Lyr Req: Come Down the Mountain Katie Daly (O'Shea

Subject: Lyrics to Katy Daley
From:
Date: 01 Jun 98 - 01:14 PM

Can anyone help me with the lyrics to an Irish(?) song called Katy Daley?

Does anyone know if there is a current recording of it? Thanks.

Subject: RE: Lyrics to Katy Daley
From: Barry Finn
Date: 01 Jun 98 - 09:16 PM

Could it be the bluegrass "Katy Daley", you didn't give much to go on.

Come on down the mountain Katy Daley
Come on donw the mountain Katy do
Come on down the mountain Katy Daley
I want taste your good ol mountain dew

If so I may have it around, if not I'm sure others have it, if that's the one, otherwise Cowpie might have it. Barry

Subject: Lyr Add: KATY DALEY^^
From: Old Timer
Date: 02 Jun 98 - 11:24 AM

No Name:

Here is Katy Daley. If you like the "high, lonesome sound", check out the site listed at the end of the lyrics.

Katy Daley

With her old man, she came from Tenparary
In the pioneer days of forty-two
Her old man was shot in Tombstone City
For the making of his good old mountain dew

Chorus
Oh, come on down the mountain, Katy Daley
Come on down the mountain, Katy do
Can't you hear us callin', Katy Daley
We want to drink your good old mountain dew

Wake up and pay attention, Katy Daley
I am the judge that's gonna sentence you
All the boys in court have drunk your whiskey
And, to tell the truth, I drank a little, too

So, to the jail, they took poor Katy Daley
Very soon the gates were open wide
The agents came for poor Katy Daley
They'll take her far across the Great Divide

http://w3.mtci.ne.jp/~cotten/index.html/BGsongs.html

O.T. ^^

Subject: RE: Lyrics to Katy Daley
From: Joe Offer
Date: 02 Sep 00 - 11:55 PM

Tune, anybody? Songwriter name?
Hey, it's on the Three Tenors of Bluegrass album. I've been meaning to get that one.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Lyrics to Katy Daley
From: Anglo
Date: 03 Sep 00 - 12:21 AM

Many thanks Joe. Incredibly rapid response!
In partial answer to your question above, I found:
Come Down the Mountain Katie Daly - O'Shea, E.
listed at Jane Keefer's folk music index site, which has now moved to:
http://folkindex.mse.jhu.edu
I will eventually learn to do blue clickies I promise.

Subject: Lyr Add: KATY DALY
From: GUEST,Crazy Eddie
Date: 03 Sep 00 - 03:44 AM

Slightly different version, also a fourth verse that hasn't been mentioned.

First verse, & Chorus as previous posts.

The Judge says "pay attention, Katy Daley,
I'm sorry, that I have to sentence you,
For all the boys in court have drunk your whiskey
And, to tell the truth, dear Kate I've drunk it too.

Chorus

So off to jail they took poor Katy Daly,
But very soon the gates they opened wide:
An Angel came & took poor Katy Daly,
And brought her right across the great divide.

Chorus

Before the pearly gates there stood poor Katy,
St. Peter said "Good brewers they are few":
So step inside the gates dear Katy Daly,
And start to make your heavenly Mountain Dew"

I've always thought that to "Cross the great divide" meant to die.
If so, I think the aAngel makes more sense than the

Subject: Lyr Add: KATY DALY
From: GUEST,Philippa
Date: 03 Sep 00 - 04:27 AM

the person who started this thread referred to this as Irish song. Indeed, I first heard this song as:
Come down from the mountains, Katy Daly
Come down from the mountains, Katy do
Come down from the mountains, Katy Daly
We want to taste your Irish mountain brew

Come on down, Katy do
Give us a sup of your Irish brew
We've been dry for a week or more
Give us a drop like you did before!

I suspect, however that in this case the Irish version derived from an American one. Anyone have any further information?

Subject: Lyr/Tune Add: KATIE DALY
From: Snuffy
Date: 03 Sep 00 - 08:55 AM

I have Katie Daly (must be the Irish spelling), by the Irish group, Brier Folkgroup. It's done as a medley with The Leaving of Liverpool, so is presumably missing some verses. I guess the reference to Tipperary has led to its adoption in Ireland.

