Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest From: wysiwyg Date: 03 Oct 02 - 03:13 PM ===================================== One Moonlight Night No HD that title No DT that title NO threads that title ========================================== Sourwood Mountain No HD that title MIDI: http://hetzler.homestead.com/music_2.html DT Sourwood Mountain: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=5492 Threads: Is there really a Sourwood Mountain?: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=16793 Includes lots of info and origin ideas, variants, etc. Related song?: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=16793#158881 ========================================= Take A Drink On Me No HD that title DT: Take A Drink On Me: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=5650 "PC" version Take a whiff on me?: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=5651 Threads: None for DRINK, several for WHIFF ================================ |
Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest From: wysiwyg Date: 03 Oct 02 - 02:57 PM ================================= My Gypsy Girl No HD that title NO DT that title DT THE LITTLE GYPSY GIRL: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=6613 Someone suggests this is related in theme: RAGGLE-TAGGLE GYPSY: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=7180 Threads: Gypsy Girl RAGGLE-TAGGLE GYPSY: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=1654 ========================================================= My Wife Went Away And Left Me NO HD that title No DT that title Threads: My Wife Went Away And Left Me: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=36770 ============================================= |
Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest From: wysiwyg Date: 03 Oct 02 - 12:59 PM ============================== Mother's Last Farewell Kiss No HD, DT, threads that title ================================= Movin' Day No HD that title DT: MOVING DAY: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=4055 Threads: Related? Riley the Furniture Man: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=7482 |
Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest From: wysiwyg Date: 03 Oct 02 - 12:50 PM ======================= Monkey On A String No HD that title No DT that title Threads: Monkey on a String-Charlie Poole ======================================= |
Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest From: wysiwyg Date: 03 Oct 02 - 12:38 PM ===================== Leaving Dear Old Ireland No HD by that title or any titles used in the threads below No DT by that title Threads (Related songs and this song but with diff titles): THREE LEAVES OF SHAMROCK The Dear Old Shannon Shore ============================================== |
Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest From: wysiwyg Date: 02 Oct 02 - 02:33 PM ====================================== Jealous Mary No HD, DT, or threads by that title ====================================== |
Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest From: wysiwyg Date: 02 Oct 02 - 02:31 PM ============================================ Jay Gould's Daughter No HD this title or as MILWAUKEE BLUES DT: Jay Gould's Daughter: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=3163 As MILWAUKEE BLUES: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=3980 Threads: CHARLIE SNYDER: http://www.mudcat.org/Detail.CFM?messages__Message_ID=203514 includes origins discussion Lyr Req: Old Bill Jones: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=48124#721117 Origins discussion at Ben Dewberry's Last Ride: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=7829#47475 RAILROAD SONG BUFFS--Check Here Please: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=30463#391075 ===================================== Jealous Mary |
Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest From: wysiwyg Date: 02 Oct 02 - 02:06 PM ====================================== If I Lose, I Don't Care No HD this title Is the Tune "The Battleship Of Maine"? See at HD: http://www.honkingduck.com/BAZ/baz_side.php?meth=t&letter=b&title=The%2520Battleship%2520Of%2520Maine&cuid=20398B Recording: Victor 20936 Date Issued: October 1927 Side: B Title: The Battleship Of Maine Artist: Red Patterson's Piedmont Log Rollers Flipside was: Recording: Victor 20936 Date Issued: October 1927 Side: A Title: I'll Never Get Drunk Any More Artist: Red Patterson's Piedmont Log Rollers Recording Date: Unknown DT BATTLESHIP OF MAINE: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=540 See also DT relate to Battleship of Maine: THAT CRAZY WAR NINETEEN TWENTY EIGHT COLONEL NIGHN Several threads for BATTLESHIP OF MAINE DT as IF I LOSE, LET ME LOSE: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=2925 No threads either title ========================================== If The River Was Whiskey No HD this title DT IF THE RIVER WAS WHISKEY: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=2932 See also DT ULTIMATE BLUES: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=7487 Threads: Lyr Add: DIVING DUCK BLUES (Sleepy John Estes): http://www.mudcat.org/Detail.CFM?messages__Message_ID=392855 Several threads with related songs. The line about the duck is a floater appearing in many blues. ================================== |
Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest From: wysiwyg Date: 02 Oct 02 - 01:47 AM More raw copy to work in here or elsewhere. ~S~ ===================================== I Once Loved A Sailor HD, DT: None by this title Threads: COME TAKE A TRIP ON MY AIR SHIP: http://www.mudcat.org/Detail.CFM?messages__Message_ID=425913 ===================================== I'm The Man That Rode the Mule 'Round the World No HD that title. DT: I'M THE MAN THAT RODE THE MULE 'ROUND THE WORLD: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=8722 I WAS BORN ABOUT 10,000 YEARS AGO (And That's No Lie): http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=2884 JUST THE FACTS, MA'AM: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=3343 Threads: Lyr Add: I'M THE MAN THAT RODE THE MULE 'ROUN: http://www.mudcat.org/Detail.CFM?messages__Message_ID=18445 ADD LYR: BORN 10,000 YEARS AGO: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=3613#18461 Thread Thread Thread Thread Thread Thread Thread Thread Thread Thread Thread ===================================================== |
Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest From: wysiwyg Date: 01 Oct 02 - 05:03 PM I think y'all can see how I am doing these, folks-- if you want to take a few on the list and leave me your notes as above, that would be pretty neat. ~S~ |
Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest From: wysiwyg Date: 01 Oct 02 - 04:01 PM As above, this is just raw copy for my further work on it. =================================== Budded Rose HD: Budded Rose: http://www.honkingduck.com/BAZ/baz_side.php?meth=a&letter=c&auid=1075&cuid=20122B Recording: Columbia 15138 - D Date Issued: April 1927 Side: B Title: Budded Rose Artist: Charlie Poole With The North Carolina Ramblers Recording Date: September 18, 1926 no DT, no threads ======================================= Don't Let Your Deal Go Down Don't Let Your Deal Go Down: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=1651 no threads, except mentions of the song in passing ======================================= The Girl I Loved In Sunny Tennessee No HD, DT, or threads by that title ======================================= Goodbye Mary Dear Goodbye Mary Dear at HD: http://www.honkingduck.com/BAZ/baz_side.php?meth=t&letter=g&title=Good%2520-%2520Bye%2520Mary%2520Dear&cuid=20176A Recording: Columbia 15456 - D Date Issued: August 1929 Side: A Title: Good-Bye Mary Dear Artist: Charlie Poole With The North Carolina Ramblers Recording Date: Unknown No DT, no threads by that title =========================================== Goodbye Sweet Liza Jane No HD No DT under that title DT under LIZA JANE (same song???): http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=3659 DT PIG IN A PEN: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=4683 Numerous threads with various titles, smae song any of them??? Lyr Add: GOODBYE, LIZA JANE: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=2777#12058 Listed in a discogrqaphy at RE: Columbia Country Classics: http://www.mudcat.org/Detail.CFM?messages__Message_ID=293891 ============================================ Goodbye Booze No HD No DT this title DT IF I COULD SHIMMY LIKE MY SISTER KATE: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=2921 Threads: Mentioned in a Mainer discography at Help: MAPLE ON THE HILL: http://www.mudcat.org/Detail.CFM?messages__Message_ID=264476 ============================================ He Rambled No HD this title HD Didn't He Ramble: http://www.honkingduck.com/BAZ/baz_side.php?meth=t&letter=d&title=Didn%2527t%2520He%2520Ramble&cuid=20341B Recording: Okeh 45569 Date Issued: Unknown Side: B Title: Didn't He Ramble Artist: Fiddlin' John Carson And His Virginia Reelers Recording Date: Unknown A side was: Recording: Okeh 45569 Date Issued: Unknown Side: A Title: After The Ball Artist: Fiddlin' John Carson And His Virginia Reelers Recording Date: December 9, 1930 DT: HE RAMBLED: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=2550 DIDN'T HE RAMBLE: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=1567 