Poor Ellen Smith
Recording Date: March 9, 1927

DT:
LEAVING HOME (Charlie Poole): http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=3537

FRANKIE AND ALBERT: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=9011
FRANKIE AND JOHNNY: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=2122

Threads:
RE: Help: History on Frankie and Johnny - Jan 30 2002 1:33PM:
http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=43656#638752

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Look Before You Leap

no HD this title

NO DT this title

Threads:
FOLKSONGS APPROPRIATE FOR A WEDDING:
http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=5077 (song mentioned here, cross reference it)

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OLD AND ONLY IN THE WAY:

at honkingduck.com: http://honkingduck.com/BAZ/baz_side.php?meth=t&letter=o&title=Old%2520And%2520In%2520The%2520Way&cuid=20292A
Title: Old And In The Way
Artist: Fiddlin' John Carson
Recording: Okeh 40181
Date Issued: September 1924
Side: A
Flipside: Okeh 40181
Date Issued: September 1924
Title: When Abraham & Iasic Rushed The Can
Artist: Fiddlin' John Carson
Recording Date: Unknown

DT:
OLD AND ONLY IN THE WAY: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=4380

Threads:
Lyr Add: OLD AND IN THE WAY: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=4755#26301

RE: Old & In the Way lyrics: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=4755#26159

RE: ADD LYR: Old And In The Way: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=2867#12948

ADD LYR: Old And In The Way: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=2867#12871

RE: Old & In the Way lyrics: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=4755#645414

Old And In The Way: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=3813#19878

an Old & In the Way song"Pig in: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=625#1709

RE: Need 3rd Verse to pig in a pen: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=3975#20994

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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: wysiwyg
Date: 01 Oct 02 - 04:01 PM

As above, this is just raw copy for my further work on it.

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Budded Rose

HD:
Budded Rose: http://www.honkingduck.com/BAZ/baz_side.php?meth=a&letter=c&auid=1075&cuid=20122B

Recording: Columbia 15138 - D
Date Issued: April 1927
Side: B
Title: Budded Rose
Artist: Charlie Poole With The North Carolina Ramblers
Recording Date: September 18, 1926

no DT, no threads

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Don't Let Your Deal Go Down

Don't Let Your Deal Go Down: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=1651

no threads, except mentions of the song in passing

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The Girl I Loved In Sunny Tennessee

No HD, DT, or threads by that title

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Goodbye Mary Dear

Goodbye Mary Dear at HD: http://www.honkingduck.com/BAZ/baz_side.php?meth=t&letter=g&title=Good%2520-%2520Bye%2520Mary%2520Dear&cuid=20176A

Recording: Columbia 15456 - D
Date Issued: August 1929
Side: A
Title: Good-Bye Mary Dear
Artist: Charlie Poole With The North Carolina Ramblers
Recording Date: Unknown

No DT, no threads by that title

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Goodbye Sweet Liza Jane

No HD
No DT under that title

DT under LIZA JANE (same song???): http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=3659
DT PIG IN A PEN: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=4683

Numerous threads with various titles, smae song any of them???
Lyr Add: GOODBYE, LIZA JANE: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=2777#12058

Listed in a discogrqaphy at RE: Columbia Country Classics: http://www.mudcat.org/Detail.CFM?messages__Message_ID=293891

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Goodbye Booze

No HD

No DT this title

DT IF I COULD SHIMMY LIKE MY SISTER KATE: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=2921

Threads:
Mentioned in a Mainer discography at Help: MAPLE ON THE HILL: http://www.mudcat.org/Detail.CFM?messages__Message_ID=264476

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He Rambled

No HD this title
HD Didn't He Ramble: http://www.honkingduck.com/BAZ/baz_side.php?meth=t&letter=d&title=Didn%2527t%2520He%2520Ramble&cuid=20341B

Recording: Okeh 45569
Date Issued: Unknown
Side: B
Title: Didn't He Ramble
Artist: Fiddlin' John Carson And His Virginia Reelers
Recording Date: Unknown

A side was:
Recording: Okeh 45569
Date Issued: Unknown
Side: A
Title: After The Ball
Artist: Fiddlin' John Carson And His Virginia Reelers
Recording Date: December 9, 1930

DT:
HE RAMBLED: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=2550
DIDN'T HE RAMBLE: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=1567

Threads:
Numerous, look again, use both titles

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The Highwayman

HD
The Highwayman: http://www.honkingduck.com/BAZ/baz_side.php?meth=a&letter=c&auid=1075&cuid=20126A
Recording: Columbia 15160 - D
Date Issued: July 1927 1
Side: A
Title: The Highwayman
Artist: Charlie Poole With The North Carolina Ramblers
Recording Date: September 20, 1926

No DT that title

Threads:
Numerous, look again, so many used that title and are different songs

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Hungry Hash House

NO HD that title
HD All Go Hungry Hash House: 3 versions listed, go look again

Threads: several, go see again

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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: wysiwyg
Date: 01 Oct 02 - 05:03 PM

I think y'all can see how I am doing these, folks-- if you want to take a few on the list and leave me your notes as above, that would be pretty neat.

