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Obit: Little John Cameron - October 2002

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Subject: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Jeri
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 10:10 AM

I don't want to start this thread, but I think it needs to be started and no one else wants to do it either. We don't want him to be gone.
I enjoyed his scrappiness and the poetry and humor 'weeyin' brought to this place.

I think ljc posted his own farewell message here in July:


Death is nothing at all
I have only slipped away into the next room
I am I and you are you
whatever we were to each other
that we still are
call me by my old familiar name
speak to me in the easy way
which you always used
put no difference in your tone
wear no forced air of solemnity or sorrow
laugh as we always laughed
at the little jokes we enjoyed together
pray smile, think of me, pray for me
Let my name be ever the household word
that it always was
Let it be spoken without effort
without the trace of a shadow in it
Life means all that it ever meant
it is the same as it ever was
there is unbroken continuity
why should I be out of mind
because I am out of sight?
I am waiting for you
somewhere very near
just around the corner
All is well


Henry Scott Holland
(1847-1918)


Many folks have posted in Bad News on ljc and 'The land o' the leal' for ljc

Search for "ljc" threads


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Alice
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 10:15 AM

Rest in peace, Johnny.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: GUEST,Mad axe murderer
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 10:18 AM

Farewell little John

Say hello to my Mum for me


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: katlaughing
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 10:26 AM

Thanks, Jeri.

Words fail me.

Fare well, ljc.

luvyakat


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 10:28 AM

I came across a lovely piece on a funeral service sheet written for a young friend of mine some time ago.

He has taken his big candle and gone away.
We can't see the light any more
but we know it is still there
Shining in another room.

I never knew John personaly but his rays of light in the often gloomy postings will certainly be missed.

Cheers

Dave the gnome


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Amos
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 10:36 AM

Go with care, Little John.

A


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: kendall
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 10:39 AM

So long Little John, there is peace on the other side of the veil.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: SharonA
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 10:42 AM

Be at rest and at peace, LJC.

Sharon


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 10:45 AM

Farewell Johnnie Barr. Little John Cameron appeared to be a stage name, and he would hint (with a wink) at a wild and crazy upbringing across the pond....said he HAD to change his name, ha ha!

Yep, we had some fine and funny times, and I'm glad we met again on Mudcat after so many years. In a few days perhaps I'll start a thread about some of John's adventures while he lived in Toronto. Things like "The haunted rooming house", "The Electric Landlady", "The revenge of the Montreal music fan", and of course "Big Kay, and the reluctant job-hunter"..........yup, he drew a bad hand this time, just as I almost did earlier this summer. Many thoughts about John whirling around at the moment, but he met my absolute main criteria for leaving a mark on this world...he was ORIGINAL, and he could laugh at himself!

Cheers John

Rick


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: catspaw49
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 10:59 AM

I've had my say on the other threads....Thanks for sharing so much of you with us and thanks for the tales twice told that ialways improved with age. We love you John....Be at peace.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Willie-O
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 11:32 AM

Aw dammit.

Bless ye.

Rick's got the right idea accordin to John's own wishes, it appears. I look forward to these unlikely tales. Don't be lettin the exact truth of things get in the way, either, Rick.

Willie-O


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 11:34 AM

Go in peace, good man.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 11:50 AM

Best of luck in the next place John.
We are fortunate that your postings remain & so we will be reminded of you as old threads are refreshed from time to time.


Kris


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: weepiper
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 11:51 AM

That's awfully sad news. LJC was always a ray of sunshine even when he was being sarcastic. What a loss to Mudcat.

I'll play the Lament For The Old Sword for him later.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Micca
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 12:00 PM

"....The Flowers of the Forest are faded away....."
Micca and Cat


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 12:04 PM

I'm a little confused. Can anyone explain the posting from LJC on the "Opus Dei" thread dated 07/15/02?
Is some tasteless hoax being perpetrated?

Seamus


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: weepiper
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 12:08 PM

His last post was on the 4th of September. I think the illness came on very quickly from what I've read in the Bad News on ljc thread.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Jimmy C
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 12:10 PM

This is terrible news. He and his humour will be sadly missed. We shared a few gigs years ago in Toronto. Rest in peace wee man.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Mooh
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 12:11 PM

"Life is eternal, love is immortal, and what we call death is only an horizon which is the limit of our sight." God be with you.

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Giac
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 12:28 PM

Good journey, Little John. Your words and humour were larger than life.

