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Songs of Faithless Women

Naemanson 12 Nov 02 - 12:15 PM
sharyn 12 Nov 02 - 12:33 PM
Kim C 12 Nov 02 - 01:42 PM
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Subject: Songs of Faithless Women
From: Naemanson
Date: 12 Nov 02 - 12:15 PM

Having once again taken a shot to the heart I would like to find some songs of women who have dumped their lovers. I already sing "Sally Free And Easy" and "Oggy Man" but my repertoire is somewhat slack in this field.

So, while I continue to duct tape my heart back together how about some ideas. Chords and midi files would be welcome as well.

Country-western songs need not apply. It just ain't my style.


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: sharyn
Date: 12 Nov 02 - 12:33 PM

Try:

Devilish Mary
Black Dog and Sheepcrook
I Wonder What's Keeping My True Love Tonight
'Gin I Were a Baron's Heir (not strictly dumping, but ...)
Pretty Saro
'Twas on an April Morning
Young Roger the Miller (mutual, serial dumping)
Rich Irish Lady (she rejects him, dies repenting)
Loving Hannah (aka I Went to Mass Last Sunday)
I Once Loved A Lass (aka The Week Before Easter, The False Bride)
The Nobleman's Wedding

I'm sure there are lots more. Some of these may not be the particular flavor of rejection you are seeking. There's "Barbara Allen," of course.

I don't have the capacity to create MIDI files, but I imagine some of these things might be in the DT.

Good Luck


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: Kim C
Date: 12 Nov 02 - 01:42 PM

Pretty Nancy of Yarmouth. I think it's in the DT.


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: Willa
Date: 12 Nov 02 - 02:18 PM

The Brisk Young Widow


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: Willa
Date: 12 Nov 02 - 02:21 PM

Naemanson Click here @displaysong.cfm?SongID=946


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: bazza
Date: 12 Nov 02 - 02:25 PM

The Kangaroo


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: Merritt
Date: 12 Nov 02 - 02:28 PM

In a slightly different direction for music and relationships, Sam Theard published I'll Be Glad When You're Dead (You Rascal You). A hit for Louis Armstrong around the same time. Heard takes it out on the other guy instead of the woman tho'.

- Merritt


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Nov 02 - 02:41 PM

Not to mention "Greensleeves".


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: HuwG
Date: 12 Nov 02 - 02:52 PM

How about, "Courting in the Kitchen"? It's odd, but I can't find it in the Digitrad; I would have expected it to be quite well known.

[Maidservant leads a suitor on, then makes allegation of robbery and/or assault when her employer appears]


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: katlaughing
Date: 12 Nov 02 - 03:14 PM

Frank to Valentino by the late, lamented Dave Carter and his partner, Tracy Grammer

some great lyrics...

got himself married at 17
she looked real pretty
but she talked kinda mean
he thought they'd work things out
in the fullness of time
twenty years later he's headed south,
a short-range victim of her sawed-off mouth...

and, he thinks he's found a way
to cure his working blues...


Sorry to hear this, Naes.

luvyakat


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: Phil Cooper
Date: 12 Nov 02 - 03:33 PM

Rosie Anderson.


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Subject: Lyr Add: BLAME IT ON THE SUN (from Stevie Wonder)
From: outfidel
Date: 12 Nov 02 - 03:33 PM

Hope this helps the heartache...

Stevie Wonder, "BLAME IT ON THE SUN", from the great album Talking Book

Where has my love gone?
How can I go on?
It seems dear love has gone away.

Where is my spirit?
I'm nowhere near it,
Oh yes, my love has gone astray.

But I'll blame it on the sun,
The sun that didn't shine,
I'll blame it on the wind and the trees.

I'll blame it on the time that never was enough,
I'll blame it on the tide and the sea,
But, my heart blames it on me.

Who poured the love out?
What made this bitter doubt?
Is peace not here for me to see?

Wish I could tell you,
But, words won't come for me to speak.

But I'll blame it on the sun,
That didn't fill the sky,
I'll blame it on the birds and the trees.

I'll blame it on the day that ended once too soon,
I'll blame it on the nights that could not be,
But, my heart blames it on me.

