Help: Need (blank) fret diagram to copy

Subject: Help: Need (blank) fret diagram to copy
From: Genie
Date: 26 Oct 02 - 03:06 PM

Since I haven't got my music composition software up and running yet, I need to find a blank guitar fret diagram, the kind used for showing chords, that I can copy and paste into a MS Word document.

Anyone know where I can find one? (I'm afraid doing a cold search for it on the net would be like looking for a needle in a haystack.)

Thanks,

Genie

Subject: RE: Help: Need (blank) fret diagram to copy
From: Bill D
Date: 26 Oct 02 - 05:00 PM

I saw one...just the other day...hmmm...let me go look!

Subject: RE: Help: Need (blank) fret diagram to copy
From: Justa Picker
Date: 26 Oct 02 - 05:06 PM

Click

Subject: RE: Help: Need (blank) fret diagram to copy
From: Leadfingers
Date: 26 Oct 02 - 05:08 PM

All it needs is a ruler and a sheet of A4 paper Or am I being too simplistic?

Subject: RE: Help: Need (blank) fret diagram to copy
From: Bill D
Date: 26 Oct 02 - 05:11 PM

see if any of these will help..

http://www.ultimatemusicians.com/download.php

http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/Lagoon/3600/pers/music.html

no..wait...here is what I think you want...http://guitar.about.com/library/qchordpaper.htm

(it was on this page

(the basic search was "blank guitar tab" in Google....)

Subject: RE: Help: Need (blank) fret diagram to copy
From: Bill D
Date: 26 Oct 02 - 05:13 PM

ha, ha...mine has MORE than yours Justa Picker...*grin*......
(do I win a prize?)

Subject: RE: Help: Need (blank) fret diagram to copy
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Oct 02 - 05:20 PM

Jeez, Genie,

If drawing a simple box is beyond you, maybe you should enrol in a beginners MS Word course?

Subject: RE: Help: Need (blank) fret diagram to copy
From: Bill D
Date: 26 Oct 02 - 05:25 PM

"maybe you should enrol .."

maybe YOU should get a spell checker that can spell "enroll", troll.

Subject: RE: Help: Need (blank) fret diagram to copy
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Oct 02 - 05:29 PM

Maybe you should look in a dictionary and check how 'enrol' is most commonly and correctly spelt, Bill...

Subject: RE: Help: Need (blank) fret diagram to copy
From: Bill D
Date: 26 Oct 02 - 05:37 PM

well, that identifies your general location...'enrol' is a Brit/Aussie spelling...so I guess all you REALLY need is a book on manners,

Subject: RE: Help: Need (blank) fret diagram to copy
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Oct 02 - 05:51 PM

I'm sorry, but is suggesting that someone, who obviously doesn't understand the very basic functions of a simple program, should perhaps take a course, being rude?

I thought that it was good and helpful advice.

Subject: RE: Help: Need (blank) fret diagram to copy
From: Bill D
Date: 26 Oct 02 - 05:56 PM

yes...it is rude. If you don't see why, long explanations would be wasted.

Subject: RE: Help: Need (blank) fret diagram to copy
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Oct 02 - 06:03 PM

ok, but the advice remains good

Subject: RE: Help: Need (blank) fret diagram to copy
From: Genie
Date: 26 Oct 02 - 09:19 PM

Now, boys, don't fight. (Bill, is it a surprise that folks who like to throw pebbles at passersby like to hide when they do it?)

As to whether I can draw or use MS Word, that has nothing to do with this thread. Just looking to do something the quick and easy way, instead of reinventing the wheel, in the event that these diagrams are readily available on the web.

(FWIW, I think trying to draw with MS Word is an exercise in frustration and tedium. If I had a scanner, I probably would scan one or draw one and scan it -- but I don't. When I get the time, I'd rather learn to use Band In A Box or Overture, for doing musical stuff.)

Bill D and JP, thanks for the images, but I was not able to copy them and paste them into a Word document. Let's try Acrobat reader or some other program and see if that works.

Thanks,

Genie

Subject: RE: Help: Need (blank) fret diagram to copy
From: Genie
Date: 26 Oct 02 - 09:44 PM

No luck with Word or Acrobat. If anyone knows what program will allow the copy and paste function, please let me know.

Genie

Subject: RE: Help: Need (blank) fret diagram to copy
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 26 Oct 02 - 10:02 PM

Genie

Try copying the diagram into Paint (the free graphics thing that comes with Windows), add the dots, X's, fret numbers and chord names there, copy it again and paste it to Word.