Mary


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: GUEST,Taliesn
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 01:07 PM

With all this gentle memorializing I was wondering when it would occur to some of his afficianadoes here to cut & paste
some of their favorite posts of this well-remembered soul
so that others can may enjoy what made him so memorableand so dear to y'all.

Just quote the passages of the humor & poetry of the man from whence he was among you and let his own "best" words continue to breathe life into his signature character.

I'll quote a line from dearly missed master artist Jimhensen's favorite filmwork,"The Dark Crystal" in defining what written words are: " Writing is words that stay".

I leave you with this gentle suggestion.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Amergin
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 01:10 PM

seamus my friend...it is october....

sorry to hear of his spirit passing from his body....but like i said his spirit remains in his words...and in the hearts of those who loved him...


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: sledge
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 01:13 PM

His passing robs us of his wit and wisdom that would have made so many debates that much richer.

Stuart


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: GUEST,Ard Mhacha
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 01:14 PM

I am shocked and very sad at this awful news,
I enjoyed his comments, he will be missed, there is a big gap on this Site. May he rest in peace. Ard Mhacha.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: khandu
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 01:20 PM

"So, thou hast awakened from the illusory sleep! Laugh! Dance! Breathe the majesty of the Day! Worry not of those who still sleepeth. They, too, shall awaken soon."

Peace.

ken


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Willie-O
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 01:24 PM

by the by, I am shocked to learn that he perhaps wasn't a Cameron all his life...in rereading the following posts I suddenly see that the clan characteristic, our squinty nose, was something else he acquired along the way!

W-O



Subject: RE: Willie-O mp3.com CD Now Released
From: little john cameron - PM
Date: 14 Nov 00 - 05:41 PM

Guid stuff Wullie.Ah jist had a listen an the highest praise ye can get aff a Scotsman is"No bad,son"
Ah see by yer photie ye inherited the Cameron Neb. ljc


Subject: RE: Willie-O mp3.com CD Now Released
From: little john cameron - PM
Date: 15 Nov 00 - 02:06 PM
In The Mudcat Shop: Covenant

Wullie,mah nose wisnae too bad til ah wis runnin fae the lounge tae the puplic bar,or mibbe it wis the ither way aboot,in the Covenanters Inn in Abberfoyle,an ah never noticed the gless door wis shut.Ower the years a few fowk hae been tryin tae straighten it for me at least that's whit they said.. ljc


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: katlaughing
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 01:48 PM

I did post something he'd sent me, in one of the other threads, about taking a nap during some flaming nonsense, as he called it. I know there are other favourite sayings which I will find, later, but this one was also rather significant, imo, from the PM's he and I exchanged in talking about life:

Yere richt on aboot the past lives. Ah hope this is mah last ane as a think the place is gaun doon the tubes.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: PeteBoom
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 01:53 PM

Damn. Been a few days since I came in, all happy from the Ian Anderson concert I was at last night and see this thread. Yegodsanlittlefishes. Now I'm quite down.

Of all the bad broad scots posting folks I know (here and elsewhere) ljc was the best (or worst depending on one's viewpoint).

Pete


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Lanfranc
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 02:18 PM

"He who of the Rankine sang, lies stiff and deid
And a green, grassy hollock hides his heid
Alas! alas! a devilish change indeed!"

Robert Burns

RIP ljc

Alan


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Steve in Idaho
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 03:04 PM

The candle in my window is in my heart also - Go in peace Brother

Steve


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Devilmaster
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 03:04 PM

Fair Winds and a Following Sea, John

Steve


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: GUEST,JE
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 03:09 PM

Fruitless and chance gift, my breath,
Why were you given to me,
And why were you condemned to death
By inscrutable destiny?
Who fashioned brain and eye and limb
From nothingness, and gave
My spirit an immortal dream
And knowledge of the grave?
I weep because the only sound
Is life's monotonous,
Sad, aimless, endless lull, the ground-
Swell of the universe.
~Alexander Pushkin

If you know not how to die, never trouble yourself; Nature will in a moment fully and sufficiently instruct you; she will exactly do that business for you; take you no care for it. ~Montaigne

Bodily offspring I do not leave, but mental offspring I do. Well, my books do not have to be sent to school and college and then insist on going into the Church or take to drinking or marry their mother's maid. ~Samuel Butler

But if you come, perhaps you will fill my mind only with new visions; not with yourself but with your lustres, and I shall not be able any more than now to converse with you. So I will owe to my friends this evanescent intercourse. I will receive from them not what they have, but what they are. They shall give me that which properly they cannot give me, but which emanates from them. But they shall not hold me by any relations less subtle and pure. We will meet as though we met not, and part as though we parted not. ~RW Emerson


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Morticia
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 03:10 PM

Goodbye John, I will miss you.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 04:37 PM

Well, here's a link to his picture in the Mudcat photo archives.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 04:42 PM

Two pictures - a kiltie one and a biker one.