(Background)...Yeh, yeh, yeh, ooh,
Your heart blames it on you this time.


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Subject: Lyr Add: LULLABYE (Emmit Rhodes)
From: Merritt
Date: 12 Nov 02 - 03:58 PM

Current favorite song of loss is off Emmit Rhodes self-named album. Arranged with just acoustic guitar and harmonium. - Merritt

LULLABYE

Tears that angels cry
They darken all the sky
When the one you love says good-bye
Tears that angels cry

Sing a lullabye
Sing it soft and only sigh
When the one you love says good-bye
Sing a lullabye

Dah-de-dah
When your love's still strong
And the one you love is gone


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: katlaughing
Date: 12 Nov 02 - 05:35 PM

I heard a beautiful one on Prairie Home Companion by Delbert McClintock, called Don't want to love you. You can hear it on the show at this CLICK. It's about 2/3rds of the way down on the far left, 46 minutes and some seconds into the show. Well worth the listen.

{{{{{{{{{NAES}}}}}}}}}

kat


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 12 Nov 02 - 06:49 PM

Coortin' In the Kitchen is in DigiTrad. Generally, it's better to search for words that aren't subject to excessive dialect modification. Like KITCHEN

There's a keyword for @infidelity--produces about 125 hits.


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: Joe_F
Date: 12 Nov 02 - 07:25 PM

What is that lugubrious song that ends in the wonderful anticlimax

Is this the way it always is in Baltimore?


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: SINSULL
Date: 12 Nov 02 - 07:45 PM

"Ruby" (Don't take Your Love To Town)

C'mon Brett. Snap out of it! There is a whole bevy of Mudcat Beauties looking for a real man. Put away the duct tape and like LBJ proudly bare those scars! But please don't carry the beagle around by his ears...
SINS


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: Genie
Date: 12 Nov 02 - 08:49 PM

Flora, The Lily Of The West


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: Genie
Date: 12 Nov 02 - 08:51 PM

Oh, phooey, what's the name of that French lady who hides her lover in a chest and forgets he's there?

Oh, yeah,
"Perrine Etait Servante"

She doesn't remember till YEARS later, IIRC!


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: Genie
Date: 12 Nov 02 - 08:53 PM

One of my favorites is "Inverey" or "The Baron O' Brackley." This wife was not only unfaithful, she was utterly treacherous!


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: Genie
Date: 12 Nov 02 - 09:04 PM

I know it's a pop song, but how about "Delilah," as sung by Tom Jones?

Lemon Tree

Yellow Bird

Sylvie  (She lies to the guy and doesn' even bring him the jailhouse
key.)

Does "Barbry Allen" count?

Young Hunting (Love Henry)  -- if murdering the guy counts as being "unfaithful."

and how about "Nancy Whiskey?"   -- Now there's a wicked mistress!


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: Hester
Date: 12 Nov 02 - 09:48 PM

Hi, Naemanson:

You've got to include Nick Lowe's "Faithless Lover" in your list. In fact, his entire album "Dig My Mood" is just what you need to croon your blues away!


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: sharyn
Date: 12 Nov 02 - 09:50 PM

Hey Genie,

He's looking for unfaithful women -- Loving Henry was a two-timing so-and-so


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: GUEST,bdatki
Date: 12 Nov 02 - 09:56 PM

Little Maggie

and if you change the words to a male pronoun, The Weeping Willow Tree


bdatki


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: mg
Date: 12 Nov 02 - 10:09 PM

how about Delia's Gone? On Top of Old Smokey. Women have very good ways of getting over broken hearts..1. is to listen to Linda Rondstadt records, particularly he's no good he's no good at mach speed. 2. Is chocolate. 3. is talking endlessly to anyone who will listen.

I Still Miss Someone is very very good.

mg


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: toadfrog
Date: 12 Nov 02 - 10:34 PM

Now, a fine faithless woman was MAGGIE MAY. And the maid who lived in Portsmouth town, and swore she would be true. And I think the young lady with the Black Velvet Band (who shouldn't need a clicky) qualifies as "Faithless" - most emphatically!


