BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?

Subject: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: Oaklet
Date: 05 Nov 02 - 07:51 PM

Where can I buy a nice posi-drive screwdriver in Luton. Don't start banging on about Bedfordshire in general because I haven't got a car, I can't be arsed travelling on buses and trains are rubbish. Hope you can help.

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: Leadfingers
Date: 05 Nov 02 - 07:54 PM

Is there a B & Q in Luton?? Oh No just an L and U and a T and an O
and An N.

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 05 Nov 02 - 08:08 PM

Do you need your Pozi in Luton UK, or Luton Bolivia (the one near Bogota where Butch and Sundance got theirs)

Personally speaking, I would dissuade you from thoughts of using this hideously unprofessional excuse for a tool, and encourage a callous on the palm of your hand, which you can then fondly invent a Planxty for.

Sorry I was a miserable Hector tonight. The Ayatollah fecked me right off.

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 05 Nov 02 - 08:11 PM

Here's a link to a page showing DIY shops in Luton, courtesy Google.

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: Oaklet
Date: 05 Nov 02 - 08:11 PM

Look, will you just stop posting to this ridiculous thread and allow me to sympethise evidentially, with those poor buggers who post worthy things and get ignored. You are the bloody limit at times.

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Nov 02 - 08:12 PM

I don't know about Luton, but you can get them at Home Hardware in Orillia. Have you tried "Helpful Hardware" in Twillingsgate? They're quaint and somewhat disorganized, but you wouldn't believe what you can find in the wooden shelving and bins at the back. I heard that someone bought a sextant there that dated back to Nelson's day, and fetched a fortune for it on Ebay...

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: RichM
Date: 05 Nov 02 - 08:38 PM

The box began to open.

Phillips stumbled backwards and held up a hand to his eyes. A crack of light, painfully bright to his dilated pupils, shone forth as the top began to lift slowly upwards.

It reminded Phillips of someone taking the lid off a Christmas present they knew they weren't going to like. Suddenly he felt distinctly uncomfortable.

The light burned star-shaped as the lid rose ever higher and the warehouse became as bright as day. For some insane reason all the security grids chose that moment to go off and the city of antiquities blared Phillips' ear-drums to oblivion as they welcomed the new dawn.

The unfortunate man collapsed to the ground in a shattered heap. His hands clutched wretchedly at his bloodied head. He raised his maddened gaze to the box and saw the star turn supernova.

At last, he thought before the flames took him.

excerpt from
http://www.planetprozak.freeserve.co.uk/pp10/fiction6.html

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Nov 02 - 08:40 PM

Wow. That's dramatic.

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: Oaklet
Date: 05 Nov 02 - 08:41 PM

Look, will you stop this!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: GUEST,BILL
Date: 05 Nov 02 - 09:27 PM

iF YOU ARE NOT SURE WHERE TO GET THEM - SHOULDN'T THEY BE NEGIDRIVES
BILL(THE SOUND)

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: Bill D
Date: 05 Nov 02 - 10:09 PM

*clueless American wondering whether "PosiDrive" is a brand name, a style, a mechanical description...*

we have a whole line of battery powered tools from Makita...but when someone says "loan me your Makita", he means a battery powered drill/screwdriver.

Brits use something called "Araldite" for glueing, but that seems to be (I think) a specific 'brand' of epoxy glue, like Americans use "Kleenex" for most tissues for wiping the nose..*grin*...

ain't culture grand?

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 05 Nov 02 - 11:19 PM

By virtue of evidence accumulated from Google image searches using "posidrive" and "pozidrive" as search criteria, methinks "posidrive" is nothing more than UK terminology for what U.S. handymen refer to as "Phillips' Head". I don't know how things are in Luton, but around here it would be harder to find a store that didn't have a few Phillips' screwdrivers on the shelf than one that did.

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: Bill D
Date: 05 Nov 02 - 11:35 PM

!! That's ALL it is??...*sigh*....sounded like some mechanical invention. I wonder how such differences happen? Did Mr. Phillips not have a lobby in the UK? *grin* I can at least SEE 'petrol' instead of 'gasoline'....

