Obit: Little John Cameron - October 2002

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: SINSULL
Date: 12 Oct 02 - 02:06 PM

Just adding my prayers and my tears. Goodbye, John.

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Bobert
Date: 12 Oct 02 - 01:54 PM

Danged!

Being a relative new comer, I didn't know John the way may of you did but from the feelings that I read here, I missed someone very special.

Rest in Peace, brother, and know that you touched so many hearts and, hey, that's what its all about...

Bobert

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 12 Oct 02 - 01:49 PM

This was penned earlier this year... it seems appropriate.

We gather here together, friends both old and new,
To share our songs and laughter, tell a stirring tale or two.
But time is rolling onwards, and the toll it takes is dear;
And every year there's one less voice, who will it be next year?

When first we met in company, when none the other knew,
We shared our songs and laughter, and friendships bloomed and grew.
In harmony and unison, our voices blended clear;
But every year there's one less voice, who will it be next year?

The songs we sang were old ones, songs of peace and war,
Of sailing ships and lovers' arms, the miners' life and more.
But all of them in common, were pleasing to the ear;
But every year there's one less voice, who will it be next year?

So raise your voices up boys, in memory of those now gone.
Give thanks for those who gather to carry on the song,
And keep it ringing out now, keep singing through the tears,
So every year there's one more voice, who will it be next year?

Tune: The Rose of York (My name it is McBrennan)
Sat 24 Aug 2002, for Fliss, Rod, Dave, Wally, Tony and all the others.
They aren't here but they know who they are.

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: fat B****rd
Date: 12 Oct 02 - 01:47 PM

My condolences to all his family and friends. RIP ljc.

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Sorcha
Date: 12 Oct 02 - 12:42 PM

If I send a card to the hospital, will they get it to his family? I found 6 Barr's in Newfie, but none were John/Johnny.

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 12 Oct 02 - 11:06 AM

"The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ, Moves on;"
We can still access his writing, and will remember.

RIP LJC

nigel

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: GUEST,Glen Reid
Date: 12 Oct 02 - 10:36 AM

First time I ever met Wee John was in 1968 in Rick Fieldings living room when he lived on Admiral Rd. in Toronto.He was singing a song I heard for the very first time "Ramblin' Boy" by Tom Paxton.
The last verse of the song seems almost prophetic in hindsight.

"He left us here to ramble on.
My wanderin' pal is dead and gone.
If when we die we go somewhere.
I'll bet you a dollar, he's ramblin' there"

Go in peace, old friend,
Love Glen

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Bullfrog Jones
Date: 12 Oct 02 - 09:59 AM

When the time is right I look forward to hearing the stories to add to the memory of his wonderful postings.
Nos da, LJC.

BJ

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Mike Regenstreif
Date: 12 Oct 02 - 09:52 AM

I was very sad to hear of Little John Cameron's passing. I once mentioned that I have a copy of LJC's LP called "Sit Down Mr. Music Man." He told me that he always wondered who the one person was who had it.

Mike Regenstreif

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: black walnut
Date: 12 Oct 02 - 08:57 AM

Peace.

~b.w.

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Cappuccino
Date: 12 Oct 02 - 04:46 AM

Very sorry to hear it.

- Ian B

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: GUEST,Boab
Date: 12 Oct 02 - 04:05 AM

"Mourn, ilka grove the cushat kens!
Ye hazly shaws an' briery dens!
ye burnies wimplin doon yer glens
Wi' toddlin din,
Or foaming, strang, wi' hasty stens,
Fae lin tae lin!"

   Frae Boab, compliments o' Rabbie Burns---an' ye'll no need oney translater, ljc!

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Big Mick
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 11:25 PM

Wee John Cameron got awa' an' we sre eh poorer fur it. as Ah said afair, he infected thes place wi' a joyoos sense ay irreverence an' loove ay life. It wulnae be a whieest nicht at yam fur eh lads oan eh other side ay eh veil. Enjoy heem, boyos, fur we surely huv loo'd havin' heem haur, an' will miss heem mightily. Tae those 'at loo'd heem, beevy eh wee drap, greit eh greit, an' ken 'at we sre sorry fur yer loss an' oors an aw. I think a trip tae eh brae wi' eh auld law D tae play an air is in order. tae ljc...............God be mental tae heem.

Sadly,

Mick

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: katlaughing
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 11:17 PM

Thanks, Jeri.

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: alison
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 11:11 PM

we'll miss you LJC............ see you on the other side

slainte

alison

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: GUEST,chordstrangler
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 10:20 PM

Farewell John. May God hold you warm in the palm of his hand.   M

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Chip2447
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 10:17 PM

Rest Well little John. May you find what you seek.
"Johnny I hardly knew ye."