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: GUEST,Chicken Charlie
Date: 12 Nov 02 - 10:57 PM

In the same vein as Barbree Allen and Lily of the West: The Deep Blue Sea (Doc Watson); The Girl I Left in Tennessee, aka Maggie Walker; On Top of Old Smokey; The Maid on the Shore (?--Stan Rogers); Tennessee Waltz; My Pretty Quadroon; Margaritaville; Tavern in the Town; Hard, Ain't it Hard; Wish That I Had Never Been Born (Jerry Garcia); Railroad Bill; Nadine; and, having been there and done that, one I wrote called "The Way You've Got Me Feeling." Shady Grove, maybe. Man on the Flying Trapeze. Autumn Leaves. I Wish You Love. Mabelline. So Different Blues. (Mance Lipscombe) How Can You Quit Me, Honey? (Mance Lipscome)

I don't know if "Delia's Gone" qualifies--Tony shoots her just because she curses him, but does she have a chance to leave him? I don't know.

Undoubtedly there are 1,412 more.

CC


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: Phil Cooper
Date: 12 Nov 02 - 11:20 PM

The one with "rocking the baby that's none of my own."


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: mg
Date: 12 Nov 02 - 11:47 PM

yeah..I was thinking of that one..Man of Kiandra..that is the one that merges into the Whoopi ti yi yo git along little doggies..but you have to hear the intermediate song to see the connection..
I have heard it is Welsh but other people say Scots or Irish but I believe Welsh is true.
mg


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: sharyn
Date: 13 Nov 02 - 12:09 AM

There is also "I've got no use for women/A true one can never be found." It's a cowboy song and it's in the DT, supposedly as learned from me, but I never sang it quite this way.


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: mg
Date: 13 Nov 02 - 01:38 AM

Hey that's no way to say goodbye


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: Genie
Date: 13 Nov 02 - 02:24 AM

Sharyn, in the version I know of Love Henry, it doesn't say why she kills him. You must know, as Paul Harvey would say "the rest of the story,"

And Mary, I know Tony shot his Delia, but I didn't know she cheated on him.

Chicken Charlie,
----The "Maybelline" of song that I know of is a car.
-
---The most popular (I think the definitive) version of "Tennessee Waltz" was sung by Patti Page. It's her "darling" (man) who is stolen away by her "friend"
(presumably female). Since we don't know if the "friend" was cheating on her own lover, the only cheater we know of is the guy.

---"On Top Of Old Smokey" is probably sung as often from the woman's perspective as from the man's.


How about "Lyin' Eyes" by the Eagles


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Subject: Lyr Add: CRYING TIME (from Ray Charles)
From: katlaughing
Date: 13 Nov 02 - 02:45 AM

CRYING TIME
Ray Charles
Music & Lyrics : Owens

Oh, it's cryin' time again, you're gonna leave me
I can see that far away look in your eyes
I can tell by the way you hold me darlin' Oooh
That it won't be long before it's cryin' time

Now they say that absence makes the heart grow fonder (fonder)
And that tears are only rain to make love grow
Well my love for you could never grow no stronger (stronger)
If I lived to be a hundred years old

Oh, it's cryin' time again, you're gonna leave me
I can see that far away look in your eyes
I can tell by the way you hold me darlin'. Yeah now
That it won't be long before it's cryin' time

Now you say you've found someone that you love better (better)
That's the way it's happened every time before
And as sure as the sun comes up tomorrow ('morrow)
Cryin' time will start when you walk out the door

Oh, it's cryin' time again, you're gonna leave me
I can see that far away look in your eyes
I can tell by the way you hold me darlin'. Alright now
That it won't be long before it's cryin' time
(That it won't be long before it's cryin' time)

Also, Freddy Fender's Before the next teardrop falls and almost anything by Hank Williams!

kat


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: GUEST,Boab
Date: 13 Nov 02 - 03:20 AM

Pity you discount "country and western" [although I can't blame you!]A drive around Texas and Arizona tuned into local stations produces an amazing amount!! Ad nauseaaaaaaaam-----


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: HuwG
Date: 13 Nov 02 - 08:08 AM

Thanks, Dick Greenhaus, Coortin' in the Kitchen is indeed in the Digitrad.