~S~


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: wysiwyg
Date: 02 Oct 02 - 01:47 AM

More raw copy to work in here or elsewhere.

~S~

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I Once Loved A Sailor

HD, DT: None by this title

Threads:
COME TAKE A TRIP ON MY AIR SHIP: http://www.mudcat.org/Detail.CFM?messages__Message_ID=425913

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I'm The Man That Rode the Mule 'Round the World

No HD that title.

DT:
I'M THE MAN THAT RODE THE MULE 'ROUND THE WORLD: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=8722

I WAS BORN ABOUT 10,000 YEARS AGO (And That's No Lie): http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=2884

JUST THE FACTS, MA'AM: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=3343

Threads:
Lyr Add: I'M THE MAN THAT RODE THE MULE 'ROUN: http://www.mudcat.org/Detail.CFM?messages__Message_ID=18445

ADD LYR: BORN 10,000 YEARS AGO: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=3613#18461

Thread

Thread

Thread

Thread

Thread
      
Thread

Thread
      
Thread

Thread

Thread

Thread

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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: wysiwyg
Date: 02 Oct 02 - 02:06 PM

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If I Lose, I Don't Care

No HD this title

Is the Tune "The Battleship Of Maine"? See at HD:
http://www.honkingduck.com/BAZ/baz_side.php?meth=t&letter=b&title=The%2520Battleship%2520Of%2520Maine&cuid=20398B

Recording: Victor 20936
Date Issued: October 1927
Side: B
Title: The Battleship Of Maine
Artist: Red Patterson's Piedmont Log Rollers
Flipside was:
Recording: Victor 20936
Date Issued: October 1927
Side: A
Title: I'll Never Get Drunk Any More
Artist: Red Patterson's Piedmont Log Rollers
Recording Date: Unknown

DT BATTLESHIP OF MAINE: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=540

See also DT relate to Battleship of Maine:
THAT CRAZY WAR
NINETEEN TWENTY EIGHT
COLONEL NIGHN

Several threads for BATTLESHIP OF MAINE

DT as IF I LOSE, LET ME LOSE: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=2925

No threads either title

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If The River Was Whiskey

No HD this title

DT
IF THE RIVER WAS WHISKEY: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=2932

See also DT ULTIMATE BLUES: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=7487

Threads:
Lyr Add: DIVING DUCK BLUES (Sleepy John Estes): http://www.mudcat.org/Detail.CFM?messages__Message_ID=392855

Several threads with related songs. The line about the duck is a floater appearing in many blues.


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: wysiwyg
Date: 02 Oct 02 - 02:31 PM

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Jay Gould's Daughter

No HD this title or as MILWAUKEE BLUES


DT:
Jay Gould's Daughter: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=3163

As MILWAUKEE BLUES: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=3980

Threads:
CHARLIE SNYDER: http://www.mudcat.org/Detail.CFM?messages__Message_ID=203514 includes origins discussion

Lyr Req: Old Bill Jones: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=48124#721117

Origins discussion at Ben Dewberry's Last Ride: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=7829#47475

RAILROAD SONG BUFFS--Check Here Please: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=30463#391075

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Jealous Mary


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: wysiwyg
Date: 02 Oct 02 - 02:33 PM

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Jealous Mary

No HD, DT, or threads by that title

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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: wysiwyg
Date: 03 Oct 02 - 12:38 PM

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Leaving Dear Old Ireland

No HD by that title or any titles used in the threads below

No DT by that title

Threads (Related songs and this song but with diff titles):
      
THREE LEAVES OF SHAMROCK

The Dear Old Shannon Shore

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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: wysiwyg
Date: 03 Oct 02 - 12:50 PM

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Monkey On A String

No HD that title

No DT that title

Threads:
Monkey on a String-Charlie Poole

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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: wysiwyg
Date: 03 Oct 02 - 12:59 PM

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Mother's Last Farewell Kiss

No HD, DT, threads that title

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Movin' Day

No HD that title

DT:
MOVING DAY: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=4055

Threads:

Related? Riley the Furniture Man: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=7482




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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: wysiwyg
Date: 03 Oct 02 - 02:57 PM

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My Gypsy Girl

No HD that title

NO DT that title

DT THE LITTLE GYPSY GIRL: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=6613

Someone suggests this is related in theme:
RAGGLE-TAGGLE GYPSY: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=7180

Threads:
Gypsy Girl

RAGGLE-TAGGLE GYPSY: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=1654

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My Wife Went Away And Left Me

NO HD that title

No DT that title

Threads:
My Wife Went Away And Left Me: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=36770

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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: wysiwyg
Date: 03 Oct 02 - 03:13 PM

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One Moonlight Night

No HD that title

No DT that title

NO threads that title

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Sourwood Mountain

No HD that title

MIDI: http://hetzler.homestead.com/music_2.html

DT Sourwood Mountain: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=5492

Threads:
Is there really a Sourwood Mountain?: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=16793 Includes lots of info and origin ideas, variants, etc.

