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DougR 23 Nov 02 - 06:38 PM
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Subject: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: DougR
Date: 23 Nov 02 - 06:38 PM

No, I didn't post this to bitch about the Canadian government official calling Bush a moron. I want to propose that we make Francois Ducros an honorary Mudcatter! So many catters share her opinion of Bush, it seems only the right thing to do. Also, her morale could probably use a boost about now, and that just might do the trick.

Rick, how about you or one of your fellow Canadian catters trying to find a way to present her with a Mudcat T-shirt? I'll pay for it, if you will present it. :>)

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: Bobert
Date: 23 Nov 02 - 06:44 PM

Ahhhh, yir Freudian slip is showin' there, Doug.

But gotta agree with ya' about Bush. You've finally convinced me. You win, dog gone it...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 23 Nov 02 - 07:00 PM

DOUG....YOU LEAVE ME THE FRIGGGGG OUTTA THIS!! I'm probably already on a dozen FBI lists, for even KNOWING Little Hawk, and I'm sure the RCMP, knew that I lived in a rooming house 30 years ago where there was "suspected drug activity"!

As far as I'm concerned, George Dubya Bush would give Einstein a run for his money intellectually!

(well maybe Dan Quale actually)

Just kidding

Honest

"Oh say can you.....

Rick


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: catspaw49
Date: 23 Nov 02 - 07:08 PM

Sorry Doug, but in a press release, the Moronic Officials Of Kingdom States (MOOKS), also raised an issue and lodged a formal complaint against Canada as well. They state that they are a basically harmless organization and that a Moron with an agenda compromises the generally stupid but reasonably harmless position of Mooks everywhere.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: Amergin
Date: 23 Nov 02 - 07:30 PM

yeah you should listen, him, Doug....Ole Spaw's quite an authority on such matters....BG


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: DougR
Date: 23 Nov 02 - 07:54 PM

Shucks shoot, Rick, you're no fun. I've already warned the Mounties to keep an eye on all you left-wing Canadians already. You really have LITTLE to risk! :>)

L.H., how about you? You seem the adventurous type.

Mooks huh? Maybe I better get the FBI to look into them too. *G*

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: kendall
Date: 23 Nov 02 - 10:44 PM

Just remember Doug, Time wounds all heels.
Actually, I can't say he is a moron. What he is is a guy who desperatly needs to succeed at something. He has failed at everything he has put his hand to.His latest failure, the war on terrorism.


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: DonMeixner
Date: 23 Nov 02 - 11:08 PM

Bush may be a Moron but Ashcroft is the Anti-Christ and will lead us all to literal and spiritual ruin.

Don


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: Joe Offer
Date: 23 Nov 02 - 11:39 PM

Doug, I'm really proud that you've come to see the light, and that you'd start a thread like this...
Yes, he IS a moron. Makes Dan Quayle look like a Mensa candidate.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: Bobert
Date: 23 Nov 02 - 11:45 PM

Ya' know Joe, that ain't Menza but Mensa!

Jus' funnin' with ya.

Heck, I don't have a clue hoe that stuff is spelled. All I know is that I'm a onth late in paying my dues. See, they'll take anyone these days who has a pulse...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: DougR
Date: 24 Nov 02 - 12:10 AM

Uh, Joe. I'm only acting as reporter here. I didn't say I agreed with her. Personally I think Bush is a moron like a fox.

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: Amos
Date: 24 Nov 02 - 12:15 AM

Doug --

Explain the fox part, wouldja?

I am really curious to know what it is you see that looks like applied intelligence on his part.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: Little Hawk
Date: 24 Nov 02 - 12:22 AM

(Chuckle!...snort!) Doug, you are my favorite conservative, cos you have a good sense of humor....

I think this little brouhaha is damned funny. Chretien, of course, is falling all over himself trying to repair the "damage", and making a big deal out of what is actually the sort of thing that happens all the time off camera. He doesn't want to sack a possibly useful employee, but he doesn't want to look anti-Bush either. Ah, the glorious hypocrisies and shameless ass-covering we find in politics!