Chorus
Come down the mountain, Katie Daly
Come down from the mountain, Katy, do
Can't you hear us callin', Katie Daly
We want to drink your good old mountain dew

Now your old man, Kitty, came from Tipperary
In the pioneering year of forty-two
Your old man he was shot in Tombstone City
For the making of his Irish mountain dew

Chorus

Wake up and pay attention, Katie Daly
I am the judge that's gonna sentence you
And all them boys in court have drunk your whiskey
And, to tell the truth, dear Kitty, I drunk some, too

Here's Brier's tune (verse first, then chorus)

MIDI file: KATYDALY.MID

Timebase: 480

Tempo: 120 (500000 microsec/crotchet)
Key: G
TimeSig: 2/4 24 8
Name: Katie Daly (Katy Daley)
Start
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End

This program is worth the effort of learning it.

To download the March 10 MIDItext 98 software and get instructions on how to use it click here

ABC format:

X:1
T:Katie Daly (Katy Daley)
M:2/4
L:1/8
Q:1/4=120
S:Brier Folkgroup
D:23 Songs, Homespun CPHL517
K:G
d/d/|
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Wassail! V

Subject: Lyr Add: KATY DALEY
From: GUEST,Crazy Eddie
Date: 03 Sep 00 - 09:53 AM

Hopefully, this time with line-breaks!

Slightly different version, also a fourth verse that hasn't been mentioned.

First verse, & Chorus as previous posts.

The Judge says "pay attention, Katy Daley,
I'm sorry, that I have to sentence you,
For all the boys in court have drunk your whiskey,
And, to tell the truth, dear Kate I've drunk it too.

Chorus

So off to jail they took poor Katy Daly,
But very soon the gates they opened wide:
An Angel came & took poor Katy Daly,
And brought her right across the great divide.

Chorus

Before the pearly gates there stood poor Katy,
St. Peter said "Good brewers they are few",
So step inside the gates dear Katy Daly,
And start to make your heavenly Mountain Dew"

I've always thought that to "Cross the great divide" meant to die. If so, I think the Angel makes more sense than the "agents"- unless of course making moonshine carried a death sentance!

Subject: RE: Lyrics to Katy Daley
From: raredance
Date: 05 May 02 - 12:35 AM

Bit of trivia. Katy Daly was recorded by a Canadian folk group, The Halifax Three. Lead singer of that group was Dennis Doherty, better known for his later work with the Mamas and the Papas.

rich r

Subject: RE: Lyrics to Katy Daley
From: GUEST,Allan Dennehy
Date: 05 May 02 - 02:18 AM

The best version of Katie was released last year by 63 year old Dessie O Halloran accompanied by Sharon Shannon on "The Pound Road" Its a brilliant CD. Theres a couple of web sites on O Halloran.

Subject: RE: Lyrics to Katy Daley
From: GUEST,Showband fan
Date: 05 May 02 - 08:06 AM

This song was recorded by the late Tom Dunphy and the Royal Showband in the late sixties

Subject: RE: Lyrics to Katy Daley
From: GUEST,kevin scanlon
Date: 24 Aug 02 - 11:52 PM

if you would like to hear a version of katy daley i suggest listening to ralph stanley and the clinch mt boys live at the smithsonian. though they sing it so fast it will be tough to get the lyrics. good luck

Subject: RE: Lyrics to Katy Daley
From:
Date: 03 Dec 03 - 05:48 PM

hi there thanks for the lyrics to Katie Daly. I looked it up a long time ago and found this thread. Ive been singing it ever since . I gave the lyrics to Mary Shannon who gave them to Dessis O'Holleran. They gave a note of thanks to me for the lyrics in the album slieve.
So thank you.

Subject: RE: Lyrics to Katy Daley
From: GUEST,Corky
Date: 03 Dec 03 - 07:35 PM

I think this was the very first song recorded by an irish showband in the sixties

Subject: RE: Lyrics to Katy Daley
From: kendall
Date: 03 Dec 03 - 07:47 PM

I've only heard American bands do this one, and the name of the place where her father came from never makes any sense to me.
However, if you sing ..came from Tipparary (Ireland)
In the pioneer days of 42 (the famine in Ireland)
Then combine that with the fact that Irish moonshinners predate American moonshinners, then it does make sense.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Katy Daley / Katie Daly / etc.
From: GUEST,mm
Date: 10 Jan 07 - 09:03 AM

its katie daly not katy daly

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Katy Daley / Katie Daly / etc.
From: GUEST,Black Dog.
Date: 10 Jan 07 - 10:17 AM

Dessie O'Halloran?! He hasn't a note.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Katy Daley / Katie Daly / etc.
From: Gulliver
Date: 10 Jan 07 - 10:49 AM

Well, for someone who hasn't a note he's had a lot of success!

