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Subject: Lyr Req: Black Sh*g, Headless Hound of Gimingham
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 28 Oct 02 - 03:20 AM

Anyone have the words to this authentic Norfolk ghost story, as told by Sid Kipper? I've lost my copy I need it for Friday (late Halowe'en celebration).

Steve


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Black Sh*g, Headless Hound of Gimingham
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 28 Oct 02 - 04:12 AM

It looks as if "rob d" has got it if he's still on the list. See Kipper thread

Nigel


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Black Sh*g, Headless Hound of Gimingham
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 28 Oct 02 - 04:23 AM

Attempted a PM to rob d, but not in members list. However, the thread mentioned above does include other 'likely suspects'

Nigel


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Awful Tale of Black Shag (Kipper Family)
From: GUEST,#
Date: 13 Mar 21 - 04:04 PM

I think the hound was referred to as Black Shuck.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Awful Tale of Black Shag (Kipper Family)
From: Senoufou
Date: 13 Mar 21 - 04:11 PM

I live in Norfolk, and it's Black Shuck, not Black Shag. I'm ashamed to say this has made me giggle uncontrollably.


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Subject: RE: Req: Awful Tale of Black Shuck (Kipper Family)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 09 Nov 22 - 05:53 PM

I found a Myths and Folklore Wiki that tells me, in part:
    Black Shuck, Old Shuck, Old Shock or simply Shuck is the name given to an unknown creature said to roam in East Anglia. Black Shuck is one of many ghostly black dogs recorded across the British Isles. The famous sighting in Bungay and Blythburg is a particularly famous account of the beast, and images of black sinister dogs have become part of the iconography of the area. In Wales a very similar creature is called a Gwyllgi.


But can someone supply the lyrics for the Kipper Family song, now that I've corrected the thread title?

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Req: Awful Tale of Black Shuck (Kipper Family)
From: GUEST,Mike Yates
Date: 10 Nov 22 - 09:07 AM

According to the Norfolk singer Walter Pardon, Shuck didn't exist. It was a story put about by local smugglers to keep people indoors when the smugglers were bringing their wares into the villages.


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Subject: RE: Req: Awful Tale of Black Shuck (Kipper Family)
From: GUEST,CJB
Date: 16 Nov 22 - 01:57 AM

Lots on YT but not for Kipper Fsmily ….

https://m.youtube.com/results?sp=mAEA&search_query=Black+Shuck+Kipper+Family

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Subject: RE: Req: Awful Tale of Black Shuck (Kipper Family)
From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey
Date: 16 Nov 22 - 08:06 PM

Has anyone tried getting in touch with Sid Kipper - he has a website but may want a payment for any material supplied - shock horror!!


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Subject: RE: Req: Awful Tale of Black Shuck (Kipper Family)
From: GUEST,CJB
Date: 20 Nov 22 - 09:31 AM

Ask on the Facebook group?


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Subject: RE: Req: Awful Tale of Black Shuck (Kipper Family)
From: GUEST,CJB
Date: 20 Nov 22 - 10:59 AM

Asked on the Facebook site - my post was denied. Waste of time. But WTF?


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Subject: RE: The Awful Story of Black Shag (Kipper Family)
From: Reinhard
Date: 20 Nov 22 - 11:57 AM

THE AWFUL STORY OF BLACK SHAG
as told by Henry Kipper on Arrest These Merry Gentlemen

This is the tale of Black Shag, the huge horrible headless hound of Gimingham what used to hound us round our pads. That all began one cold dark Christmas Eve many years ago when Old Ephraim Kipper was on his way home from the Goat Inn, and he'd thought he'd take a short cut through Demon's Wood. But he was wrong cause it's a lot quicker if you stick to the wood but Old Ephraim wouldn't be told and he walked into the wood. Further and further and further he walked and darker and darker and darker that got until he couldn't see his hands in front of his face. Well, he had his hands in his pockets, as a matter of fact, but that didn't deter Ephraim. Onwards and onwards and onwards he walked until he reached the very heart of the forest. All he could see was trees. He looked to the right and he saw trees, he looked to the left and he saw trees. He turned and looked behind him and what do you thing he saw? More trees. Then he looked up at the sky and he saw stars. Well, he walked into one of the trees, you see, that's why, but as he laid there on the ground he heard it, an eerie sort of spine-curdling noise that went like this here: "Ooo ooo ooo", well something like that. And then he saw it, swinging through the trees towards him, a great huge, headless hound with eyes as big as saucers, "Black Shag", that came bounding up to Ephraim with his great jaws dripping saliva. And he really thought his number had come. But then, just as those great jaws were about to close on Ephraim's throat, he heard a voice calling out through the trees. "Heel Shag, naughty, naugthy Shag", and do you know that hound turned and bounded off the way that it'd come and was never seen again. But they do say to this very day that if you go through Demon's Wood at night there's always best to take with you something to feed the dog with, just in case you meet up with "Black Shag", and that's why if you ever meet any of our family in Demon's Wood at night, like as not they have with them a rabbit or a couple of pheasants in their pockets just to feed the headless hound of Gimingham.

Was that alright? Hello? I've got another nice story. Is anyone there?


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Subject: RE: Req: Awful Tale of Black Shuck (Kipper Family)
From: Jeri
Date: 20 Nov 22 - 11:58 AM

The Facebook page - I'm sure some peple have read this:
This page is for announcements, as an annex to the official Mudcat.org site that has been around since the mid-1990s. It was set up by and is owned by Max Spiegel, who has created a wonderful site where folk and blues music information and much more about lots of other kinds of music is stored, shared, and discussed. That is where we need the detailed discussions about music to land, where they are searchable and durable.
Please use the facebook page for brief announcements, not long discussions, because everything soon vanishes here.
It's what THIS site is for, not the Facebook group.


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Subject: RE: Req: Awful Tale of Black Shuck (Kipper Family)
From: GUEST,CJB
Date: 20 Nov 22 - 04:09 PM

Great upload Reinhard - thank you.

Meanwhile shouldn’t the comment about FB be: “ Please use the facebook page for brief announcements, not long discussions, because everything soon vanishes THERE.”

FB is useless for archival posts. Text quickly scrolls away. And then is deleted. So text posted is too ephemeral and uploading anything meaningful a waste of time.

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Subject: RE: Req: Awful Tale of Black Shuck (Kipper Family)
From: Jeri
Date: 20 Nov 22 - 04:47 PM

The quote from the Facebook page was actually from the Facebook page. I hope you now understand.


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Subject: RE: Req: Awful Tale of Black Shuck (Kipper Family)
From: GUEST,CJB
Date: 20 Nov 22 - 05:05 PM

Since my post to the FB page was denied by an Admin - aka censored - I don’t actually give a monkeys. I spent years searching for the Country Code files. Which have now been copied and re-uploaded to Archive under another name. Yet now the last time I posted I was basically told to piss off. Never had that from OTR groups, folks have usually been all to grateful for findings and shares.


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