You should hear what they say when the microphones are turned off! Rick could tell a few tales about that...but he is far too judicious to do so...

Still lookin' for gigs south of the border, eh, Rick? :-)

I jest. Hey, man, there was "suspected drug activity" just about EVERYWHERE 30 years ago. Illegal drugs, I mean. As for legal ones, well, they are a complete epidemic at this point. The War on Drugs is probably the most unsuccessful war of all time, except maybe for Saddam's attempt to take Kuwait and hold it.

So, Doug, you want me to present Francois Ducros with a Mudcat T-shirt? Well...I would...but I'm busy right now trying to set up a discreet weekend with Diana Rigg. Oops! Wasn't sposed to talk about that... Okay, I didn't say that...I meant...um...I have to "feed the pigs" is what I meant to say. Yeah, that's it.

But I think you're right. She does deserve at least a T-shirt (Ducros, I mean. Diana Rigg deserves anything she bloody well wants!). I'll think about how I can fit it into my schedule.

I'm going on a trip to Trinidad shortly, for 3 weeks, so you won't have me to kick the political Right around any more for awhile...

But I should be back by mid-December if all goes as expected, so hang in there... :-)

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: Little Hawk
Date: 24 Nov 02 - 12:32 AM

Amos - Well, I know it's debatable, but Bush has proven rather foxy in winning a very disputed election (as we all know) in 2000, and in gaining control of Congress in 2002.

This may, of course, prove less about Bush than it does about how disorganized and rudderless the Democrats are. Like I said, it's debatable.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: Boab
Date: 24 Nov 02 - 03:43 AM

I think if the Lady had chosen to pinpoint the moronic content of the Bush mob, a good wide spread of paint spray would have resulted in a whole platoon of brightly coloured morons.


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: Metchosin
Date: 24 Nov 02 - 04:33 AM

speaking of slips, when I first looked at this thread I thought it read "Bush is a mormon".


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: Genie
Date: 24 Nov 02 - 04:39 AM

DonMeixner ("Bush may be a Moron but Ashcroft is the Anti-Christ..."  Nah.  It's Jerry Falwell.  I'm convinced.

LH, off to Trinidad shortly, for 3 weeks, eh?  Awww!  POOR BABY!!!
But you're right about that off-camera stuff.  Why is the public so "Shocked!  Just shocked!" when a microphone happens to catch a glimpse of the reality of politics?

 But I should be back by mid-December if all goes as expected, so hang in there... :-)

Yeah, Amos, I think Dubya, despite being intellectually challenged in some areas, is a lot smarter as a politician than lots of folks thought, and a lot smarter than some Dems I know.

Genie


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: Metchosin
Date: 24 Nov 02 - 05:18 AM

Sort of like the pot calling the kettle black, I think Ms. Ducros should loose her job for her inappropriate remark. What a stupid thing to say during that conference to a reporter. Her private opinions should be just that. Now I wonder if Chrétien will do the appropriate thing.


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: DougR
Date: 24 Nov 02 - 07:45 AM

Metchosin: glasses. You need glasses! :>)

Amos: well, I think Bush has turned out to be a pretty effective persuader with our allies. I don't think a moron would be quite as effective.

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: Willie-O
Date: 24 Nov 02 - 07:56 AM

Hey, a moron can be just a few points below "dull normal". It's not like she called him an imbecile or an idiot.

But I agree it was an inappropriate remark for a chief of communications; in that job, you're not supposed to become the story. You're supposed to get the right spin out.

Since Chretien doesn't seem in any hurry to cosy up to Dubya personally, I wonder why he keeps indicating we're going to help invade Iraq. Fat lot of good it did us last time we joined one of those little parties. Got four of our own guys blown up by some cowboy sposed to be on our side.

