Search function haywire!

Subject: SEARCH FUNCTION HAYWIRE!
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Oct 02 - 03:17 PM

HELP! Can't find DIDDLE-Y SQUAT! whats wrong???

Subject: RE: SEARCH FUNCTION HAYWIRE!
From: MMario
Date: 08 Oct 02 - 03:19 PM

I'm not having any problems - what are you looking for and how are you looking for it?

Subject: RE: SEARCH FUNCTION HAYWIRE!
From: katlaughing
Date: 08 Oct 02 - 04:34 PM

a super search for "diddley squat" comes up with four mentions in four separate threads...:-)

Subject: RE: SEARCH FUNCTION HAYWIRE!
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 09 Oct 02 - 01:06 AM

It appears to be dependent upon which server you have logged through:

Open all four at once -in different windows - place the information in the search box and try a race.

loki.mudcat.org
mudcat.org
ragtime.mudcat.org
207.103.108.101/thread.cfm

Its fun AND educational too.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Subject: RE: SEARCH FUNCTION HAYWIRE!
From: Bill D
Date: 09 Oct 02 - 12:00 PM

I wonder where the expression "haywire" came from?

Subject: RE: SEARCH FUNCTION HAYWIRE!
From: MMario
Date: 09 Oct 02 - 12:12 PM

"Haywire is a compound of the words hay and wire, originally simply denoting wire used to bale hay or straw. The term is first recorded as a noun in a debate in the Canadian House of Commons (1917), so it is a Canadianism or, since it appeared soon thereafter in a U.S. publication, a North Americanism. We find an earlier (1905) attributive use in the phrase hay wire outfit, a term used contemptuously for poorly equipped loggers. What lies behind this term is the practice of making repairs with haywire. Haywire is found in other contexts with the general sense "makeshift, inefficient," from which come the extended senses "not functioning properly" and "crazy.""

Subject: RE: SEARCH FUNCTION HAYWIRE!
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Oct 02 - 01:01 PM

Has the search ever been anything other than "not functioning properly" and "crazy"?

Subject: RE: SEARCH FUNCTION HAYWIRE!
From: MMario
Date: 09 Oct 02 - 01:05 PM

I rarely have problems with it - and I search a LOT

Subject: RE: SEARCH FUNCTION HAYWIRE!
From: jeffp
Date: 09 Oct 02 - 01:24 PM

It's usually been effective for me as well.

Subject: RE: SEARCH FUNCTION HAYWIRE!
From: GUEST,Don
Date: 10 Oct 02 - 09:33 AM

I have often been frustrated when the search function fails to find material that I know is there. I remember seeing something about a time delay before material in threads may be found by the search function, but that does not explain all of the failures I have encountered. I have finally concluded that Mudcat, wonderful though it is as a website in general, has the world's worst (or at least the world's most inscrutable) search function.

Subject: RE: SEARCH FUNCTION HAYWIRE!
From: GutBucketeer
Date: 11 Dec 02 - 12:27 AM

I'm not getting any results from forum searches. I've tried "Jug Band" "Twin" "HearMe" and other keywords. Things that I know are there. I'm using Netscape 4.77 and don't know what I'm logged into.

JAB

Subject: RE: SEARCH FUNCTION HAYWIRE!
From: GutBucketeer
Date: 11 Dec 02 - 12:32 AM

I just tried it again using IE5.5 , for "twin" and also "folk". Neither produced any results.

JAB

Subject: RE: SEARCH FUNCTION HAYWIRE!
From: GUEST,Q
Date: 11 Dec 02 - 12:47 AM

Put jug band in the filter and you will get several threads. Set for one year. Do the same with folk.

Twin- What specifically? I use Lyric and Forum search only if I have a song title in mind.

Subject: RE: SEARCH FUNCTION HAYWIRE!
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 Dec 02 - 10:30 AM

And after the hay is all nicely and neatly baled, and stored, then there's USING it. Often the bale is broken up in the loft to be dropped down in sections ("flakes") through chutes in the floor, to the critters below. Once you snip the haywire, it goes haywire (sprongggggggg, like an autoharp string broken while playing), especially if you used it for "temporary" fencing and it was stretched REAL tight. The piled-up snipped sections snarl up the footing in all the loose hay where the bales are kept.... it becomes invisible till you find yourself flat on your face in it. 'Cuz you are busy trying to feed the critters, not focusing on picking up every last piece every time... like broken guitar/harp/banjo strings tend to get loose in your house no matter how hard you try to wind them up into a nice safe circle so no one gets hurt on 'em. Like that, see?

~Susan

Subject: RE: SEARCH FUNCTION HAYWIRE!
From: GutBucketeer
Date: 11 Dec 02 - 02:42 PM

Guest, Q:

I've been around Mudcat for a long time, and know how to use the filter, and search the forum and the DT for what I want (both simple and advanced). Your examples illustrate the problems I am having. When you use the filter topic like "jug band", or "folk" produce results. When I use the search function for the same topic nothing is found. Hech when I search for any topic nothing is found. This occurs both at work and at home, and when I'm using IE, or Netscape.

What happens when you try to search the forum (Put your search topic in the Lyrics & Knowledge Search box found in the upper left part of your screen, toggle off the DT search, and click on the Search button).

Am I the only one haveing this problem, or are others experiencing it too?


JAB

Subject: RE: SEARCH FUNCTION HAYWIRE!
From: MMario
Date: 11 Dec 02 - 02:50 PM

forum search appears to be down. I haven't gotton a result all day.

Subject: RE: SEARCH FUNCTION HAYWIRE!
From: GUEST,Q
Date: 11 Dec 02 - 03:24 PM

Yep, there is an up and down problem. When I answered Gut Bucketeer, everything (I think) was working. Now the DT is OK but no Forum results. Getting most of what I was looking for with the filter, but it is a nuisance not being sure.

Subject: RE: SEARCH FUNCTION HAYWIRE!
From: Stewie
Date: 15 Dec 02 - 05:52 PM

For many days, I haven't been able to find threads I know are there. This morning, I put 'Travelin' Man' in the search box and came up with zilch in the forum. This is a thread title and the words occur dozens of times in the thread. I was able to find it only by pulling up my postings and doing a search.

--Stewie.

Subject: RE: SEARCH FUNCTION HAYWIRE!
From: GUEST,Q
Date: 15 Dec 02 - 06:09 PM

Some of Travelin' Man (pulled by filter) at 30848: Travelin' Man

I wish someone would post here and tell us what is wrong and if it will be fixed. The filter will get some things but discussions are showing up that are duplicating previous ones.

Can a time interval be set for a search on postings?

Subject: RE: SEARCH FUNCTION HAYWIRE!
From: Jeri
Date: 15 Dec 02 - 06:36 PM

Joe reported the problem to Max in the Help Forum 3 days ago.

Subject: RE: SEARCH FUNCTION HAYWIRE!
From: Richie
Date: 16 Dec 02 - 12:08 AM

I've been having the same problem finding threads,

Richie