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Why Bluegrass

GUEST,IanN 17 Oct 02 - 06:13 AM
Fingerbuster 17 Oct 02 - 06:42 AM
GUEST,Richie 17 Oct 02 - 06:47 AM
Fingerbuster 17 Oct 02 - 06:54 AM
GUEST 17 Oct 02 - 06:58 AM
Fingerbuster 17 Oct 02 - 07:03 AM
GUEST,IanN 17 Oct 02 - 07:11 AM
Fingerbuster 17 Oct 02 - 07:21 AM
GUEST,IanN 17 Oct 02 - 08:20 AM
kendall 17 Oct 02 - 08:40 AM
53 17 Oct 02 - 08:45 AM
Fingerbuster 17 Oct 02 - 09:04 AM
mack/misophist 17 Oct 02 - 09:35 AM
Gary T 17 Oct 02 - 10:09 AM
kendall 17 Oct 02 - 10:13 AM
Jim Krause 17 Oct 02 - 11:00 AM
Ron Olesko 17 Oct 02 - 11:05 AM
rangeroger 17 Oct 02 - 11:26 AM
Mark Clark 18 Oct 02 - 02:32 AM
reggie miles 18 Oct 02 - 09:27 AM
Mark Clark 18 Oct 02 - 12:26 PM
Marion 18 Oct 02 - 04:24 PM
GUEST 18 Oct 02 - 04:48 PM
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Subject: Why Bluegrass?
From: GUEST,IanN
Date: 17 Oct 02 - 06:13 AM

What are the origins of the term Bluegrass? I'm intrigued as I've never seen any blue grass!


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Subject: RE: Why Bluegrass
From: Fingerbuster
Date: 17 Oct 02 - 06:42 AM

It is just one of the best types of music, and my personal favourite. (cos i'm a banjo player)
You will have to wait until our American friends come on line for the definitive answer. Something to do with a type of grass indigenous to Kentucky methinks.
Nic.


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Subject: RE: Why Bluegrass
From: GUEST,Richie
Date: 17 Oct 02 - 06:47 AM

Here's some info:

Kentucky blue grass, a species of grass (Poa pratensis) which has running rootstocks and spreads rapidly. It is valuable as a pasture grass, as it endures both winter and drought better than other kinds, and is very nutritious.

Bluegrass is not really blue--it's green--but in the spring, bluegrass produces bluish-purple buds that when seen in large fields give a rich blue cast to the grass. Early pioneers found bluegrass growing on Kentucky's rich limestone soil, and traders began asking for the seed of the "blue grass from Kentucky." The name stuck and today Kentucky is known as the "Bluegrass State". Kentucky (Plain); June 1, 1792, Blue Grass State

By the 1920s Bill Monroe had settled on the mandolin as his instrument. After performing first with Birch and Charlie, then as a duet with Charlie, he formed his own band in 1938. Later that year in Atlanta he organized the first Blue Grass Boys--named in honor of his home state--a trio with guitar, fiddle, and mandolin.

-Richie


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Subject: RE: Why Bluegrass
From: Fingerbuster
Date: 17 Oct 02 - 06:54 AM

Nice one Richie.


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Subject: RE: Why Bluegrass
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Oct 02 - 06:58 AM

I thankyou! Another fascinating fact I'll be able to bore "non-believers" rigid with!

A bit like the Blue Mountains of New South Wales then. The Eucalyptus oil produces a bluey haze that hangs over the mountains - hence the name.

Dave Swarbrick wrote a tune in thier honour "My heart belongs in New South Wales".


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Subject: RE: Why Bluegrass
From: Fingerbuster
Date: 17 Oct 02 - 07:03 AM

Guest, any jobs for pickers down your way? your description sounds idyllic!


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Subject: RE: Why Bluegrass
From: GUEST,IanN
Date: 17 Oct 02 - 07:11 AM

I'm actually from Middlewich, Cheshire, UK
Which is indeed idyllic but perhaps not quite as much as New South Wales!!!
We do have a great local music scene though which includes one or two Banjo players.


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Subject: RE: Why Bluegrass
From: Fingerbuster
Date: 17 Oct 02 - 07:21 AM

Curses! does this mean the only jobs are in the salt mines?
ps where is the venue for your pick?


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Subject: RE: Why Bluegrass
From: GUEST,IanN
Date: 17 Oct 02 - 08:20 AM

We've no mines left!! (well there is one in nearby Northwich). We have to make do with the Morrison's Depot!

Boars Head 2nd Saturday of the month.

See you there?


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Subject: RE: Why Bluegrass
From: kendall
Date: 17 Oct 02 - 08:40 AM

Monroe took the old time songs and music, and, did them a different way. In the old time string band all instruments played in unison all the way through. In Monroe style, each instrument took a "break" in which that instrument was featured as the main focus. Makes it sound different, although not necessarily better. Matter of preference.


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Subject: RE: Why Bluegrass
From: 53
Date: 17 Oct 02 - 08:45 AM

I wish that I could play the banjo.