Related song?: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=16793#158881

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Take A Drink On Me

No HD that title

DT: Take A Drink On Me: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=5650

"PC" version Take a whiff on me?: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=5651

Threads: None for DRINK, several for WHIFF

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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: wysiwyg
Date: 03 Oct 02 - 10:43 PM

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There'll Come A Time Someday

No HD, no DT, no threads that title

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To The Sweet Sunny South

No HD that title

DT: To The Sweet Sunny South: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=7362

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Write A Letter To My Mother

No HD that title

DT: Related? COME RAISE ME IN YOUR ARMS, DEAR BROTHER: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=1294

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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: wysiwyg
Date: 03 Oct 02 - 10:44 PM

OK, all you oldtimers, now I need your help on a few-- page up there through my posts and help me see whether or not a few of them are related to the threads where it's a similar song but a different title. Look for the places where I wrote, "Related?". I'm just the clerk; I've never even heard most of these.

~S~


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: GUEST,Richie
Date: 04 Oct 02 - 09:33 AM

Just a comment on Gary's posted lyrics:

Moving Day is usually entitled "It's Moving Day" and is composed by Andrew Sterling and Harry Von Tolzer in 1906.

Jay Gould's Daughter is a version of "Milwaukee Blues" but I don't recall Poole having sung these lyrics. What recording is "Jay Gould's Daughter" from? More info please?

Susan- great work on this thread, I'll help when I get time,

Richie


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 04 Oct 02 - 09:54 AM

Someone who is fiercely devoted to Charlie Poole is Debbie McClatchy. My impression is she always gives him a mention any time she is performing.


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: wysiwyg
Date: 04 Oct 02 - 10:30 AM

NOTE-- I am going to assume it's OK to move or copy comments from this thread into another one when I make the cleanup thread.

Thanks, Richie! That's just what I am looking for.

Yup, McG, yer right.

~S~


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Subject: Lyr Add: IT'S MOVIN' DAY (from Charlie Poole)^^^
From: GUEST,Gary
Date: 04 Oct 02 - 12:03 PM

Movin' Day
Oye!
I can't remember where I got these lyrics. While I try and remember, Here are the lyrics from the Charlie Poole site:

IT'S MOVIN' DAY

Landlord said this morning to me
"Give me your key, this lot ain't free
I can't get no rent out of you
Pack up your rags and skidoo, you"
"I've been waiting till my Bill comes home
He's my honey from the honeycomb
He'll have money 'cause he told me so this morning"

    Because it's moving day, moving day
    Rip the carpet up off the floor
    Load your oil stove and out the door
    'Cause it's moving day
    Pack your bed quilts and get away
    If you spend every cent you can live out in a tent
    It's moving day^^^


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: wysiwyg
Date: 05 Oct 02 - 01:03 PM

Here are a few more listed at http://world.std.com/~gdallal/charlie_poole.htm that I have not researched yet:

Can I Sleep in Your Barn Tonight Mister
C from Tennessee
Falling by the Wayside
Hangman Hangman Slack the Rope
Hungry Hash House
Husband and Wife Were Angry One Night
I Cannot Call Her Mother
I Left My German Home
I Once Loved a Sailor
Just Keep Waiting Till the Good Time Comes
Leaving Home
Letter That Never Came
Milwaukee Blues (see above, other titles?)
Mother's Plea for Her Son
My Gypsy Girl
Only Girl I Ever Loved
Ramblin' Blues
Shootin' Creek
Sweet Sixteen
Took My Gal a Walkin'
Wayward Boy
What Is Home Without Babies
When I'm Far Away
Where the Whippoorwill Is Whispering Goodnight
White House Blues
Young Boy Left His Home One Day
You Ain't Talkin' to Me


To research:

Honkingduck for recordings by these and variant titles, by Poole and others

DT for lyrics by these and variant titles, by Poole and others

Threads for these and variant titles, by Poole and others, for lyrics, history, origins, & commentary

Cowpie, for chords


Plus--

For the songs already researched-- add Cowpie for chords

For ALL songs-- Amazon, for sound clips

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Oct 02 - 04:08 PM

Nothing useful at Cowpie under Charlie Poole. Maybe under titles.