Chip2447

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Stewie
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 09:39 PM

Vale. My condolences to his family.


No circle has been broken here
No one that stands alone
The threads of life, so lately broke
Are woven through our own (/em)

From Si Kahn 'Memorial'.

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: The Pooka
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 09:38 PM

Fare thee weel little johnny. You were the Giftie here; & thank you for all the gifts of yourself you gave us. Never will we forget you.

And there's a hand, my trusty fiere,
And gie's a hand o' thine!
And we'll tak a right guid-willie-waught,
For auld lang syne.

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: MMario
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 09:30 PM

The tune is ended but the harmonies and the echoes linger on

I doubt I will ever again bed able to see something written in dialect - of any sort- without thinking of little john.

He will be missed greatly

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Jeri
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 09:02 PM

Kat - I think you have a page of older messages bookmarked.
Try http://www.voy.com/48866/ - it seems to be going strong, and they're saying goodbye too.

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: GUEST,A country singer
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 08:52 PM

Johhnie's Scots patter was great fun, but keep an eye out for his album "Sit Down Mr. Music Man" on Boot records. It's out of print but turns up all the time in used record stores. Two other Mudcatters, Rick Fielding and Glen Reid were also on Boot Records. It was THE Canadian label for a while, and featured Liona Boyd the classical guitarist as well.

Happy trails Johnnie.

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: michaelr
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 07:57 PM

Wee john cameron has passed awa' an' Ah am huir uv a sad.

(Done with the Scots Translator linked above)

Michael

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 07:57 PM

It's good to think ljc doesn't have to suffer any more, and it's good to have known him as a Mudcatter, if not in 'real life'. My sympathy to all his friends and family.

What's the life of a man any more than a leaf
Man has his seasons so why should he grieve
Though all through this life we appear fine and gay
Like a leaf we must wither and soon fade away

Still my favourite song for these sad occasions.

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Lepus Rex
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 07:56 PM

Well, damn. Sorry to hear this. He'll be missed.

---Lepus Rex

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 07:52 PM

A huge loss to Mudcat, and (I would guess) to the 3D world as well, and so soon after dear old Annraoi shuffling off. Tunes of Glory comes to mind.

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: katlaughing
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 07:36 PM

And, there are many of his stories as "weeyin" at this site: Scribbler's (scroll down and on the left)

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: katlaughing
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 07:31 PM

You can still tip a few over at John's Scottish ex-pat Blether Bar and Grill; it hasn't really been up since '01, but there are some fine postings there and his initial opening about it.

kat

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Marion
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 07:16 PM

Go in peace, John.

Marion

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: CapriUni
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 06:53 PM

An example of Little John's artistry with the Scots tongue went far beyond the biting comment, as is shown by this poem, which he posted back in April:

The Bogle.

Coorie doon mah bairnies,lie up agin the wa, An' ah'll come in an' tell ye aboot the Bogle that ah saw.
Ah'm no' scairt o' Bogles,they dinnae frichten me, If he comes haundy tae me,ah'll punch him in the ee'.

Aye,ye're a richt wee holy terror,bit ah'm no' as brave as that,
He wis creepin ower the auld stane dyke,as quiet as a cat.
He thocht ah didnae see him for ah wis mair than fu'
bit ah smelled the awfy reek o' him as it trauchled doon his broo.

Ah tried tae turn an' rin awa,bit mah legs were frozen fast,
Mah blood ran cauld,ah couldnae move ,ah thocht ah'd breathed mah last.
His voice rang oot like a strangled dug,An' his airms were closin in,
Ah,ve got ye noo ye drunken loon,he said wi' a ghastly grin.

The past,it flashed afore mah e'en,every pint that passed mah lips,
even a braw wee single malt ah kept for special nips.
Ah'll gie it up ah cried oot lood,nae mair booze for me,
The Bogle said ye've bairnies twa,so ane mair chance ah'll gie ye.

Ah'll be waitin at the pub at nicht tae see if ye are there,
so ye better keep yer word tae me an' no' drink oney mair.
There's plenty ither loons tae grab,the world is fu' o' boozers
Gie up the drink an' then mak sure ye're no' amang the losers.

So aff he went back ower the dyke,laughin tae himsel'
Ah sobered up an' came richt hame mah story for tae tell
The Bogle gied me ane mair chance, fae noo oan ah'll be wary,
For booze an' Bogles dinnae mix,it's faur too bloody scary.

ljc

The complete thread can be found here: The Bogle.ljc

Is this in the Mudcat Songbook? If not -- it should be!!

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 05:59 PM

Nothing I can add except my name to the list.

LTS

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Bardford
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 05:39 PM

Farewell,ljc.Good company,you.