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Subject: RE: Why Bluegrass
From: Fingerbuster
Date: 17 Oct 02 - 09:04 AM

53, there is no time like the present to start:-}


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Subject: RE: Why Bluegrass
From: mack/misophist
Date: 17 Oct 02 - 09:35 AM

The question was whence 'bluegrass'? Since I saw no mention of Bill Monroe and His Blue Grass Ramblers (I think) I'll just say that.


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Subject: RE: Why Bluegrass
From: Gary T
Date: 17 Oct 02 - 10:09 AM

The question was whence 'bluegrass'? Since I saw no mention of Bill Monroe and His Blue Grass Ramblers (I think) I'll just say that.

Can't say I'd heard of the Blue Grass Ramblers, but to state the final thought in Richie's presentation, the style of music played by Bill Monroe and his Blue Grass Boys became known as bluegrass music.


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Subject: RE: Why Bluegrass
From: kendall
Date: 17 Oct 02 - 10:13 AM

Simply because he came from Kentucky, the Bluegrass state.


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Subject: RE: Why Bluegrass
From: Jim Krause
Date: 17 Oct 02 - 11:00 AM

At the risk of repeating the answer given in a thread above which I havent't read, the term Bluegrass came from Bill Monroe's Blue Grass Boys. Monroe came from Kentucky which is nicnamed "the Blue Grass State." The area of Kentucky around Lexington and Frankfort is known as the bluegrass region, as separate and distinct geologically from the Appalachian area.

And incidentally, there is a sort of lawn grass grown in certain areas of the USA known as bluegrass. It isn't blue at all. I don't for the life of me know why this sort of grass got that name.

Well that's my little bit.

Jim


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Subject: RE: Why Bluegrass
From: Ron Olesko
Date: 17 Oct 02 - 11:05 AM

Read above Jim and you will discover why!


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Subject: RE: Why Bluegrass
From: rangeroger
Date: 17 Oct 02 - 11:26 AM

The following quote is from "How Bluegrass Music Destroyed my Life: Stories by John Fahey"

"If you are ever somewhere and you hear some maniac playing minor thirds on a mandolin against an E-Major chord on guitar - RUN! It's bad ecology, man. Go find somebody who has records of people playing major thirds on a piano or something. That's not a dangerous instrument. Not like the mandolin. No. Never. Mandolins and banjos are evil. I was right all the time. Bluegrass music is the music of PAN."

Also, 85% of the bluegrass seed grown in America is produced in North Idaho.That is changing,however, as more people protest the farmers pratice of burning the fields in the summer to produce a larger harvest.

When you are talking of thousands of acres of fields, that is a lot of smoke.

rr


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Subject: RE: Why Bluegrass
From: Mark Clark
Date: 18 Oct 02 - 02:32 AM

I remain a little confused by the various uses in this thread of the words bluegrass and blue grass.

I believe the single word bluegrass only properly refers to the style of accoustic country music created by Bill Monroe, et al. Any other reference—whether Kentucky's nickname, the name of a plant, or the name of Monroe's band—is properly spelled as two separate words, Blue Grass.

      - Mark


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Subject: RE: Why Bluegrass
From: reggie miles
Date: 18 Oct 02 - 09:27 AM

Mark, MarkMark, Mark Mark, is there a right and wrong way of refering to the term? It was an invention, and given the application of the folk process I think you'll find derivations that may be even more cornfusin' but I think it's safe to say that what is being refered to is understood just the same. But hey, don't take my word fer it. I ain't got no edjeekashun. You say bluegrass and I say blue grass. You say tamater and I say don't hurl that rotton thing in my direction.


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Subject: RE: Why Bluegrass
From: Mark Clark
Date: 18 Oct 02 - 12:26 PM

Quite right, Reggie, although you do sound like a dog with a cleft palate. <g> I knew I was being overly pedantic and, in fact, I don't reaally care which configuration people use to refer to the music. The other uses, however, aren't the result of popular culture or any folk process. Kentucky is the Blue Grass state, not the bluegrass state. If I want to seed my lawn, I'll buy Marion blue grass... well, I might buy a little tall fescue as well. And of course Monroe's band was called the Blue Grass Boys after his home state.

      - MarkMark


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Subject: RE: Why Bluegrass
From: Marion
Date: 18 Oct 02 - 04:24 PM

What am I supposed to do with a bunch of grass seed, Mark? I don't have a lawn. Buy me some postage stamps and blank cassettes instead.

Marion


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Subject: RE: Why Bluegrass
From: GUEST
Date: 18 Oct 02 - 04:48 PM

Mark,

(...dog with cleft a palate) LOL!

While some fans of the music may dispute that reference to the state, given the popularity of that form of pickin' these days. There are, no doubt, an equal number, if not more, who value that lawn stuff, your point is well taken. It would be quite an honor to Bill and his music to have the state reference changed to the Bluegrass State. Maybe someone should suggest it. Let's start a petition drive, or call a few state representatives, or maybe donate some royalties to the cause, oil the wheels of progress. Well considering that the squeeky wheel gets the grease, we should probably start squeekin'. Could it bring added prosperity to region, more music festivals, more work for starving musicians and tourist dollars. I'm sure there may be some way to even combine the ideas. Have the festival musicians perform on actual blue grass instead of a stage, or stages covered in blue grass. Just a rambling thought. Never mind. *BG*


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