Threads: Numerous, look again, use both titles ============================================== The Highwayman HD The Highwayman: http://www.honkingduck.com/BAZ/baz_side.php?meth=a&letter=c&auid=1075&cuid=20126A Recording: Columbia 15160 - D Date Issued: July 1927 1 Side: A Title: The Highwayman Artist: Charlie Poole With The North Carolina Ramblers Recording Date: September 20, 1926 No DT that title Threads: Numerous, look again, so many used that title and are different songs ===================================================== Hungry Hash House NO HD that title HD All Go Hungry Hash House: 3 versions listed, go look again Threads: several, go see again =========================================== |
Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest From: wysiwyg Date: 01 Oct 02 - 12:21 PM This post is just raw prep work, for me to use later when I clean all this up. ~S~ ===================================================== BALTIMORE FIRE Not at HD this title The Digitrad Results 0.7742 - BALTIMORE FIRE: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=468 Threads: Baltimore Fire..a 'new' old verse: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=457#1202 Are folk lyrics ever 'wrong?': http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=34695#479129 discusses mondegreen for this song, how it became "the" lyric =========================== Bill Mason No HD, no DT, no threads ========================== Leaving Home not in HD under this title. as Frankie or Frankie & Johnny: Title: Frankie Artist: Dykes Magic City Trio Recording Date: March 9, 1927 Side: A Recording: Brunswick 127 Date Issued: May 1927 Side: B (Flip side: Brunswick 127, Title: Poor Ellen Smith Recording Date: March 9, 1927 DT: LEAVING HOME (Charlie Poole): http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=3537 FRANKIE AND ALBERT: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=9011 FRANKIE AND JOHNNY: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=2122 Threads: RE: Help: History on Frankie and Johnny - Jan 30 2002 1:33PM: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=43656#638752 =================================================== Look Before You Leap no HD this title NO DT this title Threads: FOLKSONGS APPROPRIATE FOR A WEDDING: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=5077 (song mentioned here, cross reference it) ============================================ OLD AND ONLY IN THE WAY: at honkingduck.com: http://honkingduck.com/BAZ/baz_side.php?meth=t&letter=o&title=Old%2520And%2520In%2520The%2520Way&cuid=20292A Title: Old And In The Way Artist: Fiddlin' John Carson Recording: Okeh 40181 Date Issued: September 1924 Side: A Flipside: Okeh 40181 Date Issued: September 1924 Title: When Abraham & Iasic Rushed The Can Artist: Fiddlin' John Carson Recording Date: Unknown DT: OLD AND ONLY IN THE WAY: http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=4380 Threads: Lyr Add: OLD AND IN THE WAY: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=4755#26301 RE: Old & In the Way lyrics: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=4755#26159 RE: ADD LYR: Old And In The Way: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=2867#12948 ADD LYR: Old And In The Way: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=2867#12871 RE: Old & In the Way lyrics: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=4755#645414 Old And In The Way: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=3813#19878 an Old & In the Way song"Pig in: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=625#1709 RE: Need 3rd Verse to pig in a pen: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=3975#20994 ======================================================= |
Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest From: wysiwyg Date: 01 Oct 02 - 10:48 AM WHITE HOUSE BLUES as sung by Charlie Poole, with chords by Gary. MR. MCKINLEY as sung by Homer Brierhopper Other versions in that same thread, HERE. WHITE HOUSE BLUES as sung by John Renbourn; thread includes discussion of history, other related songs. Also see DT. ~Susan |
Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest From: wysiwyg Date: 01 Oct 02 - 09:38 AM I'm getting these all now in e-mail. I'll be starting a new, streamlined thread when I get them all tinkered up and matched with old threads. ~S~ |
Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest From: GUEST Date: 01 Oct 02 - 12:00 AM Rick, Yes, Kinney and Doug (a great flatpicker) Rorrer are related to Posey Rorer (only one r). Doug told me he was his great uncle. I don't know why the spelling is different. I'll find out more this weekend when I'm up in Eden. Gutbucketeer's post "My Wife Went Away And Left Me" was a tune Poole learned from Kelly Harrell, which was based on Charles Vann's 1889 song, "Then my Darling I'll come Back to Thee". -Richie |
Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest From: Rick Fielding Date: 30 Sep 02 - 11:30 PM Huge Charlie Poole fan here. Nobody's mentioned whether Kinney is related to Posey Rorrer Thanks for the songs. Rick |
Subject: RE: My Wife Went Away and She Left Me, C Poole From: GutBucketeer Date: 30 Sep 02 - 11:23 PM Charlie Poole 3/3 time in D D D D D |
Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest From: wysiwyg Date: 30 Sep 02 - 11:12 PM Joe, thanks, but no need to keep fixing these. We are working on them in e-mail to be posted more accurately. ~Susan |
Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest From: GutBucketeer Date: 30 Sep 02 - 10:53 PM Fantastic Richie! I have some Charlie Poole as well. I'll post My wife went away and shel left me pretty soon. There is a sight that has the lyrics to many of his songs here: Charlie Poole Lyrics Site GutBucketeer |
Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest From: wysiwyg Date: 30 Sep 02 - 09:36 PM Thanks, Richie, nice to meet you! ~Susan |
Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest From: GUEST,Richie Date: 30 Sep 02 - 09:31 PM I'm playing up in Eden (Charlie's stomping grounds)with Doug Rorrer and Doc Watson. I have Kinney's book and e-mail address. I'm planning on seeing Kinney at the concert. If there's anything you'd like me to ask him, let me know. I'm interested in Charlie Poole and his music. I'd recommend getting Kinney's book. He has all of Charlie's lyrics and a lot of info about the songs. Let me know if you need any help. I'll put a link to my web-site: Click here -Richie |
Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest From: wysiwyg Date: 30 Sep 02 - 05:36 PM I love e-mail! The above isn't right. Gary is working chords into the text like we do here sometimes, and sending them to me. I'll post them when I get them. Worth working on and waiting for! Thanks, again, Gary. In the meantime, if anyone wants to search up old threads and the DT, for any of the above, and leave me word where they are, that would be a huge help. ~Susan |
Subject: Lyr/Chords Add: BALTIMORE FIRE From: wysiwyg Date: 30 Sep 02 - 04:35 PM Here's a test. Is it looking like it should, Gary? ~Susan ========================================================== BALTIMORE FIRE Traditional It was on a silver falls by a narrow That I heard the cry I ever will remember, The fire sent and cast its burning embers On another fated city of our land. CHO: Fire, Fire, I heard the cry From every breeze that passes by, All the world was one sad cry of pity Strong men in anguish prayed, Calling loud to the Heavens for aid, While the fire in ruin was laying Fair Baltimore, the beautiful city Amid-an-awful-struggle of commotion, The-wind blew-a-gale from the ocean, Brave firemen struggled with devotion, But their efforts all proved in vain. The awful news did spread across the wire Of another sad catastrophe so dire, That Baltimore City is afire, And sinking 'neath the foe's relentless hand. ====================================================== CHORDS:
SOURCE: From New Lost City Ramblers; originally recorded by Charlie Poole. |
Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest From: wysiwyg Date: 30 Sep 02 - 04:14 PM Chord file arrived looking like the chords are fine; I'll start posting them tonight. ~Susan |
Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest From: GUEST,martoons Date: 30 Sep 02 - 04:05 PM Hey, what do you know about that! I already AM a member. martoons |
Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest From: wysiwyg Date: 30 Sep 02 - 03:40 PM Gary, If you want me to post them so the chords go where you wanted them, e-mail it to me at motormice@hotmail.com. But be sure to put the word MUDCAT in the subject line or it will not get through. ~Susan |
Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest From: wysiwyg Date: 30 Sep 02 - 03:39 PM That's OK, a Mudcat volunteer will be along to fix them, Gary. ~Susan |
Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest From: GUEST,Gary Date: 30 Sep 02 - 03:35 PM OK. I gotta figure out this line break thing. Gary |
Subject: ADD: Charlie Poole songs & chords From: GUEST,Gary Date: 30 Sep 02 - 03:34 PM Here are the songs I have chorded so far. I hope the line breaks are there this time. If not, I'll keep trying till I get it right. Old and Only in the Way Baltimore Fire Bill Mason Budded Rose Don't Let Your Deal Go Down The Girl I Loved In Sunny Tennessee Goodbye Mary Dear Goodbye Sweet Liza Jane Goodbye Booze The Highwayman Hungry Hash House I Once Loved A Sailor If I Lose, I Don't Care If The River Was Whiskey Jay Gould's Daughter Leaving Dear Old Ireland Moving Day Look Before You Leap