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Can I Sleep in Your Barn Tonight Mister

No HD that title

No DT, no threds that title

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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: wysiwyg
Date: 05 Oct 02 - 11:46 PM

clip of There'll Come A Time - Charlie Poole: http://store.liquid.com/en_US_USD/catalog/album.jhtml?id=1718 clip of White House Blues - Charlie Poole And The North Carolina Ramblers: CLICK

(see other artists both compilations)

CD: Legend of Charlie Poole, Vol. 3 Samples: CLICK 1. Look Before You Leap 2. Goodbye Liza Jane 3. Leaving Dear Old Ireland 4. Hungry Hash House 5. Milwaukee Blues

CD: Old Time Songs Recorded from 1925 to 1930 CLICK Samples: 1. White House Blues 2. Sweet Sunny South 3. Shootin' Creek 4. He Rambled 5. The Letter That Never Came

CD: Old Time Songs Recorded From 1926-1930, Vol. 2 CLICK Samples: 1. If the River Was Whiskey 2. Bill Mason 3. Baltimore Fire 4. Honeysuckle 5. My Gypsy Girl


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: wysiwyg
Date: 06 Oct 02 - 10:53 AM

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Falling by the Wayside

No HD, DT, threads that title

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Hangman Hangman Slack the Rope No HD, DT, threads that title

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Husband and Wife Were Angry One Night

No HD, DT, threads that title

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I Cannot Call Her Mother

DT Study: I Cannot Call Her Mother

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I Left My German Home

No HD, DT, threads that title

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Just Keep Waiting Till the Good Time Comes

No HD, DT, threads that title

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Leaving Home

No HD that title

See: http://207.103.108.101/thread.cfm?threadid=1120#3531

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Letter That Never Came

HD: http://honkingduck.com/BAZ/baz_side.php?meth=t&letter=l&title=The%2520Letter%2520That%2520Never%2520Came&cuid=20129A

Recording: Columbia 15179 - D Date Issued: August 1927 Side: A Title: The Letter That Never Came Artist: Charlie Poole With The North Carolina Ramblers Recording Date: July 25, 1927

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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: wysiwyg
Date: 06 Oct 02 - 11:42 AM

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Milwaukee Blues (see above, Jay Gould's daughter)

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Mother's Plea for Her Son

No HD, DT, threads that title

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My Gypsy Girl (see above)

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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: wysiwyg
Date: 06 Oct 02 - 12:16 PM

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Only Girl I Ever Loved

No HD, DT, threads that title

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Ramblin' Blues

No HD, DT, threads that title

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Shootin' Creek

HD: http://www.honkingduck.com/BAZ/baz_side.php?meth=t&letter=s&title=Shootin%2527%2520Creek&cuid=20150B

No HD as Ida Red

Recording: Columbia 15286 - D
Date Issued: June 1928
Side: B
Title: Shootin' Creek
Artist: Charlie Poole With The North Carolina Ramblers
Recording Date: Unknown

DT:
IDA RED/SHOOTIN CREEK: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=2916

Related threads:
(origins) Origin of Ida Red

(origins) Maybelline:What Are The Original Lyrics?

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Sweet Sixteen

No HD, DT that title or "when she was...."

Thread: WHEN SHE WAS SWEET SIXTEEN: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=47448#708214

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Took My Gal a Walkin'

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Wayward Boy

No HD, DT that title

Several threads that title, but it's another song

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What Is Home Without Babies

HD: http://www.honkingduck.com/BAZ/baz_side.php?meth=t&letter=w&title=What%2520Is%2520Home%2520Without%2520Babies&cuid=20375B

Supertone (Sears) 9492
Date Issued: September 1929
Side: B
Title: What Is Home Without Babies
Artist: The Boone County Entertainers
Recording Date: Unknown

B side: Virginia Bootleggers

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When I'm Far Away

No HD, DT that title

Related lyrics-- song is all floaters, appear in other songs. Without hearing the tune I can't say what's related.

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Where the Whippoorwill Is Whispering Goodnight

No HD, DT, threads that title or text sample

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White House Blues (see above)

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Young Boy Left His Home One Day

No HD, DT, threads that title or text sample

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You Ain't Talkin' to Me

HD: http://www.honkingduck.com/BAZ/baz_side.php?meth=t&letter=y&title=You%2520Ain%2527t%2520Talkin%2527%2520To%2520Me&cuid=20131A

Recording: Columbia 15193 - D
Date Issued: October 1927
Side: A
Title: You Ain't Talkin' To Me
Artist: Charlie Poole With The North Carolina Ramblers
Recording Date: Unknown

Thread: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=24022#272076


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: GUEST,Richie
Date: 06 Oct 02 - 01:15 PM

Just a quit post about Posey Rorer, Poole's fiddler. I played up in Eden, NC with Doc Watson and Doug Rorrer last night at Morehead High School less than one mile from where Poole died.

Doug Rorrer said, "Posey is my great-uncle. Charlie Poole also married into the family. Posey and some of the family spell the name with 3 R's, we spell it with 4 R's."

Doug is a great flatpicker. He has a small label called 'Flying Cloud Recordings'. Tony Rice and the other Rice brothers are also from the area (Reidsville, NC). Wayne Henderson records some on "Flying Cloud'.