Bruce

Subject: RE: Help: Need (blank) fret diagram to copy
From: Bill D
Date: 26 Oct 02 - 10:11 PM

can you do a screen capture? (print screen?) Or, just doing a 'print' of that page might give you a sheet!

(nope,,it's not suprising that they hide, Genie...just wearing)

Subject: RE: Help: Need (blank) fret diagram to copy
From: Jeri
Date: 26 Oct 02 - 10:12 PM

Genie, the easiest way would be to just do a table with 6 rows and however many columns for frets (or the other way around). You can do this over and over because it only takes about 10 seconds AND you can write which fingers to use in the corresponding cells.

Subject: RE: Help: Need (blank) fret diagram to copy
From: Genie
Date: 26 Oct 02 - 10:21 PM

Duh, Jeri. I do tables in MS Word all the time. DK why it didn't occur to me this time. (Sleep deprivation, probably.)   

There is one itty bitty problem with that, though -- the same problem I may have with a pre-formatted chord clip. That is that it's not easy to insert a graphic withing the text of a Word document unless you copy the whole thing as a picture and move stuff aroung. I'll play with it, though, and see what happens.

Genie

Subject: RE: Help: Need (blank) fret diagram to copy
From: Jeri
Date: 26 Oct 02 - 10:28 PM

I'm not sure what the problem is, but if it helps, sometimes I cheat and make a really wide table look like two or three by getting rid of the borders on the in-between cells. If you're trying to make text wrap around the side of the table, I haven't figured that out.

Subject: RE: Help: Need (blank) fret diagram to copy
From: Justa Picker
Date: 26 Oct 02 - 10:37 PM

Genie,
I was able to convert the page Bill mentioned (the one will mutlitple blank chord charts) into a PDF file... If you PM me with your e-mail address I'd be happy to email it to you.


(...yes Bill you win! *g*...)

Subject: RE: Help: Need (blank) fret diagram to copy
From: Genie
Date: 27 Oct 02 - 12:29 AM

Thanks, JP, will do.

I finally did get "If You Could Read My Mind" printed out complete with chord diagrams for a few chords with unfamiliar names. I used MS Word, but it took an incredible amount of futzing around with tables, borders, copy as picture, paste, and then shrink, etc. (The right hand border -- i.e., the 1st string -- kept disappearing.)

Anyway, I've got one I can copy for other Word documents. But I can't post it on the Mudcat, since the pictures in Word won't post.

Subject: RE: Help: Need (blank) fret diagram to copy
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 27 Oct 02 - 01:44 AM

In Word. Throw in a couple of blank lines just so you'll be able to pick a cursor location outside your diagram later. Put your cursor on any except the first or last line.

INSERT - TEXT BOX, Click and drag to make a rectangle.
When you get a "box" you can click in it and then FORMAT TEXTBOX, select the SIZE tab and re-size it to whatever you want. For a simple fret diagram, about 2.0 x 2.0 inches works pretty well. While you're in the FORMAT - TEXTBOX function, you'll probably want to turn of the borders for the text box itself.

Click inside the text box, and tab 5 times. Highlight the tabs and select TABLE, CONVERT TEXT TO TABLE. This should give you 5 columns, automatically adjusted to the width of the text box. Click inside the table and hit the TAB key until you've got enough rows.

Click in the table, then TABLE - SELECT TABLE, then FORMAT - BORDERS AND SHADING. Click to put borders on "All" and you've got a fret pattern. (5 columns in the table gives 6 vertical border lines).

Text should "wrap" around the text box, so you can do whatever you want outside the box. If by some chance it doesn't, you go to FORMAT - TEXT BOX, and pick the WRAPPING TAB. Click "square wrapping in the top row, and whatever suits you in the second row. You can also use the FORMAT - TEXT BOX POSITION tab to move the whole box around.

If you select a carriage return before the text box, and drag down until you include a carriage return after the box, you can copy and paste more text boxes, with the table in them. (it helps to turn on "view all" under TOOLS - OPTIONS so you can see the tab arrows and CR characters)

IF YOU WANT FANCY: put 6 columns in the table. Select the whole table and Format - Borders and Shading and make the borders WHITE. Make the vertical borders "REAL WIDE." In SHADING, make the background Black, then format your FONT, COLOR WHITE. Using the "text" area of the table, with black background gives you black vertical lines that you can write in - White "X" or finger number where you want it. (make sure you only do this inside the table.) This is the "DeLuxe" version.

If you haven't done it once, it may sound messy; but it's the simplest way to get "tiny tables" that you can move around and flow text around.

John