Hi - some of the lines in this post were too wide. To make the chord spacing work, I had to reduce the type size. I suppose some of the chords are still in the wrong places, but it's the best I could do. |
Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest From: Fortunato Date: 30 Sep 02 - 03:33 PM Guest, Gary, I'm interested as well. |
Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest From: wysiwyg Date: 30 Sep 02 - 03:28 PM Chuck, Mr. Rorrer is mentioned in the link Gary provided, and I am sure your endorsement of him is appreciated. But it's really not a good idea to put an address and phone numbers in a public forum without his permission. ~Susan |
Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest From: tar_heel Date: 30 Sep 02 - 03:06 PM you need to get in touch with KENNY RORRER of DANVILLE,VIRGINIA kenny is a local historian on charlie poole...he knows anything and everything about charlie poole...his life,music,u-name-it,and has written many books on charlie poole...if charlie poole did it,sang it,recorded it,peformed it somewhere,kenny is the one who can tell you the story about it...youi must contact kenny if you love charlie pooles music...tell kenny that chuck hemrick (aka,tarheel)gave you this information.. Address for Kenny Rorrer deleted - he can probably be contact through his family's label, Flyin' Cloud Records. I believe Rorrer is Professor Kinney Rorrer at Danville Community College. Otherwise, send a personal message to Tar Heel for info on how to contact Rorrer. -Joe Offer- |
Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest From: wysiwyg Date: 30 Sep 02 - 02:52 PM Here are Gary's items listed above, with line breaks. Catters care to help search the threads for these? Baltimore Fire Bile Dem Cabbage Down Bill Mason Budded Rose Don't Let Your Deal Go Down The Girl I Loved In Sunny Tennessee Goodbye Mary Dear Goodbye Sweet Liza Jane Goodbye Booze He Rambled The Highwayman Hungry Hash House I Once Loved A Sailor I'm The Man That Rode the Mule 'Round the World If I Lose, I Don't Care If The River Was Whiskey Jay Gould's Daughter Jealous Mary Leaving Dear Old Ireland Look Before You Leap Monkey On A String Mother's Last Farewell Kiss Movin' Day My Gypsy Girl My Wife Went Away And Left Me Old and Only in the Way One Moonlight Night Sourwood Mountain Take A Drink On Me There'll Come A Time Someday To The Sweet Sunny South Write A Letter To My Mother |
Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest From: wysiwyg Date: 30 Sep 02 - 02:44 PM WOW! Good trade Gary! We do try to post things here becasue we feel Mudcat will outlast many other sites. So if a lyric comes from somewhere else, we post it here AND cite the site where it came from. ~Susan |
Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest From: GUEST,Gary Date: 30 Sep 02 - 02:42 PM I found this URL for a host of Poole lyrics. http://world.std.com/~gdallal/charlie_poole.htm I will try and post the songs I've chorded ASAP. Gary |
Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest From: wysiwyg Date: 30 Sep 02 - 02:13 PM Gary, HONKINGDUCK. Have fun in there! *G* Don't forget to come up for air. Also please see: Mudcat Honkingduck Oldtime Project Proposal. If you join Mudcat, members who share your interests can send you personal messages ("PMs") here at Mudcat too. ~Susan |
Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest From: Jerry Rasmussen Date: 30 Sep 02 - 01:47 PM Yes, by all means post them. I am a huge Charlie Poole fan... Jerry |
Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest From: GUEST,Gary Date: 30 Sep 02 - 01:36 PM Okey Doke. No what is Honkingduck? gary |
Subject: RE: Any Charlie Poole interest From: wysiwyg Date: 30 Sep 02 - 12:46 PM Yes, very. You would do searches here by title and artist first, to be sure they are not already hiding in a thread, then post them here in this handy thread if they are not, unless you find a Charlie Poole songs thread and put more of them in there. If you have a substantially different version of a song, and it's posted in a thread, put the new version there. Change the subjkect line of each post to ADD: and then the title. GREAT! Do you know about Honkingduck? ~Susan |
Subject: Any Charlie Poole interest From: GUEST,Gary Date: 30 Sep 02 - 12:41 PM I have lyrics and some rudimentary chords for some Charlie Poole’s songs. I realize some are already in the DT, but some are not. Anyone interested in them? Shall I post them?
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