-Richie


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Subject: Lyr Add: WHAT IS A HOME WITHOUT LOVE / ...BABIES
From: Rolfyboy6
Date: 06 Oct 02 - 01:31 PM

WHAT IS A HOME WITHOUT BABIES-alternate title: What Is A Home Without Love

I've not found the Poole lyrics on line (Louvin lyrics below). I'm familiar with this from the Monroe Brothers' 1930s recordings ("Feast Here Tonight" in print as a CD), but didn't find their particular lyrics.
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From the Folk Music Index:
What is a Home without Babies(Love)? - Monroe, Charlie

    #
   1. Monroe Brothers. Feast Here Tonight, Bluebird AXM2-5510, LP (1975), cut# 2 Poole, Charlie; and the North Carolina Ramblers. Charlie Poole, 1926-30, Historical HLP-8005, LP (1975), cut# 4

What Is Home Without Love

    #
      Louvin Brothers. Tragic Songs of Life, Rounder SS012, LP (199?), cut#A.04
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Also: Recorded by Doc Watson: Doc Watson and David Grisman - Doc and Dawg
Acoustic Disc 25 Acoustic Disc:Flatpick Merchantile: Doc and Dawg, also check the amazon page Doc and Dawg.
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Also a reference to Harry and Jeannie West doing this song, but couldn't find the recording. Others will know.
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Charlie Poole version: Norm's 78, listening room (5th one down)- Charlie Poole

No Charlie Poole Amazon soundclip for this song. Here's the Amazon master page for the Charlie Poole CDs they carry. Amazon: Charlie Poole
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Here are words and chords for the Louvin Brothers version: E-Tabs: Louvin Brothers

What is Home Without Love
As recorded by the Louvin Bros.
album: Tragic Songs of Life
(Traditional arranged by Charlie and Ira Louvin)
Recorded May 2, 1956.

˛, Bb

I
Sad and alone in a mansion
                                 V
No loving wife to caress

Sat a man sad and lonely
                                          I
No loving wife's lips to kiss

She married him for (possessions?)
                                           IV
No love in her heart had she
                                  I
Sad and alone, in his fine home
V                                                 I
He looked all around him and said

Chorus, same progression.

What is a home without a baby?
To love and to tease and adore?
What is home without a sweet wife?
To kiss you each night at the door?
What is a home without sunshine?
To spread its bright rays from above?
You can have wealth and its pleasures
But what is a home without love?

Walking down the streets one evening
He passed by a cottage so neat
Stopped and looked in the window
He saw there a picture so sweet
A husband, a wife, and a baby
They were hugging and kissing too
He turned aside, his tears to cry
And from his lips came these words

chorus
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Forum search: What is a Home without Love
No other DT or forum results.


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: wysiwyg
Date: 06 Oct 02 - 01:56 PM

Thanks to you both!

~Susan


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Subject: Lyr Add: WHAT IS A HOME WITHOUT BABIES?
From: GUEST,Richie
Date: 06 Oct 02 - 02:22 PM

WHAT IS A HOME WITHOUT BABIES?
Charlie Poole with the North Carolina Ramblers
Columbia 15307-D, July 23, 1928


All alone in a mansion
With no one to love and caress
Sat a man noble and handsome
No loving wife's lips to press
She married him for his position
No love was in her heart
He looked around in his grand home
And from his lips came these words

What is a home without babies,
To love and to tease you adore?
What is home without a sweet wife,
To kiss you each night at the door?
What is a home without sunshine,
To shed its bright rays from above?
You may have wealth and its pleasure
But what is a home without love?

Down the street he walked one evening
Passed a cottage so neat.
Stopped and looked in the window
And see a picture so sweet
A husband and wife, and baby
Laughing and kissing too
He turned aside, his tears to hide
And from his lips came these words

chorus

Notes: Roy Harvey recorded "What is a Home Without Love" in 1927 for Brunswick.


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: GUEST,Richie
Date: 07 Oct 02 - 01:33 PM

The Charlie Poole Website: http://world.std.com/~gdallal/charlie_poole.htm
Has- "C from Tennessee" which is "Coon from Tennessee".

Substitutes words are added for offensive racial slurs, which is something I also do, but I footnote (*) the changed lyrics and at the bottom add: *Substitute lyrics- racial slurs.

Personally even though I do have some offensive lyrics on my website- Click here
they are only in several "Original Lyrics" entries put there for historical reference. It's a problem because I believe in authenticity but not in perpetuating offensive racial lyrics.

Susan, I have Poole's lyrics, should I just start posting them with background info? I could do maybe one a week.

-Richie


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: wysiwyg
Date: 07 Oct 02 - 01:45 PM

Richie, I'd appreciate it if you would wait-- I want to start a Part Two of this thread. Some of the songs will go there, but some will need to go into older, existing threads. I'll leave word here on that, starting on Thursday, OK? I have a biz trip tomorrow and Wednesday first. I also have Gary's chords to a lot of them and we need to get them posted in the same place as the lyrics.