Couldn't we get the magic translation machine to give us a Scots option? And then when we were missing him we could put the posts through it and read them the way John might have written them.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Amergin
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 04:49 PM

well mcgrath....we do have this....



scots translator


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Dharmabum
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 05:01 PM

Rest in peace John.

      DB.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Tweed
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 05:25 PM

Farewell LJC. I'm cryin'.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 05:25 PM

Here's what that Scots translator of Amergin came up with for "It was good to have known you even a little, John":

"It was mental tae huv knoon ye e'en a wee, john."


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: RolyH
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 05:27 PM

Thanks ljc


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 05:33 PM

Farewell LJC.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Bardford
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 05:39 PM

Farewell,ljc.Good company,you.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 05:59 PM

Nothing I can add except my name to the list.

LTS


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: CapriUni
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 06:53 PM

An example of Little John's artistry with the Scots tongue went far beyond the biting comment, as is shown by this poem, which he posted back in April:

The Bogle.

Coorie doon mah bairnies,lie up agin the wa, An' ah'll come in an' tell ye aboot the Bogle that ah saw.
Ah'm no' scairt o' Bogles,they dinnae frichten me, If he comes haundy tae me,ah'll punch him in the ee'.

Aye,ye're a richt wee holy terror,bit ah'm no' as brave as that,
He wis creepin ower the auld stane dyke,as quiet as a cat.
He thocht ah didnae see him for ah wis mair than fu'
bit ah smelled the awfy reek o' him as it trauchled doon his broo.

Ah tried tae turn an' rin awa,bit mah legs were frozen fast,
Mah blood ran cauld,ah couldnae move ,ah thocht ah'd breathed mah last.
His voice rang oot like a strangled dug,An' his airms were closin in,
Ah,ve got ye noo ye drunken loon,he said wi' a ghastly grin.

The past,it flashed afore mah e'en,every pint that passed mah lips,
even a braw wee single malt ah kept for special nips.
Ah'll gie it up ah cried oot lood,nae mair booze for me,
The Bogle said ye've bairnies twa,so ane mair chance ah'll gie ye.

Ah'll be waitin at the pub at nicht tae see if ye are there,
so ye better keep yer word tae me an' no' drink oney mair.
There's plenty ither loons tae grab,the world is fu' o' boozers
Gie up the drink an' then mak sure ye're no' amang the losers.

So aff he went back ower the dyke,laughin tae himsel'
Ah sobered up an' came richt hame mah story for tae tell
The Bogle gied me ane mair chance, fae noo oan ah'll be wary,
For booze an' Bogles dinnae mix,it's faur too bloody scary.

ljc

The complete thread can be found here: The Bogle.ljc

Is this in the Mudcat Songbook? If not -- it should be!!


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Marion
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 07:16 PM

Go in peace, John.

Marion


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: katlaughing
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 07:31 PM

You can still tip a few over at John's Scottish ex-pat Blether Bar and Grill; it hasn't really been up since '01, but there are some fine postings there and his initial opening about it.

kat


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: katlaughing
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 07:36 PM

And, there are many of his stories as "weeyin" at this site: Scribbler's (scroll down and on the left)


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 07:52 PM

A huge loss to Mudcat, and (I would guess) to the 3D world as well, and so soon after dear old Annraoi shuffling off. Tunes of Glory comes to mind.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Lepus Rex
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 07:56 PM

Well, damn. Sorry to hear this. He'll be missed.

---Lepus Rex


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Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 07:57 PM

It's good to think ljc doesn't have to suffer any more, and it's good to have known him as a Mudcatter, if not in 'real life'. My sympathy to all his friends and family.

What's the life of a man any more than a leaf
Man has his seasons so why should he grieve
Though all through this life we appear fine and gay
Like a leaf we must wither and soon fade away

Still my favourite song for these sad occasions.


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