clancy family childrens songs

Subject: clancy family childrens songs
From: GUEST,sharon pyne
Date: 17 Nov 02 - 06:34 PM

I have an old tape of clancy family music for children. It's called "so early in the morning". I would like to get these songs on CD. I'm also wondering if all their lyrics are traditionl or did they write soome of these songs such as Madrine Rua and Bounce Her Up etc. Anyone have any info. Thanks Sharon Pyne

Subject: RE: clancy family childrens songs
From: pattyClink
Date: 17 Nov 02 - 09:54 PM

Hi Sharon, looks like it's available via Amazon from Tradition Records, according to Liam's site. Hope you can get what you need following this link.

http://www.liamclancy.com/recs/early.htm


The site showed the playlist is 46(!) songs, so there's no easy answer to your source question. Lots of their material is traditional, some is modified traditional, some composed.

You can get a lot of info on any particular song if you use the Search window on the Mudcat homepage, keying in one song title at a time.

Subject: RE: clancy family childrens songs
From: katlaughing
Date: 17 Nov 02 - 11:29 PM

Good idea, patty! With a little time on my hands, I decided to look, but I couldn't find anything on either of them.

Sharon, I think you'll get a better response by starting a separate thread for each song, so...here's the one for Madrine Rua and, here is the one for Bounce Her Up. Hope this helps.

Good luck,

kat

Subject: RE: clancy family childrens songs
From: Joe Offer
Date: 14 Mar 03 - 02:37 AM

I picked this CD up a while back. It's quite a generous collection, although most of the songs are very short. I'll post the track list.

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Clancy Children / So Early In The Morning-Irish Children's Songs, Rhymes, & Games

1. Mitty Matty Had A Hen
   
2. Shelly Kee Bookey
   
3. A Big Ship Sailing
   
4. Rain Rain
   
5. When I Was Young
   
6. Three Gray Geese
   
7. Tom Tom
   
8. The Red Fox
   
9. Frosty Weather
   
10. Oliver Twist
    
11. Mammy Mammy
    
12. Seotin Neo
    
13. Frog In The Well
    
14. See Saw
    
15. She Didn'T Dance
    
16. As I Went Up An Apple Tree
    
17. Around To The Butcher'S Shop
    
18. Paddy Ont He Railway
    
19. Oh Rodger Rum
    
20. There Was An Old Man At The Fair
    
21. Goodie On A Saucer
    
22. One Two Three
    
23. Dance To Your Daddy
    
24. Old Nanny Witch
    
25. King Of Thecastle
    
26. O-Roy Shay
    
27. Jeremiah Blow The Fire
    
28. Wall Flowers
    
29. I'Ve Come All The Way From Dublin
    
30. Coming To Work Sir
    
31. Bread Rhyme
    
32. Postman Postman
    
33. A Man Of Double Deed
    
34. Are You Ready For A War
    
35. The Wren Song
    
36. Sally Go 'Round The Moon
    
37. Old Nanny Gray
    
38. Why Don'T You Get Johnny'S Supper?
    
39. Ahem Ahem
    
40. She Can Knit
    
41. Soldier Soldier
    
42. All Along
    
43. Oro My Little Boat
    
44. As I Roved Out
    
45. Paper Of Pins
    
46. The Rattlin' Bog
    

It's on the Tradition label, and it's budget-priced. Such a deal.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: clancy family childrens songs
From: GUEST,Nina
Date: 08 Jun 13 - 11:42 AM

I am looking for the companion book that was mentioned in the liner notes for this wonderful album! I am especially interested in finding the games played by the children to some of these songs.

Subject: RE: clancy family childrens songs
From: Thomas Stern
Date: 08 Jun 13 - 01:05 PM

Hi Nina,
What information do you have about the book? (title, author, isbn, date, publisher ???).
I did not see anything on the Clancy website (see above) that looked
like children's songs & game, though the website lists many books.
Thanks!
Thomas.

Subject: RE: clancy family childrens songs
From: GUEST,Nina
Date: 12 Jun 13 - 02:25 PM

Thomas,

I'm coming up empty in a search (on the Clancy website as well) as I only have a reference to it in the original 1962 release liner notes towards the end: "Ways for teachers and parents to use this material will be found in a companion book, "So Early in the Morning", which is now being prepared. The book also contains the music to all the songs, with guitar chords, acknowledgments and historical graphical information on the Clancy family."

These songs were collected by Diane Hamilton, but I can find little else she has done, though the liner notes refer to several different collections she made. My fear is that the companion book never was completed/published, but I am trying to be hopeful as I really want to use these collected songs/games in my classroom!

I've put the question out to the Kodaly Society of Ireland (Kodaly Music Educators are great for collecting folksongs and their games) to no avail to this point. If you can think of elsewhere for me to look, please pass on the information.

Thank you.

Subject: RE: clancy family childrens songs
From: MartinRyan
Date: 12 Jun 13 - 02:37 PM

There's no sign of a book of that name in the online catalogue for the Irish Traditional Music Archive, which is now complete, as far as I know. I know they have a lot of material related to Diane Hamilton and would be very surprised if they didn't have a copy if it existed.

There are other books covering that type of material, particularly that from the Northern Ireland tradition - which Tommy Makem, in particular, would have had from his mother Sarah.

Regards

Subject: RE: clancy family childrens songs
From: MartinRyan
Date: 12 Jun 13 - 02:41 PM

For an Ulster-Scots collection:

Click here

Regards

Subject: RE: clancy family childrens songs
From: GUEST,Nina
Date: 14 Jun 13 - 10:19 AM

Martin Ryan,

Thank you for pointing me towards more resources! Do you know if there is a place I can either find recordings or musical notation for the Ulster-Scots collection? I'm a wiz at transcribing, so I'd be happy with recordings. I've already added the Bobby Shafto verses to my one-verse American variant. And, just reading the lyrics brought back the distinct Ulster dialect that took me so long to tune my ear to when I visited.

I'll do some perusing through the Irish Traditional Music Archive and see what other gems I may find.

Thanks!
~Nina

Subject: RE: clancy family childrens songs
From: MartinRyan
Date: 21 Jun 13 - 04:26 AM

GUESTNina

I´m away at the moment and will try to help on my return.

Regards