~S~


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: GUEST,Pete Peterson
Date: 08 Oct 02 - 11:22 AM

I'm sure glad somebody is doing this-- Poole's lyrics and songs deserve a wider circulation than he's gotten. Never understood why standard string band confguration includes a clawhammer banjo and not a three finger Poole-style banjo. Gary, Susan-- THANKS!!!!!!!!! more comments later


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: GUEST,Pete Peterson
Date: 09 Oct 02 - 03:52 PM

Hey-- thanks again! where did that third verse for Old and Gray come from??


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: wysiwyg
Date: 09 Oct 02 - 03:54 PM

Pete-- because there are not enough Debby McClatchys to go around? *G*

~S~


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: GUEST,Richie
Date: 09 Oct 02 - 10:03 PM

Pete-

The third verse posted by Gary didn't come from Poole and there are some slight changes in lyrics . The original "Old and Only in the Way" was copyrighted in 1880 by Downey and Billings. I don't have the original lyrics.

Perhaps it's Fiddlin' John Carson's.

-Richie


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: Jim Krause
Date: 09 Oct 02 - 11:56 PM

Pete, well I know of one old-time string band that does make use of three finger (modified) Charlie Poole style banjo playing on occasion. The Euphoria String Band does some of Charlie Poole's material.

Jim


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: GUEST,Richie
Date: 10 Oct 02 - 12:03 AM

It's interesting to note that Poole copied the classical style of Fred Van Eps, and his later recordings involve rolls similar to the style Earl Scruggs would later define.

-Richie


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: GUEST,Richie
Date: 10 Oct 02 - 11:38 PM

Susan,

I think Gary has done a great job presenting Charlie's work both on his web-site and on this thread.

I'm not sure what format you want me to present lyrics and info. I don't have all of Poole's recording's but I have his lyrics and I can use the info Kinney Rorrer has plus add in what I have.

I'm swamped right now with some performances this weekend but should be free next week to help.

Let me know what I can do.

-Richie


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: wysiwyg
Date: 12 Oct 02 - 01:35 PM

Well, I've been banging away on cleaning up all the copy abopve and making links, in my word processor.

Richie, I wonder how many of your lyrics for various artists match up with songs that can be heard online at Honkingduck? Please see: Mudcat Honkingduck Oldtime Project Proposal.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: wysiwyg
Date: 04 Nov 02 - 11:22 PM

Following are the tracklists from the Poole reissue CDs currently available... a thread for each CD (and the songs in it) will be created. In those, we'll post any songs not already at Mudcat, or add chords or links to where they can be found at Mudcat.

If one purchases these items via CAMSCO, Mudcat gets a cut. Contact them at http://www.mudcat.org/product_request/index.cfm.

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Old Time Songs Recorded from 1925 to 1930
(Charlie Poole)
(http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000012F2/ref=m_art_li_1//103-8336259-5094262?v=glance)

With sound clips:
1. White House Blues
2. Sweet Sunny South
3. Shootin' Creek
4. He Rambled
5. The Letter That Never Came

Without sound clips:
6. Mountain Reel
7. You Ain't Talkin' To Me
8. Sweet Sixteen
9. Leaving Home
10. Took My Gal A Walkin'
11. Monkey On A String
12. Ramblin' Blues
13. Flying Clouds
14. Falling By The Wayside
15. Don't Let Your Deal Go Down Blues
16. Take A Drink On Me

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Old Time Songs Recorded From 1926-1930, Vol. 2
(Charlie Poole)
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000012F9/ref=m_art_li_2//103-8336259-5094262?v=glance

No sound clips:
1. If the River Was Whiskey
2. Bill Mason
3. Baltimore Fire
4. Honeysuckle
5. My Gypsy Girl
6. Ragtime Annie
7. It's Movin' Day
8. Budded Rose
9. Kiss Waltz
10. Jealous Mary
11. Wild Horse
12. If I Lose, I Don't Care
13. There'll Come a Time
14. Southern Melody
15. Mother's Last Farewell Kiss
16. One Moonlight Night

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Legend of Charlie Poole, Vol. 3
(Charlie Poole)
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00000HF4V/ref=m_art_li_3//103-8336259-5094262?v=glance

With sound clips:
1. Look Before You Leap
2. Goodbye Liza Jane
3. Leaving Dear Old Ireland
4. Hungry Hash House
5. Milwaukee Blues

Without sound clips:
6. Goodbye Booze
7. Too Young to Marry
8. Highwayman
9. Write a Letter to My Mother
10. Girl I Left in Sunny Tennessee
11. My Wife Went Away and Left Me
12. Old and Only in the Way
13. I Once Loved a Sailor
14. Forks of Sandy
15. I'm the Man That Rode the Mule Around the World
16. Goodbye Mary Dear

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~Susan


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: Ron Olesko
Date: 05 Nov 02 - 02:28 PM

Speaking of Charlie Poole, this Sunday 11/10 at 4pm I will be broadcasting a program of Charlie Poole music. My guest will be Kinney Rorrer, author of the book "Rambling Blues: The Songs and Story of Charlie Poole".   Kinney is also related to Posey Rorrer, the fiddler in the original North Carolina Ramblers.