Whe searching for Irish tunes in the Digitrad, it is useful to adopt a Buzz Hawkins trick (for singing his own composition, "Father Finacupane"), and type while winking one eye, with the head cocked over to one side.


The official chords as I have them are:


G                                           D
Come single belle and beau, to me now pay attention
G                                  C             D7
And love, I'll plainly show, is the divil's own invention.
G                  Bm          G7
For once I fell in love with a damsel most bewitchin'
C         E7   Am            A7             D
Miss Henrietta Bell, down in Captain Kelly's kitchen

cho:
G                                    D
To my toora loora la, my toora loora laddy
G                     D
Ri toora loora la, ri toora loora laddy.


However, I think this is a bit demanding for guitar players of my modest attainments; my usual chord progression for the last line of the verse goes, C, dull thud, Em, muttered curse, Am, A7, D. I prefer to play it as:

G                  Bm
For once I fell in love with a damsel most bewitchin'
C             Am            A7             D
Miss Henrietta Bell, down in Captain Kelly's kitchen


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 13 Nov 02 - 08:23 AM

What about Sweet Thyme. It's a lovely tune and chorus, but the last verse seems to indicate that there's still hope anew.


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: curmudgeon
Date: 13 Nov 02 - 09:43 AM

A few come to mind...

Whisky In the Jar (Gilgarry Mountain)

Brennan On the Moor   "...by a false hearted woman he was cruelly betrayed."

MacPhersons Farewell "It was by a woman's treacherous hand..."

The Maid of the Sweet Brown Knowe

In Almost Every Circumstance

The Dockyard Gate

I'll be happy to taech you anu of these at the China Trade evening -- Tom


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: Catarina
Date: 13 Nov 02 - 09:43 AM

Does "The house carpenter" count? She does leave her husband and child to follow her lover.

There's "The Drummer Boy" but she marries him in the end.

And there's "Bunclody" but there she isn't faithless, he just goes away because she's rich and he's not.

All three are in DT.


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: Naemanson
Date: 13 Nov 02 - 10:33 AM

These are good but most of them don't quite fit the bill. I am looking for wailing, crying songs. Perhaps the problem is that I don't have a clue as to why she left. I'm sure there isn't another person involved but beyond that I went from fiancee to single man in one step with no build up or warning.

Anyway, that's neither here nor there. I'm not looking for happy songs or songs of cheating partners. I just need to sing my tears.

Any of these good for that?


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Subject: Lyr Add: I'M BLOWING AWAY and FAITHLESS LOVE
From: Jeri
Date: 13 Nov 02 - 10:43 AM

Rock Salt & Nails

The obvious - Water is Wide (if you change "a man" to "someone." Any one-syllable word meaning female will probably get you in trouble.

What Mary said about Linda Ronstadt. Here's Lyrics

--and here are a couple of songs from there. (I know the first and I'm pretty sure I have the second on a J.D. Souther tape.)


I'M BLOWING AWAY

written by Eric Kaz
© Glasgo Music

I've been romanced dined and danced
Crazy nights and wild times
But my life has lost its mystery
Love is blind and it cannot find me

I'm blowing away
Shadows take my love and leave
I'm blowing away
Shadows keep taking my love and leaving me

And I have cast aside my foolish pride
And I'm going down for the last time
And I have searched this earth
And I've sailed these seas
Love is blind and it cannot find me

I'm blowing away
Shadows take my love and leave
I'm blowing away
Shadows keep taking my love and leaving me
You keep taking my love and leaving me


Lyrics as performed by Linda Ronstadt on Living in the U.S.A. (1978)


FAITHLESS LOVE

written by John David Souther
© WB Music Corp/ Golden Spread Music

Faithless love like a river flows
Raindrops falling on a broken rose
Down in some valley where nobody goes
And the night blows in like the cold dark wind
Faithless love like a river flows

Faithless love where did I go wrong
Was it telling stories in a heartbreak song
Where nobody's right and nobody was wrong
Faithless love will find you
And the misery entwine you
Faithless love where did I go wrong

Well I guess I'm standing in the hall of broken dreams
That's the way it sometimes goes
Whenever a new love never turns out like it seems
It's the feeling comes and goes

