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Subject: RE: Info request - John Axons Engine
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 31 Oct 02 - 06:42 AM

G'day Wolfgang,

I guess I'm going to have to sort out the economics of getting a copy of The Essential Ewan MacColl Songbook out ot this side of the world!m It does sound as if the "thematic" ballads are in the new book.

It had been my intention to indicate the different 'ballads' ... and I would agree that there are three different ones ... by typographic differences - but my html is a bit dodgy at the best of times ... and, in the is case, I maintain that the first error I detected (using the new preview facility) - and corrected ... just refused to come right!

If you are interested - and you PM me a private e-mail address - I will send an MS Word (or, safer perhaps) an RTF file of the properly formatted text ... as I hear it. This will be more helpful than the flawed html version on the 'cat.

Regards,

Bob Bolton


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Subject: RE: Info request - John Axons Engine
From: Wolfgang
Date: 30 Oct 02 - 01:14 PM

I had a great evening yesterday listening to this radio ballad with the transcript in my hands.

I could not have done something remotely similar, Bob, but nevertheless I'll try to fill some of your ??. It is always easier to start from such a great work and to try to improve.

In the new MacColl songbook three ballads from 'John Axon' are listed as missing in the songbook:
The ballad of John Axon
Runaway train
Train journey

The first is the title ballad which runs through the radio ballad from the first to the last track. In Bob's transcription, for instance, the first two verses and the last verse belong to this ballad.

There is no real indication on the CD, where 'Runaway train' is. I think this ballad is on track 12, in the transcription above all the six verses from
The engine had reached the distant signal,
When the broken steam pipe began to scream.
to

For I've got to see the journey through, brave boy,
I've got to see the journey through.


My guess for 'Train journey' is track 7, in the transcript immediately after 'Song of leisure time' from

The repair was done and the train made up ,
When they left (in) Buxton Siding,
to

And he thought of his early courting days,
The days when he went hiking.
immediately before the 'Manchester Rambler'

The 'Oh, Johnny' verses scattered through the CD seem like another song to me, but the songbook doesn't mention them.

Now my guesses:

- immediately after the Manchester Rambler: John Axon smiled at the though that later he'd be celebrating...
- after 'power from coal, power from water': The restless steam (?) watches the tired metal...
- couple of verses later: or this will be *our* dying day, me boys, this will be *our* dying day...
- it's hell on the plate, it's a funeral *freight* (?), Oh Johnny...
- Was I born for this - to hang like a fly on a iron wall,
Helpless - on a moving wall
To die - to end -
In a welter of blood and oil
Twisted metal *splintered* (?) coal

- Curse the boiler pressure, curse the burning coal the made it -
The fire and the air that fed it -
Curse the water that boiled and turned to steam.
Curse the steam brake and the nut *which connects with* (???) the steam brake pipe
Curse the brass of the steam brake valve
Curse the nut of the steam brake valve
Curse the steam


Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: Info request - John Axons Engine
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 28 Oct 02 - 07:20 AM

G'day Wolfgang,

Well ... It was good the the soul!

I think I just fell under the spell of the wonderful way that Ewan McColl had woven together so many disparate strands into such a compelling narrative. I wish I could construct something so well!

I did miss a few words ... I'm a long way from people with those regional accents - but I have worked with a lot of English construction workers (back in the '60s) ... and occasionally had to do translation duties between two English from different areas!

I hope it all is helpful - I would really like a total transcription, too - but I hope someone else does it.

Regards,

Bob Bolton


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Subject: RE: Info request - John Axons Engine
From: Wolfgang
Date: 28 Oct 02 - 06:06 AM

Bob,

many many thanks from me. I had tried yesterday transcribing a bit but it was very hard for me and I stopped short of anything reliable. You must have loved doing it (at least a bit) for you have done much more than I could have expected realistically. Thanks again.