Willie-O


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: kendall
Date: 24 Nov 02 - 09:44 AM

Bush finally apologized, under duress, for our "friendly fire" which killed a group of Canadian slodiers; But, did he ever even mention the Aussies killed in Bali by that bomb?


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: Amos
Date: 24 Nov 02 - 09:47 AM

Well I find him stupid in the extreme, and Ibelieve his elicitation of response has been through bully-boy tactics. I also think he is the most unpatriotic president we have ever had.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: mmb
Date: 24 Nov 02 - 10:08 AM

This is sort-of cross-posted, but is even more relevant here than on the thread where I posted it last night when I got in from John McCutcheon's Clearwater (FL) concert. His most recent topical material is posted to his website (www.folkmusic.com , with an mp3 icon in the left frame of the link to The Music) - and contains some of the abso-dam-lutely hysterical political stuff that had a packed house of 500 laughing, cheering, singing (nay, bellowing!) along and on their feet more than once.
    Most relevant to this thread is the song described as a "Collaboration," of which his co-collaborator-in-chief is totally unaware. The lyrics are nothing but excerpts from Bush speeches.    John says there is no way he could make them all up; "Can you imagine how hard (all this) was to memorize?"
    "Ashcroft's Army" appealed to our sense of patriotism, since its stated purpose is to help recruit us all as Domestic Spies.
    And speaking of Patriotism, in addition to reminding us all of the true genesis of "This Land is Your Land" by throwing in some of the verses that have been expurgated from elementary school music texts and current popular consciousness, he performed a new song recalling what it "used to" feel like to remove his cap, place hand over heart, look up at the flag, and join in with the National Anthem. Oh, for the Age of Innocence!
    Enjoy!   M.


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: Thomas the Rhymer
Date: 24 Nov 02 - 11:27 AM

moron (i)n.(i) 1.) A mentally retarted person, specifically one having a mental age between 7 and 12 years, or an intelligence quotient between 50 and 75. 2.) A remarkably stupid or oafish person. (American Heritage)

Seems to me that this definition applies more to the individualls that would choose to vote for Bush. I'm supprised and amazed that the people who would wish such a disaster upon our country and the world can even read...


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: Little Hawk
Date: 24 Nov 02 - 12:01 PM

My friend BDiBR (Blind Drunk in Blind River) thinks that "moron" is a word of praise. He calls stupid people (like his brother Don) "less-ons", meaning that they are less "on" the mark than he is.

Don: "Hey, you flippin' MORON! Did you drink the last beer?"

Shane: "Got that right, you flippin' LESS-on! Whyncha go ta th' Beer Store and buy some more, ya loser?!!

Don: "What did you call me?"

Shane: "I called you a LESS-on, flipface!"

Don: "What the flip is that sposed ta mean, y' flippin' retread??"

Shane: "I mean...you are LESS on than me, BOLTHOLE!!! Whaddya think I mean, eh?"

And so on.....isn't life great in the small towns and suburbs of Canada?

Maybe Ducros was actually complimenting Bush. I am surprised that this would not have occurred to Jean Chretien...

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: Charley Noble
Date: 24 Nov 02 - 12:39 PM

Actually Ducros was probably comparing Bush to a prominent glacial geomorphological feature, the moraine, or maybe something to do with yachting, the mooring. This is all too deep for me.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble, in Moronland


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: DougR
Date: 24 Nov 02 - 05:31 PM

I just knew you all would have fun with this thread. Call it my Thanksgiving gift to liberal Mudcatters. :>)

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 24 Nov 02 - 07:03 PM

http://www.zeeprime.com/bush.jpg


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: Ebbie
Date: 24 Nov 02 - 07:58 PM

What do you want to bet that the shrub won't insist he saw something?


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: Bobert
Date: 24 Nov 02 - 09:16 PM

Well, thankee, Doug fir the Thanksgiving gift to the "liberals"... Now, what did you get me? Hunnh, Doug? No Green Party teeshirts, please. I've got a drawer full of 'em, thank you. How's about making a few calls and get Junior to quit? Yeah, that would make a nice Thanksgiving gift.....