Faithless love like a river flows
Like raindrops falling on a broken rose
Down in some valley where nobody goes
Faithless love has found me
Thrown its chilly arms around me
Faithless love like a river flows


Lyrics as performed by Linda Ronstadt on Heart Like A Wheel (1974)


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Subject: Lyr Add: THERE'S A BOTTOM BELOW (Malvina Reynolds)
From: Charley Noble
Date: 13 Nov 02 - 11:54 AM

This is a good song for exploring the depths of dispair, for whatever reason, and as is usual with Malvina Reynolds there's also a sense of irony (copy and paste into WORD/TIMES/12 for chord placement):

THERE'S A BOTTOM BELOW

(Words and music by Malvina Reynolds, Schroder Music Co. 1970)

Chorus:

F---------------------------A
Do you think you've hit bot-tom?
F
Do you think you've hit bot-tom?
----E
Oh, no! There's a bot-tom be-low.

E--------D
There's a low be-low the low, you know;
------------------------------E------------------A
You can't i-mag-ine how far you can go – DOWN! (CHO)


Every once in a while you'll rise and glow,
But that's only so they can let you go – DOWN!! (CHO)

You sit at a party and watch the fun,
It don't touch you none 'cause you're off and gone – DOWN!!(CHO)

There's the nightmare kind where you fall and fall,
And you wake to find you haven't been dreaming at all – DOWN!! (CHO)

(Repeat first verse and chorus)

Charley Noble, who's been to that well several times


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Subject: Lyr Add: HEART LIKE A WHEEL (Anna McGarrigle)
From: alinact
Date: 13 Nov 02 - 12:45 PM

It would appear that duct tape would be no good for this broken heart.

Allan

HEART LIKE A WHEEL

written by Anna McGarrigle
© Anna McGarrigle (ASCAP)

Some say the heart is just like a wheel
When you bend it you can't mend it
But my love for you is like a sinking ship
And my heart is on that ship out in mid-ocean

When harm is done no love can be won
I know it happens frequently
What I can't understand oh please God hold my hand
Why it had to happen to me

And it's only love and it's only love
That can wreck a human being and turn him inside out

Some say the heart is just like a wheel
When you bend it you can't mend it
But my love for you is like a sinking ship
And my heart is on that ship out in mid-ocean


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: Naemanson
Date: 13 Nov 02 - 01:14 PM

I'd forgotten Heart Like A Wheel. I've always loved that song.

Charley, I need to hear the tune for that song but that shouldn't be any problem. I can get it from my new landlord.

Jeri, I'd forgotten about Ronstadt. I used to listen to her a lot back in the old days. I need to resurrect her and buy some of her stuff. I really like the Souther piece too. I'll need to hear them. I hope I can find a tape recorder. I'm thinking of coming down to the Press Room this Friday. Maybe you can give me the tune then.

Thanks, everyone. This has been a rough time. I don't know what I'd do without my friends. Charley has been especially good to me. Not only is he my new landlord but he helped me lug the heavy stuff. Good going, Charley Noble.


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Subject: Lyr Add: WHY SHOULD I MARRY (Richard Johnson)
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 13 Nov 02 - 03:58 PM

Maybe, Brett, you just need to learn (and take to heart) Richard Johnson's song, "Why Should I Marry?"

WHY SHOULD I MARRY?

written by Richard Johnson

Why should I marry
When there are bridges, high windows, and rooftops to jump from?
Why should I marry?
When I can drive my car off a cliff?
Don't they have poison and shotguns and hangmen
Too glad to have something to do?
Why should I marry?
I'd rather die quickly than slowly, my dear, with you.

Why should I marry?
Life is hard enough as it is.
Why should I marry?
To be free as a bird in a cage.
I work hard already so why should I feed you, too?
Why should I marry?
I'd rather die quickly than slowly, my dear, with you.

Why should I marry
When there are bridges, high windows, and rooftops to jump from?
Why should I marry?
To be free as a bird in a cage.
Don't they have poison and shotguns and hangmen
Too glad to have something to do?
Why should I marry?
I'd rather die quickly than slowly, my dear, with you.