All the beautiful radio ballads CDs come without a libretto and that's a pity for quite often even the spoken bits from those interviewed are difficult to understand due to the accents. On the other hand, at least for me, rehearing the ballads is always a new experience for each time I understand a bit more.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: Info request - John Axons Engine
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 25 Oct 02 - 11:21 PM

G'day Gareth,

Thanks!

Now, if someone better at the intricacies of Mudcat HTML could work out why one (apparently valid) "italics off" doesn't switch ... it might make more sense.

Anyway, you can see why I was hoping for a scan from a printed source!

Regard(les)s,

Bob Bolton


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Subject: RE: Info request - John Axons Engine
From: Gareth
Date: 25 Oct 02 - 01:55 PM

Bob - Well done.

Gareth


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE BALLAD OF JOHN AXON (Ewan MacColl)
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 25 Oct 02 - 10:11 AM

G'day again,

Err ... could some joeclone see why the cancellation of italics at the end of the second last sentence of the second paragraph refuses to work!) Bob Bolton (despairing after five attempts to fix it!)

Hmm ... when I said I'd go through the CD and take down the elements of the song - what you might call the essential Ballad of John Axon ... I didn't really remember all the complexity of Ewan MacColl's crafting of different songs into a changing, dramatic ballad.

I have tried to just take down the "ballad" itself - but it is inextricably woven into the story, the actuality, the other songs (that are in my old Ewan MacColl - Peggy Seeger Songbook). I have a few pages of song lyrics - I have tried to indicate changes of tune by typography - plain text for the opening tune ... as well as a third "bluesy" tune in 6-line format. The second tune (short line format) is indicated by simple italics. Another tune is indicated by the combined bold and italic font. Simple bold font represents spoken, verse-form, text.

I'm afraid I have not caught every name and phrase - partly lack of knowledge of local geography ... and ditto local pronunciations. I hope someone closer to the ground in question can fill in the (??) gaps.

Good luck (and I get to see if 'automatic line breaks' really works!).

THE BALLAD OF JOHN AXON
(Ewan MacColl)

John Axon was a railway man, to steam trains born and bred,
He was an engine driver at Edgely Loco Shed,
For forty years he followed and served the iron way;
He lost his life upon the track, one February day.

The year was 1957, the morning bright and gay,
On the ninth of February, John Axon drove away,
In a class eight locomotive from Buxton he did go,
On the road to Chapel on le Frith, his steam brake pipe did blow

(Song of the Iron Road)

It's a seven mile drop from Penninton Top, Oh Johnny
It's 1 in 58 - and you've no steam brake, Oh Johnny
She's picking up speed and the power is freed,
It's a prayer you need, but you'll never make it Johnny.

It's hell on the plate, it's a funeral rate, Oh Johnny
It's the end of a dream, in steel and steam, Oh Johnny,
There's a whirl in your head and you're due at the shed,
And there's life ahead, but you'll never see it Johnny.


It was four AM that Saturday, John Axon left his bed.
At five he drew his time card, at Edgely Loco Shed
Just after six Ron Scanlon, his fireman, cried "Away!"
It was a day no different, from any other day

The rain was gently falling when they started down the line,
And on the way to Buxton, the sun began to shine,
But the steam brake pipe was leaking and a wisp of steam did rise,
The fireman he reported this when in Buxton they arrived.

(Song of Leisure time)

The repair was done and the train made up ,
When they left (in) Buxton Siding,
And the time was just eleven five
And the sun it was a-shining.

Four eight one double eight was her number,
And Scanlon was the fireman,
And the guard in the van was Alfred Ball,
And the driver was John Axon

Her waggons numbered thirty three
And a twenty ton rear brake van,
She was carrying coke, wood, pulp and coal
And firebricks and pig iron.

The down line out of Buxton Plant,
She was pulling nice and steady
And the bank engine was pushing behind
And the guard's brake stick was ready.

John Axon looked at the rolling hills
And he found them to his liking,
And he thought of his early courting days,
The days when he went hiking.

(Manchester Ramber

John Axon smiled at the (??)
That he'd be celebrating
And he smiled as he though of the Stockport pub
Where a pint of mild was waiting.