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: My guru always said
Date: 06 Nov 02 - 04:08 AM

If it's a disposable one you want, we have a Wilkinson's in the Arndale. Luton and environs are always prepared when furniture repair is needed. Araldite is also available locally. We prefer 'wet wipes' to 'Kleenex' for those tougher tasks.

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: mooman
Date: 06 Nov 02 - 05:06 AM

Would Dunstable be close enough?

moo

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: Oaklet
Date: 06 Nov 02 - 05:07 AM

In North Lincolnshire, birch bark is the only effective tummy - wipe. Kleenex and Wet Wipes - Pah!

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: My guru always said
Date: 06 Nov 02 - 05:24 AM

There may be a train link between Dunstable & Luton at some future time....

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: Oaklet
Date: 06 Nov 02 - 05:30 AM

Yes, but haven't the barmy buggers decided to surface the old track bed, and run buses on it? Or was that just another of my dreams?

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: My guru always said
Date: 06 Nov 02 - 05:51 AM

Hmm, yes, that was one idea, still being discussed of course. Considering that a lot of the track has already been tarmac'd for car parks etc. it's a wonder the argument is still going on.

And then there's the new railway station complex vs. Eddie's Bar - no-one know how that one will end. I'm sure there'll be a few broken bar stools needing repair before it's sorted!

Current affairs travel well up the Humber don't they....

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: Lanfranc
Date: 06 Nov 02 - 06:06 AM

This link might help!

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: My guru always said
Date: 06 Nov 02 - 06:10 AM

Cor, Thanks Alan!

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: Lanfranc
Date: 06 Nov 02 - 06:20 AM

Don't mention it! (Correct spelling always helps when searching!)

Alan

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: Oaklet
Date: 06 Nov 02 - 06:31 AM

My Guru, if you live here, even things in Bedfordshire appear fascinating. Skipjack is an avid trainspotter and railway enthusiast. I had to build him a huge model railway in my attic.

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: AKS
Date: 06 Nov 02 - 06:36 AM

re: BWL & Bill D,
Posidrive (star or double cross shaped) is not another term for phillips - why not filips, btw? - (cross shaped) head. But many a handyman (in Europe as well) has not noticed the difference between these two, and thus keeps screwing up the (srew)heads using the wrong one.
I understand that pzd is considered to be somehow more suitable for "makitaing"; at least here in Finland only the plaster board and tin-sheet screws are Phillips headed any more.

AKS, who happens to own an AEG makita, and is planning to join the I-dremelled-it-myself society someday ;-)

p.s. back in the 70s we used to have araldite, too, but then some of us shifted to super epoxy ...

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: My guru always said
Date: 06 Nov 02 - 07:21 AM

Personally I prefer traction engines although they tend to spot me rather than the other way around.

One of my brothers makes small steam train engines though & special children ride around the track behind them on sunny days, does that count?

One must always have the correct tools for the job, whatever they're called. They've only got names so that you can ask someone to pass them across at the crucial moment. A leather apron with the correct pockets should be worn at all times in case everyone else slips out to the pub.

I did so enjoy 'West Wing' the other night when Charlie put 'crazy glue' on CJ's phone, how we laughed!

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: GUEST,smallpiper
Date: 06 Nov 02 - 08:24 AM

left or right handed?

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: Banjo-Flower
Date: 06 Nov 02 - 08:37 AM

O,OO or N guage Oakleaf?

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 06 Nov 02 - 09:21 AM

I thought this was going to be about a new band, the South's answer to Pinch the Whores.
RtS

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 06 Nov 02 - 10:09 AM

AKS, you appear to be using "makita" as a generic term for a cordless screwdriver. I cannot yet accept the eponymous verb "to makita", and still less can I accept that you own an AEG makita. That is like saying you own an ELectrolux Hoover.

I too used to own a AEG (mains powered) SDS drill. They are very reliable tools. As indeed are Makita drills.

Murray

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 06 Nov 02 - 10:18 AM

Of course, what any craftsman or DIY dabbler should be using are square drive screws. Far superior to both Phillips and pozi-drive.
Difficult to get them in Britain, however.