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 05:33 PM

Farewell LJC.

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: RolyH
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 05:27 PM

Thanks ljc

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 05:25 PM

Here's what that Scots translator of Amergin came up with for "It was good to have known you even a little, John":

"It was mental tae huv knoon ye e'en a wee, john."

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Tweed
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 05:25 PM

Farewell LJC. I'm cryin'.

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Dharmabum
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 05:01 PM

Rest in peace John.

      DB.

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Amergin
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 04:49 PM

well mcgrath....we do have this....



scots translator

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 04:42 PM

Two pictures - a kiltie one and a biker one.

Couldn't we get the magic translation machine to give us a Scots option? And then when we were missing him we could put the posts through it and read them the way John might have written them.

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 04:37 PM

Well, here's a link to his picture in the Mudcat photo archives.

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Morticia
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 03:10 PM

Goodbye John, I will miss you.

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: GUEST,JE
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 03:09 PM

Fruitless and chance gift, my breath,
Why were you given to me,
And why were you condemned to death
By inscrutable destiny?
Who fashioned brain and eye and limb
From nothingness, and gave
My spirit an immortal dream
And knowledge of the grave?
I weep because the only sound
Is life's monotonous,
Sad, aimless, endless lull, the ground-
Swell of the universe.
~Alexander Pushkin

If you know not how to die, never trouble yourself; Nature will in a moment fully and sufficiently instruct you; she will exactly do that business for you; take you no care for it. ~Montaigne

Bodily offspring I do not leave, but mental offspring I do. Well, my books do not have to be sent to school and college and then insist on going into the Church or take to drinking or marry their mother's maid. ~Samuel Butler

But if you come, perhaps you will fill my mind only with new visions; not with yourself but with your lustres, and I shall not be able any more than now to converse with you. So I will owe to my friends this evanescent intercourse. I will receive from them not what they have, but what they are. They shall give me that which properly they cannot give me, but which emanates from them. But they shall not hold me by any relations less subtle and pure. We will meet as though we met not, and part as though we parted not. ~RW Emerson

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Devilmaster
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 03:04 PM

Fair Winds and a Following Sea, John

Steve

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Steve in Idaho
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 03:04 PM

The candle in my window is in my heart also - Go in peace Brother

Steve

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Lanfranc
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 02:18 PM

"He who of the Rankine sang, lies stiff and deid
And a green, grassy hollock hides his heid
Alas! alas! a devilish change indeed!"

Robert Burns

RIP ljc

Alan

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: PeteBoom
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 01:53 PM

Damn. Been a few days since I came in, all happy from the Ian Anderson concert I was at last night and see this thread. Yegodsanlittlefishes. Now I'm quite down.

Of all the bad broad scots posting folks I know (here and elsewhere) ljc was the best (or worst depending on one's viewpoint).

Pete

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: katlaughing
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 01:48 PM

I did post something he'd sent me, in one of the other threads, about taking a nap during some flaming nonsense, as he called it. I know there are other favourite sayings which I will find, later, but this one was also rather significant, imo, from the PM's he and I exchanged in talking about life:

Yere richt on aboot the past lives. Ah hope this is mah last ane as a think the place is gaun doon the tubes.

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: Willie-O
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 01:24 PM

by the by, I am shocked to learn that he perhaps wasn't a Cameron all his life...in rereading the following posts I suddenly see that the clan characteristic, our squinty nose, was something else he acquired along the way!

W-O



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From: little john cameron - PM
Date: 14 Nov 00 - 05:41 PM

Guid stuff Wullie.Ah jist had a listen an the highest praise ye can get aff a Scotsman is"No bad,son"
Ah see by yer photie ye inherited the Cameron Neb. ljc


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From: little john cameron - PM
Date: 15 Nov 00 - 02:06 PM
In The Mudcat Shop: Covenant

Wullie,mah nose wisnae too bad til ah wis runnin fae the lounge tae the puplic bar,or mibbe it wis the ither way aboot,in the Covenanters Inn in Abberfoyle,an ah never noticed the gless door wis shut.Ower the years a few fowk hae been tryin tae straighten it for me at least that's whit they said.. ljc

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: khandu
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 01:20 PM

"So, thou hast awakened from the illusory sleep! Laugh! Dance! Breathe the majesty of the Day! Worry not of those who still sleepeth. They, too, shall awaken soon."

Peace.

ken

Subject: RE: Obit: Little John Cameron
From: GUEST,Ard Mhacha
Date: 11 Oct 02 - 01:14 PM

I am shocked and very sad at this awful news,
I enjoyed his comments, he will be missed, there is a big gap on this Site. May he rest in peace. Ard Mhacha.