You can listen to TRADITIONS on WFDU-FM, 89.1FM in the NYC area or via the internet at www.wfdu.fm

Hope you can tune in!   Kinney had some fascinating stories about Poole, a larger than life character.   Of course we will feature a number of great Poole tunes!

Ron Olesko
Producer/Host
WFDU-FM's
TRADITIONS


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: wysiwyg
Date: 05 Nov 02 - 02:30 PM

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lucky YOU! Thanks for inviting us!

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: GutBucketeer
Date: 08 Nov 02 - 03:47 PM

Susan, thanks for all of the hard work on Charlie Poole!

Guest:Richie in a post provided above mentions "Gary's Website". Does anyone know the URL?

How can I get a copy of the original lyric and chord files electronically that have the chords in the correct positions. If you send it to me at Gutbucketeer@yahoo.com I will be glad to convert them to HTML and post them with the chords in the correct place.

JAB


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: GUEST,Richie
Date: 08 Nov 02 - 08:28 PM

Gut Bucketeer-

Gary posts a link to his site; fifth post. Gary has some chords.

Susan- I can post info on songs etc. How/where do you want me to do that? You mentioned a seperate thread earlier.

-Richie


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Subject: Lyr Add: SWEET SUNNY SOUTH (Charlie Poole)
From: Richie
Date: 19 Nov 02 - 09:55 AM

Lry. Add: SWEET SUNNY SOUTH Charlie Poole

Take me back to a place where I first saw the light,
To the sweet sunny south take me home.
Where the mockingbirds sang me to rest ev'ry night,
Oh, why was I tempted to roam?

I think of regret of the dear home I left,
Of the warm hearts who cheered me then.
Of the wife and the dear ones of whom I'm bereft,
An s sight of the old place again.

Take me home to a place where my little ones sleep
And old Massa lies buried nearby
O'er the graves of my loved ones I long there to weep
And among them to rest and to die

Take me back to the place where the orange trees grow
To my cot in the evergreen shade
Where the flowers on the river's green margin they grow
They are sweet on the banks where we played

'Til the path to our cottage they say has grown green
The place is quite lonely around
And I know that the smiles and the forms I have seen
Now lies in the cold mossy ground

Take me back, let me see what is left that I knew
Can it be that the old house is gone?
Dear friends of my childhood indeed must be few
And now I must face death all alone
not a Poole verse

Take me home to a place where my little ones sleep
And old Massa lies buried nearby
O'er the graves of my loved ones I long there to weep
And among them to rest and to die

Notes: Charlie Poole's North Carolina Ramblers version from Kinney Rorrer's book 'Rambling Blues.' Poole recorded this in NY on May 7, 1929, CO-15425-D. It was first done by the North Carolina Ramblers in 1927, Chicago, Ill. with Roy Harvey- Vocal.

Printed versions, under a number of titles, were usually credited to either 'Raymond' or else 'W. L. Bloomfield (in the 1850's). The cover of an 1850's music sheet is reprinted with the notes to the version recorded by Kentucky fiddle-player Buddy Thomas on his album Kitty Puss (Rounder CD 0032).

Laws has two versions. This is the version that starts "Take me back to a place where I first saw the light, To the sweet sunny south take me home" a longing for teh South. It should not to be confused with "The Sweet Sunny South (I)" [Laws A23], a (Confederate) soldier's farewell.

The other version in the DT "To the Sweet Sunny South" resembles Poole's version but is not his version.

-Richie


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: Richie
Date: 19 Nov 02 - 10:12 AM

Joe Offer-

This verse should be deleted from Poole's version:

Take me back, let me see what is left that I knew
Can it be that the old house is gone?
Dear friends of my childhood indeed must be few
And now I must face death all alone

Sorry, I used a different version to reduce typing, then edited it. I Forgot to remove the verse.

-Richie


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: Joe Offer
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 01:54 PM

Over the last couple weeks, I made up a new promo brochure for Debby McClatchy. In exchange for the layout, she gave me some songbooks - including Kinney Rorrer's Rambling Blues. I think the Rorrer book includes ALL of Poole's lyrics, but I'm not sure of that. There aren't THAT many songs in the book. For printing, Debby paid me cash. I thought I'd spend the cash (about $50 left after materials purchase) on some Charlie Poole CD's. Can anybody make any recommendations? there are lots of Poole CD's available, but many of them share the same tracks. Are there three or four CD's I can buy that will give me much of what Poole recorded, without duplicating tracks?
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: GUEST,Hootenanny
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 05:26 PM

Joe,
Check out County Sales; www.countysales.com down in Floyd, Virginia. Excellent mail order service, I've been dealing with them for over 30 years. I'm not sure if it is one or two CD's that they have of Poole on their own label which was once the only source for his re-issued material on vinyl.