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: Mr Red
Date: 24 Nov 02 - 09:18 PM

more on the moron!


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: leprechaun
Date: 24 Nov 02 - 10:42 PM

LH - Isn't Diana Rigg just a little young for you?


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: Joe Offer
Date: 24 Nov 02 - 11:01 PM

As a service to the general public, allow me to announce that Diana Rigg was born Jul 20, 1938 - Doncaster, England. I'm guessing Little Hawk is 47 years old, so he's too young. She'll be just fine for me, though. She's ten years older than I am, but I can deal with it. People say I'm quite mature for my age.
Can't say the same for Little Hawk... [chortle]
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: GUEST,Tom Hamilton
Date: 24 Nov 02 - 11:34 PM

That's great to Know, however most politians are anyway


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: DougR
Date: 25 Nov 02 - 12:18 AM

Uh, Joe. Pardon, but Diana Rigg is much closer to MY age than either you or L.H.! I suspicion that she would put both you and L.H. into the hospital due to her experience and expertise. Now an old foggy like me, wise in the ways of satisfying beautiful ladies, that's a different story. We are blessed because WE lived through the Depression, and we learned early on what was required, and how to deliver it.

DougR *G*


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: Ebbie
Date: 25 Nov 02 - 12:27 AM

hhhahahahha


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 25 Nov 02 - 12:34 AM

Y'know, I don't think Bush is dumb. Frankly, he's of a pretty typical intelligence level. From his mispronunciations and inaccuracies, it's obvious that he doesn't do a great deal of reading. I think he lacks the basic curiosity about "what makes things work" that distinguishes the politico of higher intelligence : For Bush, things just are the way they are, the way they always have been, the way they always will be. He has a kind of easy humor and confidence that are rather endearing, the kind of middle-management guy who might have worked at Enron, popular with his underlings and competently managing his area while the whole shooting match was sliding down the tubes. I'll bet he'd be a good guy to have a beer with after work, and what he lacked in wit and perception, he would make up for in humor and camaraderie. He's just an average guy, and I think that's why he appeals to average guys. It's sort of like we were all sitting around the table at happy hour in Bennigan's, drew cocktail straws to see who would become President, and GW won.

Guys like Clinton, Gore, Ralph Nader might be sharp, but you wouldn't meet em for a beer, especially Clinton if your wife came along. Bush said about Reagan "he wasn't bogged down by a lot of complexities that just confuse people." I think this says a lot about Bush...complexities aren't layers of fact or meaning that may have a crucial bearing on a situation, they are "confusers". But he's not stupid, he's merely average. Go to work and look around. There are probably several people in your office with as much skill and competence as George has, they just lack the power and the confidence.

In a country that has been viciously attacked by a group of religious fanatics, where the economy has hit the skids, where the real world seems strange and scary, a simple guy who presents things as black-and-white issues is somehow reassuring to the average American. We aren't looking to the future or we'd want a visionary. We're looking for a competent mechanic to keep the ship of state afloat and steaming along, and maybe plug the holes as they pop up. And I think that's the way GW is seen...he's a Plugger.

Kind of sad though. When what we need is a Lincoln, what we get is the Maytag Repairman. And we're ready to settle for it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: Boab
Date: 25 Nov 02 - 12:59 AM

A well heeled bearer of "weapons of mass destruction"---moronic or not--- typically CAN move a lot of people, particularly of the creep variety.


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: Little Hawk
Date: 25 Nov 02 - 01:03 AM

LEJ - that is a sensationally good post!

Guys - No, no, Diana is not too old for me. No sireee. She is ten years older, but as far as I am concerned, that is no impediment whatsoever. STAY BACK! She's mine!!! Hah! Hah! Hah! (maniacal laughter...)