Incidentally AKS is quite correct, pozi-drive and phillips are not interchangeable terms.

Murray

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: My guru always said
Date: 06 Nov 02 - 10:24 AM

Dear Acorn, why is your search centred in Luton? Surely male-order would be preferable to tackling the melee at this end of the A1?

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 06 Nov 02 - 10:26 AM

heloo , yoi should try screwfix direct, they will send it too you and they have got a website, click here = http://www.screwfixdirect.com

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: Oaklet
Date: 06 Nov 02 - 10:48 AM

Banjo_Flower - Skip's trainset in my attic is 00 guage. I always wanted a Pozi Driv screwdriver from Luton - I guess I'm just funny that way.

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: Oaklet
Date: 06 Nov 02 - 10:59 AM

Some loony has just posted about "Saadam". I wish I'd thought of that.

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: Banjo-Flower
Date: 06 Nov 02 - 07:31 PM

Steam outline or modern day ?
Gerry

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Nov 02 - 07:44 PM

Oakley, are you a model train enthusiast? I have a friend here in Barrie, Ontario who is a master layout builder. He has constructed a huge HO Scale layout in his basement, and it's a beauty. There must be $25,000 worth of railroad stuff in it...everything imaginable. He's even invented his own rail line, with its own paint scheme, logo, and so on, and decorated some of the rolling stock appropriately.

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: Oaklet
Date: 07 Nov 02 - 02:37 AM

LH, having just encountered a gaggle of nerds in the chatroom who are osessed with railroads, I am pleased to say that I am a little cold on the subject. I lied to Banjo_Flower about the scale of Skipjack's trainset in my attic. It is full size and I had to significantly strengthen the floor to accommodate a ton of ballast, 6 feet of track and for realism, several shreds of dried toilet paper with stains on. The room cannot be used for anything else and reeks of creosote. Still, he appear very happy with it and sits up there quite happily for hours making train noises.

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: smallpiper
Date: 07 Nov 02 - 06:08 AM

Choo Choooooo!

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: Fibula Mattock
Date: 07 Nov 02 - 06:52 AM

I just can't believe this thread hasn't been censored! I'm outraged. I remember the old days when all this was folk. Why, we even have guests posting these days - what will they think of next. This must be some sort of Mudcat Inner Clique. Etc. Ad nauseum.

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: Banjo-Flower
Date: 07 Nov 02 - 06:53 AM

How did you get it through that tiny hatch ?

Gerry

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: Oaklet
Date: 07 Nov 02 - 07:02 AM

Fib, I really regret adding the BS to the title of this thread. If I had omitted it, there would have been outrage, I would be denounced and the thing would have been shut down. My next attempt to score zero posts will be more accomplished.

Was contimplating "Any Mudcatters in Estonia?" Does anyone want to do the honours?

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: Oaklet
Date: 07 Nov 02 - 07:21 AM

Gerry, there is, as you very well know, a grand, sweeping theatrical staircse to the former servants' quarters in my farmhouse.

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: smallpiper
Date: 07 Nov 02 - 07:41 AM

Don't forget to tell us where you got it from oakmould, There is an investigation underway at York Railway Museum into the disapearance of one steam locomotive and some rolling stock and was it you that borrowed that stretch of East Coast railway the other week?

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 07 Nov 02 - 01:57 PM

Why leave home?

ToolWarehouse

(Not a recommendation, that's just what I got when I put "Posidrive" in a search.)

John

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: Oaklet
Date: 07 Nov 02 - 02:27 PM

Inspired by the rapid fall from grace of the Hodgeson's thread by my good friend ET, I have summoned up the courage to launch the "Any Catters in Estonia" thread. It is plummeting like a lead balloon, beautifully. If anyone posts to it, I'll use it as an opportunity to introduce "Thread Chess" - a fun game for all the family, but hopefully it shouldn't be neccessary.

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: Banjo-Flower
Date: 07 Nov 02 - 07:35 PM

Would that be right hand thread chess or left hand thread chess ? or then again would it be fine thread chess or coarse thread chess ?