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Subject: Lyr Add: COUNTRY SQUALL (Willie P. Bennett, Ipcar)
From: Charley Noble
Date: 13 Nov 02 - 04:10 PM

With friends like this...

Now this is a really moody one from the great plains of Canada:

COUNTRY SQUALL

(By Willie P. Bennett ©, with some minor word changes through the years by Charlie Ipcar)


Baby, if I'd been a gambler,
I'd have turned out a different way;
But lately, everywhere I go,
It's the same highway;
And if I were born some time else
This could be a different day;
Like the rise and fall of a country squall,
Getting' ready to fade away.

Sometimes I feel like
I should be in a different place,
With somebody else's mind
And somebody else's face;
'Cause lately, I've been feelin' low,
With nothing to do and no place to go;
Like the rise and fall of a country squall,
Getting' ready to fade away.

Leanin' on a birch tree,
Starin' up at a winter sky;
Listenin' to the black birds calling,
There's no tears left to cry;
And no reasons that I can find
Why I should run this race;
Like the rise and fall of a country squall,
Getting' ready to fade away.

Regardless,
Charley Noble and Landlady's Daughter


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: Midchuck
Date: 14 Nov 02 - 09:34 AM

If you really want to wallow in it, get Tom Russell's "Borderland" CD and listen to "Touch of Evil."

Peter.


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: Willie-O
Date: 14 Nov 02 - 10:15 AM

Brett...bummer. La Dona es Mobile. (Women is changable).

Well, you've got your friends, your music, your career, and your daughters--(I still remember a very wise remark you made to me, "All you can do is be proud of them", something I remind myself of every day as I see my eldest getting more independent).

I guess I would dig out old Ian & Sylvia albums to find:

I'm a rambler, I'm a gambler
I'm a long way from home
And them that don't like me
They can leave me alone.

There's changes in the ocean,
There's changes in the sea
There's changes, in my true love's heart,
But there's no change in me.   


Bill


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: Genie
Date: 14 Nov 02 - 07:42 PM

Catarina, of COURSE House Carpenter counts! Why do you think she ends up in hell?

Naemanson, what about "Careless Love?"

And, okay, I know you nixed "C/W" but Hank Williams's "Cold, Cold Heart" seems a perfect fit.

Genie


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: GUEST,Boab
Date: 15 Nov 02 - 03:19 AM

How about Tawney's other love-lament "Sammy's Bar"?
---And if ye want to sing away yer tears--the saddest song Rab Burns ever wrote--"Ye Banks and Braes o' Bonnie Doon".


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 15 Nov 02 - 05:24 AM

That most famous of faithless women; Jezebel:
"If ever a pair of eyes held a promise of paradise
It was you, Jezebel it was you"
(Not, of course referring to any regular poster here!)

or, posted recently Tit Willow

Nigel


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: Genie
Date: 15 Nov 02 - 10:34 PM

"Long Black Veil" tells the story of two cheaters, the narrator and his best friend's wife.


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: Genie
Date: 15 Nov 02 - 11:30 PM

One way to find these faithless damsels is to do a DT or DT/Forum search using "@a infidelity" or some such.
Among others, the DT has:
How could I forget?   The quintessential song of a faithless wife/lover, perhaps --
Blackjack Davey
The Raggle Taggle Gypsies
WHEN CARNAL FIRST CAME TO ARKANSAS
and some versions of The Gypsy Rover or The Whistling Gypsy.
 

The DT also has:
  Ballad Of The Waterfall
The Week Before Easter
Once I Had A Sweetheart
THE TRAIL TO MEXICO
ZULEIKA
PRETTY NANCY OF YARMOUTH
THE PLAIN GOLDEN BAND
THERE IS A TAVERN IN THE TOWN
SUSANNAH CLARGY
A SONG ON THE NANTUCKET LADIES
St. Louis Woman
New River Train
SALLY WHEATLEY
Once I Knew a Pretty Girl (The Rejected Lover)
PEGGY AND THE SOLDIER
MOUNT AND GO
CUCKOLDS All A-ROW
THE BUNCH OF VIOLETS
BOTTOMLESS WELL   (Shel Silverstein)
THE BROWN AND THE YELLOW ALE
BLACK-EYED MARY
Seven Nights Drunk
THE DOG IN THE CLOSET
THE BARLEY AND THE RYE
CHRISTINE LEROY
CARMEN
AS I WENT OUT FOR A RAMBLE
ANNIE BREEN
THE DOCKYARD GATE
DT search:  @infidelity


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Subject: Lyr Add: FOND AFFECTION
From: kendall
Date: 15 Nov 02 - 11:40 PM

My Pretty Quadroon doesn't qualify. She didn't dump the guy, she died.