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: DougR
Date: 25 Nov 02 - 11:17 AM

Ebbie, you cut me to the quick with that ha ha ha ha post. *Sob*

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: Ebbie
Date: 25 Nov 02 - 09:12 PM

Oh, no, no, DougR. You misunderstand me. My laughter was purely admiring. :)


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: Little Hawk
Date: 25 Nov 02 - 09:20 PM

As of tonight the North American media are still obsessing over the "moron" comment. The latest problem that has arisen (in their minds, I mean) is that the Iraqui news agency has gotten hold of the "moron" story and is telling all Iraq about it! The fear now is that this may give people in Iraq and other distant countries the idea that the USA is "not liked" and that Bush is "not respected".

MY GOD!!! Think of what could happen if such ideas got around!!!!!

Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!

I can't believe these news people. Are they living in some kind of bizarre dream world? How can they take themselves seriously at all? What are they getting paid for? The "Lucy Show" made more sense.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: Ebbie
Date: 25 Nov 02 - 09:35 PM

Little Hawk, I watched part of the TV show, 'The View' this morning. They had a short discussion about it. The concensus was that we have a god-given right to call anyone a moron we want to- and worse things than that. It goes with the territory. As one of the panelists said, summing up: "And if Bush can go around calling Putin 'Pootie', what's he got to complain about? What a moron!"


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: NicoleC
Date: 25 Nov 02 - 09:57 PM

I seriously hope that Bush the Lesser is not all upset about being called a moron. It's certainly bad diplomacy on the part of Ducros, but Bush is being called MUCH worse by folks he *should* be worried about, namely registered voters.

Of course, he could be pretending to be in a snit because he wants to invade Canada! :)


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: kendall
Date: 25 Nov 02 - 10:34 PM

You are right, Doug; we learned what they want, and we know how to deliver it, but, they don't want it from US! LOL


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 25 Nov 02 - 10:54 PM

Were I the Prime Minister....and you'd better be glad I'M NOT!!

I'd instruct Madame Ducros to immediately start calling EVERY foreign leader a Moron, (with TV cameras running) hence getting us off the hook!

Ummmmmm, personally I can't remember all the names of the world leaders.....ummm who can we ask.....Oh Mr Bushhhhhh?

Seriously Doug, I'm sorry you're having to put up with all this stuff from "Soviet Canuckistan" but with any luck Kendall, Little Hawk and I will get drafted under the new *N.A.G.S.D.C.L Statute that's before Congress at the moment. If I get the chance I'll blow them both away with either my AKG 47, my little Armalight, my D-28, or my M-35.

*North American Geriatric Shit Disturbers Conscription Law.

Moronthislater


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: Jeri
Date: 25 Nov 02 - 11:34 PM

Hey - I used to drive an M-35!
(crap - I fear I'm in a rhyming mood again)

Rent Canadian Bacon.


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: GUEST,Ard Mhacha
Date: 26 Nov 02 - 06:17 AM

I find it amazing how Bush received so many votes,the magority of Mudcatters say they don`t support him.
With the gift of hindsight and realising your mistake, are you all being truthful?.
In Ireland it seems every person I speak to regards him with a loathing which was once reserved for Hitler and Stalin.
The fact that he conned his way in to the White House is one of many reasons why he is a hated figure here. Ard Mhacha.


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: Troll
Date: 26 Nov 02 - 09:57 AM

I think there must be TWO George Bushes.
One is the moron that everyone seems to think him.
The other is the evil, fiendishly clever manipulator who engineered such things as the death of Paul Wellstone.
I mean, it couldn't be the same guy, could it?

troll


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Subject: RE: BS: Its' official Bush is a moron
From: NicoleC
Date: 26 Nov 02 - 11:38 PM

Since Bush gained the White House even though he didn't win the popular vote, it's not that unlikely that someone you talk to didn't vote for him. Tweedledee and Tweedledum both got about 49%... even if Gore had won there'd still be a heck of a lot of people that didn't vote for either of 'em!

Given the generally liberal bent of musicians, I'd say the votes around MudCat went... maybe 20% to Bush?


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