Gerry

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 07 Nov 02 - 07:38 PM

I look forward to sharing a rubber with you, Oakers. This thread bridge sounds very promising.

I really regret you exposing my speciality to the chattering masses. What I get up to in your attic with my bib and brace, and a bit of nutty slack is my business. Just stay below stairs and stick to the teat dip. Savvy?

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Nov 02 - 07:55 PM

fibula - You should leave protesting against rubbish like this thread to Ms Penelope Rutledge. She minces no words. In fact, I'm a bit surprised she has not shown up. Maybe she's still recovering from the Malcolm Buggeroll incident (see "On Twillingsgate").

Oakley - Anyone who installs 6 feet of full size railroad track & bed in his attic is either mentally ill or dead stupid. If it's the former, get help. If it's the latter...well...I guess not much can be done about it. :-)

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: Oaklet
Date: 07 Nov 02 - 08:09 PM

Well, it seemed like a good idea at the time - Skip was quite insistant and it does keep him happy for hours. OK LH, I am stupid.

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: CraigS
Date: 08 Nov 02 - 07:33 PM

I wish to point out that the correct spelling is POSIDRIV - apart from that, screw this thread!

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 08 Nov 02 - 08:15 PM

Well, Craig, I wish to point out that the engraved identifiers on the insert tips which one can buy at B&Q (or any other hardware store) read "PH" (Phillips) and "PZ" which would lead me to believe that the correct spelling is in fact Pozidrive.

Murray

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: GUEST,Pete
Date: 09 Nov 02 - 04:22 PM

I think the correct spelling is pozidriv.

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Nov 02 - 05:14 PM

Pozidriv screwdrivers are a load of bollocks anyway. The best screw and screwdriver you can get is the reliable old Canadian Robertson head type. It fits a square aperture in the head of the screw. Works way better than a Phillips or any other type, and lasts longer too. Designed and created IN CANADA!!! Beats hell out of Yankee and British screw heads.

So TAKE OFF, EH! :-)

- LH

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: CraigS
Date: 09 Nov 02 - 05:42 PM

I got to admit I need my dickshonari ficksed soon - just asx soon as I can get my head deflated - but how come I got to say it wrong before someone say it wright? Eh?

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: GUEST,Bill
Date: 10 Nov 02 - 11:34 AM

With all this LH or RH. Fine or course it looks as though Banjo Flower knows more about screwingm than the rest of us.
Bill (the sound)

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: Banjo-Flower
Date: 10 Nov 02 - 11:44 AM

But of course what would you like to know?

Gerry

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: Gareth
Date: 10 Nov 02 - 11:56 AM

On the other hand there is that useful tool known as the Birmingham Scewdriver. Used by "woodbutchers" - sold under the name of "Hammer".

Gareth

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 10 Nov 02 - 01:49 PM

Personally, I think that the multiplicity of screw types currently in use is a conspiracy to increase the likelihood that I will not have the correct type of screwdriver in my toolkit to take something apart. I recently tried to see what was wrong with a non-operating coffeemaker, but didn't have the correct screwdriver to get the bottom plate off of the thing. The small likelihood of finding a repairable problem factored by the probable price of a special screwdriver that may well never get used again made tossing the thing seem the better option. If it'd been put together with regular Phillips screws I might have been able to fix it. But then I wouldn't have had to buy a new one. Did I mention "conspiracy"?

Bruce

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 10 Nov 02 - 02:39 PM

LH you are of course correct, the square drive screw, invented by Canadian P L Robertson is by far the best (as I said in my previous post).

But, I have always wondered why it is not generically referred to as a "Robertson" screw, in the same way as a "Phillips" or "Allen" screw.

I used them every day for two years while working in Boston, but I never heard anybody refer to them as anything but "square -drive" screws.

Murray

Subject: RE: BS: Posidrive screwdrivers in Luton - Where?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Nov 02 - 03:16 PM

I don't know. They're called Robertson head screws around here. My father briefly worked for P.L.Robertson in Milton, Ontario, back around the early 50's sometime.

- LH