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Katy Daley / Katie Daly / etc.
From: GUEST,asdf
Date: 18 Apr 07 - 11:51 AM

Hi, does anyone have the lyrics for Desi O holleran Say you love me?

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Katy Daley / Katie Daly / etc.
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Apr 07 - 02:38 PM

There is a version of the song to be found on the recently released album by t'The Raineys'...a travelling family recd in 1956...
The Burren Ranger

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Katy Daley / Katie Daly / etc.
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 01:58 PM

Original spelling "Katy Daly."
Written in 1962 by Paul (Moon) Mullins, born in Frenchburg, KY. A broadcaster, he was at one time a fiddler with Stanley Brothers and other groups. He received the 2007 Ohio Heritage Fellowship Award from the Ohio Arts Council.

Found on an Irish (of course!) site:
Katy Daly Mullins

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Katy Daley / Katie Daly / etc.
From: GUEST,gary z
Date: 15 Jul 08 - 08:05 AM

man,   that KATY DALY song   really sounds good after lots of beer and a couple shots of beam,   i was listening by myself and was kicking it out (dancing) really thankful for bluegrass and my banjo.   i cant wait to get the tab for that song    its gotta be a cinch, no claw hammer either    3 finger only

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Katy Daley / Katie Daly / etc.
From: Sir Roger de Beverley
Date: 15 Jul 08 - 01:42 PM

Just found this thread.

My daughter Kathryn married a man called Daly so I'd like to hear that tune played for her.

R

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Katy Daley / Katie Daly / etc.
From: GUEST,gary z
Date: 16 Jul 08 - 11:06 AM

me again,   just wondering if someone could send an extremely simple generic version of katy daly banjo tab 1st 5 frets simplicity if not, thanks anyway   i will get it soon      gary

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Katy Daley / Katie Daly / etc.
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Jul 08 - 12:33 PM

hi my mum passed away last week and funeral is on thursday, one of her fav songs was come down the mountain katie daly, my dad played it for her alot sadly he has passed away and i cannot find the tape he had.

jacqueline reilly

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Katy Daley / Katie Daly / etc.
From: GUEST,kath4989
Date: 20 Oct 09 - 12:47 PM

Still no answer on lyrics for 'Say You Love Me'?

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Katy Daley / Katie Daly / etc.
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 20 Oct 09 - 06:01 PM

KATY DALEY

With her old man, Katy came from Tipperary,
In the pioneering year of forty-two,
Her old man he was shot in Johnstone City
For the making of his Irish mountain dew.

Come down the mountains, Katy Daley,
Come down the mountains, Katy do,
Oh can't y'hear us callin' Katy Daley,
We wanna drink y'Irish mountain dew.

Wake up an' pay attention, Katy Daley,
I am the judge that's goin' t' sentence you,
Now all the boys in court have drunk y' whiskey,
And t' tell the truth, dear Kate, I drunk it too.

And so to jail they took poor Katy Daley,
But very soon the gates were opened wide,
'Cause the angels came for poor old Katy Daley,
And took her far across that great divide.

Before the golden gates stood Katy Daley,
Saint Peter said, good brewers, they are few -
So step inside the golden gates, now Katy,
And start to brew your heavenly Mountain Dew.

By Dr Patrick C Power of Co Tipperary, Ireland. Words from Agnes Brett.