John Axon was a dancing man,
On his pins he was light and nimble,
And often he'd stand on the old footplate,
Whistling an old time jungle.

(The Fireman's Not for Me)

John Axon kept a little book,
And in it there was written,
The class, the type and the number of ev'ry
Engine he driven.

The joint of the driver's steam brake pipe
Had begun to sweat a little.
By the time they were halfway over (the) hill
It was coming in a steady trickle.

(Quote from Report)

A hundred and twenty five tons of engine'
Six hundred and fifty tons behind,
And the boiler pressure: two twenty five pounds per square inch
... And the men - two fragile bodies.
Flesh and blood and brittle bone
Carbon and water - nerves and dreams,

Power from coal; Power from water
Power imprisoned in a one and one eighth pipe.

(??) the seam, watches the tired metal
Explodes the worn thread,
Watching, watching; every turn of the four foot wheels;
Every lunge of the smooth armed piston;
Every thrust in the two great cylinders,
Weakens the joint's resistance.
And the brake lines crumble,
The pipe is parted ...
It blows!


The engine had reached the distant signal,
When the broken steam pipe began to scream.
John Axon and his mate,
Couldn't reach the driver's brake
For the cab was full of scalding steam, poor boys,
The cab was full of scalding steam

John Axon he knew, that his regulator,
Was still wide open and on full power.
He couldn't turn it off
For the way that it was blocked
And the cab was full of scalding steam, poor boys,
The cab was full of scalding steam

They hung on the side and they both took turns,
At shifting the regulator from afar
They prodded at the bar,
With the pricker and the guards
But they couldn't move the iron bar, brave boys,
But they couldn't move the iron bar.

John Axon, he got to the fireman's side,
And over the scream of the steam did say:
"We'll have to get outside if we want to stay alive -
Or this will be a dying day, poor boys,
This will be a dying day.

The guard he was waiting to pin down the brakes,
The train, it didn't slow down that day,
He stood there in the van,
With the brake stick in his hand,
And he knew she was a runaway, poor boy,
He knew she was a runaway.

John Axon he cried to his fireman: "Jump!
It is the only thing you can do -
While I hang on the side -
And I'll take a little ride,
For I've got to see the journey through, brave boy,
I've got to see the journey through.

John Axon, he was all alone, there on the engine's side
The train it reached the hilltop and begun the downhill ride.
The sun it was still shining, the sky was still as blue
He gambled with his life that day - and this John Axon knew.

You're on your own mate - king of the footplate ... (Sad reprise of Song of the Iron Road)

Oh Johnny, Oh me Johnny,
What makes you do the things you do, me Johnny?
Oh, why do you have to see it through, me Johnny?
Oh, Oh Oh, Oh .. Johnny.

It's a seven mile drop from Penninton Top, Oh Johnny
It's 1 in 58 - and you've no steam brake, Oh Johnny
She's picking up speed and the power is freed,
It's a prayer you need, but you'll never make it Johnny.

Every yard of the track says you won't come back, Oh Johnny!
She's a fist of steel, every turn of the wheels cries: "Johnny!"
There isn't a chance you'll get to your dance,
You can see at a glance that you'll never make it, Johnny!

There's the tunnel ahead, you've got to cover your head, Oh, Johnny!
Doing sixty an hour and she's gaining power, Oh, Johnny!
Watch out for the wall, can't you (??),
In the smoky fall (?), or you'll never make it Johnny

It's hell on the plate, it's a funeral rate, Oh Johnny
It's the end of a dream, in steel and steam, Oh Johnny,
There's a whirl in your head and you're due at the shed,
And there's life ahead, but you'll never see it Johnny.


All alone now, Ron's gone.
On me own now, all the way, all the way,
If I make it, Alf has all the way,
There's a gradient all the way into (waley?)

Seven mile gradient,

One in Seventy, one in sixty,
One in fifty eight ... eight!
??? past - going too fast,
As he hit this (horny???)
Hanging outside the cab

Down the curving line
Though the hill of ironstone
He tumbles ! (????)