How about FOND AFFECTION?
   Refrain
The water is wide, I cannot pass over,
The sea so deep I cannot wade,
I'll just go hire me a little boatman,
To row me across the stormy tide.

I'll give you back your ring and letters,
And the picture I loved so well
And henceforth we will meet as strangers
But, I will never say farewell.

repeat refrain

There's only three things that I could wish for,
That is my coffin, shroud and grave,
And when I'm dead, please don't weep o're me
Or kiss the lips you once betrayed.

rep. ref.

this one used to tear me up good! especially the line about meeting as strangers.
Brett, my friend, time really does heal all wounds. If you want details, pm me.


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: Genie
Date: 16 Nov 02 - 01:55 AM

That last verse, Kendall, reminds me of another one:

Little Darlin', Pal Of Mine


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: CAROLINE (from Wilmoth Houdini)
From: MorwenEdhelwen1
Date: 19 Jul 11 - 01:04 AM

CAROLINE - VICTOR 80078-A
Paseo (W.Houdini L. Belasco)
WILMOTH HOUDINI
with Belasco Orchestra
rec.1927

Tell me,where you been last night,
   Caroline?
Mammy,do you think that is right,
   Caroline?
All the neighbours laughing at me,
And they calling me moon sammy,
Tell me, where you been last night,
   Caroline?

A thing, that you shouldn`t do,
   Caroline,
For you know I love you for true,
   Caroline,
You know you are the pride of me heart,
Promised me we would never part,
But tell me, where you sleep last night,
   Caroline?

Caroline, you shouldn`t do me that,
   Caroline,
Give me your word and take it back,
   Caroline,
Yet you spending me money free,
Everybody aroun` can see,
Tell me where you been last night,
   Caroline?

Caroline, I want you no more,
   Caroline,
Take your georgie bundle and go,
   Caroline,
Me an` you could never agree,
Caroline, mammy don`t you see?,
Tell me, where you been last night,
   Caroline?

Caroline, you think I`m a fool,
   Caroline,
You try to use me just like a tool,
   Caroline,
I am working for money hard,
Mamito, and you spend it bad,
Tell me, where you been last night,
   Caroline?


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: MorwenEdhelwen1
Date: 19 Jul 11 - 01:07 AM

Posted from this thread: http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=32412


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: MorwenEdhelwen1
Date: 19 Jul 11 - 01:08 AM

Sorry, that didn't work. Here: this thread:


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: GUEST,Don Wise
Date: 19 Jul 11 - 05:34 AM

Jock o'Hazeldean
Boots of Spanish Leather (Bob Dylan)
Eternal Circle (Bob Dylan)
The whole "Beggarwench of Hull/ Patrick Street" series

I could list a couple of my own songs here, but,since they're unknown to anyone else or the world at large, I'll spare you all! Perhaps late, when I'm rich and famous!!


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: GUEST,Stringsinger
Date: 19 Jul 11 - 09:48 AM

From Haiti, the haunting "Choucounne", the beautiful
Maribu who can never be true.


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: Megan L
Date: 19 Jul 11 - 09:56 AM

Jock o Hazeldeen is not about a faithless woman she remained faitful to him even when the lord was trying to force her into marriage with his son, till at last he Jock appeared and she went away with him


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: GUEST,Don Wise
Date: 20 Jul 11 - 05:54 AM

@ Megan L:- Whoops! You're right of course. It's just that, for some reason, I had the last two lines of the song spinning around in my head as I posted.

Try this one: Queen Eleanor


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Subject: RE: Songs of Faithless Women
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 20 Jul 11 - 06:31 AM

99% of F J Childs ' The English and Scottish Popular Ballads, '

a catalogue of womens treachery to men.

Dave H


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