Chester Bluegrass Session wrote an additional second verse:

Katy came a-runnin' down the mountain
Swingin' in her hands a jug or two,
But the Sheriff and his boys they heard us callin'
And caught her with the good old mountain dew.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Katy Daley / Katie Daly / etc.
From: GUEST,stef
Date: 26 Jun 10 - 01:01 PM

I can tell you that Eamon O Shea was an Irish man. my great uncle to be exact. His real name was Herman Weight. Long dead but his tune will be remembered forever

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Come Down the Mountain Katie Daly (O'Shea
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 28 Jun 10 - 11:16 AM

The National Library of Ireland has the sheet music, described thus:

COME DOWN THE MOUNTAIN KATIE DALY
Author: Eamonn O'Shea
Publisher: Dublin: Glenside, 1961.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Come Down the Mountain Katie Daly (O'Shea
From: GUEST,H.Weight
Date: 31 Oct 11 - 04:18 PM

Stef you are right that it was E.o`shea and his real name was Herman Weight.I didnt know if he had any brothers and sisters so would be interested if you could let me know how you are related to him.many thanks your cousin,i think,Herman Weight`s grandson.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Come Down the Mountain Katie Daly (O'Shea
From: GUEST,H.Weight
Date: 31 Oct 11 - 04:21 PM

E-MAIL [e-mail]

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Come Down the Mountain Katie Daly (O'Shea
From: GUEST,Viragoldie
Date: 05 Dec 11 - 05:57 AM

Katie Daly was written and sung by my uncle Eamonn O'Shea , real name Herman Weight. Although his name is German, it was deemed more appropriate to use an Irish name. The name Katie Daly was based on his wife's aunt in America at the time whose name was Kay Daly.
Ray Poole
Dublin

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Come Down the Mountain Katie Daly (O'Shea
From: GUEST,Mick Moloney
Date: 26 Aug 12 - 08:59 AM

Fascinated by this latest email from Ray Poole. Ray I would love to have some back up for this. Have not been able to find out anything about Herman Weight. And when might he have written the song? Did he publish or copyright it?

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Come Down the Mountain Katie Daly (O'Shea
From: GUEST,S Maynard
Date: 01 May 13 - 08:19 PM

Eamon O' Shea or Herman Weight is my Grandfather. He has three children who are still alive, one who has an unpublished book from my Grandfather about his life and touring etc and all the original music that he wrote.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Come Down the Mountain Katie Daly (O'Shea
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Feb 16 - 05:33 PM

why not just post in notes we can all understand ?

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Come Down the Mountain Katie Daly (O'Shea
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Mar 17 - 07:54 AM

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Come Down the Mountain Katie Daly (O'Shea
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Apr 17 - 06:27 AM

I remember Eamon O Shea putting on plays in an old school in Co Roscommon. And he singing Katy Daly and telling us every night that it was recorded and would be played on the radio later in the year. We knew all the words from hearing it every night for a week.....We were so excited when we heard it in the radio. Eamon was our superstar.. I remember there were three children. Teens at the time ..Philip ,Hermand and a beautiful daughter. That must be around 1960.      From Senior citizen with happy memories

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Come Down the Mountain Katie Daly (O'Shea
From: GUEST,Herman Senior Weight
Date: 06 Jun 17 - 07:58 PM

Speaking as the son of eamon oshea (his pen name ) he was the first person to record come down the mountain katie daly on the waltons label in my opinion the best version of the song was recorded by the royal showband waterford

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Come Down the Mountain Katie Daly (O'Shea
From: GUEST,John Lynch
Date: 23 Jun 18 - 09:36 AM

Like Mick Moloney (see above), I too was fascinated by this thread and to hear from the next of kin of the song's composer.

   Tom Dunphy & The Royal Showband's version, recorded in April 1962, is generally regareded as the first Irish showband release. As per the pre-Beatles pop craze of the time, this was given a skiffle-type treatment, a la Lonnie Donegan's the Battle of New Orleans, with a spoken intro.

While this was Herman's favourite recording and I enjoyed it immensely also, mine would have to be that done by the late Dermot O'Brien & His Clubmen, included on his self-titled album from 1964. What I particularly liked about it was the break-off, as an instrumental bridge, into the tune, The Rakes of Mallow, midway through the song. This recording was also issued as the b.side of Dermot's 1966 Irish no. 1 hit, The Merry Ploughboy; in fact the single could have passed as a double a-side.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Come Down the Mountain Katie Daly (O'Shea
From: Kody1
Date: 21 May 19 - 06:04 PM

Eamon O’Shea (Herman Weight) was my Grandfather and I can confirm that he wrote and sang Come down the mountain Katie Daly and I have the original vinyl single!!

Heather