... Every turn of the four foot wheels;
Every lunge of the smooth armed piston;
Every thrust of the two great cylinders:
Sings of a man's destruction,



Was I born for this - to hang like a fly on a iron wall,
Helpless - on a moving wall
To die - to end -
In a welter of blood and oil
Twisted metal ??? and coal

What was it that Jim said?
One day in the shed, jim said
- Or was it in the pub?
What was it that Jim said?
About steam, about power?


(" ... With a steam locomotive, you create the power, you maintain the power ... and you control the power.")

Curse the power!

Curse the boiler pressure, curse the burning coal the made it -
The fire and the air that fed it -
Curse the water that boiled and turned to steam.
Curse the steam brake and the nut braced (??) against the steam brake pipe
Curse the brass of the steam brake valve
Curse the nut of the steam brake valve
Curse the steam

The run it is finished, the shift's nearly ended.
So long, mates, so long, remember:
A man is a man, he must do what he can
For his brothers

By his deeds you shall know him,
By the work of his hands,
By the friends who will mourn him
By the love that he bore
By the gift of his courage
And the life that he gave.


John Axon was a railway man, to steam trains born and bred,
He was an engine driver at Edgely Loco Shed,
He was a man of courage and served the iron way;
He gave his life upon the track, one February day.

I hope this makes sense to someone!

Regards,

Bob Bolton


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Subject: RE: Info request - John Axons Engine
From: Wolfgang
Date: 23 Oct 02 - 08:43 AM

Don't bother, Bob. If soemone would have had it at hand, it would have been fine. As for a transcription I can give it a try myself.

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: Info request - John Axons Engine
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 23 Oct 02 - 08:34 AM

G'day DesertDancer (aka Becky in tucson),

Thanks - I did, indeed, mean "The Essential Ewan MacColl Songbook" ... it was rather late here and I had just had some nasty eye examinations ... so I did not trust my typing even as far as usual!

I have not yet listened to the CD of The Ballad of John Axon, but I seem to remember the "John Axon" song as being a recurring series of single verses - a sort of radiophonic "Greek Chorus", underlining the developing story. I'm not too sure that it was ever intended to be a 'free-standing' song. (So ... I should sit down and listen right through it ... shouldn't I?)

Regards,

Bob Bolton


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Subject: RE: Info request - John Axons Engine
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 23 Oct 02 - 02:28 AM

Sorry, if by the "new big book" you mean "The Essential Ewan MacColl Songbook", it's not in there either. (Fantastic book, though.)

~ Becky in Tucson


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Subject: RE: Info request - john Axons Engine
From: Greyeyes
Date: 22 Oct 02 - 08:51 AM

Gareth, I put 'john axon locomotive' into Google , it was the fourth hit.


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Subject: RE: Info request - john Axons Engine
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 22 Oct 02 - 08:33 AM

G'day Wolfgang,

I see that they are not in my copy of the Ewan McColl Songbook ... nor in the liner notes, either to the CD or the LP. Perhaps they are in the new, big Ewan McColl book that I have not yet seen (or afforded!).

Does anyone have the new book yet?

Reagrds,

Bob Bolton (Too late at night to considered playing the CD and typing up the words!)


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Subject: RE: Info request - john Axons Engine
From: GUEST,Wolfgang
Date: 22 Oct 02 - 05:25 AM

Has someone the lyrics to the title song "The ballad of John Axon"?

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: Info request - john Axons Engine
From: Gareth
Date: 21 Oct 02 - 04:34 PM

Sorry try again - Definitive Shed Codes here

Gareth


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Subject: RE: Info request - john Axons Engine
From: Gareth
Date: 21 Oct 02 - 04:32 PM

Definitive Shed Codes HERE

Gareth


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Subject: RE: Info request - john Axons Engine
From: Snuffy
Date: 21 Oct 02 - 09:49 AM

Warrington (Dallam) was 8B, and the train was going to Warrington (Arpley). But I thought Axon was an Edgeley man. Did Edgeley crews take over Warrington engines from Stockport to Buxton and back?