As you will have seen from Kinney's book most of Poole's material is from sheet music from the late 1800's but what he did with it was great. I still have one two of his 78's.

You might(?) see other compilations of Poole but I would recommend the County's for sound and general overall production.

Good listening


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 02 Sep 04 - 05:48 PM

County has the three CDs of Poole with the North Carolina Ramblers. Juneberry (available at CAMSCO, too) has "Charlie Poole-The Remaining Sides"


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: NormanD
Date: 19 Aug 09 - 03:08 PM

I'm reviving this old thread. Loudon Wainwright was on the radio tonight (BBC Radio 2, Mike Harding) talking about his forthcoming 2Xcd of songs of Charlie Poole.

If anyone (like I was) is now looking for lyrics / chords, just go here.

Thanks for all that past work.


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 19 Aug 09 - 03:53 PM

For those on the other side of the pond (sometimes the BBC online players don't work for us), there's Terry Gross's "Fresh Air" interview on NPR:

A 'Handsome' Tribute From Loudon Wainwright:

August 19, 2009 - The latest project from famed singer-songwriter Loudon Wainwright III is a double-album tribute to another musician entirely. Called High Wide and Handsome: The Charlie Poole Project, it's a celebration of the old-time country banjo player, who died in 1931.

Wainwright and producer Dick Connette dug into Charlie Poole's recordings ? and into Kinney Rorrer's biography, Ramblin' Blues ? eventually writing nine new songs about the life and times of a man they celebrate as a country-music pioneer.

Wainwright began his own career three decades after Poole's death, making a name for himself in the '60s with humorous and autobiographical songs. In 1972, on his Album III, he scored the Top 40 hit "Dead Skunk," and since then he's recorded 20 albums.

Wainwright co-wrote (with Joe Henry) the music for the film Knocked Up; as an actor, he's appeared in that film and many other movies and TV shows, from three episodes of the 1970s hit M*A*S*H to this summer's family comedy G-Force. His own family is famously musical: Rufus Wainwright and Martha Wainwright, both singer-songwriters, are Wainwright's children with ex-wife Kate McGarrigle, herself a noted folk singer.

~ Becky in Tucson


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: Leadfingers
Date: 19 Aug 09 - 05:41 PM

Beaten to it Twice!! Louden Wainright is well worth a look at , and listen to !


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: open mike
Date: 20 Aug 09 - 12:10 AM

Louden Wainwright's web site...
http://www.lwiii.com/about.php?section=news


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 20 Aug 09 - 12:42 PM

JSP has put out a 5-CD set that contains (as far as I can tell) everything Poole recorded, including the Highlander recordings. Available from CAMSCO, of course. $27.50


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: Cool Beans
Date: 20 Aug 09 - 03:55 PM

That sneaky Loudon! I saw him in January at a club in Toronto and he never mentioned (or played) anything relating to Charlie Poole. It was just the usual Songs About Booze and Damaged Relationships. The man can keep a secret.


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: The Sandman
Date: 21 Aug 09 - 07:48 AM

Charlie Poole was great.he used to do a version of this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmqpgT0ClK4&feature=channel_page


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: Wesley S
Date: 10 Jun 10 - 06:12 PM

I've been listening to the Louden Wainwright recordings the last few days and they are excellect. Well worth a listen.


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: Janie
Date: 11 Jun 10 - 05:56 PM

I'm headed out in the morning to the Charlie Poole Festival. It's only about 45 minutes from my house but I have not been able to attend before. Looking forward to it.


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: open mike
Date: 11 Jun 10 - 09:47 PM

Here is more info about Loudon Wainwright III project with Dick Connette High, Wide and handsome: http://www.thecharliepooleproject.com/home.html

here is more info about the festival in Eden, No. Carolina
http://www.charlie-poole.com/


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Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest
From: GUEST,Eunice Rice - Eden, NC
Date: 07 Jun 12 - 05:53 PM

I have three Charlie Poole's Early Albums recorded between 1925 - 1930. One is a Limited Collectors Edition. One is County 540 - Volume 4, the Limited Edition is County 505 and the last one is The Legend of Charlie Poole all with the NC Ramblers and the last album I listed is 515. Lots of biography written on the back of all the albums. They all are 33 1/2 rpm.I inherited these from my Dad's Estate and would like to sell them if anyone is interested. Not sure what they are worth but for a Collector and a devout follower of Charlie Poole they should be worth quite a bit. I'd like to get at least $25.00 each from them. My email is etrice18@yahoo.com if anyone is interested and the Charlie Poole Festival is this Friday and Sat. in the Spray area. June 8 and June 9. Thanks!


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