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Subject: RE: Info request - john Axons Engine
From: Snuffy
Date: 20 Oct 02 - 06:40 PM

I thought 5B was Crewe South


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Subject: RE: Info request - john Axons Engine
From: GUEST,Richard, Penrith
Date: 20 Oct 02 - 06:13 PM

"Red for Danger" by L.T.C. Rolt confirms that Stanier 8F 2-8-0 no.48188 was the locomotive involved in the Chapel-en-le-Frith accident on February 9th 1957. According to my 1959 Ian Allan ABC it was shedded at 5B Warrington That year therefore must have been repaired.


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Subject: RE: Info request - john Axons Engine
From: Gareth
Date: 20 Oct 02 - 09:13 AM

There is now a modern loco named after Johm Axon

Home shed Hull ?

Gareth


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Subject: RE: Info request - john Axons Engine
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 20 Oct 02 - 06:06 AM

There is now a modern loco named after Johm Axon.


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Subject: RE: Info request - john Axons Engine
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 19 Oct 02 - 11:38 AM

I have a tape made from the radio of the Ballad of John Axon. Copy available on request.
Giok


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Subject: RE: Info request - john Axons Engine
From: Llanfair
Date: 19 Oct 02 - 09:49 AM

Gareth, If you PM your address, Icould send you a copy....CD OK?

Cheers, Bron.


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Subject: RE: Info request - john Axons Engine
From: Mr Red
Date: 19 Oct 02 - 08:21 AM

Hey you anoraks - I think the words were sought not the whistle!!!


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Subject: RE: Info request - john Axons Engine
From: Gareth
Date: 19 Oct 02 - 08:09 AM

Gryeyes - Thanks. Could I ask how you found this site ?

Gareth


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Subject: RE: Info request - john Axons Engine
From: Greyeyes
Date: 19 Oct 02 - 07:59 AM

This site indicates that your memory is correct.


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Subject: RE: Info request - john Axons Engine
From: Gareth
Date: 19 Oct 02 - 03:24 AM

My early1963 Ian Allen shows here still in service Snuffy, but don't forget that CMEE fiction of the technical rebuild. i.e. assemble a collection of spare parts, and screw the old number plate on to the side. More used pre Nationalisation as the write off of a Loco meant a charge to the Capital Account, whereas a technical rebuild went on the Maintenance Account..

But good research. And don't forget John Axon was hanging on the side of the cab - no protection when she hit, no indication of the amount of damage to the structure of the loco.

Another thought though, 1957 8F - less than 20 years old - very much a modern standardish loco, yes I think she would have been 'repaired'. It was unusual to write off a valuable loco unless the frames were twisted. The 8F's saw steam out in August 1968 ( End of Steam on normal British Railways services)

Gareth

"The Kings and Castles now depart,
The Halls in ruins lie"


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Subject: RE: Info request - john Axons Engine
From: Snuffy
Date: 18 Oct 02 - 07:08 PM

According to my 1961 Ian Allen BR Locos, 48188 was still in service then. I've always assumed that Axon's loco was a write-off, but I could be wrong.

WassaiL! V


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Subject: Info request - john Axons Engine
From: Gareth
Date: 18 Oct 02 - 06:49 PM

Sorry Folks - I've tried the "Anorak" sites and no go.

"The Ballard of John Axon" - One of McColls Radio Ballards.

I'am afraid my tape of this got stolen from my car a year or so ago. What was the Number of the Locomotive that ran away down the bank from Buxton. My memory says 48188, its mentioned in the song, but without the tape I can not check this, and I am afraid that whilst purchasing the CD's is on my list of priorities it is not yet at the top of the list - yet. Can any catter recall, or listen to the CD or Vinyl and pick the number out.

No problem with the class - thats in most of the relavent "Rail Fan" sites - An Ex LM&SR Stanier Class 8F Heavy Freight Loco (Black 8)

Can anybody help ?? - Please ??

Gareth


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